Your Thoughts on HubPages...

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Hey everyone,

I was just wondering what your thoughts on HubPages is? I know that you can make far more money using other IM strategies but I'm just curious...

How many articles have you written and how much have you made (per day, month, year, etc.).

Thanks in advance!
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  • Profile picture of the author ~kev~
    Your Thoughts on HubPages...
    My opinion - its run by a bunch of heavy handed admins that are quick to disable your account for the slightest rule violation. And then their slow to review and restore your page once the problem has been fixed.

    I created a hubpage, imported an RSS feed, which put 1 too many backlinks on my page. Within minutes the page was disabled. I fixed the problem as soon as I was notified of the issue. And then it was about a week later before the page was restored.

    They give you the option to import an rss feed. But if you do, it puts too many backlinks on your page,,, so why is the option available there to start with?

    If you feel that you have to have a hubpage, create one, spend a few minutes on it, and be done with it. But do not put a lot of time or effort into it - because it could be removed real quick.
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      If they are anything like similar sites, they are run by probably no more than a small group of people (2? 3? 4?)....yet, by virtue of what they do, they are charged with HUGE responsibility to tailor their platform to best meet the needs of 100,000+ users, that all have varying ideas and opinions.

      It's a monumental task to run a site like that. Hiring someone else brings along PROs and CONs which is why, honestly, I think the best employees (had they had to hire anyone) would be the leading contributors on the site...lol

      "My opinion - its run by a bunch of heavy handed admins that are quick to disable your account for the slightest rule violation."

      I know that they may be short staffed for the work load, and they may have a ton of people trying to game the system, however, this goes back to fundamental customer service. Every user/customer, IMHO, deserves feedback, and/or real-life, non-generic responses to their emails. If they have to hire someone or outsource, so be it. If people aren't treated right, they WILL leave a site and never come back.

      ....they could spend years building a multi-million online business, but, one unhappy customer, with the power of social media, could tarnish that reputation in an instant (or begin a thread on the most popular IM forum online...lol)

      Originally Posted by ~kev~ View Post

      My opinion - its run by a bunch of heavy handed admins that are quick to disable your account for the slightest rule violation. And then their slow to review and restore your page once the problem has been fixed.

      I created a hubpage, imported an RSS feed, which put 1 too many backlinks on my page. Within minutes the page was disabled. I fixed the problem as soon as I was notified of the issue. And then it was about a week later before the page was restored.

      They give you the option to import an rss feed. But if you do, it puts too many backlinks on your page,,, so why is the option available there to start with?

      If you feel that you have to have a hubpage, create one, spend a few minutes on it, and be done with it. But do not put a lot of time or effort into it - because it could be removed real quick.
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    • Profile picture of the author ribas4
      Originally Posted by ~kev~ View Post

      My opinion - its run by a bunch of heavy handed admins that are quick to disable your account for the slightest rule violation. And then their slow to review and restore your page once the problem has been fixed.

      I created a hubpage, imported an RSS feed, which put 1 too many backlinks on my page. Within minutes the page was disabled. I fixed the problem as soon as I was notified of the issue. And then it was about a week later before the page was restored.

      They give you the option to import an rss feed. But if you do, it puts too many backlinks on your page,,, so why is the option available there to start with?

      If you feel that you have to have a hubpage, create one, spend a few minutes on it, and be done with it. But do not put a lot of time or effort into it - because it could be removed real quick.
      thanks for your opinion, i'll practice for this..last time I have good experience with hubpages...
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  • Profile picture of the author JMoney172
    I'm using HubPages as placeholders for a couple of my domains (301 redirects) until I have time to write enough content to start the sites up. I have a bunch of traffic to them (not from the domains), more than some of my other sites (with NO backlinks, articles, etc. to the HubPages). Although I have Amazon widgets on them I have no revenue as of yet. YMMV
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  • Profile picture of the author Sara Young
    I've had very good experience with hubpages. It's true that they are strict about the content, but it does rank well and brings traffic that way.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnarmicle
    Good for Backlinks...nothing else
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  • Profile picture of the author Tonio Smith
    Hub pages have been ancient history for quite a while now a least a year and a half. my recommendation is to focus on fan pages at Facebook.com

    Tonio Smith
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  • Profile picture of the author John Wood
    I use them mainly for back links these days. As Kev says it is very easy to violate one of the many rules they have in place these days and if your hub is deemed overly promotional it gets blacklisted quickly.
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  • Profile picture of the author ~kev~
    As with any page that you do not host yourself, do not put a lot of time or effort into it. If your going to invest 2, 3 or 4 hours on something, put that time into your own sites or into one of your other projects.

