Question? Why Do People Fail?

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As there are some of the top marketers on the net here in the Warrior Forum I would like your opinions on why people fail at MLM's, Network Marketing, Internet Marketing and business in general; Whats your Opinion?
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    It is mindset, yes, but it goes beyond believing you can and will succeed. There are many people with that kind of confidence who stumble and fail. I think you need that + an ability to focus until you see something through to the end. With all the shiny new opportunities to "get rich quicker" that are seemingly never ending, it's very very easy to fall into the trap of moving from one thing to the next over and over. That's a sure recipe for failure.

    So I'd say a drive and belief that you will succeed + being able to stay focused on your plan, even if the reward isn't immediate. Cuz it usually isn't immediate, but that's what most people are looking for.

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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Downward
    I totally have to agree with Vincent with mindset.

    The only reason that a person fails in business is because of their beliefs. If they do not believe that they will create success for themselves then they will not achieve. That is just the way it is.

    A person can learn all of the skills needed but if they really do not think that they can make the skills work for them, it's pointless.
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  • Profile picture of the author Quentin
    All good reasons but in the end some people are just not good at business.

    Not everyone is good at plumbing, electrical work, accounting and naturally some are just no good at IM networking etc.

    We had a truck driver do our course last year because he was getting old and wanted out of the truck driving business. He was very good and did all the tasks but just could not get it together.

    This year we had a seminar and asked him if he would like to help and attend the seminar for free. We put him on the sales desk and face to face with people was a genius.

    He is now the sales manager for the trucking company and doing great.

    Did he fail. In IM I guess he did but he found something he was good at that he never knew existed.

    He was just a people person and now loves what he is doing just talking to clients etc.

    I think this could apply to a lot of people. They are just not built to be business people but they may never have had the opportunity to find out what they are good at.

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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Mindset will only get you so far. Perhaps some people fail because they've focused too much on mindset and not enough on skill building and doing.

      Consider two fighters in a ring. Who wins? The one that has the better mindset or the one that is a better fighter?
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      • Profile picture of the author gearmonkey
        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

        Mindset will only get you so far. Perhaps some people fail because they've focused too much on mindset and not enough on skill building and doing.

        Consider two fighters in a ring. Who wins? The one that has the better mindset or the one that is a better fighter?
        Can't say I agree with this. One with a stronger mindset will be more determined to become the best.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
          Originally Posted by gearmonkey View Post

          Can't say I agree with this. One with a stronger mindset will be more determined to become the best.
          He can be as determined as he wants to be, but if the other guy is still better, he's going to get beat.
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          • Profile picture of the author gearmonkey
            Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

            He can be as determined as he wants to be, but if the other guy is still better, he's going to get beat.
            So the best make a $million+ year while the strong mindset ones who are determined only earn $500k per year. I wouldn't mind 'getting beat' if I'm still making 6 figures on a yearly basis.

            But that's just me.
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          • Profile picture of the author Brenden Clerget
            Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

            He can be as determined as he wants to be, but if the other guy is still better, he's going to get beat.
            Sorry, I'll have to disagree.

            I dabbled in MMA for about three years, and I had a better mindset, although I was smaller and weighed less than all my opponents. Many of them were better boxers, and in my mind, better fighters, but I was quicker and more agile.

            I could get rocked for two rounds, but I would stay focused on my goal to find a submission. They were obviously better fighters, but my mindset allowed me to stay focused on what needed to happen. As soon as I had an upper hand and acted on it, their "I'm going to win this fight" mindset wrecked them. They were always caught off guard, and even though I was gassed and had NO energy to do anything, they were so busy thinking "What's going on" that the next moment they found themselves tapping out.

            Mindset is HUGE. Mindset can lead to skills and discipline that you may never find out you have access to within yourself otherwise. It's really true that the power of positive thinking is huge in so many ways. I'm a firm firm believer that you manifest your own destiny.

            That's just me though

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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

        Mindset will only get you so far. Perhaps some people fail because they've focused too much on mindset and not enough on skill building and doing.

