Buying Through Your Own Affiliate Link

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As you might be able to tell, I am quite new at this game. I am wondering if it is frowned upon, or down right against the rules, to buy clickbank products through your own link in order to preview them and try it out.
#affiliate #buying #link
  • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
    Some merchants on ClickBank do spell-it out that you can't do that but it can't really be prevented on ClickBank but you should honor it so check out their affiliate page for their terms.

    I have a few products on ClickBank and here is my take. If you want to promote one of my products as an affiliate then yea go for it. If you have no plans on promoting it and you're just buying it through your affiliate link for a discount then I "frown down" on it since it's supposed to be an affiliate program not a rebate program.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      • Profile picture of the author Toby.T
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Clickbank actually specify in their information pages that it is permitted to buy through your own affiliate-link.
        If it is permitted, then I assume it's a common practice. I would do it if there was anything worth the effort on Clickbank.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bongoshaq1
        I have never seen Click bank telling to purchase through your own link. Actually is against the TOS of Clickbank. Please provide a link so I can read that.

        Clickbank actually specify in their information pages that it is permitted to buy through your own affiliate-link.[/QUOTE]
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        • Profile picture of the author todd11
          I was under the impression that one of the reasons CB doesn't pay out right away, but requires all kinds of credit cards, paypal, and other payments from various sources was to verify that you weren't buying from your own link, am i wrong?

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  • Profile picture of the author revenue27
    It's not ethical to do that, if you are an honest business person don't ever do that, and I believe in karma, although you can order from your own affiliate is not the right thing, don't clickbank realize this, why they don't do something about this bug?
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  • Profile picture of the author rysportguy
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    if it is for the purpose of promoting the product i would go for it and use your own affiliate link because you are doing it to benifit them but just incase it is best to make sure the seller does not have any rules against it but im sure most wont
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    • Profile picture of the author Rockmanfl
      I can see both sides of this argument, I think it's ok if you want to try out the product that you will be selling, however at the same time I probablly wouldn't make a habit out of it, cause you're suppose to be trying to get others to buy the product, not just yourself
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  • Profile picture of the author smplylvn
    I see both sides of this issue as well. I will admit I have purchased a couple products through my link, and it was so that I could review the product prior to promoting it. I wanted to know the ins and outs so that I could write good content on my promotional page. I guess I kind of think of it along the same lines as getting a review copy from the creator. But I do agree also, that you should be promoting the product for other people to buy. Not just looking for a way to get a discount.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
    Why don't you get in contact with the vendor and tell him you are planning on selling his product and ask him / her if it is ok with them to buy through your own affiliate link.

    Another good reason to be in touch with the vendor is that some of them have special bonuses and companion reports to help with your efforts that are not mentioned in the generic "affiliate tools" page.

    If you demonstrate that you are going to give a serious effort at selling their product, many vendors will work to help you sell for them.

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  • Profile picture of the author Toby Lewis
    That's one of the reasons why new clickbank products have such massive gravity, because people buy through their own link.

    If the vendor is running a high ticket launch through their own merchant then they have complete control and often don't pay out when you do it, so don't get upset when you're denied.
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  • Profile picture of the author Glyn
    Personally, I always buy a product before I promote it. Unless of cores its one of those big launches products that don’t really provide that option.

    I find that I'm more critical in my product reviews if I pay just as much as my referral would pay and I think that helps build trust.

    In the past I have asked for a peek at the actual product and found that a lot of venders would just give me the product… and it’s easy to say something good if you didn’t have to pay of it.

    I’ve found that I sold less… even of the best of products that I got way. I guess something just communicates. But, I don’t sell anything I wouldn’t buy myself.
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  • Profile picture of the author brieat
    It's frown upon and some people do it, personally I don't because I don't really care for saving a couple dollars. But if you're a newbie and need to save a bit of money then buy through your affiliate link, just don't brag about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dietriffic
    Whether it's 'right' or 'wrong' I'm not sure...

    Personally, I think it's worse to promote a product you've never even looked at (never mind used), than to grab a copy at a reduced price to review for promotion.

    Think about it, if you work at a clothing store, you'll get staff discount and sometimes will be encouraged to wear at work what is on the shelves to show that you approve of the products you're selling.

    Car sales people are often given the opportunity to have company cars (usually costs them a cut in their salary), so they drive and use the product they are trying to sell every day.

    To me, it makes sense to use a product first. In the 'real' world, often there's a discount for buying the product you're selling. Why should it be different online?
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Brigante
    I agree with Dietriffic. It makes sense to use a product first.

    Besides, it's not only business, it's reasonable. Any savvy consumer and businessman will prefer to buy a discount product than the same product but for higher price. For example, I like xSitePro affiliate program policy:

    "Do I earn commissions on my own purchases?

