Over 10K Twitter followers And Still No Clickbank Sales

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Hi

I do well in Google Adsense but no sales in my first 2 months of clickbank i have over 10k of followers using twitter, i would of thought at least i would have had 1 sale lol.

But winners never quit and quiters never win...

Im a winner but i need a bit of help please.
#10k #clickbank #followers #sales #twitter
  • Profile picture of the author Brad Gosse
    Maybe your twitter followers are also simply trying to sell clickbank products...


    I just looked at your twitter account, every single tweet you send out is an advertisement. My guess would be that you used some type of software to increase your followers. Those followers are probably very similar to you.

    In your entire page I don't see a single reply to any user. You may have 10,000 followers but you still don't get twitter.
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    • Profile picture of the author Aussie_Al
      Originally Posted by Brad Gosse View Post

      Maybe your twitter followers are also simply trying to sell clickbank products...


      I just looked at your twitter account, every single tweet you send out is an advertisement. My guess would be that you used some type of software to increase your followers. Those followers are probably very similar to you.

      In your entire page I don't see a single reply to any user. You may have 10,000 followers but you still don't get twitter.
      My main rule with Twitter is to NEVER direct sell - I would rather have a limited number of "quality" followers then 10,000 people trying to sell me things
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    • Profile picture of the author MrMoneyGuy
      Originally Posted by Brad Gosse View Post

      Maybe your twitter followers are also simply trying to sell clickbank products...


      I just looked at your twitter account, every single tweet you send out is an advertisement. My guess would be that you used some type of software to increase your followers. Those followers are probably very similar to you.

      In your entire page I don't see a single reply to any user. You may have 10,000 followers but you still don't get twitter.

      Advertisment???? No its posts going back to my blog (Which is advertising my blog but not selling anything) its information there is only a few posts on there advertising products etc etc.

      Personally i think twitter is over rated lol
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      • Profile picture of the author Brad Gosse
        Originally Posted by MrMoneyGuy View Post

        Advertisment???? No its posts going back to my blog (Which is advertising my blog but not selling anything) its information there is only a few posts on there advertising products etc etc.

        Personally i think twitter is over rated lol
        Either way if EVERY tweet contains a link people learn to ignore you. Link = ad to most people.

        Twitter IS over rated for people who think it's a dump for links and RSS feeds.

        ENGAGE! Reply, interact and make connections. Then when you drop links it will be from someone they trust not just some link dump account.

        I would at least try to keep your links to a ratio of 1 link for every 5 tweets. Reply, retweet, ask questions, reply. That's how it's done
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        • Profile picture of the author MrMoneyGuy
          Originally Posted by Brad Gosse View Post


          I would at least try to keep your links to a ratio of 1 link for every 5 tweets. Reply, retweet, ask questions, reply. That's how it's done
          Thanks i agree with this i need to slow down blog posts to around 2 every day they will contain links then just interact with my followers etc etc
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        • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
          Let me add some emphasis...

          Originally Posted by Brad Gosse View Post

          Either way if EVERY tweet contains a link people learn to ignore you. Link = ad to most people.

          Twitter IS over rated for people who think it's a dump for links and RSS feeds.

          ENGAGE! Reply, interact and make connections. Then when you drop links it will be from someone they trust not just some link dump account.

          I would at least try to keep your links to a ratio of 1 link for every 5 tweets. Reply, retweet, ask questions, reply. That's how it's done
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  • Profile picture of the author JonMills
    Originally Posted by MrMoneyGuy View Post

    Hi

    I do well in Google Adsense but no sales in my first 2 months of clickbank i have over 10k of followers using twitter, i would of thought at least i would have had 1 sale lol.

    But winners never quit and quiters never win...

    Im a winner but i need a bit of help please.
    Most people avoid marketing twitter accounts LOL, lets face it who wants to be bombarded by clickbank products on twitter, People want to find interesting people on twitter
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  • Profile picture of the author PCRoger
    People don't really buy off Twitter, do they?

    They want to know if their favorite movie star or band member just sneezed or if their dog pooped.

    I'm sure Twitter is fantastic; just not for me.