        Consider two fighters in a ring. Who wins? The one that has the better mindset or the one that is a better fighter?
        You have a point, Dan.

        But...

        I would suggest that the better fighter IS the one with the better mindset. They will be the ones that train harder, practice more, and invest the time in learning about the weaknesses of their opponents.

        So, in a way, I see it as a false dichotomy, or trick question.

        On the other hand, I think a lot of people misunderstand the idea of positive thinking. To use an example I learned from Mark Joyner:

        If I'm thirsty and have a glass of water in front of me, I can use all of the positive thinking I want - but my thirst won't be quenched until I actually pick up the glass and take a drink.

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        • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
          Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

          I would suggest that the better fighter IS the one with the better mindset. They will be the ones that train harder, practice more, and invest the time in learning about the weaknesses of their opponents.
          They can train harder, practice more, invest the time and still get beat by someone who is better.

          I've seen it happen. I've seen people that invest a whole lot of time and energy into something, spend every free moment training, and go out there with a strong determination to win and get beat by some guy who doesn't do any of that, who doesn't even care if he wins or loses.

          So, in a way, I see it as a false dichotomy, or trick question.

          On the other hand, I think a lot of people misunderstand the idea of positive thinking. To use an example I learned from Mark Joyner:

          If I'm thirsty and have a glass of water in front of me, I can use all of the positive thinking I want - but my thirst won't be quenched until I actually pick up the glass and take a drink.
          Yet, a positive mindset is not a prerequisite for successfully picking up that glass and taking a drink.
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          • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
            Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

            They can train harder, practice more, invest the time and still get beat by someone who is better.

            I've seen it happen. I've seen people that invest a whole lot of time and energy into something, spend every free moment training, and go out there with a strong determination to win and get beat by some guy who doesn't do any of that, who doesn't even care if he wins or loses.



            Yet, a positive mindset is not a prerequisite for successfully picking up that glass and taking a drink.
            All other things being equal--physical ability, reach, strength, speed and technique--a negative mindset isn't going to determine the winner either.



            But, all other things being equal, a positive mindset could, just maybe, be what it takes to tip the balance.

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            • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
              Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

              All other things being equal--physical ability, reach, strength, speed and technique--a negative mindset isn't going to determine the winner either.



              But, all other things being equal, a positive mindset could, just maybe, be what it takes to tip the balance.
              But things are rarely equal, and I don't think that the biggest factor in achieving success is necessarily a positive mindset. A positive mindset is not going to make people want to buy a poor service. It's not going to get many people to buy a junky product. It's not going to increase a demand for a product that no one would want or use.

              It's like the Shark Tank. Some people go on there with really, really positive mindsets. They are certain they have a great product and they are going to change the world and/or become millionaires. They have full confidence in their idea. They have a perfectly positive mindset. But that doesn't change the fact that some of them have really really bad ideas.

              All things being equal, maybe the guy with the good idea and positive mindset trumps the guy with a good idea and a so-so attitude. But, things are rarely that simple.

              My opinion is that people get hammered too much with mindset, mindset, mindset, if you think you can you can, be more positive, visualize your goals, mindset, mindset, mindset, and so on.

              And what results is a whole bunch of dreamers and not so many doers.

              And, in a way, that can be said to result in a number of people failing because of a positive mindset.
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              • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
                Yeah, I was really in the mood to write a book today.

                Why do people fail?...Let me count the ways.

                Let's start off with the basic foundation or he reasons why people even
                want to make money online in the first place, because many times, your
                motivation can be a HUGE factor.

                Off the top of my head:

                1. Lost job or has poor paying job.
                2. Excited by lifestyle they see flaunted by those successful.
                3. Simply want to do something different.
                4. Enjoys a challenge.

                None of these above are inherently good or bad. However, there are
                psychological factors that go hand in hand with each that MAY affect
                your performance.

                For example:

                Lost job or poor paying job

                This person is most likely under a lot of stress because they're having
                problems paying the bills. Trust me, some people can't work under that
                kind of stress so running their own business becomes a chore at best and
                a nightmare at worst.

