Frustrated! Why do the Google Gods hate me so?

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Ok, why does Google hate me so much? Why can't they just let a newbie start making money online so he can leave one of the worlds crappiest cubicle jobs? Why?

Here's the scoop:

After reading tonnes of information, getting bombarded with IM emails, buying programs (thankfully returned most) I finally decided to start taking action about a month ago. What did I start with your just dying to know- I found a good Clickbank product (good in the sense that there are tonnes of emails, articles and banners+ support to be used and good gravity although competitive). The product creator sent out emails on how to succeed with adwords. I was excited and pumped up! *
I created my ads and then ran them on the search and content network after doing keyword research etc. At first, I was getting quite a bit of traffic so it looked exciting. Then Google came along and biatch slapped me because I was cloaking my links using Pretty Links (link was www.mywebsitename/whateverIchose- did not use tiny url). Quality score went down and now this idea is dead.

Fine, I can accept that this is a method that may have worked at one time but less so now as someone pointed out to me here in the WF.

After reading post upon post here and learning about the benefits of Article Marketing, I decided to do things that might take more time, but in the long term will pay off.

So, I set up my money review site with a free ebook optin, after Market Samurai showed me the keyword way. I *wrote an article - ok I should say I re-wrote one with the product creators permission using The Best Spinner (going to write many more), posted it to my site and respun versions (although I now know duplicate content is a myth) to a Hubpage, Blogger and Wordpress sites I now own and linked all back to my money site. Also submitted to ezine and articlebase which both accepted it with links back to money site. Due to time limitations this was all I could do (work and mba got in the way) but I will be scaling this significantly in a few days. Anyways...

A couple days later someone opted in to my email list for the free ebook. I was ecstatic! *I barely did anything and already had one of the six people who saw my ezine sign up. It didn't matter I hadn't set much up in aweber in terms of email follow ups but the basics were there.

So I started adding in follow up emails from the vendor with a lot of great tips and content for readers relevant to the ebook in the hopes the person clicks the links and buys the product (why did I just explain that in an IM forum .

I added myself to the email list to ensure everything goes ok. *I looked and saw that the message went out. Logged into my gmail, and didn't see the email. Where did it go? *The bastwardos known as Google marked it as spam even though aweber calculated 0 out of 5 for spam. *The message stated something along the lines about the links in the email not being trustworthy or some iteration of that. In actuality, the content in the email is non spammy at all and provides excellent information and not about the product- more general tips and research information.

So now I am peaved because the person who signed up has gmail and I know many others will too! *I finally a *have good plan in place and Google is going to screw me again! *The 2 links in the email are within anchor text and do redirect again using pretty link, but they are not cloaked and rather a 307 redirect. www.mysite.com/somethingimakeup

So I need your help please. I constantly get tonnes of affiliate emails from people using both tiny urls and redirects in the same way I use them and they don't go to spam. So what gives? *What do I need to do to get around this? If I can, I might make some money. If not, this plan is pretty screwed. Thanks in advance and sorry for the short post.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
    My advice is to sacrifice a goat and a skin of wine.

    It helps if you can invite some friends over, have a bonfire, make a thing of it.

    Do some chanting and dancing... show the Google Gods you know they are fickle, and that your life is at their mercy...

    -Dan
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    • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
      Originally Posted by Daniel Scott View Post

      My advice is to sacrifice a goat and a skin of wine.

      It helps if you can invite some friends over, have a bonfire, make a thing of it.

      Do some chanting and dancing... show the Google Gods you know they are fickle, and that your life is at their mercy...

      -Dan
      Worked for me, but you have to do it more than once I've found.
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    • Profile picture of the author createyouwealth
      Originally Posted by Richard Odell View Post

      ...and sacrifice a virgin!

      Create a Squidoo page about it?

      You will be on page one of Google in no time (and being investigated by the Fed's at the same time!).
      lol very comical. Don't take it personal every one gets the google slap from time to time.
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      • Profile picture of the author inneraction
        Just wanted to let everyone know that Kieron's suggestion worked beautifully- rewrote the email in my own words, same length, 2 redirect links and now no issues with being marked as spam! Thanks again Kieron!
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
    As to the OP, I'm honestly not sure what the work-around for this solution is, as I've never encountered it.

    Some emails always get marked as SPAM even when they're not - nature of the beast - but if it's a big issue it's worth looking at a work-around (which I can't help you with).

    Hopefully someone else can, though.

    -Dan
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    • Profile picture of the author inneraction
      Originally Posted by Daniel Scott View Post

      As to the OP, I'm honestly not sure what the work-around for this solution is, as I've never encountered it.

      Some emails always get marked as SPAM even when they're not - nature of the beast - but if it's a big issue it's worth looking at a work-around (which I can't help you with).

      Hopefully someone else can, though.

