Looking for mentor!

by ASG555

Posted: 14 years ago 14 replies

INTERNET MARKETING

Hello everyone,

Basically, I am looking for exactly what the title says, a mentor. I only know basics, and can't afford to keep buying different products that only offer specific information. I need someone that can help me from start to finish, basically say "This is exactly what I would do next." or "This is how I would start out, and here is how I'd go from there."

Right now I'm a college student, working about 36 hours a week, making only about $225 a week. But this is also killing me in school. My plan this summer is try and at least get something started to replicate what I make at my job so during school I can focus more and school rather than work.

So what I'm looking for is someone to mentor me to get started and hopefully replicate that $225 a week.

I don't have much to offer, but I think what sounds fair to me is if I can offer you 20% of all my earnings. This way I feel as you may have more motivation to help me get started and get things moving. Also, the better I do, the better you can do. (20% is just a number I through out there, we can definitely work on that number if you're not satisfied, I'm not sure how the whole paying a mentor usually goes).

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Also, I had a post about learning how to do local SEO for local businesses, and someone had replied this to me...

Originally Posted by CIKMarketing

Along with reading this forum. You could learn some things by visiting other social networks that focus on internet marketing (eg. sphinn.com).

If you don't understand SEO, jumping into it yourself is likely not the best idea. It's a very easy way to make a bad name for yourself if you're not confident in what you're doing.

Outsourcing your services is an option, as long as your personally trust the SEO company with your name. Remember, this is your reputation, and some SEO companies use "BlueFart" techniques that can damage business' website rankings.

Find a mentor, or work with another SEO company for a while and learn slowly. Probably the best thing you can do right now is read, read, and read some more. SEO is ever changing. Good luck!

I was especially interested in his statement, "or work with another SEO company for a while and learn slowly." I'm wondering if anyone would be able to tell me if such companies exist that would be willing to hire to do SEO. I don't feel so much that I can provide my lone service as an outsource to people, as I can't guarantee my success, there is much to learn. So if anyone knows of such "SEO companies" and can try and help point me in that direction, that would be great!

I'm more comfortable with this as I hate having my credit card, and paypal account all over the internet trying to make some money as an affiliate.

Thanks so much guys, I hope I wasn't too confusing

Also, I can't exactly speak through PM's as my post count is not over 50. So please... PLEASE contact me via e-mail at ASG82489@gmail.com

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Joe Benjamin 14 years ago

Your asking an experienced marketer to "give" some of his
valuable time...time he could use making money or doing
other things...for 20% of profits you may or may not earn?

But what if you do "nothing" with what he gives you in
terms of advice, help, time, and resources?

It's very risky for anybody worth their salt to simply give
away his time to someone he doesn't know, has never
worked with, and who is asking someone to basically hold
their hand and walk him through the motions.

It's risky for the reasons I mentioned above..."but what
IF you don't do anything with his/her mentorship? Than
that person has just wasted their time...big time.

Your not wrong for ASKING for help to go in a specific
direction, but I guarantee you...if your not putting money
upfront for the mentorship, it's not going to happen, and
if it does...it's a very strong chance something isn't right.

I know, because I was the same way...and you know what?

I get mentorship offers, on-going business, and offers to
get involved in million dollar deals BECAUSE I'm already
going in one direction.

Helping someone find their direction is a burden few people
are willing to carry, but if YOU know where you want to go
and you take steps in that direction to get there, you'll get
so many opportunities, advice, mentorship...you won't be
able to act on them all.

But it starts with YOU making a decision on where YOU want
to go in business.

I know this isn't what you want to hear, but hopefully any
one else reading this will also get something out of this
as well.
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14 years ago

Benjamin is right You need to be the captain of your ship and pick a direction and make a plan and stick to it.
Shop around on the net and you'll find lots of plans PICK ONE and follow it
That's the way to start

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ASG555

14 years ago

Well thanks very much for your advise! I really do appreciate it.

Let me tell you about my problem then. I understand what a burden it could be for someone so I'm not gonna sit here and say please. Maybe someone can come at me with some advise then.