                Excited by lifestyle portrayed

                Problem here is they're excited by the glamor but they don't see the work
                that went into getting that lifestyle. They find out, find it's too much
                work or more than they wanted to do, become disillusioned and say "The
                hell with it"

                Simply want to do something different.

                In most cases, these are people who are bored. Problem is, many people
                who bore easily will quickly get bored with their new toy. Then, when they
                see that the money doesn't quite come in as fast as they like, they also
                say, "The hell with it" and move on to their next hobby.

                Looking for a challenge.

                These people, oddly enough, probably have the best kind of mindset for
                making it in this business. At least they won't bore easily and won't get
                discouraged by lack of results. In fact...that will probably motivate them
                more.

                But...the above is just the beginning of the problem.

                Next...education

                I'm not just talking about getting an IM education. I'm talking about the
                level of general education and smarts some people have. Like it or not,
                we are not all born with the same learning capacity. And no matter how
                badly we might want something, some of us have to really struggle to do
                what others would consider basic.

                To believe or state that each person has the same ability for success is
                a fool's statement, because it just isn't so...no matter how much you want
                to believe it's so.

                If you think I'm kidding, I'll let you meet one of my friend's sons. He has
                as much ability to run his own business as I have to fly to the moon and
                survive with no space suit.

                And even if you have the ability to learn...where are you going to get
                your IM education from?

                If you're first starting, you don't have a clue. You don't know what's
                reliable and what's bull sh*t.

                Hell, it took me 3 years to even find out this forum existed.

                Getting an education is probably the hardest thing to do effectively
                because of all the misinformation and mass of information out there.

                But education isn't even the end of the trail.

                Next...outside factors.

                These range from anything from a nagging spouse who says you don't
                spend enough time with them to serious health issues to what have you.

                We don't live in a bubble. We have things in our lives that affect us
                every single day...some quite serious, like a dying loved one.

                Try to keep your mind on your business when your child is dying.

                Then of course we have things like finances, where people don't have the
                money to invest in even basic things like hosting, a domain and an
                autoresponder.

                And then of course you have those who are just too cheap to buy the
                things that they want.

                So you see, there is no one reason why people fail. There are so many
                potential pitfalls along the way, I find it amazing that somebody coming
                to the Internet with NO business experience at all, has ANY success
                whatsoever.
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              • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
                Originally Posted by HypeFree View Post

                The reason that movie Secret is wrong is because all they talk is positive thinking it's more complex as you stated, action trumps mindset. But bother are better. It's way more complex but this thread is a good start in exploring the issue!
                True. I certainly don't think that it's unimportant.

                I do think it is over-emphasized. In a lot of threads like this, often the response is mindset. Look at the first response in this thread: "Simple...it's mindset."

                It's become a mantra of sorts. Not doing well in IM? Too often the response is that it must be the person's mindset. To be fair, a lot of people here will jump in and suggest work ethic or, if they are working at it, they are working at the wrong things and so on. But, still there are too many that pin it on mindset.

                They're like the faith healers of the Internet marketing world. Not doing well? Well, you must not be positive enough.
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  • Profile picture of the author GregGarrison
    Mindset is one thing, but if you tend to jump from one big thing to the next, you will not succeed. I tell my students this all the time. Concentrate on one thing and perfect it. Trying three or four techniques will lead to overload and frustration. Once you start seeing results from your efforts, nothing will be able to stop you, but you need to put in the effort. Like I always say, NO EFFORT = NO RESULTS.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
      Originally Posted by GregGarrison View Post

      Mindset is one thing, but if you tend to jump from one big thing to the next, you will not succeed. I tell my students this all the time. Concentrate on one thing and perfect it. Trying three or four techniques will lead to overload and frustration. Once you start seeing results from your efforts, nothing will be able to stop you, but you need to put in the effort. Like I always say, NO EFFORT = NO RESULTS.
      With the proper mindset, a person would not be jumping from one thing to the next.

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      • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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        Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

        With the proper mindset, a person would not be jumping from one thing to the next.

