If there is no secret then how did you do it?

by EA
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Dear Warriors,

My future posts here will be full of value not more negativity or complaining! (but in all seriously I'm so grateful for all the help from this great forum.) THANK YOU SO MUCH, Anyway...

I just finished a great talk with a great marketer within this forum on Skype (However, I'm not sure if he wants me to mention his name because he is a very well known person here and also a great marketer)

I already make money online but nothing big or to brag about. I've made more then $2000 dollars this year online but haven't taken a lot of action.
(I'm still getting sales from day to day but it's not happening daily for me.)
Obviously because I don't take enough action but I'm going to change this.

I just wanted to drop this question:

"If there is no secret then how did you do it?" (that is to make $ online)

I did this by*

1. Being focused
2. Stick to one plan
3. I then took action
4. I then got the $.

And if you have time, what motivates you to get the job done?

Thank you and have a great day full of gratitude!
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  • Profile picture of the author mr2monster
    1. I work hard
    2. I learn THEORY
    3. I apply that theory to practice
    4. I take action (still need more of this)
    5. I optimize and systemize
    6. I repeat.


    Oh and fwiw, I'm still not as successful as I'd like to be, but I have a system that works and I just keep doing it and improving on it.
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  • Profile picture of the author imon32red
    I am still learning new things everyday but I do make my living from IM. I think that most people on here will tell you that there is no secret, only hard work. I would say it a little different. You have to find something that works, and then perfect it. Not the whole process. You need to figure out what causes results and then do it better. Then if you work hard at it you can make a living online. Just doing what other people are doing may produce small results, but not the kind that pay the mortgage.
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  • Profile picture of the author mr2monster
    Also, I believe that there IS a secret to success in internet marketing.



    That secret is to be a good business person.
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  • Profile picture of the author Maddi
    Originally Posted by EA View Post


    "If there is no secret then how did you do it?" (that is to make $ online)

    I did this by*

    1. Being focused
    2. Stick to one plan
    3. I then took action
    4. I then got the $.

    And if you have time, what motivates you to get the job done?

    Thank you and have a great day full of gratitude!
    1. Being CONSISTENT
    2. Persistent
    3. Being Focused
    4. NOT GIVING UP
    5. Taking action
    6. Establishing relationships
    7. Valuing Friendships
    8. Giving more and more

    What motivates me to get the job done?

    I think my 'WHY'. Like WHY do I want this?
    Then
    I ask myself how badly do I want it?

    Gets me pumped enough to work on a really really bad day and that is how I became full time Online.

    Maddi
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  • Profile picture of the author Samuel Baker
    A hell of a lot of perseverance and dedication to something I thoroughly enjoy.
    Applying methods and techniques which I have learned from WSO's other Internet Marketers; Optimizing those methods to suit my specific business needs.

    Patience; Time; Work.

    Results are coming for me now. Its a great feeling.
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  • Profile picture of the author dndoseller
    There is an unseen force inside me that takes me over and compels me to share what Im doing with more and more people everyday. Thats the only reason I endless study IM. It has opened channels for me that were previously blocked by many middlemen. Im talking about the music business of course.

    IM is just a set of cutting edge tools, not a substitute for vision, drive, passion, commitment and having some type of real bussiness that offers value.
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    • Profile picture of the author trafficwave
      Originally Posted by dndoseller View Post


      IM is just a set of cutting edge tools, not a substitute for vision, drive, passion, commitment and having some type of real bussiness that offers value.

      THAT... is VERY well said!

      "Internet Marketing" is just your use of a set of tools to help you accomplish your business objectives.

      If you don't have actual BUSINESS OBJECTIVES, you don't need to be thinking about "Internet Marketing" in any way, shape, or form.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dee Scofield
    Originally Posted by EA View Post

    "If there is no secret then how did you do it?"
    Old-fashioned persistence and determination helps a lot, and the belief that you're at least as smart as Joe Blow so if he can do it you can do it too. But probably the biggest thing for me was simply choosing ONE thing and sticking to it. We all hear that making mistakes is part of any learning process, but for some reason many people are so afraid of making mistakes in Internet marketing that they become paralyzed by inaction. Let go of fear, accept that mistakes will be made along the way, keep learning, and it will be nearly impossible to fail in the long run.