    Lets say that you open 2, 3 or 4 hubpages. Over the next month you invest 6, 8, 10+ hours developing those pages - and then their removed. Either hubpages is closed, their bought out and closed, the admins feel your pages are spam, you break a rule,,,,, whatever the reason may be. That is a lot of time that could have been used on other projects, and now its lost.

    The same thing goes for squidoo,,,, or any other site that does not belong to you.

    If you are going to invest time into something, invest that time in yourself.
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      kev,

      Whether you have your own blog, or you host your content on a site like HubPages, there will be Pros- and Cons-. You make a strong case, however, there is a reason why sites like HubPages are so popular:

      1) Writers can easily achieve pre-established search engine authority that may be difficult (for some) to achieve on their own. This is achieved by virtue of the collective effort of 100,000+ users all providing content. Of course, when you have so many varied users, you also will encounter alot of other issues (not necessarily 'problems' that need to be addressed, such as quality of content.

      2) Of course, you relinquish a % of revenue share, when you could get 100% revenue from your own site. Sites like HubPages ultimately do what they can to maximize YOUR revenue, because it is ultimately in their own best interest to maximize everyone's revenue.

      3) They provide numerous methods for monetization. Of course, you can do this with your own site....but, then, again, we go back to the search engine authority.

      Now, we can get into issues of how sites can/could improve by addressing certain elements of functionality and improving offerings.

      Have you visited Warrior Forum when it went 'down'. This website, itself, is generally reliable, however, there have been times when it has just gone down, leaving those (who relied on the income, which you shouldn't do, but that's another thread altogether) with entire days of lost profits. The same can occur if you have hosting/domain issues. Anything online is subject to that.

      The BEST approach, IMHO, is to use a site like HubPages to catapult and reinforce your own website and personal brand, off of it's tremendous pre-established search engine authority. I recommend that people use it to easily suck in traffic, and monetize every avenue, the minute someone lands on your Hub (or Lens, or Article, or Barrel, etc). Their revenue share is a given, but structure your articles so you can divert people to your own monetized website. Place Adsense, Chitika, Amazon, CJ, Linkshare, Clickbank product, etc.....

      Web 2.0 sites, like HubPages are serious magnets, especially if your articles have aged and matured alongside the growth of the site. To deny or neglect that, and focus JUST on your own site is unwise (is that a word?) IMHO.

      Originally Posted by ~kev~ View Post

      As with any page that you do not host yourself, do not put a lot of time or effort into it. If your going to invest 2, 3 or 4 hours on something, put that time into your own sites or into one of your other projects.

      Lets say that you open 2, 3 or 4 hubpages. Over the next month you invest 6, 8, 10+ hours developing those pages - and then their removed. Either hubpages is closed, their bought out and closed, the admins feel your pages are spam, you break a rule,,,,, whatever the reason may be. That is a lot of time that could have been used on other projects, and now its lost.

      The same thing goes for squidoo,,,, or any other site that does not belong to you.

      If you are going to invest time into something, invest that time in yourself.
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      • Profile picture of the author ~kev~
        Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

        kev,

        Whether you have your own blog, or you host your content on a site like HubPages, there will be Pros- and Cons-.
        Yep, we can debate stuff like that all day long,

        wordpress.com vs blogger
        self hosted or go the wordpress.com or blogger route
        hubpages vs squidoo
        forums vs blogs
        article marketing vs video marketing

        In the end, the best answer is the one that solves the problem and gives the best result for a certain situation.

        I have seen some well developed hub pages - which looked like the owner spent hours working on it. But I just dont see it. This is jut my opinion, and I do not expect everyone to agree - but if I'am going to invest a lot of time in a project, its going to be for my own sites. I can not see spending 3 or 4 hours making a hub page, when I have articles to write for my own sites. But that is just me.

        Hubpages can give you a couple of good backlinks, but they also have rules on how many backlinks you can put on your page. I found out by accident that just 1 too many links can get your page disabled.

        If you want to create a hub page - go ahead and do it. I just dont think that a lot of time should be invested into it.
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      "If you are going to invest time into something, invest that time in yourself."

      If you do it in the right way, your investing in Web 2.0 sites CAN be investing in yourself significantly.

      Originally Posted by ~kev~ View Post

      As with any page that you do not host yourself, do not put a lot of time or effort into it. If your going to invest 2, 3 or 4 hours on something, put that time into your own sites or into one of your other projects.

