Article Marketing Help Needed - Do NOT Respond

[odonohuej]

Hello,

I have recently tried to incorporate article marketing as a part of my overall marketing strategy. I am currently very successful in other area's and am doing quite well.

However, I would like to diversify my traffic generation strategies, as to not put all of my "eggs in one basket".

I am doing everything that I have read about in Travis Sago's Bum Marketing Methods report, however I am not quite getting the results I had hoped for.

This is what I am currently doing step by step.

1. Keyword Research: Finding a keyword with over 100 search results a month and under 10,000 competing results in google (keyword in quotations).

2. Submitting an article to ezinearticles.com using the following format:
a. Using the long tail keyword FIRST in the article Title.
b. Using the long tail keyword within the first couple of words in the summary.
c. Using the long tail keyword within the first couple of words in the Opening Paragraph.
d. Using the long tail keyword at least once in the article body.
e. Using the long tail keyword within the last couple of words in the article.
f. Using the long tail keyword as the anchor text that points to my site.
g. Using the long tail keyword in the keywords for the article.

Now Here is the problem. None of my articles seem to be getting first place results in the search engine, even though they have less than 10,000 competitors.

I simply cannot seem to get a google ranking with my keywords.

So I am asking how to get first page rankings with my articles. What specific formula do YOU follow to achieve first page results? Where do you get Links to your articles?

Hopefully this post could get answered from some of the people that really know how to article market such as: Steven Wagenheim, Travis Sago, and too many others to name.

Thanks for taking the time out of your busy day to read my reply, and to follow up with a truly amazing answer.

Sincerely,
-Justin

*EDIT*
p.s.- I am currently getting a fairly decent ctr (around 40%), and sales. But I am not getting very many views at all, and would like to multiply my current efforts by 10x simply by gaining a 1st page ranking in google for my keyword.

[Jeremy Kelsall]

How long have your articles been live? Remember, sometimes it takes a bit of time for the search engines to do their thing.

Here are a couple of things that I do to get better rankings with my articles.

1. Always use some type of numbered listing or bullet points
2. Have a clean article structure
3. User other words that revolve around your keyword

The most important thing that I do with my articles though, is force the search engines to take notice of them. In order to do that, I give them a little bit of link love!

So, If I just got involved in a new niche and set up a new site and was starting to submit articles to EzineArticles, i would do the following.

1. Make sure I was submitting my author rss feed to rss aggregators
2. Link back to my EZA article from places like goarticles, squidoo, and ideamarketers.
3. Social Bookmark my articles

Now, even doing all of these things does not guarantee you a number one ranking. This is because you also have to take other factors into consideration such as the strength of your competitors site, your competitions linking strategy, and what the search engines like for that particular niche.

You just have to refine what you are doing down to a science. Article Marketing is a great way to get traffic, but it is almost like pissin in the wind if you don't put your all into it.

jeremy

[odonohuej]

Hello Jeremy,

I am currently structuring most of my articles with bullet points, as I find it easier to write that way.

I have tried social bookmarking my articles, but cannot submit to the big 2 (digg, and propeller) perhaps you could list the most powerful sites that allow this?

I read the other day that you can submit your aouthor Rss feeds to rss directories. Could you please explain how to do this, and list some of the rss aggregators you currently use?

I am trying to break this down to a science, and I am keeping track of my success's and failures, what works and doesn't.

Thank you for your prompt and helpful response.

Respectfully,
-Justin

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Justin,

If you want to shoot me a couple of links, I would be more than glad to help you

[Jeremy Kelsall]

For anyone that is reading though....

Don't worry about the "big" sites like DIGG and PROPELLER, If you can't submit to them, you cant, it's not big deal.

Hell, Zimbio is one of my favorite sites to use....and their links are all NOFOLLOW, but under correct conditions, I am able to increase my rankings consistently by using them.

[Darth Executor]

how many articles did you submit? Also consider increasing the PR of your articles (which is probably easier than your own web site) so that the articles show up first in the SE results. Then people click on them and hopefully follow to your web site. This also benefits people paranoid about google being out to get them since you'll have very few (but high quality, targetted) links to your web site.

