Newbie question about managing yout time!

14 years ago

There is no right or wrong answer here. You need to spend as much time as necessary to get what it is you want. I know a lot of guys who would work a normal 9-5 job and then come home and work all through the night on their IM businesses. How can they do this? They can see the end in site and they will do anything to achieve it.

I wouldn't be spending too much time in the beginning on things like web design, seo, etc, etc. There are plenty of people out there who can do this stuff for you. If you try to become the master of everything you will end up being the master of nothing.

Get started building a list and if you need anything to aid you in that along the way, outsource it!

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fadhlibiz

14 years ago

Hi,

There is no perfect formula for this. In business especially, a lot of trial and error takes place. For me, when I first started, almost everyday, whenever I am free is spent on the internet, marketing and promoting and emailing and chatting (to potential clients) and networking.

Not to mention reading articles, emails and ebooks. All this while I still have a day job outside.

I'd say, out of 24hrs, 4hrs - sleep, 8hrs - day job, 12hrs - online. Not to mention that 8hrs at the office is also online too.

I'm pretty wired up from day 1.

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pearlydean

14 years ago

I agree with Will there is no right or wrong way as you need to work to your strengths.

My way of working is at the end of the day think about what I want to achieve the next day. Then I write a to do list and prioritise it in order of urgency making sure that I highlight the three things that have to be done as A1, A2 and A3. As long as I get these three things done first then I am moving my business forward.

When I start work at 8am I switch off email, twitter, facebook etc then work 45 minutes on the first task and then take a 15 minute break. I do this for the next 8 - 10 hours and achieve much more than I used to when I thought I was working flat out without a break!

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MassiveMarketer

14 years ago

Take the time you need to fulfill your plans. Making your schedule will really depend on what you need done first. Always start with the basics of SEO, web design etc and piece them altogether. It will take some time definitely but it's how every business goes.

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Adam Sandford 14 years ago

I agree with Pearlydean you need to have a to do list. What you want to do is get a sheet of paper - yes, I did say paper; I know this is an online business, but the amount of paper I go through for taking notes, setting goals and daily tasks is crazy, so get your sheet of paper and set out the most productive tasks that you have to complete for the day. These tasks then need to be prioritised. I would suggest labeling them A, B, C, and so on, A being the highest priority.The way I choose my highest priority tasks for any given day is to think, what do I need to do to make significant progress in that day? Always do the hardest tasks first and work your way through your list as the day goes on.
You definately should work for 45 min to an hour and then take a 15 min break, if you do this you will notice a huge improvement in productivity.

Hope this helps
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Steve Sanchez

14 years ago

It really depends on you, your personality type and work ethic. If you are someone who jumps from one thing to another because it is hard to hold your attention, then I would say 1-2 hours a day and nothing more. If you are highly motivated to finish a project then you could work 8 hours straight or until you finish.

Be careful though. The number 1 reason people fail at this is that they burnout. Information overload is a killer. Decide what you want to do first. Do you like graphic design, web site design, programming, writing etc. Find out what you really want to do for yourself first then outsource the other stuff if you can.

There is a lot of free and paid training out there to accomplish what you want to do. You just have to devote the time to what interests you. If you want to learn graphic design, check out my signature link. If you want to learn how to write effectively, search the forum for the experts. Everything you need to succeed is available to you here. The rest is up to you.

Good Luck

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gjabiz

14 years ago

MagicAce,

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Learning Design, Web Design, SEO...

You posted last week about your frustration with your efforts so far. I strongly advise YOU to read my link below...the one about 30 days. You might see someone you recognize.

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Originally Posted by MagicAce

Hello,
So my question is to you that are for some time in online money making business how much did you spend a day when you first started and what advice can you give me about managing my time betwen:

Learning Design, Web Design...
Learning Seo, Techniques
Aplying

What should be the proportion alloted to each?

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meph

14 years ago

I spent about 16 hours on the internet at the start, before realizing the importance of focus. I tried to do too many things at one time, and it just didn't turn out too well.

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mlord10

14 years ago

1. First of all, pick a reliable business model and stick to it. I focus most of my time on affiliate marketing, because that is what I enjoy. Is it the only way to make money online? No. However, pick a proven business model and stick to it.