Probably about 2 years ago, I had a website that was doing fairly well as far as traffic goes and all that. Was ranked 3 on google and I had probably 4-5 affiliate promotions on there. I did all the work myself to get the page rank and traffic there until I started seeing a good amount of people coming to the website. (I know it isn't all too much, but was a number that looked good to me for a new starting website. Was getting about 300 views per day). So then after that, I started outsourcing a lot more to get the page rank up and to keep it there. Between this and hosting, I ended up spending a decent amount of money, something I couldn't afford. I had 5 affiliate products I was promoting on the website, and between them all they were getting about 30 views a day (their salespage). I let this run on for about 4 months, and didn't make A SINGLE sale! that was 4 months of hosting, backlinging, and article writing outsourcing I was paying for, and it was all for nothing.

Anyway, I'm back now thinking about giving it a second shot, just because working and going to school is just getting exhausting. (and please don't say everyone does it because I know this. I'm simple trying to work my *** off this summer so that it isn't so exhausting these up coming semesters... rather relaxing)

Anyway, I mentioned hopefully since getting a mentor at my rates seams nearly impossible, I had said maybe I can get some advise. What this whole story was about, was basically me saying I failed miserably at affiliate marketing. Maybe someone can point me in a new direction... maybe at a new product that they have had success with. As I mentioned in the original post, I can't afford to keep buying all these products that only give half the information you need to start, and not leaving a single way of support to ask questions.

If anyone can do this, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks again

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Abdi Adan 14 years ago

Why do people waste their time on trying to find a guru that will show them everything.

The truth about making money online is that everything you need to know...you probably know it already.

If you can set up a web page with an opt in form, then you will make some money online.

And then when you make some money, invest it into your learning by finding someone who can have one on one sessions with you and explain everything you need to know.

Most importantly, TAKE ACTION.

Constistently Taking Action is really soo important and it will divide you from those that are no making money online.

Kindest
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Joe Benjamin

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ASG555

This is good. You took action. And I understand what
your going to personally. I've been there. Ain't fun.

However...the moment you give up on the process of
trial and error, the worse your problem get's and the
more time it takes to reach your goals.

Here's the thing. If your driving that kind of traffic,
the first thing you should be doing is building a list.

I suggest Aweber (what I use) as it is considered the
best. Catch being that it's $20 a month to maintain,
but it's key to building great, great long-term success.

I also understand that an extra $20 a month may be
outside your budget, so the only other way I would
personally go in your position is to change out the
affiliate links and put in a few CPA offers.

I'm not a CPA expert, so you would have to do a
search on this forum on how to do it properly. This
could be a good fit for the traffic your getting right
now. Remember that, CPA offers.

The problem you have is not that you don't know how
to generate traffic (which is rare to hear these days),
but that you don't know how to convert it.

Here's the reason why: Traffic doesn't mean in any
way it will get you sales. In fact, it's statistically
impossible to have NOT made a sale at this point if
your traffic was targeted enough.

Your not attracting the right kind of people...and the
odds are your getting alot of "lookie-loos and freebie
hunters". You need BUYERS.

Let's see...

Another suckie part which I've been through once or
twice is that with FREE traffic, you ALWAYS have to
play the waiting game if you rely on it and you never
really know if the traffic is worth your while until some
times weeks or, in your case...months down the line.

Paid traffic is always the way to go and, free traffic
I've stayed away from...the best decision I've ever
made (despite popular belief).

If you don't know how to raise the money online to
pay for traffic (solo ads, direct mail, PPC, etc)...get
a part-time job or start saving money to do so.

You get feedback infinitly times faster on if something
works or not and you can quickly scrap projects that
don't work in a matter of days or at worst...2 - 3 weeks.

Finally, I'm in direct sales and direct mail. It's a very
brilliant model and...and no one else know's that I'm
doing except you now.

Look into postcard marketing and do your own research,
you'll plenty of quality info here. Save at LEAST $500 to
do a mailing, and there's no doubt you will make well over
1000% return on your money if you do it right.

Catch is...you DO need to invest money to make it MORE
back...and QUICKLY. It's nothing like outsourcing or scaling
work that was useless to begin with. You don't need
affiliates to reach people you normally couldn't reach...
with direct mail, it's a completely different world.

But...it might not be for some people...so take the above
advice to heart and doing your own due diligence. Hope
this helps.

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Steven Wagenheim 14 years ago

Another 20% of earnings offer???

Are you related to that other guy?

Is there some ebook being sold right now that teaches people to offer
gurus 20% of their earnings? There has to be because this is the second
thread like this in two days.

Look, nobody worth their salt is going to take the time to do this because
it's just not economically feasible. They have their own business to run and
in the long run, if you make nothing, they make nothing.

My advice is to find a way to pay for coaching OR simply learn as I did, by
trial and error.