[odonohuej]

Hello Jeremy,

I just sent you a pm. Looking forward to getting a reply as you seem very knowledgeable on the subject.

Darth Executor,
I would like to know more about how you propose I should be building the links to my articles? I know that this is a good strategy, but I am unsure of exactly how to do this.

Mainly my income comes from PPC, and other various methods and I am not too experienced when it comes to article marketing or other free methods.

-Justin

[Sean A McAlister]

Post your keyword in the Title

Include your keyword in the opening sentence. Include your keyword in the second sentence.

Ex. Keyword = Southwest Airlines (Hint this one pays big out,,,research it)

Anyway.

Title:
Southwest Airlines the number one carrier for Air Travel.

1st paragraph:
Southwest Airlines was recently voted the number one Carrier for domestic air travel. First class service and low prices help contribute to Southwest Airlines success.


NOw....I have no idea if any of that is true...but you get the point.

If you do not do it here make sure you have your key word in 3 back to back sentences somewhere...and include that as your descriton|teaser for the article.

It works everytime especially for niches with almost zero competition.
DO NOT OVER DO IT though!!!!

Sean

[Jeremy Kelsall]

While that may be a winning combination at some directories...EZA will reject that structure a fair amount of time.

You are lucky to be able to squeeze it in with the first paragraph, somewhere in the middle, and once at the end, let alone 3 consecutive sentences.

Originally Posted by The IM Reporter

Post your keyword in the Title

Include your keyword in the opening sentence. Include your keyword in the second sentence.

Ex. Keyword = Southwest Airlines (Hint this one pays big out,,,research it)

Anyway.

Title:
Southwest Airlines the number one carrier for Air Travel.

1st paragraph:
Southwest Airlines was recently voted the number one Carrier for domestic air travel. First class service and low prices help contribute to Southwest Airlines success.


NOw....I have no idea if any of that is true...but you get the point.

If you do not do it here make sure you have your key word in 3 back to back sentences somewhere...and include that as your descriton|teaser for the article.

It works everytime especially for niches with almost zero competition.
DO NOT OVER DO IT though!!!!

Sean

[odonohuej]

Hello Sean,

I am currently using the keyword in the title, and in the first few words of the opening paragraph.

However, If i try to submit an article with back to back keywords in sentences, it has gotten rejected due to keyword stuffing.

Also, I keep LSI in mind when writing the articles, and use keywords that are closely related.

The articles are only a week old or so, but in my past experiences, the articles have shot to page one of google within a week, and then were gone by the next week.

For example I got a number one position on google for the phrase "buy #keyword#" in a matter of 2 days after my article was accepted, but the ranking dropped quickly to position #200 within one weeks time.

So I guess my burning question is how to get your article to the first page of google, and keep it their over a long period of time.

I have read many reports, and scoured the internet for all of the information I could find, but have not yet found any formula that is truly successful at this.

-Justin

[Sean A McAlister]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

While that may be a winning combination at some directories...EZA will reject that structure a fair amount of time.

You are lucky to be able to squeeze it in with the first paragraph, somewhere in the middle, and once at the end, let alone 3 consecutive sentences.

Really? I have never had a problem.

As long as you do not keyword stuff the whole article. The key is that when you do it in three consecutive sentences that you sprinkle from there.

I have never had an issue with EZA doing this

Sean

[Jeremy Kelsall]

The answer is simple....

Take a look at some of the articles that are sticking! I can assure you that it is not simply an article with no PR, no backlinks, and no love.

The articles that stick are the ones that are nurtured and executed with a plan for the article to stick.

Originally Posted by odonohuej

Hello Sean,

I am currently using the keyword in the title, and in the first few words of the opening paragraph.

However, If i try to submit an article with back to back keywords in sentences, it has gotten rejected due to keyword stuffing.

Also, I keep LSI in mind when writing the articles, and use keywords that are closely related.