2. Once you have a business model, you need to setup a simple website and start building a list. List building is very important online, and although some business models do not require list building, most successful online marketers have a targeted email list.

3. In order to build a list, you will need traffic. It is important to remember that a business is not just a website or product: A business is... Customers.

I would advise you to focus your time on learning to drive traffic to your website, and also make sure that you understand your target market. I also think it is helpful to learn some simple web design skills, but not necessarily vital.

It is very important to make sure that you are accomplishing tasks on a daily basis, because if you are not careful you can waste a lot of time in this business.

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Daniel Deegan

14 years ago

Here are a few things that come to mind that may help you.

1.Only study something that is REQUIRED to implment what you are trying to take action on at this specififc time.

2.This doesnt work for every subject but it does work for many topics. Study the subject for 1 hour then right after that hour is up take a quick break and then spend 1 hour implmenting what you just learned.

3. keep your todo list short (I use GTD not a todo list though). I personally focus on 1 major goal that I've chunked down into small tasks. Once my major goal (I call it my power move of the day) is done, I'll move to my next goal or create a new goal to work on during my remaining work schedule.

As long as my single main goal for the day is done I feel good and have little trouble staying motivated long term on a project. So even if I end up goofing off the rest of the day I'm cool with it because my major objective has been completed.

For me this works really well becuase I always feel like I'm making progress. On the flip side when I use to have a big ass todo list I always felt overwhlemed by the fact that there was so much todo and never got as much done which caused me to feel bad about my self and my progress.

4. I use visualization in the morning right after I write down my major goal for the day. I imagine in my minds eye what completing the goal will feel like and look like. I step into the scene and live as if the goal is already completed for a few moments. (I'm a big pyscho cybernetics fan which is were this is from)

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Jill Carpenter

14 years ago

Originally Posted by MagicAce

Hello,
So my question is to you that are for some time in online money making business how much did you spend a day when you first started and what advice can you give me about managing my time betwen:

Learning Design, Web Design...
Learning Seo, Techniques
Aplying

What should be the proportion alloted to each?

As others have stated, this is a very personalized answer. And you may not need to learn a single thing about web design - unless this is what you are going to specialize in.

If you put together a proper business plan, you'll be able to break down the exact things you will need to learn how to do.

For example, if my plan includes making a blog then I can cut some corners. I won't need to learn web design because wordpress will give me the platform to manage my content and there are a zillion free themes already on the web to use. No "design" knowledge really needed.

How much SEO do you need to know to get started? I dare say someone can have the basic idea down in well under an hour. But something like SEO is an ongoing learning process as some of the search engines refine their algorithms and change things. So, you either do some regular reading on the topic or you can outsource someone to do this work for you.

You don't need to know everything - you only need to know what you need to know.

How do you know what you need to know? You create the basic business/marketing plan out first and this will tell you.

If I am making a niche site about the best phones to use, and I am going to monetize on the site with adsense, then I need to learn about how adsense works. I don't need to waste my time learning how affiliate links work. I don't need to learn Joomla, I don't need to know about setting up links to paypal, I don't need to worry about how the product is getting delivered to the customer. I need a site, I need some relevant content, and I need to know where and how to place my adsense on the site so it gets the most clicks. I need to know enough about SEO to make the best types of ads appear, and maybe how to use it to direct traffic and get some long term benefit.

Figure out your niche, figure out what they want, figure out how you are going to monetize on giving them what they want, and don't waste time learning scripts and things that won't get you to your end result.

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NewbiesDiary

14 years ago

Learning Design, Web Design - pretty much no time - use Wordpress. It installs in a second using Fantastico in your hosting control panel. Then do a quick Google search for "Free WP Theme", and you could even put in your niche or a colour you'd like.

Learning Seo - Install "All In One SEO" or a similar plugin to your Wordpress site and that's pretty much taken care of. Don't forget to use your tags and categories too. So probs spend a day getting the hang of SEO on your blog posts.