      -Dan
      Appreciate the honest attempt to help
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  • Profile picture of the author Kieron
    Hi Inneraction,

    I have had a number of clients have a similar problem and this may be of assistance to you if I am correct in understanding what you have written about your emailing problems. If I understood you correctly, you are using pre-written emails and marketing materials which were part of the package you bought as an affiliate. If this is correct then your mail may be getting blocked as spam for the following reasons.

    A) The email content which has been pre - written which you are using has been used by many others who have the same offering and has like you been sent out to each users permission based opt-in list as one would expect! All seems fair and reasonable so far...BUT, if the email that you sent is pretty close to the original email then here is the most likely issue.

    The email and its content has been used by various other people and more than likely it has been used by a spammer. If it has been used by a spammer and been flagged as spam by the gmail community then it is fair and understandable that it probably was spam.

    B) If A above is correct you will probably have only changed the send/receive email address to that of your own, you will probably only have changed the link in the email to that of your own money site as you have put it.

    If A+B is true then the email is already listed as spam. Don't forget spammers use throw away email addresses so the sending email address is not of any consequence either way.

    To fix the problem all you need to do is to rewrite the email with your own original content, test it before sending and things should be ok. You don't mention how many links are in the email but keep to less than three, avoid using the FREE in the email as this does cause spam filters to trigger.

    Final note: You should also install statcounter.com on your money sites sales pages as you can use this free analytic's tool to see in real time your traffic. I use this all the time to not only test and track my email campaigns as it provides me with the opportunity of sending out 100 emails and immediately see if people are clicking the link to my site. If I see the expected clicks then I send the complete message to my entire list. I also always setup a special landing page for this test so I know for a 100% fact that the traffic was due to the email.

    Hope this helps and best of luck to you.

    Kieron
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    • Profile picture of the author inneraction
      Originally Posted by Kieron View Post

      Hi Inneraction,

      I have had a number of clients have a similar problem and this may be of assistance to you if I am correct in understanding what you have written about your emailing problems. If I understood you correctly, you are using pre-written emails and marketing materials which were part of the package you bought as an affiliate. If this is correct then your mail may be getting blocked as spam for the following reasons.

      A) The email content which has been pre - written which you are using has been used by many others who have the same offering and has like you been sent out to each users permission based opt-in list as one would expect! All seems fair and reasonable so far...BUT, if the email that you sent is pretty close to the original email then here is the most likely issue.

      The email and its content has been used by various other people and more than likely it has been used by a spammer. If it has been used by a spammer and been flagged as spam by the gmail community then it is fair and understandable that it probably was spam.

      B) If A above is correct you will probably have only changed the send/receive email address to that of your own, you will probably only have changed the link in the email to that of your own money site as you have put it.

      If A+B is true then the email is already listed as spam. Don't forget spammers use throw away email addresses so the sending email address is not of any consequence either way.

      To fix the problem all you need to do is to rewrite the email with your own original content, test it before sending and things should be ok. You don't mention how many links are in the email but keep to less than three, avoid using the FREE in the email as this does cause spam filters to trigger.

      Final note: You should also install statcounter.com on your money sites sales pages as you can use this free analytic's tool to see in real time your traffic. I use this all the time to not only test and track my email campaigns as it provides me with the opportunity of sending out 100 emails and immediately see if people are clicking the link to my site. If I see the expected clicks then I send the complete message to my entire list. I also always setup a special landing page for this test so I know for a 100% fact that the traffic was due to the email.

      Hope this helps and best of luck to you.

      Kieron

      Hi Kieron,

      Thank you for offering some information I can actually use although I know the others are having fun in good spirits and enjoy bowing down to the sun God Google, perhaps while bending over backwards? :p

      You are correct in your A and B comments. In terms of links, I only have 2 and both go to the affiliate site and not my money site since they would have opted in from the money site.

      I will take your advice and use The Best Spinner to rewrite the emails. Didn't know that this would be a problem so I appreciate you pointing it out.

      StatCounter.com looks great! Thanks for that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Quentin
    I just send a link to the webpage and never had any real problem. The more you put in an email the more chances you have of getting it blocked plus had to track.

    But the sacrifices sound a good way to go. Paying money also appeases the gods.

    If all else fails I have heard that setting fire and scrificing your computer solves all the problems

    Q
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    • Profile picture of the author inneraction
      There is a lot of content, so that may be part of the reason. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by inneraction View Post

    Then Google came along and biatch slapped me because I was cloaking my links using Pretty Links (link was www.mywebsitename/whateverIchose- did not use tiny url). Quality score went down and now this idea is dead.
    Okay.

    *The message stated something along the lines about the links in the email not being trustworthy or some iteration of that.
    Okay.

    *The 2 links in the email are within anchor text and do redirect again using pretty link, but they are not cloaked and rather a 307 redirect. www.mysite.com/somethingimakeup
    Okay, so let's recap.

    - You used pretty link and Google didn't like it.
    - You used pretty link again and Google didn't like it.

    What have we learned here?
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  • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
    Originally Posted by inneraction View Post

    After reading tonnes of information, getting bombarded with IM emails, buying programs (thankfully returned most)
    Karma maybe? ...
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