The articles are only a week old or so, but in my past experiences, the articles have shot to page one of google within a week, and then were gone by the next week.

For example I got a number one position on google for the phrase "buy #keyword#" in a matter of 2 days after my article was accepted, but the ranking dropped quickly to position #200 within one weeks time.

So I guess my burning question is how to get your article to the first page of google, and keep it their over a long period of time.

I have read many reports, and scoured the internet for all of the information I could find, but have not yet found any formula that is truly successful at this.

-Justin

[Sean A McAlister]

Here is a case in point. This article just got published yesterday. I practice what I preach.

Now search for the keyword "Article Marketing Strategies"

I am on the first page in less than 24 hours.


http://ezinearticles.com/?Article-Ma...lts&id=1600706

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Well, I'll be damned!

I would have gotten a firm smack on the wrist for doing that. lol

However, I did not see your article listed on the first page unless you mean to search with the quotation marks.

Originally Posted by The IM Reporter

Here is a case in point. This article just got published yesterday. I practice what I preach.

Now search for the keyword "Article Marketing Strategies"

I am on the first page in less than 24 hours.


Article Marketing Strategies That Drive Results

[Sean A McAlister]

Give it time....

And it is a targeted search...based off of specific keyword research.

That keyword is seached x times in "" marks. That is what I am targeting.
And if you check my visitor stats at my blog you will see how many visitors I received in the last 24 hours for that one keyword.

I do not care if it is on the first page, per se, for a broad search.

[odonohuej]

Hello Sean,

I see that your article was indeed accepted.

That is weird because I have tried submitting articles like that and have been rejected every time.

Also I only see 1st page results when searched in quotations, but i'm sure given time it will jump to 1st page without quotations. I was never doubting what you said, just stating that when I try that, my article is not accepted.

Perhaps I just need a step by step on how to build links to my articles using my desired anchor text to help in the SERPS.


Jeremy,

How do I check to see where certain articles are getting their links from? I know their is a way to search google and yahoo to see which sites are linking, I just do not remember what it is.

[Jeremy Kelsall]

I completely agree with you.

I'll take the targeted traffic any day of the week. Looks like you wrote a "winner" there! Congrats man!

Jeremy

Originally Posted by The IM Reporter

Give it time....

And it is a targeted search...based off of specific keyword research.

That keyword is seached x times in "" marks. That is what I am targeting.
And if you check my visitor stats at my blog you will see how many visitors I received in the last 24 hours for that one keyword.

I do not care if it is on the first page, per se, for a broad search.

[Jeremy Kelsall]

You can use Yahoo Explorer by just going to yahoo and searching in this format link:http//www.ezinearticles.com/blahblahblah

Originally Posted by odonohuej

Hello Sean,

I see that your article was indeed accepted.

That is weird because I have tried submitting articles like that and have been rejected every time.

Also I only see 1st page results when searched in quotations, but i'm sure given time it will jump to 1st page without quotations. I was never doubting what you said, just stating that when I try that, my article is not accepted.

Perhaps I just need a step by step on how to build links to my articles using my desired anchor text to help in the SERPS.


Jeremy,

How do I check to see where certain articles are getting their links from? I know their is a way to search google and yahoo to see which sites are linking, I just do not remember what it is.

[odonohuej]

Jeremy,

Will that display ONLY links that point to the specific article on EZA, or all links that point to the main Ezinearticles.com site?

[Jeremy Kelsall]

It should only give the pages that link to that specific URL of the article you are analyzing.

Originally Posted by odonohuej

Jeremy,

Will that display ONLY links that point to the specific article on EZA, or all links that point to the main Ezinearticles.com site?

[John Piteo]

Hi Justin,

Often your articles will come back to the first page in a few days to a few weeks after they disappear. Be careful not to overstuff your articles with too many keywords. Instead work more on the LSI. Check some of the pages on the first page of Google's results for keyword count and also to find more LSI keywords.