    Originally Posted by EA View Post

    what motivates you to get the job done?
    In the beginning I was motivated by my landlord, the electricity company, and my horrible habit of needing to eat everyday. :-) Now I'm motivated by my desire for 'time freedom', and a fear of having to go out and get a J-O-B again, lol.
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  • The biggest single element for me to make it was simply figuring out I had to stop focusing on not failing or making a few bucks and start focusing on how to make thousands. It literally turned my business around overnight (that was back in 2001, but it's still true today.)
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  • Profile picture of the author NewbiesDiary
    Originally Posted by EA View Post

    I already make money online but nothing big or to brag about. I've made more then $2000 dollars this year online but haven't taken a lot of action.
    (I'm still getting sales from day to day but it's not happening daily for me.)
    Obviously because I don't take enough action but I'm going to change this.

    I did this by*

    1. Being focused
    2. Stick to one plan
    3. I then took action
    4. I then got the $.

    I know this is a bit of a duh - but I think you've actually answered your own question!

    But if we go into this in more detail - Stick to one plan - it has to be the right plan or at least one that can work well FOR YOU.

    Personally, I bought every ebook, system etc etc I could find hoping this would be the 'one'. I did that for 3 years and it turns out they all helped to build my knowledge - but the taking action and sticking to one thing was a biggie for me.

    I have a site that still makes a little, in a desperate niche. It just ticks over and pays for the essentials like hosting, aweber etc etc. But as it's a desperate niche it's really not interesting or glamourous at all - so very hard to keep the motivation level up there!

    It wasn't til I got stuck into the offline arena that it all turned around for me.

    A speaker at a seminar said "If you're not making $1000 a week in internet marketing - you need to work with offline clients" or something to that effect (really wish I could remember who it was - sorry). Two days later I did a pre-launch of an offline niche site. I visited 6 businesses and pulled 4 x $600 cheques in only 2 days! $2400 from an idea and no website is pretty damned good I reckon!

    The motivation really was when my husband (a builder) fell thru the roof and broke his back - leaving us with exactly zero income!

    That was just over a year ago - Bloke is healed and back at work - and my business is thriving with a membership site for an offline niche, with another 2 planned in the next couple of months.
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    • Profile picture of the author thriftgirl62
      I used to think there were no "secrets" but that depends on what you mean by "secrets". Every single membership, forum, especially this one, has secrets, people have them, companies have them, we all keep secrets and sometimes we share them, but never publicly.

      People need people to succeed. 97% are not making any money online and nobody knows why. Everybody knows what, some know how but nobody knows why.

      Knowing how means you'll always have a job. Knowing why makes you the owner. People are hired to do jobs because the owner can't do it all plus run the company too.
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  • Profile picture of the author tyroneshum
    Love this Maddy!

    What motivates me to get the job done?

    I think my 'WHY'. Like WHY do I want this?
    Then
    I ask myself how badly do I want it?

    Gets me pumped enough to work on a really really bad day and that is how I became full time Online.
    And to answer OP's questions, my secret to being successful in internet marketing is:

    I'm...
    Always prepared (have plans here and there)
    Starting every day of my life setting up and revising my mind maps
    Focused
    Living the lifestyle I want because I outsource the tedious tasks
    Giving my customers the information that they need
    Not giving up
    Keeping and establishing good relationships
    Using the tools that we need
    Continuing the steps to optimize my strategies a lot more
    Rinsing them
    Repeating the process and
    Smiling often

    What motivates me when it comes to getting the job done is seeing the fruit of my and my team's efforts -- yielding more and more results as we make things happen. When there's fruit, there's always inspiration, and when there's inspiration, we get more things done and eventually income passively knocks.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      People greatly misuse the word secret.

      There are no secrets. There are just things unknown to you.