        RoD
        Maybe it is the caffeine? Nah...
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Giannetti
      Originally Posted by GregGarrison View Post

      Mindset is one thing, but if you tend to jump from one big thing to the next, you will not succeed. I tell my students this all the time. Concentrate on one thing and perfect it. Trying three or four techniques will lead to overload and frustration. Once you start seeing results from your efforts, nothing will be able to stop you, but you need to put in the effort. Like I always say, NO EFFORT = NO RESULTS.
      I think ppl jump from offer to offer is because they are unsure that any of them will work.

      It is hard to try and perfect something if you are unconfident that it is going to even work.

      internet marketiing products sometimes create a lot of confusion cause people don't know if it is a good marketing strategy or some scammer trying to cash in.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Laziness.

    Following bad advice.

    Assuming they know better than the person they are supposedly learning from.

    Following a method that's a bad match for their skills.

    Not asking the right questions.

    Following poor business models.

    Not following through.

    Seeking advice from the wrong people.

    Not doing the necessary work.

    Taking "shortcuts" that really are nothing more than some combination of the items mentioned above.

    Lack of belief.

    Lack of belief.

    Lack of belief.

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  • Profile picture of the author Dayne Dylan
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    Honestly, I think some people get the "knack" for how internet marketing works and then, they take that and learn how to do these four key things...

    1. Learn to have laser targeted focus (do one thing at a time to completion)
    2. Learn to fail, rebound, and move forward with wisdom/knowledge
    3. Be fearless to try new things no matter what
    4. Do IM out of fun, not the mindset of "needing" to make money
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  • Profile picture of the author ~kev~
    Question? Why Do People Fail?
    I think most people go into the situation totally un-prepared. They either have no clue as to what is going on, or have no idea on what to do.

    All the time I see people wanting to open blogs or forums - and they do not even know what software to use, do not even know what kind of topic to pick. With that kind of knowledge, they sure do not know what the market saturation is,,,,, or any other technical details.

    Other people simply give up too easily. If they do not get thousands of hits within days, they give up and move on.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rikki_Fawkes
      Sometimes they fail because their affiliates drastically reduce their payouts. This has happened to me. They also might fail because they relied too heavily on one or two affiliates, and they ended up canning their affiliate program. Then, of course, they get to start all over again.

      And other times, they just give up too soon before seeing six figures roll in within the first month...
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  • Profile picture of the author JonMills
    1. They don't start
    2. They start but don't finish
    3. Because they don't measure up to someone elses idea of success
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Park
    Probably the biggest reason is a "focus" issue.

    I'm also guilty of that. The one reason why I couldn't make money for so many years was I always split my effort into so many different projects. And I jumped from one product to next product always looking for an easy fix or an easy "get-rich-quick" scheme.. It took me a long time to figure out that there's no such a thing. : )
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  • Profile picture of the author gapmarketing
    Some great posts here re. this topic.

    I do believe that it is down to a combination of factors. Yes the individual concerned allongside the various attributes and person does have if they would only utilise them.

    Yes the system or product but I would personally major on the mindset above all else because we see to many programs being slated where individuals have taken the product hoping route.

    Others have stuck with the same program and eventually had great success so it was hardly any fault of the program was it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Yes, mindset is put forth as a cure-all, but it's not enough.

    You say things often aren't that simple, well, nothing is - on either side of the coin.

    The mindset has to go along with other things. A positive mindset operating in a vacuum will only make you happy that there's no oxygen. But we don't operate in a vacuum. We all have skills and abilities and when those are combined properly with the right mindset (notice I didn't say positive or negative, just "right") good things can happen. Just as if those same skills were combined with the wrong mindset, they can hold us back.

    Here's an example of what I'm talking about:

    I have a friend that does quite well online, is smart and understands IM. Oh, and he is an excellent writer. HOWEVER, he takes far too many opportunities to say he's NOT a good writer. Now, if he were to apply the right mindset to his abilities, he could easily take his business to another level.

    Don't get me wrong, I do not think a positive mindset alone is enough to do anything; hence the glass of water analogy. I also know exactly what you mean about people not doing what needs to be done BECAUSE of positive thinking.