      Lets say that you open 2, 3 or 4 hubpages. Over the next month you invest 6, 8, 10+ hours developing those pages - and then their removed. Either hubpages is closed, their bought out and closed, the admins feel your pages are spam, you break a rule,,,,, whatever the reason may be. That is a lot of time that could have been used on other projects, and now its lost.

      The same thing goes for squidoo,,,, or any other site that does not belong to you.

      If you are going to invest time into something, invest that time in yourself.
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    • Profile picture of the author vishvesh
      HubPages are best for Money Sites when doing the Link Wheels!
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  • Profile picture of the author entrepreneurjay
    Hubpages is great I have 90 hubs written. I make sales through my prewritten hubs quite often. You can monetize your hubs like 4 different ways adsense, affiliate ads, Amazon, Kontera. Plus they rank very well in the search engines just do your keyword research.

    Way better than Squidoo in my opinion!
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  • Profile picture of the author tyroneshum
    I haven't posted much onto Hubpages so far but I think it's still good for having your article easily indexed by Google and thus, it would be a possibility for you to drive traffic onto your website as you include your links there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mo Muller
    I've had an average experience with hubpages. In my experience they do work but I would say that different topic area's get a lot more exposure than others.
    PM for those that worked for me. Mo
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  • Profile picture of the author lacraiger
    they publish your spam so they can get adsense clicks. don't you notice that they place 5-6 adsense blocks on each page?
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Originally Posted by lacraiger View Post

      they publish your spam so they can get adsense clicks. don't you notice that they place 5-6 adsense blocks on each page?
      Just because they have 5-6 adsense blocks doesn't necessarily mean that they just want to publish garbage and spam....in fact, it is actually in the best interest of the site to control for quality and NOT post garbage...unfortunately, like I said, with sites like HubPages, you oftetimes find a very small group of individuals who run the entire show.

      They do want adsense clicks, and they do want to maximize revenue, but, that means nothing...and, Google won't look upon they favorably and they won't maintain search engine authority if they just allow any garbage to posted there....
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  • Profile picture of the author DrGUID
    Hubpages is wonderful. x3xsolxdierx3x and I will argue endlessly about whether InfoBarrel or Hubpages is the best web 2.0 site, but I am very happy with my Hubpages performance. I have 160 hubs now, and it's been enormously beneficial to try new stuff out there.

    The nice thing about Hubpages is that they have perfected some great techniques for kicking off wasters using article rewriting or just putting up yet more forex/****/clickbank spam etc. Beneath the cute web design is actually some very impressive SEO stuff, and it is something the InfoBarrels and other wannabies of this world need to figure out.

    Hubpages is run fairly strictly and it's quite women orientated in places, but the nice offshoot of this is that it gets spectacular search engine placement for certain niches. I prefer it to InfoBarrel where a human looks at your articles before they're published. I've never had an article pulled so if you stick to honest writing you'll be OK.

    BTW there are people on Hubpages pulling in well over $1000 a month which is a nice amount of recurring revenue!
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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      Oh, boy, we have to just agree to disagree here, DrGUID If nothing else, this thread could provide some entertainment value...lol...

      With that said:

      I'll respond in full when I wake up.

      Originally Posted by DrGUID View Post

      Hubpages is wonderful. x3xsolxdierx3x and I will argue endlessly about whether InfoBarrel or Hubpages is the best web 2.0 site, but I am very happy with my Hubpages performance. I have 160 hubs now, and it's been enormously beneficial to try new stuff out there.

      The nice thing about Hubpages is that they have perfected some great techniques for kicking off wasters using article rewriting or just putting up yet more forex/****/clickbank spam etc. Beneath the cute web design is actually some very impressive SEO stuff, and it is something the InfoBarrels and other wannabies of this world need to figure out.

      Hubpages is run fairly strictly and it's quite women orientated in places, but the nice offshoot of this is that it gets spectacular search engine placement for certain niches. I prefer it to InfoBarrel where a human looks at your articles before they're published. I've never had an article pulled so if you stick to honest writing you'll be OK.

      BTW there are people on Hubpages pulling in well over $1000 a month which is a nice amount of recurring revenue!
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Sanchez
    You should use is as part of your back-linking network. Other than that I think you really need to be lucky to use it as your focus for marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author MervikHaums
    Originally Posted by iifarmerii View Post

    Hey everyone,

    I was just wondering what your thoughts on HubPages is? I know that you can make far more money using other IM strategies but I'm just curious...

    How many articles have you written and how much have you made (per day, month, year, etc.).

    Thanks in advance!
    For me hub pages are just for marketing my services. But yeah I might made a 20-30 bucks there. Its not important for me. I try to build links there and try to spread the services.
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