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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Originally Posted by PCRoger View Post

      People don't really buy off Twitter, do they?
      Yes. And, yes. And still yes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas W
    It's probably because twitter is always "Over capacity"
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  • Profile picture of the author Nigel Greaves
    The post title told me everything. Have you ever come across someone who isn't in the public eye who has 10,000 followers?

    The chances are, virtually all those followers are trying to market to anyone dumb enough to agree to follow them and it goes on ad infinitum. Vincent in post #4 gives the way to success with Twitter.

    Nigel
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  • Profile picture of the author DogScout
    How Many Twitter and/or facebook page/account 'Followers' do You Have?
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    If you have around 20,000 followers, Over half probably have not
    ‘tweeted’ in over 6 months. I assume the real world called and they
    went. over ½ of blogs (and web sites over all) appear to last less than 6
    ...months to a year before they are abandoned. Same appears to be true
    with twitter accounts. It is said there are over 200,000 blogs on the
    net, yet 3/4ths of them have not had a post on them in 3-6 months. So do
    they count? If 3/4ths of my followers have not logged in for 30 days,
    do I really have 20,000 followers? (Or just empty accounts 'following
    me?) So even if you get a million followers in a month, within 6 months
    most have stopped logging in so don’t read your messages anyway.
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    So while Twitter says they have over 6 million users, what they mean is
    they have over 6 million accounts. Between inactive accounts and
    multiple accounts for one user, I doubt there is much more than a
    million ‘users’. Paying to get users or joining programs to get them
    seems like a temporary way to get a message out at best. In a short
    time, it is only mostly accounts that are ‘following’ you, not people.
    When I check the stats of my followers on an account a little over a
    year old, 3/4ths of them have not even logged into their accounts in
    over 30 days and ½ over 3 months ago (A lot haven't 'tweeted' for 6-12
    months!). It is mostly smoke and mirrors, it would appear.
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    Better to have a small number of followers and if what you say is
    interesting enough, they may bother to log in to read it and/or buy from you. If not, then
    it is just empty accounts following you as Twitter apparently never
    deletes abandoned accounts, (although they claim they do after 6 months
    of inactivity). Just ones that someone takes the time to delete
    themselves. Even then the count shows up under your ‘followers’ for 30
    more days.
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    Of course, just like web sites and blogs, some will probably be around a
    while, but as with web sites and blogs, those appear to be the
    minority. (Except where you have a small intimate and like minded
    following and you create a value that is enough for followers to log in
    to read.)
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    Of course, each of my 3 dogs has there own account! They just tweet
    inspirational or funny sayings. (You know how dogs can be. ) When
    Dempsey passed I 'told' his followers through tweets. I got over 100
    pleas to not delete his account as they liked his dog wisdom and humor.
    (As well as even more sympathy messages). So I guess there is no
    telling. Dempsey still has his account as a result. Sometimes other dogs
    come by and 'sniff his butt' as well. So now you know I am nuts, (as if you didn't).
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    Facebook faces much the same situation. You can make as many accounts as
    you like (just call them pages). Of my 300 friends, all whom I know,
    3/4ths of them are too busy to have logged into Facebook for 3 months.
    Over half haven't been on in 6 months and over half the ones on are
    playing Farmville or Mafia Wars. Until recently, Facebooks policy was to
    not delete inactive accounts. I have at least one friend that passed
    away 2½ years ago, but he is still on my friends list!
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    So is spending the time to get a few million 'fans' over 3/4ths of which
    are 'inactive' in 6 months make sense? Pepsi spends over 20 million,
    for less than half a million fans, (in lieu of Super Bowl commercials),
    Coke spends over 40 million for almost 5 million fans. (Pepsi
    incentivised fans by donating to charity based on the number of fans
    joined. Coke did not. Polls of the respective fans show they already
    drank the page's beverage they signed up to. Except in the case of
    Pepsi, where several signed up to increase the donations, but still
    drank Coke!)
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    Going to take some convincing on my side to believe it is worth more
    than a minimal presence. Obviously if a company commits a faux pas,
    social media is the best place to admit liability and control the
    damage. But does being a 'fan' or 'liking' a company's page due to some
    incentive change where you shop or what you drink? And with effective
    campaigns (even non-profit ones) costing in the millions of dollars in
    man hours or incentivising, is it worth it? Are even successful not for
    profit campaigns like the California State Parks Foundation (which looks
    like it will fail in it's mission in the long haul after all, keeping
    the parks open only one extra year), that used more man hours
    volunteered than the money needed to keep the parks open, worth it?
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    Even Dell, who says they sold 6½ million in computers GROSS last year
    and hired over 100 people to just handle their Twitter account; did they
    end up in the black net? Certainly not in the short run. Perhaps a customer's
    LTV with them makes up for it down the road. They are certainly spending
    more than they are getting in the short run. The only reason to pursue
    SM for them would be to maximize the client's LTV.
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    I have seen people say they are 'successful' with twitter and Facebook, but
    have not seen confirmed statistics as to how much time they spend being
    'successful'. I have no idea what the hourly wage would translate to. I
    suspect if it were good, someone would have bragged about it. I have yet to see
    anyone spend more than a passing interest in SM; usually using automated
    means to duplicate content elsewhere on Twitter and Facebook for SEO and
    residual income reasons. I have yet to be convinced that if limited to those
    two sites, anyone could make a living income. Might be wrong. Might not.
    No doubt some sell decently on those sites. Not sure it is worth the time.
    (unless you are a Twitter or Facebook addict and would have been there anyway.)
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
    Originally Posted by MrMoneyGuy View Post