    It is NOT a magic wand, or genie in a bottle.

    But, when used in the right way, I truly believe it can multiply one's efforts in incredible ways.

    Setting goals is a good example.

    "People" say you HAVE to write them down. AND, if you do, they will magically come true, even if you forget about them.

    Hogwash!

    Does that mean goal setting is useless? Absolutely not, and I don't think that's what you're saying. Seeting good goals can also help you accomplish much more than you could without them. (Also, you DON'T HAVE to write them down as long as you have them firmly fixed in your mind).

    Ultimately it comes down to this...

    All things being equal, positive thinking and goal setting are decent things. But don't think they are some sort of magic spell. You still need to do what needs to be done.

    Besides, you'll notice there is one item in my initial list that's repeated three times.

    BELIEF

    Without that NOTHING else works. Not positve thinking. Not goal setting. Not taking action. Not persistance. Not desire. And the list goes on.

    Just like my friend...all he needs is belief.

    All the best,
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    • Profile picture of the author chazmer
      information overload. I've only started making profits recently, but when i first started i read waaaaaaaaay to many free ebooks and guides, it's the nature of the beast when it comes to affiliate marketing, you feel like there's some sort of secret that your missing. When in actual fact the secret is to knuckle down and get to work
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  • Profile picture of the author RichardSchulz
    Sorry it took a minute to respond to everyone, just got out of the hospital...
    Thanks to everyone for the great feedback, really some interesting ideas and opinions.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      I want to add something to my initial post because this is probably one
      of the biggest reasons people fail...laziness.

      Without mentioning any names, I got an email from one of my membership
      site members.

      The site is updated daily and afterwards, an email goes out to the members
      telling them they can download the latest update. All they have to do is
      log in and download.

      One person emails me and says, "Can't I just send him the update so that
      they don't have to log into the site?"

      I have no words for people like this, but obviously someone that lazy is
      never going to be successful.
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  • Profile picture of the author Victoralexon
    I think there is more than one single reason why people fail.

    I think the reasons why people fail at Internet marketing are the same as the reasons why people fail at any other endeavours in life, in most cases that is.

    Some reasons would be;

    Beliefs
    Not taking enough action
    Attitude
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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Barboza
      Originally Posted by sdavadi View Post

      I believe the key to success is to be like Nike and JUST DO IT
      It's more than that indeed. You need a plan that have good chances to succeed. If you keep implementing the wrong strategies you will fail despite the action you are taking.

      just my opinion
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      • Profile picture of the author luckystepho
        I think that many newbies fall into the trap of thinking they have to get into the IM and Make Money Online niche, without understanding concepts such as keyword research, credibility and market saturation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Barboza
    Two reasons I can think of are a wrong mindset and lack of focus
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  • Profile picture of the author edhodgson
    Some very good points throughout here.

    BUT, should the question not be, "Why do people quit?"

    Starting anything new will always take dedication to learn the ropes and gather all the skills and tools required. Then maintaining that positive mindset of success without seeing initial results can be hard enough.

    But, really, I think 9 times out of 10, people don't end up failing at something, they end up quitting before they see the fruits of their labours and then throw their hands in the air and declare that they have failed.

    They didn't fail, they quit before they saw the results they were working towards.

    If you absolutely REFUSE to quit at something, then you will eventually see success, and cannot fail.
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    • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
      Originally Posted by edhodgson View Post

      They didn't fail, they quit before they saw the results they were working towards.
      ‘Never confuse a single defeat with a final defeat.’ - F. Scott Fitzgerald

      ‘Many of life’s failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up.’ - Thomas Edison
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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        I really don't think most people plan well enough to succeed.

        Tried this and it didn't work out as expected. Oh well, I guess I will try this other thing. Nope, that didn't work. Hmmm... I heard that one thing was making people a lot of money.

        Darn it, that didn't work at all!

        This is all a scam. You are all scamming people. I quit!

        Oh look, gummy bears!
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  • Profile picture of the author kursat
    From my experience the single biggest reason for failure was trying to do everything at the same time.