Jeremy's also right about Zimbio. It's a great place to submit your articles. I don't usually tell people about it, because I consider it one of my secrets that I reveal in my book. You can submit articles directly to them just like at ezine articles. They get over 10 million global visitors per month and 5.8 million of those are from the U.S. They also have a page rank of 6 and articles submitted there often show up on the first page of the Goog.

John P

[Sean A McAlister]

Originally Posted by odonohuej

Hello Sean,

I see that your article was indeed accepted.

That is weird because I have tried submitting articles like that and have been rejected every time.

Also I only see 1st page results when searched in quotations, but i'm sure given time it will jump to 1st page without quotations. I was never doubting what you said, just stating that when I try that, my article is not accepted.

Perhaps I just need a step by step on how to build links to my articles using my desired anchor text to help in the SERPS.


Jeremy,

How do I check to see where certain articles are getting their links from? I know their is a way to search google and yahoo to see which sites are linking, I just do not remember what it is.

Justin,

It is not weird...its technique.

Like I said...you do it for three sentences and then back off. Keep it to 2% density.

I like to do it the first paragraph but it does not have to be in the first paragraph...as long as it is somewhere...AND That somewhere is what you need to use for the 'Description" section. This is what gives you ranking.

Sean

[odonohuej]

Hello Jeremy,

Thanks for the info on how to check a websites links.

Hello John P,

I appreciate your valuable feedback.

I guess I will have to start submitting my articles to zimbio as well.

[Steven Wagenheim]

I would have chimed in on this discussion, but my theories on article
writing and marketing are so radical from everybody else's that it's almost
pointless.

Justin, you're getting some really good advice, but it's not the only way to
go about this. However, in order not to totally confuse you, I'll just leave it
at that. You should see decent results following the advice that you've been
given.

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Check zimbio out and see how it works before you do anything with it.

Do your keyword research on your niches and see if they pop up in the results at all...if they do, they are worth looking into.

Originally Posted by odonohuej

Hello Jeremy,

Thanks for the info on how to check a websites links.

Hello John P,

I appreciate your valuable feedback.

I guess I will have to start submitting my articles to zimbio as well.

[odonohuej]

Hello Sean,

I see what you mean. I am currently using the keyword 3 to 4 times in the article already. However, I just spread them evenly throughout the article.

So if I used them consecutively in 3 sentences, and then did not use them again, it would have the same keyword density as if i spread them out evenly throughout the article.

I will try this with my next batch of articles.

Thanks,
-Justin

[Sean A McAlister]

Originally Posted by odonohuej

Hello Sean,

I see what you mean. I am currently using the keyword 3 to 4 times in the article already. However, I just spread them evenly throughout the article.

So if I used them consecutively in 3 sentences, and then did not use them again, it would have the same keyword density as if i spread them out evenly throughout the article.

I will try this with my next batch of articles.

Thanks,
-Justin

Yesss.....or close to that. And depending on the length of your article you can use them more. It is when you keep using them over and over and are actually "stuffing the article"//

Of course Mr Steven is the TRUE Pro....I wish he would offered a bit more.
By the way....make sure your spelling and grammar is right. This little exercise showed me that the article I used for my illustration is riddled with errors. Yawzizies.....

By the way Jermey...It's on page 3 right now for the broad search along with a couple other of my thingamajingies She's a creepin her way up.

Sean

[John Piteo]

That's funny, Justin edited the subject line to say, "do not respond" I wonder if we overwhelmed him with our quick blast of responses. LOL

John P

[odonohuej]

I know what you mean sean.

I have gained major wisdom from the posts of Mr. Steven Wagenheim, and always found his posts to be super informative.

But I guess if your strategy varies greatly from that which you are looking for, it can throw you down a whole new path, and leave you distracted from your original goal.

However, that can sometimes be a good thing.

What do you find to be a good keyword density without getting the article rejected? 2% 3% or more?

[Jeremy Kelsall]

You do article marketing?

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

I would have chimed in on this discussion, but my theories on article
writing and marketing are so radical from everybody else's that it's almost
pointless.