Good luck to you whatever you decide to do.
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- TonyDavis 14 years ago
  
  Is someone selling an ebook that uses the phrase: "worth their salt" ????
  You're the second person in this thread to use it...
  
  Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim
  
  Look, nobody worth their salt.......... omitted
  
  Originally Posted by WhoIsBenjamin
  
  It's very risky for anybody worth their salt.... omitted
  
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  Michael Oksa 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by TonyDavis
  
  Is someone selling an ebook that uses the phrase: "worth their salt" ????
  You're the second person in this thread to use it...
  
  Dang it!
  
  Looks like the secret is out on my marketing guide called "Worth Their Salt". I just coined that phrase 3 weeks ago, and it looks like it's stsrting to take off.
  
  Right.
  
  The phrase "worth their salt" goes back for ages, it's a common phrase. Hence, the potential for more than one person to use it in such a small span.
  
  The idea of "offering to pay a coach 20% of future earnings and posting the offer on the Warrior Forum" is a bit newer, and WOULD be the EXACT type of thing somebody may suggest their customers do.
  
  However, if you would like a copy of my book, just let me know. It's definitely worth it's weight in gold.
  
  HEY!!!
  
  "Worth it's weight in gold", that has a ring to it. Looks like I just coined another new phrase.
  
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  TonyDavis 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Michael Oksa
  
  The phrase "worth their salt" goes back for ages, it's a common phrase. Hence, the potential for more than one person to use it in such a small span.
  
  Never heard it before yesterday.....
  
  Originally Posted by Michael Oksa
  
  "Worth it's weight in gold", that has a ring to it. Looks like I just coined another new phrase.
  
  Now that one, I've heard of.
  
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OLOORE 14 years ago

ASG555 I greet you.
Just wanted to fix a few nuts.
Could you say exactly what went wrong?
You mentioned you were making some regulars, until you
began to outsource. One would have expected a rise in revenue.
Whose advice was it to outsource to the specific institutional set ups?
What information did you possess about the organisation before outsourcing and parting with your hard earned resources?
Are you getting the direction I am moving?
It's like you moved from the Frying pan right into the naked fire.
If you will learn from the mistakes of the past, then, I believe the future will
be bright. But if you can't answer these questions and very many others in line
with the mistakes of the past, you just might be so afraid to outsource another day.
And I bet you, without outsourcing, I doubt if you'll ever be able to manifest your full
potentials in the online biz.
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- ASG555 14 years ago
  
  Sorry, you must have misunderstood . I wasn't making anything either before I started outsourcing. I see how what I said can be confusing, so I'm going to fix that statement. I started outsourcing when I saw the POTENTIAL to make a couple sales. This potential being when I saw page views, and affiliate sales page views. And I brought that up mainly just to express that I couldn't keep outsourcing in order to keep my page rank, was just spending more money than I can afford. That is basically why I gave up on what I was working on those couple years ago.
  
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marica theuma 14 years ago

Hi
Just one simple comment here. Some people may manage without a mentor and finally reach their goals, but at different intervals. However some might require a genuine person who has been there and is offering to help them arrive too. We are
not all born to be leaders at least not in everything. But once you have mastered what your master has shown you, you can start to be the leader yourself!
Wishing you luck! You'll find substantial help here, keep coming back.

marica theuma
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warrioruser 14 years ago

You got your coaching thread to be live on this section. I just started the thread looking for coach and that thread got deleted, I think this forum have strict rules. I don't know why my thread got deleted.I just requested " to coach me on how to make atleast 500$ a month". This forum is so strict about language or something.. But anyways good luck to you..
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- WebMarketeer 14 years ago
  
  If you need a mentor, then keep looking and you will find the right person at the right price to coach you.. Just because something didn't work for others doesnt mean it wouldn't work for you, that is what makes us individuals.
  So please sift through the advice given with a fine tooth comb, because there are a lot of helpful tips here, along with the babble.
  I believe to many people just move on to the next project once they have failed without taking the time and finding out how they actually failed in the first place, which in turn is my individual opinion, my little sprinkle of salt if you will.
  You know what works for you so keep pressing on your goal and watch out for for the ones that "think" they are "worth a salt" in the process. Because many posts along with this one really dont answer the initial post, which is why you hear almost anyone who has made money online say to keep your forum surfing to a minimum. I am not going to name any names but everyone should take a look at all of their posts on wf and see if they were really helpful or just opinion. Sorry I couldnt help.
  
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