    The day I stopped learning and start doing changed my income from online businesses. I know we have to carry on learning the new stuff but sometimes it is better to stick with a simple plan and see it through.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
    I believe that there are three components to success and that failing to have any of the three can, and usually does result in failure.

    1. Knowledge 2. Ability 3. Persistence.

    If I want to travel from L.A. Ca. to New York N.Y. I will need to know the route (Knowledge).

    I must have the ability to make the trip (car, bike, walk...) if I am unable to move, I will fail.

    Finally, I must be persistent enough to finish the trip. I can't stop when I get tired, run out of gas, get a blister...

    Let's say that I have the ability and I have the persistence but I don't have the knowledge. I could end up walking in circles for the rest of my life.

    So back to the original question, my answer based on my personal belief is that a person that is lacking any of those three above, will fail.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Originally Posted by Matt M View Post


      1. Knowledge 2. Ability 3. Persistence.

      Knowledge isn't enough, imo. You need to be able to put that knowledge into a workable plan.

      Something that you can use to gage your results.

      People find PPC expensive because they really don't have a plan in place. They send traffic to a sales page and hope to make a few cents.

      Instead of creating a sales funnel to increase their customer value they say it doesn't work or the costs are too high.

      Well, instead of saying the cost is too high, you would think they would ask themselves how they can earn more per customer to make a profit.

      Nah, I think I will go with article marketing instead since it doesn't cost me anything.
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      • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
        Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

        Knowledge isn't enough, imo. You need to be able to put that knowledge into a workable plan.
        I thought that fell under knowledge. If you have the knowledge to make a workable plan...

        If you don't have the knowledge to make a workable plan, then you are lacking the knowledge to continue successfully.
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        • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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          Originally Posted by Matt M View Post

          I thought that fell under knowledge. If you have the knowledge to make a workable plan...

          If you don't have the knowledge to make a workable plan, then you are lacking the knowledge to continue successfully.
          Not in my opinion.

          I know a lot of book smart people that have no common sense. They can test better than most of the class but can't put that knowledge into action.

          There is a ton of knowledge right on this forum. All that you would ever need to succeed online. Yet many people still fail.
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          • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
            Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

            Not in my opinion.

            I know a lot of book smart people that have no common sense. They can test better than most of the class but can't put that knowledge into action.
            So what would you classify your "common sense" as?
            Would you say that common sense is something other than knowledge?

            If they can't put the knowledge into action, I would say that they don't have the "ability".

            Many people are unable to be entrepreneurs, but that doesn't stop them from coming in here and trying
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          • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
            Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

            Not in my opinion.

            I know a lot of book smart people that have no common sense. They can test better than most of the class but can't put that knowledge into action.

            There is a ton of knowledge right on this forum. All that you would ever need to succeed online. Yet many people still fail.
            Thomas, I think I understand what you're saying.

            In math, some people can understand the principles of advanced math and
            do well enough to pass the test. But then, when they try to apply those
            things in the real world, or with problems that weren't in the book, they
            fail because they've essentially done everything by rote and don't know how
            to think on their own.

            In order to do that, you really have to understand the material and then
            you have to be able to apply it to a real situation.

            A better example is somebody, like me, who learned marketing in college.
            I had book smarts, but I didn't really understand the real business world
            well enough to be successful until I actually tried a few things, failed,
            and then saw what it was I was doing wrong.

            Book smarts will only get some people so far.

            And then there are folks who don't know a darn thing but know that
            if they have something that other people want, they can sell it.

            For those who don't believe this or are skeptical, do you think that every
            successful marketer ever was book smart?

            I don't. I think some people have the kind of personalities and just enough
            communication skills to get anybody to buy just about anything.

            Imagine a typical kid scenario between two kids with trading cards.

            I'm sure some of you have been victim of this.

            One kid is looking through his cards and remarks about all these cards
            that are sooooo cool. Well, the other kind wants to see but the one with
            the cards won't show him. So now, the other kid wants these cards
            even more.

