Can I use duplicate content from ezines?

[elitesalesgroup]

Hi!

I was wondering how using ezine articles that other people wrote would affect my ranking. What if I grabbed 20 different articles about my niche and putting them on a site. I already have 5 that I I've written. I'm thinking about targeting adsense not selling any product.

Would this work? Would this hurt my ranking or increase it?


Thanks in advance!

Ann

[mekap04]

I think you should write fresh content. If you do want to use free articles from ezines, I would reword it to make it look like you wrote it. I have done that on one of my adsense sites and it works. As far as being penalized for it, I dont think so if its unique and you have changed the sentence structure.

[andrewsmith121]

Duplicating contents is of no use. You can used the same contents but, have to make sure that the contents doesn't look same. You have to change the sentence structure and try. It will definitely work

[markanthony04]

I take articles and re-write them so I don't flout the Google rules on copy content. However, this is not as easy as it looks and sometimes it can take as long as writing an aticle from scratch!

I am starting from today (it's a promise) to write a new article fresh and with my own fair hands and I think in the long run I will benefit hugely from it.

i would be careful about using any duplicate content....

[elitesalesgroup]

What about a site like this?

coloncancer.bz

I found it because the owner actually has one of my articles on his site.

When I went through the site, the ads are prominent on the top, but they look like links. The actual content ( un original articles ) are at the bottom.

I found the site on Google, it's an article diretory. I guess what I'm asking is--if I were to create an article directory for my niche would I get penalized for it.

[Marie Pugh]

Seriously - there will always be a ton of debate about this. I don't believe in the duplicate content myth (just my opinion!). I have written a lot of articles for people over the past few months, and when doing research - there are sometimes 5 or 6 sites on the first page of google - all with the same articles.

And, if it was a problem - how would news sites and other article directories get good rankings?

I checked out that site you mentioned - and it actually looks quite good - and might work good having the ads placed where they are. Give it a try!

Marie

[Glenn Leader]

There has been a lot of debate over the years about the dup content
penalty. This only refers to content on the same site, not the same
articles on multiple sites. The penalty from Google is that subsequent
copies of the same article on the same site don't rank very well, if at all.

WRT editing articles from article sites. DON'T DO IT. You'll be in breach
of the T&C of the site you copied the articles from, and you could get
closed down by your host if the author complains to them. If you want
to make them unique, which IS a good idea, why not write an intro and
an outro for each article? This will also be a lot faster than rewriting
the articles 'illegally'.

HTH

Glenn

[PRandContent]

Best thing you could do is rewrite the articles. Treat them like PLR - they may be good source of infos but you absolutely need to rewrite them in order to avoid the Google slap.

[adamv]

C'mon people!!!!

Re-writing a single article is plagerism. It's okay to use multiple articles as sources to get ideas for your own articles but you can't simply take one persons article and rewrite it.

It's fine to use the article as is, if you leave the authors resource box intact. If you're worried about duplicate content you could add an introductory paragraph to your page and then put the article in (unchanged with resource box).

I can't believe that several people here advocate rewriting someones article so you can use it to avoid duplicate content. If you use someone else's article give them credit. If not, write your own without plagerising.

[Glenn Leader]

Originally Posted by adamv

C'mon people!!!!

Re-writing a single article is plagerism. It's okay to use multiple articles as sources to get ideas for your own articles but you can't simply take one persons article and rewrite it.

It's fine to use the article as is, if you leave the authors resource box intact. If you're worried about duplicate content you could add an introductory paragraph to your page and then put the article in (unchanged with resource box).

I can't believe that several people here advocate rewriting someones article so you can use it to avoid duplicate content. If you use someone else's article give them credit. If not, write your own without plagerising.

Right on!

Ah, just discovered I have to write more than 10 characters before I can post.

[blokh]

Originally Posted by mekap04

I think you should write fresh content. If you do want to use free articles from ezines, I would reword it to make it look like you wrote it. I have done that on one of my adsense sites and it works. As far as being penalized for it, I dont think so if its unique and you have changed the sentence structure.

There have been lot of seriousness for Duplicate Content and it all boils down to one thing -

Either write fresh content yourself, or get it written by professionals.

I don't want to post a link here but look up WebWritersPro.com it is a service I am willing to share with a limited amount of members.

P.S. There is a difference between a Cab and a Car Pool ... I am offering this site as a Car Pool, while I am using this system and have spent thousands on it, might as well, share it with other needful members.

[Glenn Leader]

Originally Posted by blokh

There have been lot of seriousness for Duplicate Content and it all boils down to one thing -

Either write fresh content yourself, or get it written by professionals.

I don't want to post a link here but look up WebWritersPro.com it is a service I am willing to share with a limited amount of members.