Techniques - buy yourself ONE system from a proven teacher - I recommend Yaro Starak or Chris Rempel for a simple, proven, easy to follow system. Follow ONLY that system - don't stray from it, don't be tempted to try something quicker, better, faster, bigger, brighter etc.

Aplying - as long as it takes to get yourself to where you'd like to be.

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IRichie

14 years ago

Do not try your hands on everything. If you do that, you will find yourself at nowhere after few months.

Do the things that interest you.
For example, if you find SEO a boring thing but web design an interesting one then go for web desigining. Do designing for yourself. Find some people to pay you for their designs. Give commissions to people who bring work for you and so on.

Just do whatever you like, do not do everything. You will progress rapidly in the things you are interested in.

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reynoldscorb

14 years ago

I was so impressed with Internet Marketing that I literally spent all day working on my sites and campaigns. I don't recommend that, but I would focus most of your time on one thing. Don't spread yourself too thin.

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jennypitts

14 years ago

MagicAce, I think that is a matter of preference. It definitely depends on how much you want to succeed at Internet Marketing. When I started IM I was part of the corporate world and started off on the wrong foot, doing all the wrong things, and listening to the wrong people. But hey, that's a whole different story. I think you should first learn as much as you can and start implementing as you go. It also depends on how much time you have on your hands to dedicate to IM.

I suggest you write down everything you think YOU need to do in order to start seeing results. Try to assign about an hour to each thing. And as each day goes by you will see for yourself which areas you need to dedicate more time to. Each marketer develops a strategy that works best for them, their personality and their way of work. Good Luck

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Sam Lincoln

14 years ago

Hi,
It depends on how your schedule is. Each individual's priorities are different. Also, while it is great to learn web design, SEO etc, a person can very easily get information overload! It is one of the most common problems of newbies.

If you're looking to start an online business quickly, then I would recommend that you allot most of your time researching a profitable niche or niches first, since this is the most important step while developing any online business. All the SEO, web design and other tricks will be useless if the niche you choose has no market.

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GregGarrison

14 years ago

What I found that works great for me is to set daily, weekly and monthly goals, and work at them until they are complete. Helps me stay focused and keeps me motivated. Take a day of every now and then.

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Mark Jordan

14 years ago

Depends on what you would like to achieve and how much time you have in your hands (although you can always delegate).

Write down you specific goals. Have an idea of how you want your business to be progressing over the next 6, 12 and 24 months....

Keep track of how often and how long you are actually working your business. Make a schedule and list the things you need to do.

You may have heard the saying "Small time action creates small time results." So, if you have an online business treat as you would a traditional business.

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Stuart Stirling

14 years ago

I would say that you need to spend as much time as you need.

Most poeple need to learn at the start and then apply.

There is no right or wrong answer for the ratio of learning to applying,
you'll just have to jump in and see what works best.

But.. like some others have mentioned, you need to focus so you
use your time efficiently.

Usually for me, it's when I want to do something I go out and learn it.
I suggest you do that.. start to 'DO' first and then stop to learn as you go.

Best of luck,
Stuart Stirling

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m100k

14 years ago

I spend quite a lot of time online because the way I look at it, what works today might not work tomorrow. Everyday I tell myself no one is going to work harder than me and I set my to-do list for the day.

I attack my list until it is completely finished and if I'm tired I usually take my energy drink.

Usually by thurdays or so I'm pretty spent and I begin cutting my to-do list short. I used to work on weekends as well but now I spend that time analyzing my work for the week. Track, tweaking and see if changes need to be made.

Its important to not only work hard, but to work SMART.

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mlord10

14 years ago

Originally Posted by MagicAce

Hello,
So my question is to you that are for some time in online money making business how much did you spend a day when you first started and what advice can you give me about managing my time betwen:

Learning Design, Web Design...
Learning Seo, Techniques
Aplying

What should be the proportion alloted to each?

I also wanted to add that if possible, you should try to wake up fairly early and start accomplishing tasks for the day. I try to start my day around 7am, have my coffee, watch some ESPN, and start working around 8am.

Usually if I do this, I can have a productive day and still be finished by 3 or so... But I am addicted to my computer, hence my posting at almost 1am EST

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