Justin, you're getting some really good advice, but it's not the only way to
go about this. However, in order not to totally confuse you, I'll just leave it
at that. You should see decent results following the advice that you've been
given.

[odonohuej]

Hello John,

I actually did this to try to encourage more responses. A little something I learned from Mr. Frank Kern and the likes.

Reverse pyshcology can be a very powerful thing.

I actually would like as many responses as possible.

So far I am quite pleased with both the number and the quality of the responses.

However, I am a firm believer that you can never learn to much, as long as what you are learning does not distract you away from your end goal.

[Sean A McAlister]

Originally Posted by John Piteo

That's funny, Justin edited the subject line to say, "do not respond" I wonder if we overwhelmed him with our quick blast of responses. LOL

John P

That's funny you say that...because that is what I was wondering

Originally Posted by odonohuej

I know what you mean sean.

I have gained major wisdom from the posts of Mr. Steven Wagenheim, and always found his posts to be super informative.

But I guess if your strategy varies greatly from that which you are looking for, it can throw you down a whole new path, and leave you distracted from your original goal.

However, that can sometimes be a good thing.

What do you find to be a good keyword density without getting the article rejected? 2% 3% or more?

About 3%..is what I go with. I have never really tested the waters and pushed the envelope....that's not to say that I haven't slammed out some articles that have gotten rejected.

The good news is...if your article gets rejected you can quickly edit it take a few of the keywords out and replace them with relative keywords and resubmit. EZA is usually pretty good about getting them back online within 24 hours...."Usually"

[odonohuej]

Hello Sean,

I have to say that I am being pretty conservative with the keyword density for these articles.

I have had many articles rejected in the past, and never gained platinum status. However, with this go around I started a new account and I am shooting for platinum status. I know that you cannot make a single mistake with your first 10 article submissions, so I am being pretty conservative right now.

But after I reach platinum status, I can add a few more keywords without the fear of not reaching it. Maybe I am just putting to much emphasis on the platinum status, but it is always something that I have strived to achieve. I feel it helps to build more credibility.

[Sean A McAlister]

Originally Posted by odonohuej

Hello Sean,

I have to say that I am being pretty conservative with the keyword density for these articles.

I have had many articles rejected in the past, and never gained platinum status. However, with this go around I started a new account and I am shooting for platinum status. I know that you cannot make a single mistake with your first 10 article submissions, so I am being pretty conservative right now.

But after I reach platinum status, I can add a few more keywords without the fear of not reaching it. Maybe I am just putting to much emphasis on the platinum status, but it is always something that I have strived to achieve. I feel it helps to build more credibility.

That is a good strategy, 10 articles is not much and if you stay conservative then you will have no problems. The main thing is to hang in there, keep testing, and stay positive.

I wish you the best of luck!
Sean

[Steven Wagenheim]

Originally Posted by The IM Reporter

Of course Mr Steven is the TRUE Pro....I wish he would offered a bit more.
Sean

I'm actually being interviewed over Skype tomorrow by our very own
John Ritz. He says it's only going to be a half hour but if I start talking
anything like how I write, that's 60 minutes shot to hell for sure.

It's going to be part of his training course that he's got going on right now.
The whole thing will be my take on article writing and marketing A- Z.

Should be interesting.

[Jared Alberghini]

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

I'm actually being interviewed over Skype tomorrow by our very own
John Ritz. He says it's only going to be a half hour but if I start talking
anything like how I write, that's 60 minutes shot to hell for sure.

It's going to be part of his training course that he's got going on right now.
The whole thing will be my take on article writing and marketing A- Z.

Should be interesting.

I'm personally looking forward to hearing this interview... will it be available to us warriors Steven?

[cloudchaser22]

Hey guys, I was just wondering for this topic - out of these 2, which Keyword Tool do you guys prefer using and think is more effective when finding keywords: Google Keyword Tool or SEO Book Keyword Suggestion Tool? if Jeremy Kelsall, "IM Reporter", or "odonohuej" or any others can answer this question that would be awesome.