P.S. There is a difference between a Cab and a Car Pool ... I am offering this site as a Car Pool, while I am using this system and have spent thousands on it, might as well, share it with other needful members.

It doesn't boil down to one thing at all. Having unique well written keyword rich
content will help a great deal to get good ranking, but using other peoples articles
INTACT can, and does work! I know this from personal experience.

Good articles, unique or not, are only part of the game. you also need to do
onsite and offsite SEO, and a few other things to get indexed and listed.

HTH

Glenn

[ragnartm]

Another good idea is to simply read the articles and pick up the actually useful parts and then write a few articles that only has the quality info from all the other articles, would do well with any readers to make them come back/subscribe etc.

[budfox]

Some of these replies are tantamount to telling you to go stick up a liquor store, while others incorrectly report that reprinting articles from directories should never be done.

Folks, the whole reason article directories exist is so you can take those articles and publish them for content! If you couldn't do that there would be no point to article directories.

Five original articles plus a handful of reprinted ones from directories sounds like a nice little info-site to me. You'll get credit for the five pages of original content and rank accordingly. The reprinted articles will affect your rankings as if they weren't there.

At least that's the way it is supposed to be. The reality is, however, that I have about 10 little info-sites like this in small niches and the ones with all original content rank well while the ones with a few pages of original content plus some reprinted articles are buried in the SERPs.

[Kay King]

There are some really bad answers in this thread.

Duplicate content is not something to worry about when starting article marketing.....PERIOD. It's been explained here again and again but people want to believe there is some huge problem from the getgo - and there isn't.

YES - you can use articles from an article directory - AS LONG AS YOU INCLUDE THE AUTHOR BIO WITH AN ACTIVE LINK. When I submit an article, I love it when other sites pick it up and use it - more exposure for my site.

NO - you cannot just take someone's article and rewrite it and call it your own - that's plagiarism. The idea that you can just take what you want and rearrange it is not acceptable - those are NOT PLR articles and you can't arbitrarily decide to use them as such.

A site with a mix of lots of unique content plus some quality articles from article directories is perfectly acceptable as long as you give proper credit for the articles.

You get a good article - and the author gets a decent new link to his site - it's a win win and I've done it for years.

kay

[Marie Pugh]

From what I understood - the OP was planning on pulling the article from the article directory site - with the bio box intact - like the site that had used hers.

I agree that taking articles that are on article sites and simply rewording them is plagiarism - articles on those sites should only be used to get ideas for writing your own articles.

But - if she meant to just use an article as is, with the bio box - then I really don't see that there should be any concern.

[adamv]

Originally Posted by Marie Pugh

From what I understood - the OP was planning on pulling the article from the article directory site - with the bio box intact - like the site that had used hers.

I agree that taking articles that are on article sites and simply rewording them is plagiarism - articles on those sites should only be used to get ideas for writing your own articles.

But - if she meant to just use an article as is, with the bio box - then I really don't see that there should be any concern.

I didn't see anything wrong with the original posters intentions... It was the horrible advice that followed that concerns me.

For anyone else reading this thread, If you use an article, give credit by keeping the authors resource box intact with clickable links.

If you write your own article, for goodness sake use more than one article as source material. DO NOT simply rewrite someones article and call it your own.

[bobsstuff]

I don't use a lot of EZA content, but when I do (keeping bio box intact) I like to introduce the article with 100 to 300 words or my own. Also conclude the page with another 100 or so words of my own.

[Kay King]

That's a good practice - but perhaps should point out it doesn't mean adding paragraphs that appear to be part of the actual article but rather some text about the article that is set off a bit or comments of your own at the end adding more info about the topic. (just to clarify)

kay

[Dave777]

Here's a little tip and a “twist” on an idea to get some Excellent non-duplicate content, if that is your concern...

Search out particular niche newsletters for Quality information. Surprisingly, there's still lots of “invisible” online/offline content out there if you're willing to spend the time looking!

Keep in mind that many niche newsletter publications do Not publish their content on their websites for a variety of reasons But many are more than open/happy for joint venture type arrangements that can make a win-win money making venture for all parties involved. All it takes is a little brainstorming & some creative thinking... Most smart business professionals love self promotion & recognition and many have loads of stored away invisible content.

Quick example, bartering their sig file in exchange for Free content with the Advertising network revenues into your pockets... Ok maybe just a little into their pockets too...
Top U.S. Ad Networks, August 2008 - ClickZ

Dave

[elitesalesgroup]

Hi Everyone-

Thanks for the input. To clarify, I was intending on using the articles intact, just like that site does. I just want lots of content so I will have something to offer other than adsense links.