    Hi

    I do well in Google Adsense but no sales in my first 2 months of clickbank i have over 10k of followers using twitter, i would of thought at least i would have had 1 sale lol.

    But winners never quit and quiters never win...

    Im a winner but i need a bit of help please.
    You need to build an email list.
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  • Profile picture of the author silverwaterfall
    Your followers are probably all following you because you're following them and they're all trying to sell something too (That said, I still love twitter.)

    The email list is great advice.
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    • Profile picture of the author MrMoneyGuy
      Originally Posted by silverwaterfall View Post

      Your followers are probably all following you because you're following them and they're all trying to sell something too (That said, I still love twitter.)

      The email list is great advice.
      I not trying to sell all day everyday i just drop a tweet in around 4 times a week trying to sell something. I do this around my blog posts etc etc

      If anything i consentrate on opt ins and building a list etc etc
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      • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
        Originally Posted by MrMoneyGuy View Post

        I not trying to sell all day everyday i just drop a tweet in around 4 times a week trying to sell something. I do this around my blog posts etc etc

        If anything i consentrate on opt ins and building a list etc etc
        If it's not working, you just need to drop it and move on.

        It takes a special ability to quit when you know nothing's happening, but it's the mark of people who succeed.

        No sense in beating a dead horse.
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        • Profile picture of the author MrMoneyGuy
          Originally Posted by JasonParker View Post

          If it's not working, you just need to drop it and move on.

          It takes a special ability to quit when you know nothing's happening, but it's the mark of people who succeed.

          No sense in beating a dead horse.
          Thats why i joined here lol
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Morgan
          It's been said here before, content matters. Why are people following you? Is it because they're interested in your company or product? Not very likely. Most people follow you for a variety of reasons:


          1. They are genuinely interested in your company or product (very small percentage)
          2. They are also marketers auto following others. (Essentially worthless)
          3. They want to know when your dog poops (you're a celebrity or other public figure)
          4. They are interested in what you have to say (the most valuable)


          This has been my experience. I have been selling twitter marketing software and working closely with marketers, and this is what I've gathered. So if you look at those reasons above, which of those people can you direct sell to?

          #1: You can basically sell to a small percentage of #1, who are a small percentage of your overall followers. So if you get one sale out of 20,000 followers, you're doing good.

          #2: It's very difficult to sell to fellow marketers. They aren't even reading your tweets anyway, if they do they probably won't buy anything.

          #3: If you're a celebrity, you can probably direct sell at a bit higher rate than usual, but chances are if you're reading this you aren't a celebrity.

          #4: This is the group you have the best chance of selling to, but it's not easy either. They're following you because they're interested in what you have to say. You're providing information, influence or help. This is why they follow you, so you're filling a need. You're either an authority on something or have an ability to aggregate content to your followers. They still aren't looking to buy from you.