      When you first got into high school and had to take algebra, you didn't
      know anything about it. You didn't know how to do it. But it wasn't a secret.
      Algebra is out there for anybody to learn who wants to learn it. After you
      learned it, you knew it and could do it.

      It's the same thing with Internet marketing. There are no secrets. Every
      marketing tactic in the world is out there, at least as we know them now.

      Will something new be created?

      Maybe. Who knows? And if it is, it will be known someday as well.

      Does that mean that it will be divulged freely?

      Maybe, maybe not. Depends. Not all of your education in school was free,
      especially if you went to a college. You had to pay to get that knowledge.

      But it's out there if you want it.

      Now, having said all that, because there is so much involved in Internet
      marketing and so many variables, just knowing each thing isn't enough.
      You also need to know how to combine things such as squeeze page
      copy and followup autoresponder letters in order to get the max out of
      your promotions.

      This becomes more like chemistry than anything else. Sure, you have all
      these elements that you can combine but you need to know just how to
      combine them.

      H + O2 = H2O but you have to do this in a certain way. It doesn't just
      happen.

      So it is the human element that screws up the process.

      This is why I can say, do article marketing to make money, and give you
      a complete outline on how to do it, and you can still screw it up.

      Why?

      1. You don't know how to write to begin with.
      2. You can't construct a resource box worth its salt
      3. You can't do keyword research.
      4. You can't pick a profitable niche.
      5. You can't do a decent review of a product.
      6. You can't create a decent looking landing page.
      7. You can't write autoresponder followups that convert.

      And I can go on and on. And mind you, all the above given, provided that
      you were taught how to do each thing.

      Guess what?

      Just because you were taught doesn't mean you learned.

      I hated wood shop. I was taught specifically step by step how to make a
      foot stool. But I couldn't do it. I didn't have the ability to learn it and
      apply what I learned.

      I could give you my book on copywriting, which clearly outlines, step by
      step, how to construct a sales letter...with all the headline tricks and
      everything else involved.

      And you can still F it up.

      Why?

      Because you simply don't have the ability to write.

      You may be able to copy or mimic some of the things you are taught for
      the specific niche examples in the book, but when you have to apply
      the principles to a brand new niche, you can't do it.

      Why?

      You didn't learn...not really. More specifically, you didn't understand.

      This is why, in spite of all the knowledge in the world that some people
      have, they still fail.

      They don't really get it.

      As to how I did it.

      I guess I just kept plugging along until I got it. I bought some books, read,
      learned, applied, had some success, built on it, and kept going.

      It's no big secret. You either have the ability to absorb and apply what
      the material you have teaches you or you don't.

      This is why I put getting a one on one teacher who has proven success
      over buying a book, because you don't know if that book is worth jack
      or not.

      And, even if it IS worth something, you don't know how complete it is and
      if you will need additional materials to make something work.

      That's the biggest problem with learning this business from scratch. You
      don't know what you don't know, and therefore, you don't know what
      you need to know.

      It becomes one long treadmill until you either:

      1. Luck out on getting just the right training materials.
      2. Get somebody willing to give you all the pieces you need.

      And when I say all the pieces, I don't mean every little last one to all of
      Internet marketing. I'm talking about JUST the pieces you need to put
      something together that will ultimately generate some profit.

      Does that mean it will generate the optimum profit?

      Probably not. Even I'm not at that stage yet because I refuse to leverage
      the hell out of my business and outsource the crap out of everything so
      that I have 10 gazillion people working for me and all I do is sit back,
      supervise and watch the money come in. I like being hands on and don't
      like having to depend on others. So that limits my income.

      It is what it is.

      So you will never get the whole puzzle solved until you've actually
      reached the point where you are running a business that literally runs
      itself and is making you a fortune.

      But you can get enough of an education, provided you have the capacity
      to learn, to put you into profit.

      How much will depend on your business model.
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  • Profile picture of the author DrGUID
    I've been doing this for years, and have only made OK money.