From post #7
Glenn wrote
"WRT editing articles from article sites. DON'T DO IT. You'll be in breach
of the T&C of the site you copied the articles from, and you could get
closed down by your host if the author complains to them."

What is WRT?

Many Thanks!
Ann

[anomaly]

Good thoughts guys & gals ...

My 2c worth is this ... rewriting articles can take a lot longer than writing new articles, because you have to think about how to make it different enough ... whereas writing new articles you can type as fast as you can think and the ideas flow much quicker ... this is my experience from trying to rewrite my own articles, now I just write new ones.

[Zachary R. Skinner]

Duplicate Content - Straight From The Horses Mouth!

[SEOsly]

The great duplicate content myth! *cough*

[Glenn Leader]

Originally Posted by elitesalesgroup

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From post #7
Glenn wrote
"WRT editing articles from article sites. DON'T DO IT. You'll be in breach
of the T&C of the site you copied the articles from, and you could get
closed down by your host if the author complains to them."

What is WRT?

Many Thanks!
Ann

With Regard To

HTH

Glenn

[MikeGriffith]

I wouldn't advise duplicating someone else's work, even if you "change the words" around a bit. Not just because you wouldn't get much response from search engines, but because if you're not careful you could get into a lot of trouble. Fresh content is always better. If you're not a writer, get some professional help.

[Star Riley]

Personal it's up to the online god "Google" if they see your lilttle less than 10,000 page site with articles on it as gooble-gook i.e spamdexing.

With a few niche sites I have tested this and when I put together a collection of niche focused sites using ezine,goarticle or whomever "content" my adsense income has only increased.

Of course I did add inbound-links and other traffic generating seo top secret no one else on the planet knows but me "go figure" seo magic star dust :-)

Amazingly those test site just come of as a "hey instead of wasting your life online finding info about ___, let me do it and organize the ___ content here." than spammy.

To me if you provide value:

1. Save someone time (Why do people pay for ebooks when most info is free online if you take the time to digg).

2. Help someone solve and issue.

3. Teach someone how to ______.

Based on the amount of value or more accurately the amount of perceived value don't expect to make a million per site. I have tons of sites and only now is adsense increased enough for me to be able to focus on making "real money", I was stubborn enough to make it work to the level I wrote on paper.

While content is " a killer" traffic ends up being the bullet, hope you make a killing. Learn while you earn and test whatever others tell you online even me, ---> especially me :-)

[Nickct]

Hi,
I really do not think there is a duplicate content penalty. There is a duplicate penalty for content within the same website though.

Certainly you will get more search engine juice from fresh original content so its always better to do it that way.

One of the easy ways to get that done is to record a conversation with a knowledgable person on the topic. Then search for "transcribe audio" in google to get a service to turn the audio into your article. Its only a few bucks - no big deal.

Even better is to do it on video or webinar. Then you have video content, audio (podcast), then transcribe for articles.

Even better still is to do a holography, then extract a 3D video- audio etc...

Darn it! Holography isn't available yet, strike that.

It's that show "Fringe" - keeps me thinking outside the box!

[Gunter Eibl]

Strange discussion here. We are all submitting articles like nuts to get traffic and backlinks. The only reason why this works is because other people publish our articles. On the other hand you say it's nonsense to publish other peoples articles on your site? It's the same thing just the other way round.

Gunter

[Star Riley]

Originally Posted by Nickct

Hi,
I really do not think there is a duplicate content penalty. There is a duplicate penalty for content within the same website though.

Certainly you will get more search engine juice from fresh original content so its always better to do it that way.

One of the easy ways to get that done is to record a conversation with a knowledgable person on the topic. Then search for "transcribe audio" in google to get a service to turn the audio into your article. Its only a few bucks - no big deal.

Even better is to do it on video or webinar. Then you have video content, audio (podcast), then transcribe for articles.

Even better still is to do a holography, then extract a 3D video- audio etc...

Darn it! Holography isn't available yet, strike that.

It's that show "Fringe" - keeps me thinking outside the box!

Thinking out the box I think I'll try that and the planet I'm from Holography is old news.

I missed a few episodes thank Google for hulu.

I agree with u about dupe content 99% , My momma used to say "nothing new under the sun" but then again barbarically she never owned a computer.

[adamv]

Originally Posted by NathanSmith

Well, you can take the articles that other people have written but make sure that you rewrite these articles first so that the problem of plagiarism will not arise.

You must have missed about half of the responses above. You can't avoid the "problem of plagerism" by rewriting someone's article.

If your research for an article consists only of someone else's article which you simply substitute some synonyms for and maybe put things in a different order, that's still plagerism.

If you're using other people's articles to research your own article writing you have to use more than one article as your source material. You should be looking at multiple articles, websites, and other sources for your research and not just rewriting someone else's work.