          So am I saying marketing on Twitter is a waste of time? Absolutely not. What I am saying is, direct marketing on Twitter is difficult, and time consuming and hardly anyone truly gets it right. So quit wasting time on direct sales.

          The true value in Twitter marketing is in branding and backlinks.

          By getting "eyeballs" from Twitter you can brand your company well. If you post links to your own company (in very small amounts) and get people to re-tweet them, you'll build traffic. Some of that traffic will be bloggers or webmasters who will link to you. This is achieved mostly by earning their trust. This is where the real value of twitter marketing is.

          Objectives:

          1. Get relevant followers.
          2. Post Interesting or useful content.
          3. Become an authority in your niche.
          4. Earn the trust of your followers.
          5. Sprinkle links to your site very sparingly.

          By doing these things, you can build a tribe that will follow what you say, and click your links a majority of the time. You can build a brand, build awareness, or build backlinks and traffic.

          Quit wasting time on tricks and gimmicks, and don't expect miracles from Twitter. Like everything else it gets swamped with spam and you have to work hard to stand out. Don't spam it, employ basic marketing techniques and utilize it properly. Build relationships and trust and things will grow exponentially.

          This is what I've learned from those who are doing it right.
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  • How did you build your follower base? The answer to this may reveal part of the answer to your question.
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    • Profile picture of the author MrMoneyGuy
      Originally Posted by socialmediawarrior View Post

      How did you build your follower base? The answer to this may reveal part of the answer to your question.
      Thanks i built my follower list by finding people who was doing the same is me and followed their followers but well known people.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Dolan
    Train your twitter followers or pre-train them - that is before they follow you (if they find your links on your sites, etc) make some type of committment to what they can expect, and let that be clear in your tweets too.
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    • Profile picture of the author Marty S
      Yes getting 10,000 or even 50,000 followers is not even a challenge on Twitter, but a lot of IMers or "social media experts" seem to think that is the goal of Twitter.

      Think about it, if nobody was trying to sell to you - then how many followers would you really have? My follows topped out at 3,000, then I ditched about a 1,000 of them!!! Mostly because they were all Spattering CB products, just like you are doing.

      Stop trying to get more followers, and start trying to find people you can genuinely help or connect with on a common (social or business) issue.

      More here...
      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post1531309





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      • Profile picture of the author VegasGreg
        There are some great tips being posted here for you.

        Originally Posted by MrMoneyGuy View Post

        Thanks i built my follower list by finding people who was doing the same is me and followed their followers but well known people.
        So your list consists of other people trying to sell Clickbank products, which means they also have a Clickbank ID, which means they can buy that same product with their own link(not saying that is right or wrong, just saying).
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  • Profile picture of the author rts2271
    I've never tried selling on Twitter, but I've also never heard of anyone making enough to buy dirt with it either. Twitter is not a sales medium, it's a communications / marketing medium. Use Twitter to take them to your sales page where you can display your unique selling point.
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  • Profile picture of the author koncorps
    Some good content in this thread.

    Good luck with yer twitter, hopefully you realize now that it's quality over quantity?
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    • Profile picture of the author MrMoneyGuy
      Originally Posted by koncorps View Post

      Some good content in this thread.

      Good luck with yer twitter, hopefully you realize now that it's quality over quantity?
      Yes im on the case i have set it so my blog posts are 2 every 24 now i need to reply to tweets and retweet during this hopefully build my optins aswell
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      • Profile picture of the author rts2271
        On a side note does the warriorforum have a retweet network? Or maybe should have one? Where a group all is buddies up and essentially retweeting niche related posts?
        Food for thought.
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  • Profile picture of the author PerfectedWeb
    As mentioned above, if you don't build relationship with your followers, none will trust you, and therefore will buy what you promote to them.

    Try another medium other than Twitter if you want to make some quick money because it won't happen.

    Just my 2 cents ...
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  • Profile picture of the author eaglechick
    People think I'm crazy - but I "screen" my followers before accepting to follow them.

    First I use Twellow to find "targeted" twitterers in my niche - they must be interested in what you tweet at least.