    I now see a plan to make BIG money. My biggest change has been to use my brain more. I need to think SMART. That means finding out why something is making money, then rinsing and repeating so I go from $1 a day to $100+ a day. It means using brilliant tools like Google Analytics etc. etc.. It means finding hidden niches etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    I'd say my biggest strength has been focus and ongoing learning.

    I am very focused on what works for me.

    YET I choose to learn "new" methods everyday, BUT I just apply them IF they fit one of my business models.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew_Wardle
    Jesus Christ! If you have made more than $2000 this year then you are already WAY AHEAD of so many people you just wouldn't believe it.

    Your post doesn't detail exactly what you did to make this money, but it sounds like you are selling a product of some kind. If the sales page is converting then work your bollocks off driving as much traffic to it as you possibly can. Keep records. Test and track. Get rid of any campaigns which are not working and divert the money into the ones which are.

    If you are making sales of something then you must be driving traffic to a page somehow. Are you collecting opt-in email subscribers? If not, make that priority No. 1. Your list is your biggest asset. If you aren't building one, you are wasting a huge proportion of your traffic-driving effort.

    List building and product creation ARE internet marketing. Forget the other crap it is a waste of time.

    As to how I make money online, I started by selling writing services, because that is what I do well - write. At the time I started the Warrior Forum was a completely different place. You could run a WSO for free. Just stick an offer up and if it bombs try another one. You can't do that now.

    I still sell services because I like getting risk free income with no outlay. But I am focusing ever more on creating products and building lists. That is where the future lies.

    If you have ever gone hungry, if you have ever gone without, if you have ever had to sleep on the streets, even if you have ever had to lick an employer's arse for 40 hours a week just to get about half what you need to live on, then you won't ever worry about being "motivated".

    "Motivation" is bull****. If you need it, then you should get an undertaker because you must have died already and not noticed it.

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    • Profile picture of the author thriftgirl62
      Steven Wagenheim So you will never get the whole puzzle solved until you've actually reached the point where you are running a business that literally runs itself and is making you a fortune.
      If you can do all that then you are driven to succeed and you don't care how long it takes to finally turn a profit. People with drive do that all the time but most people don't have that kind of drive. How many people will end up with a business that "literally" runs itself and makes a fortune? Your chances of winning the lottery are better than succeeding on that level by yourself. That's why 97% fail. They set themselves up for failure and don't even know it.

      Invest in human capital and leverage the most valuable resource you already have: people helping people reach common goals. Working together works because you have experts doing jobs they love and collectively your end result can't help but grow exponentially. That doesn't happen without people because it's not humanly possible.

      Everyone is good at something but NOBODY is good at everything unless you're too young to know that yet. Know-it-alls will never have it all but they don't believe that so they keep trying "scam" after "scam" blaming everyone else. Nobody else can put a Stop Payment on your Reality Check. And nobody else can remove it either.

      Wealthy people tell you what their secret is all the time. Nobody believes it. Helping people is their passion because they know without help nobody succeeds. Wealthy people start movements to help the masses while greedy rich people do the exact opposite.

      Rich people won't help you do anything but keep spinning your wheels. They're experts at helping you, help them stay in control. The rich and powerful are greedy and want total control extending all the way up to the men behind the iron curtain. They tell the working class only what they're supposed to know by controlling the media. How much media coverage did this secret video about Bush get?

      Muntavo Lewis, 17207 Woodingham, Detroit, MI 48221, USA is a good example of how the wealthy help the working class get ahead. Even with his wealth and all his other resources, it's no easy task. Google his name and see what you find and then register your profile here Leah Dubyk (thriftgirl62) - Human Capital if you're interested in joining a group or starting your own. Most people are too scared to take a chance on what they believe. What will people think? OMG!! My mother always told me what other people think is none of my business and it's not polite to be nosy. I bet your mother is just as smart as mine. Ask her and see!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ryan D
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    I did it by...