    Yes. All purchases, even those you make yourself, will earn a commission as long as the links on your web site are used to come to our storefront."


    It's very savvy, I think.
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  • Profile picture of the author Samuel Baker
    For product affiliate marketers whom say use their own affiliate link to make a purchase for the purposes of testing / reviewing I have little to no problem with this. Many people above have said that they use this method so they can test the product before they begin any type of promotional activities; this is very fair. Why begin wasting your own money on advertising PPC and the likes to eventually finding out that the product is actually not worth MUCH at all?

    It makes perfect sense; both sides of the fence; I would say its just about each individuals ethics/morals ultimately.

    Some will take advantage of the system as with anything in this world its natural?
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Brigante
    If some people think that it's not ethical to buy products through their own link, they can ask their spouse or friend to do that.
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    • Profile picture of the author Blase
      It's interesting to see how our minds work.

      Here's how mine works.

      Let's say I am selling a product for $49.95,
      50% commission.

      I'll take $24.00 all day instead of ZERO
      because people that buy through their own links
      probably won't but any other way.

      Also if you are willing to give up 50% to an affiliate
      why aren't you willing to give it to someone
      that gets the system?

      Plus it might lead to other things if your product
      is GREAT.

      More sales, JV deals, partnerships, word of mouth
      and so on.

      You are still getting your stuff out and you are still getting paid.

      Be smart enough to not be so short sighted, have
      a continuing backend, build a relationship, get people
      into your funnel anyway you can and sell more!

      Just a thought
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      • Profile picture of the author silverwaterfall
        I've been wondering about this as well. We definitely should be able to review/use a product if we're going to promote it, I think. Thanks for all the great points of view.
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      • Profile picture of the author jdenc
        Originally Posted by Blase View Post

        It's interesting to see how our minds work.

        Here's how mine works.

        Let's say I am selling a product for $49.95,
        50% commission.

        I'll take $24.00 all day instead of ZERO
        because people that buy through their own links
        probably won't but any other way.

        Also if you are willing to give up 50% to an affiliate
        why aren't you willing to give it to someone
        that gets the system?

        Plus it might lead to other things if your product
        is GREAT.

        More sales, JV deals, partnerships, word of mouth
        and so on.

        You are still getting your stuff out and you are still getting paid.

        Be smart enough to not be so short sighted, have
        a continuing backend, build a relationship, get people
        into your funnel anyway you can and sell more!

        Just a thought
        I agree with this.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Louis Monk
    This has raised a point I have never thought to use, I have bought a lot of products through Clickbank but have never bought through my affiliate link.

    I am often persuaded to buy through another IM link to get the massive bonus they throw in as the incentive.

    On the other hand, I have yet to promote products I have bought. If purchasing through one's own link with the view to reviewing it before promoting it, as a Clickbank member seems reasonable if Clickbank do not disprove of it.

    I have bought products for full price and returned them after being disappointed but I would not do this if I bought the product through my own link in which case the seller and Clickbank would both benefit at my loss if I did not go on to promote it. I think it would complicate more and show up in your figures if you bought through your own link and then decided to return the product.

    If an affiliate who goes on to say sell 100 units after buying the product through his own link for the purposes of reviewing the product, then the seller and Clickbank would be gain enourmously and for for allowing that affiliate to get the product at the full price less his commission would be win-win all round.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ryan D
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    I don't think it's a big deal at all and yes, it is common practice.
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  • Profile picture of the author Amy Carczak
    This is one of the hidden costs of ClickBank.

    A person that would normally buy at full price
    can easily recognize the CB check out and
    head over to CB, paste in their affiliate code,
    promote to themselves and then the product
    owner loses 50% - 60% of the sale plus they
    get to pay CB 11% for the priviledge.

    Great deal.
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  • Profile picture of the author BCJason
    Clickbank allows this. I have bought through my link to see if the product was as described and guess what? It wasn't. If I'm going to promote a product I need to know that it is what it says it is. Now if your just buying through your link to get the discount...thats your choice but maybe you'll have a product for sale there one day. Would you want someone doing that?
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    • Profile picture of the author 4eternity
      this is a very common practice among affiliates, I'm not quite sure if it is against the rules, but some people say it is not ethical, I don't know why, since you're paying the vendor what he's asking, just with a small commission (discount) LOL
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      • Profile picture of the author petec
        Hi,
        Must admit i have bought a couple of products from clickbank through my aff link. But only for products i have promoted.
        Now my question is why the vendors/product creators can't give affiliates a sample or shortened version of their product. At the end of the day people use Clickbank to get affiliates to work for them, so why not help your staff, give them something to help them promote.