    Sometimes I just follow back and sometimes I look at their website - when I see something there that interests me or my followers I'll tweet it. I also send the blog/site owner a direct message to let him know what I think about his blog or comment on his graphics of twitter background (without being too sugary)

    When I notice some of my followers start to "spam" me, I unfollow them. Like in sending 5 or more tweets after one another.

    Before following someone look at the amount of followers he has and the amount of people he is following. If it isn't more or less the same, he is not managing his twitter account. You can tell a lot about someone by just looking at his tweets and the info on his homepage.

    I use Social Oomph that alerts me if someone mention me or send a RT - I then send a tweet to thank them.

    I only send one tweet out at the end of the day to announce a new blogpost or site page to get it indexed - the rest of the time I connect with people in my niche and sent out quotes or some other interesting stuff! I also retweet if I see something interesting from other tweeple.

    I mainly use twitter to build up connections to do guest blog posts in my niche and I've made a lot of valuable friendships and they use me often. This provide them with quality content and provide me with links - more valuable than a couple of sales!
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  • Profile picture of the author finallywealthy
    Some great tools, free tools even, like basic Socialoomph.com will allow you to "Vet" your followers on Twitter, thereby increasing your chance of getting better followers who are followers that might by from you some day.
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    • Profile picture of the author dougp
      With web 2.0 marketing, the conversion rate to sell products are extremely unless you target and segment your demographic heavily. Whats the point of having 100K followers if they don't convert? The number may look nice if you plan to sell advertisement to some unsuspecting webmaster, but otherwise it doesnt mean much. First, define your demographic, and start looking for followers that are parallel to that description.

      PS, i like your mentality .
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Originally Posted by MrMoneyGuy View Post

    Hi

    I do well in Google Adsense but no sales in my first 2 months of clickbank i have over 10k of followers using twitter, i would of thought at least i would have had 1 sale lol.

    But winners never quit and quiters never win...

    Im a winner but i need a bit of help please.
    I imagine that you thought Twitter was designed for selling Clickbank products? Actually, it's a social network, designed for social networking. If you take that approach ... and actually network with real people instead of the 10,000 spammers you likely currently have, you'll find Twitter can be a valuable resource.
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  • Here are a few tips, some of which may have already been said above:

    * Use a nice profile that clearly illustrates what you do and what they can expect from your tweets

    * Build a laser targeted list of followers that have the same interest as you (quality not quantity)

    * Take the time to get to know at least some of your followers and interact with them at a personal level

    * Make sure to have your own unique and genuine touch to each of your tweets

    * Reply to others when possible specially when they mention you and retweet when someone says something noteworthy

    * Don't direct your followers to landing pages and sales pages, but take them to a site (preferably your own) where you give them something of value (think great content) in return for their visit. They may come back if they like what they see.

    * Above all, be genuine! Twitter is NOT a "sales platform". However, its an excellent "engagement platform". It can be a source of massive traffic if you play it right.
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    • Profile picture of the author Orla Kelly
      Hi there, I am sorry things haven't worked out so far as you would like-and I mean SO FAR as you can turn this around. The fact you still have 10,000 subscribers-you must be doing something right!


      Some resources I have come across which may help you are are a FREE "tweeting with you" course with Alex Jeffreys-it is quite detailed and will show you how things should be done and all for free and also a resource I recently purchased but very inexpensive "Social Media Marketing:One Hour A Day by Dave Evans. Check out the reviews it got on Amazon and see if you think it is for you.

      Hope this helps

      wishing you every success

      Orla
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Al
    ... is glad he read this post.

    I've a question ... do you get click thrus to your Clickbank account? I'm not sure if I've made a sale with CB but I know I get click thrus and I believe I've signed up second tier affiliates with it.

    For me its a 10 minute a day job so I don't obsess over it and ... er ... interestingly enough to support what Brad said ... I ended up clicking on one of Brads Tweets today and watching his YouTube video interview about his 10 yrs in the adult industry which was good stuff.

    So ... useful tweets get traffic, create interest, build your reputation and I guess that's all part of internet 'marketing'.

    P.S. That last statement was one of thoese conversations you have with yourself to confirm and 'log' what you've just learnt : )

    I wasn't trying to tell you how to suck eggs (maybe i'm a bit punch drunk).
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