    1) Starting out with Sitesell, which forced me to live "within a box" and not get distracted.
    2) Worked like crazy on that site, and that site only, for most of my time.
    3) Never, ever bought products that were focused on some sort of tactics not related to my core business. I've been in IM for 5 years and I pretty much only buy software and products that will push me to the next level in that business.
    4) Focused on diversifying, while still focusing on one site. E.g. Adding PPC instead of just organic traffic.
    5) Always looking for ways to increase order size or margins.
    6) Pretty much completely stayed away from everything that any major guru sold or promoted. The one exception was Stompernet (well worth it at the time). I might have missed out on a course or two that were worthwhile, but helped me keep my eye on the ball.
    7) I'll give a guru hat-tip here. Rich Schefren said to establish an hourly rate for yourself and outsource everything that is less than that +15%. That's what I did, and my hourly rate kept going up based on my earnings.
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    • Profile picture of the author thriftgirl62
      Originally Posted by Ryan D View Post

      I did it by...

      1) Starting out with Sitesell, which forced me to live "within a box" and not get distracted.
      2) Worked like crazy on that site, and that site only, for most of my time.
      3) Never, ever bought products that were focused on some sort of tactics not related to my core business. I've been in IM for 5 years and I pretty much only buy software and products that will push me to the next level in that business.
      4) Focused on diversifying, while still focusing on one site. E.g. Adding PPC instead of just organic traffic.
      5) Always looking for ways to increase order size or margins.
      6) Pretty much completely stayed away from everything that any major guru sold or promoted. The one exception was Stompernet (well worth it at the time). I might have missed out on a course or two that were worthwhile, but helped me keep my eye on the ball.
      7) I'll give a guru hat-tip here. Rich Schefren said to establish an hourly rate for yourself and outsource everything that is less than that +15%. That's what I did, and my hourly rate kept going up based on my earnings.
      QUESTION: Would Steps 2-6 have worked with any success if you didn't lay a strong foundation with Sitesell first? How did you know all that when you started, especially staying away from the guru-hype?

      Most people do not have the self-discipline to keep working without being sidetracked. SITESELL is awesome if you can stay "in the box" and that's why it's not easy making money online - at first.

      I want to call that "The PERFECT Plan" because when you add the massive forum of people helping each other, it just might be.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ryan D
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        Originally Posted by thriftgirl62 View Post

        QUESTION: Would Steps 2-6 have worked with any success if you didn't lay a strong foundation with Sitesell first? How did you know all that when you started, especially staying away from the guru-hype?

        Most people do not have the self-discipline to keep working without being sidetracked. SITESELL is awesome if you can stay "in the box" and that's why it's not easy making money online - at first.

        I want to call that "The PERFECT Plan" because when you add the massive forum of people helping each other, it just might be.
        For me personally I don't think they would've. I'm a pretty common sense person and the message of Sitesell appealed to me and gave me the confidence to just keep my head down and work. If I were to have come to the warrior forum for ideas on how to start, I would've been doomed. There are a million directions to go. Sitesell basically takes you through the method of researching, outlining, building, and then promoting.

        Once you get those skills down, you can start to build up your ancillary skills to supplement that. For me, I wanted to learn more about SEO so I bought Stomping the SE's. Then I wanted to learn about PPC, so I bought Perry Marshall's book. Then I wanted to learn more about e-commerce stores (my site evolved into one), so I went to Stompernet.

        The gurus though. I've never really been as enamored as others with them. Would I get value out of the stuff they provide? Probably. But I've always looked at product cost a little different than most people. I don't just look at a product that costs $2k and say "If I learn one thing, I can make that money back". I look at that and see the Money, plus the time I'll have to spend reviewing and implementing.

        In most cases, the opportunity cost of picking up a new guru course is too great. And most likely, it's just going to send you off in a new direction anyways.
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        • Profile picture of the author thriftgirl62
          Originally Posted by Ryan D View Post

          In most cases, the opportunity cost of picking up a new guru course is too great.
          And most likely, it's just going to send you off in a new direction anyways.

          You got that right! I've gone so far off I got myself involved with Mutants
          and became a Node Owner in another cloud far, far away. Moodly is about
          to take over Google any day now...
          Wish me luck!!