[Sean A McAlister]

Originally Posted by cloudchaser22

Hey guys, I was just wondering for this topic - out of these 2, which Keyword Tool do you guys prefer using and think is more effective when finding keywords: Google Keyword Tool or SEO Book Keyword Suggestion Tool? if Jeremy Kelsall, "IM Reporter", or "odonohuej" or any others can answer this question that would be awesome.

none of those....I use Keyword Elite.

check my sig--PLR ..near bottom page

[flnz400]

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

I would have chimed in on this discussion, but my theories on article
writing and marketing are so radical from everybody else's that it's almost
pointless.

Justin, you're getting some really good advice, but it's not the only way to
go about this. However, in order not to totally confuse you, I'll just leave it
at that. You should see decent results following the advice that you've been
given.

How are they so different? I'm interested in different approaches having never been an AM, and am curious about your take Steven.

Sorry to hijack...new thread???

[Steven Wagenheim]

Originally Posted by webdesignhq

I'm personally looking forward to hearing this interview... will it be available to us warriors Steven?

Unfortunately, the interview, which I am doing today at 2 PM, is only
available to members of his coaching program.

[Steven Wagenheim]

Originally Posted by flnz400

How are they so different? I'm interested in different approaches having never been an AM, and am curious about your take Steven.

Sorry to hijack...new thread???

Let's just say that I don't follow some of the standard ways that people
write articles.

For example, keyword density? What's that?

I write for people, not SEs, and to get into that here would take me a year
and a day and right now I have to go pick up my daughter from college.
She's coming home for the weekend.

[odonohuej]

Originally Posted by cloudchaser22

Hey guys, I was just wondering for this topic - out of these 2, which Keyword Tool do you guys prefer using and think is more effective when finding keywords: Google Keyword Tool or SEO Book Keyword Suggestion Tool? if Jeremy Kelsall, "IM Reporter", or "odonohuej" or any others can answer this question that would be awesome.

Hello Cloudchaser22,

I started off using googles free keyword suggestion tool. Way back before they gave you the actual number of searches.

Since then, I have re-invested into my business, and I currently use micro niche finder. I find that it can pick up some pretty low competition keywords that neither the google keyword tool, nor SEO book's tool can.

It has worked wonders for me. Although sometimes it can take a little more time than I would like.

It is also a little pricey, but well worth it if you spend a lot of time doing keyword research. It is a good way to automate your keyword research. If you have the money to re-invest in your business, I would say buy it.

You can find it by clicking on the link below
Micro Niche Finder. <-- NOT AN AFFILIATE LINK

Hope this helps,
-Justin

[odonohuej]

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Let's just say that I don't follow some of the standard ways that people
write articles.

For example, keyword density? What's that?

I write for people, not SEs, and to get into that here would take me a year
and a day and right now I have to go pick up my daughter from college.
She's coming home for the weekend.

Hello Steven,

I know what you mean. I always, always, always, write my article with the reader in mind.

It doesn't do you any good to have your article in position #1 on google if your article isn't interesting and engaging, and encourages the reader to click through and buy.

I know alot of people forget this about article marketing, but it is probably the most important part about it.

[odonohuej]

Hello Abel,

Do not be confused, the whole point of the do not respond was to build curiousity, get people into the thread, and then hopefully get them to respond once they read my post.

Originally Posted by Abel1337

Do not respond?!? I am a little confused..

[Steven Wagenheim]

Well, I just recently finished my 30 minutes (turned into an hour) interview
with John Ritz. I really had a blast. He is so easy to talk to.

I hope his folks get something out of it.

I found it interesting that he actually does a lot of the same things with his
articles that I do.

So maybe I'm not so different after all.

[odonohuej]

Hello Everyone,

Thanks for all of your replies and advice.

I have began to implement alot of what I have learned in this thread. I am happy to report that one of my articles is now on page #5 for it's keyword.

I know that page #5 will probably get no traffic, but if I keep working at it, it should be on page #1 shortly.

I will keep everyone posted with my results.