        Pete
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        • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
          Originally Posted by petec View Post

          Hi,
          ...Now my question is why the vendors/product creators can't give affiliates a sample or shortened version of their product. At the end of the day people use Clickbank to get affiliates to work for them, so why not help your staff, give them something to help them promote.

          Pete
          If you can deliver sales and back up the talk most vendors will give you a review copy of the whole enchilada. You just need to ask.
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  • Profile picture of the author -Jericho-
    I actually buy all my amazon stuff with my affiliate ID using money I've made from selling affiliate stuff. I make Amazon money just to turn around and spend it right back with them. I just bank all my earnings with them and spend it there when I want something.

    I don't know if they disapprove of it but hey it's never leaving their company so I can't imagine they can complain.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    I thought this was against Clickbank's TOS, and maybe it was at one time, but I just spend about 30-40 minutes trying to find their policy on it and I can't find a word about it either way. It's possible it's there and I couldn't find it, Clickbank has never been known for their ease of use in finding what you want if it's not one of the main pages.

    So IF it's not against the TOS, I think it's reasonable to buy through your own link if you're considering promoting the product. If you're buying it for personal use, and another affiliate introduced you to the product, perhaps even convincing you to buy, then I think that affiliate deserves the commission.

    I know not everyone will agree, but that's just me. You get to decide what is right for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Blase
    Originally Posted by HypeFree View Post

    If someone did that on my program I would kick them out. Same is when 2 strager cheat and say they are "spouses" to get in free to my bootcamp. I cant discover all of them but when I do i kick them out.

    I asked one when if you where in my place would you do it, they said now. So why did you do it?

    HypeFree
    I am just curious...

    How much does your product sell for?
    What % do you pay affiliates on clickbank?
    How much does it cost you to get a customer?
    What is the lifetime value of your customer?
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  • Profile picture of the author jdenc
    Originally Posted by HypeFree View Post

    If someone did that on my program I would kick them out. Same is when 2 strager cheat and say they are "spouses" to get in free to my bootcamp. I cant discover all of them but when I do i kick them out.

    I asked one when if you where in my place would you do it, they said now. So why did you do it?

    HypeFree
    Not that we haven't already had a lot of fun but I have to ask in what way does this hurt you or your sales? Do you not make the same amount regardless?
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    • Profile picture of the author jdenc
      Originally Posted by HypeFree View Post

      Who cares about the sales. I don't do this for sales or money I do it to change people.

      I CAN'T CHANGE OR HELP THOSE WHO CHEAT OR ARE IN-CONSIDERATE

      Sincerely,

      HypeFree
      You didn't really answer my question. In what way is this cheating or inconsiderate? I mean if an affiliate buys something they are selling for you before they sell it sight unseen in what way are you being cheated? I'm new at this and I will probably pursue some affiliate sales so I am trying to understand where you are coming from.
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    • Profile picture of the author Blase
      Originally Posted by HypeFree View Post

      Who cares about the sales. I don't do this for sales or money I do it to change people.

      I CAN'T CHANGE OR HELP THOSE WHO CHEAT OR ARE IN-CONSIDERATE

      Sincerely,

      HypeFree

      I am not trying to start an argument here.

      We are just two adults talking.

      But that statement makes no sense. :confused:

      If it where true you wouldn't care if they used an
      affiliate link because you want to help them
      regardless of the money.

      People that "CHEAT OR ARE IN-CONSIDERATE"
      need our help the most, wouldn't you agree?
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  • Profile picture of the author koncorps
    Survival of the fittest.

    Save your money get your rebate, if you can save money why not?
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  • Profile picture of the author BobJutsu
    Originally Posted by Matt M View Post

    Why don't you get in contact with the vendor and tell him you are planning on selling his product and ask him / her if it is ok with them to buy through your own affiliate link.
    Matt
    Or, assuming you do in fact have the intent of selling whatever product it is you are requesting, contact the vendor and ask them to give you a copy. Seriously, if you want me bring you sales and new customers, the least a vendor can do is pony up a a review download. It's not actually costing them anything, because I can guarantee I wasn't going to buy it...I can also guarantee that if I can't get a review copy fairly painlessly, I'm not going to promote it...I have better things to do then deal with that.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Lenaghan
      Originally Posted by BobJutsu View Post

      It's not actually costing them anything, because I can guarantee I wasn't going to buy it.
      This is my litmus test for buying through my own link. If it's a product that I'm reviewing in a market that I have zero personal interest in, I'll use my own affiliate link. I prefer to buy a copy than ask for a review copy, because I like to see how the sales funnel works and how easy the delivery is going to be for someone who may not have the same familiarity with the process as me.

      If it's something that I would be interested in myself, whether an IM product or just another topic I like, I'll either buy it direct from the vendor's link or through someone else's affiliate link, if that's how I found it in the first place.

      John
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