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  • Hardwork and determination to some may not be effective, we have different motivational factor. It might be a need, hobby or simply just for fun. Successful people say it is the law of nature - give more and you'll receive more, that is the secret.
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  • Profile picture of the author jennypitts
    I think everyone has their own definition and interpretation of success, based on whatever they set out to do and accomplished. I got to where I am today with a lot of hard work, determination, focus, planning, LEARNING, PATIENCE, long days and sleepless nights. In essence, I tried to put into MY own IM business the same or even more effort than I put into my corporate job. Because in the end, this is mine and I am working for myself and my family.
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  • Profile picture of the author EA
    If this thread only helps one I'm grateful, if it helps two or more I'm even more grateful..
    It's time to say thank you to everyone here but first I've struggle, I've failed, I've made mistakes, I've read a lot, I've not implemented a lot, *big mistake there I know*, I make money, I've had to deal with fear, information overload, feelings, I've been down but today I'm getting stronger and now something AMAZING happened inside me I finally get this I can see the whole picture now

    Now it's time to say thank you.

    @ Mr2monster: Thank you very much for your advice and nice comment.

    @ imon2red: I like the way you wrote this, thanks for sharing this with me and others who need it.

    @ Maddi: Thank you for your comment, advice and your ultimate success mindset report and when it comes to the WHY I agree with you and to be honest I‘ve been thinking about my WHY‘S.

    @ Samuel Baker: Thank you for your comment and the advice you gave others.

    @ dndoseller: Thank you for your comment and the advice you gave others.

    @ Dee Scofield: Thank you very much for sharing this with us. It‘s often the simplicity that works for example: sticking to ONE thing until you get results and it‘s truth about being parazlyzed by inaction.

    @ Kevin-VirtualProfitCenter: Thank you for your comment and sharing this with others.

    @ sluxents: Thank you for your comments.

    @ NewbiesDiary: Thank you very much for your comment I also want to use this opportunity and wish you the best in life and business, thank you for sharing this with us and it‘s great your husband is better. I‘ve personally been struggling because of two accidents and I‘m working getting stronger, anyway it‘s great to see you are moving forward and again good luck with everything you do.

    @ trafficwave: Thank you for your comments.

    @ thriftgirl62: Thanks for your wonderful posts and advice.

    @ tyroneshum: I really like the way you answered this question and it‘s my believe you will turn out successful. So it‘s time to use this opportunity and say thanks for sharing this with others here.

    @ JimmyS: Thanks for your comment.

    @ regska: I want to thank you for your comment and thanks for sharing it with others.

    @ sbucciarel: Thanks for your comment.

    @ DrGUID: It‘s great to see this thread help you and hopefully it will inspire others. I want to use this opportunity right now and wish you the best.

    @ Steven Wagenheim: I have to say this with BIG LETTERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH! Reading through what you wrote and reading what others had to say about this I really got it this time! I‘m grateful J and I want to use this opportunity to wish you the best but also recommend others should read this. But I‘m also full of gratitude for all the comments here and hopefully something here will help people to wake up and finally understand what they need to do to make it happen. Thank you so much.

    @ Fernando Veloso: Thank you for sharing this with us here, thanks for your advice and comment.

    @ Andrew_Wardle: I‘m grateful you added your words of wisdom here. Thank you so much for your comment and advice. I want to use this opportunity and wish you the best with your life and business but it‘s also great to see other people comment here and hopefully this will inspire others within this forum. Thanks again Andrew and have a great day.

    @ thriftgirl62: thanks for your comment and advice. I really appreciate what you wrote.

    @ Ryan D: Thank you for stopping by, thanks for your comment, insight and advice. It‘s really golden advice and I also want to use this opportunity and wish you the best in what you are doing.

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    @ Ryan D: Once again thank you so much for sharing this with us.

    @ Jennypitts: I like your words hard work, determination, focus, planning, learning and patience. Thank you for your comment, thanks for sharing this with others, hopefully someone will wake up.
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