            Finally, the kid with the cards let's the other kid see ONE card and sure,
            it's a great card. So the other kid says, "Okay, I'll take the whole set."
            He doesn't really know if the other cards are as good, but he knows the
            one card is great and he's taking a chance the other ones are too.

            That's salesmanship and kids know how to do that better than anybody.

            At least where I grew up. I ended up buying a whole box of cards from
            this kid Steven Switchel for about $5. Most of the cards were crap and
            one flat out scared the crap out of me. But there were a lot of good ones
            and I was happy with the purchase. I played with those cards for a long
            time.

            He sold me.

            He didn't learn that from a book.

            Can you learn from a book and can you be successful because you did
            learn from a book? Sure.

            But the two things don't have to go hand in hand.
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            • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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              Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post


              In order to do that, you really have to understand the material and then
              you have to be able to apply it to a real situation.

              Yep, that is one of the points I was making in regards to knowledge not being enough.

              Some people will follow what a person teaches and then be surprised it didn't work out as good as was told.

              Well, all markets are not the same which is why we always advocate testing.

              Instead of tweaking and testing again, I have seen others just dismiss what was being taught as a scam.

              They didn't see the idea or reason behind the method in order to make it work.

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            • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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              Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

              There is, Thomas - but it's easy for you and me (say) to look "back" at that knowledge, knowing what we do and seeing it clearly for what it is, and perhaps we slightly lose sight of the fact that there's also a ton of misinformation here (albeit less of it here than in other forums). We can identify that for what it is, too, and either choose to ignore it or even subconsciously filter it out, but someone with no successful experience can't do that at all, can't differentiate between "information" and "misinformation", and it's really tough for them, don't you think?
              That is why I said knowledge isn't enough.

              Understanding will help you ascertain what is good or bad information. Yes, there is a lot of bad information out there.


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          • Profile picture of the author WPblogmatic
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            Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

            Not in my opinion.

            I know a lot of book smart people that have no common sense. They can test better than most of the class but can't put that knowledge into action.

            There is a ton of knowledge right on this forum. All that you would ever need to succeed online. Yet many people still fail.
            Yeah!!! Smartest thing I have heard all day!! So true!
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      • Profile picture of the author Lance K
        Why do people fail?
        Some people never move because they're affraid to fall.

        Some people move but don't pick themselves up when they fall.

        Some people pick themselves up but run into the same wall again (sometimes more than once).

        Some people pick themselves up and run into the next shiniest wall.

        Those who succeed pick themselves up, realize that running into a wall didn't provide their desired outcome, decide to try a different approach, notice a door, open the door, walk through it, and proceed on toward the next learning experience between them and their desired outcome.
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  • Profile picture of the author alsmith1
    I believe lack of focus and lack of belief in one's abilities, both of which I am guilty of. I believe a positive attitude will pay great dividends IF you take action. Also getting a basic education in IM can be tough because of so much misinformation that is out there, it is difficult to tell what is good information and what is not when you first start out because you don't know, you just have to sift through the tons of information you find and kind of decide which is good and which is not or find someone who has experience that you trust to tell you which info is good. It can be quite confusing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
    Another reason that people fail is that they operate under a false belief. They have heard something so many times and become so entrenched in their beliefs that are unable to recognize truths and facts when they are staring them in the face.

    You keep seeing some of the same answers to questions here that have been answered that way for years and not accounting for the fact that the World changes and the Internet changes even faster.

    What may have been true last year in regards to a type of marketing may not be true now. There are shifts in the way people view products, content, and relationships that push aside the old ways of doing things.

    But those that are stuck in their old beliefs also get stuck in their techniques.

    They continue to think that the old "tried and true" way of doing things is still the "best" way to do those things.

    So getting stuck in an archaic belief can keep you from progressing and can result in failing to make the necessary changes to succeed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    > Why Do People Fail?

    Because quitting becomes more attractive than holding on to the dream. Everything else is just details.
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    Just when you think you've got it all figured out, someone changes the rules.

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  • Profile picture of the author Owen Smith
    From the IBM founder . To become a success, double your rate of failures.
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