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Old 01-21-2009, 03:33 AM   #51
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Please stop insulting writers like this. You want people to pay high prices for your products, right? So, why would you want to belittle someone by paying them scraps that will barely feed one person let alone a family. That's just not right

When I first started writing, I put out a $5 WSO for 50 articles. Even though I had a bit of help, it nearly killed me to make pennies. My hands were bruised, swollen, and cramped. I vowed to never do that again.

I seriously feel bad for writers who charge so little.
Maybe you should stop telling people what they can and cant earn.
If people are happy getting $2 per article who are you to tell people they cant, also to some people this is a lot of money so why should you tell them they cant earn a living if they want to.

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Old 01-21-2009, 03:48 AM   #53
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Why does everyone and their dog think they should dictate what a writer is paid.

I have spent time digging into the niche and have come out with lots of different reason why people chose to pay what they do. There are also lots of reasons why people charge what they do.

The bottom line is let the writer chose their own business model. If someone wants to write for $1 let them, it is their business, they have their own business model. If someone wants to write for $1,000 an article (yes there are websites charging that rate for a 400 word article) let them because that is their model.

As I said in my course, it is like saying all restaurants should be 5 star, there is nothing wrong with a fast food restuarant because it meets the needs of their target market.

John in answer to your question there are lots of ways a writer can earn more from the backend.
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:05 AM   #54
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Please stop insulting writers like this. You want people to pay high prices for your products, right? So, why would you want to belittle someone by paying them scraps that will barely feed one person let alone a family. That's just not right

When I first started writing, I put out a $5 WSO for 50 articles. Even though I had a bit of help, it nearly killed me to make pennies. My hands were bruised, swollen, and cramped. I vowed to never do that again.

I seriously feel bad for writers who charge so little.
Do you understand what an exchange rate is?

Why not take that into consideration?

Content writers are a dime a dozen and can easily be replaced.

Plenty of hungry writers out there that would appreciate steady work.

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Why does everyone and their dog think they should dictate what a writer is paid.
Maybe because there is nothing special about content writing and they can easily be replaced by cheaper, quality, writers?

Before getting into any business model, one should ask themselves "Can someone overseas do it cheaper? "

If the answer is yes, you may want to rethink your business model and strategy!


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Old 01-21-2009, 07:33 AM   #55
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When I first began writing for others I charged very low rates. That was done intentionally in order to establish my name as a writer. But writing does take time and effort.

Over time I gradually increased my rates because I found that I was spending many hours a day researching and writing and there was little time left for other business ventures. But as time went on I was also learning even more about writing and researching which meant that I was producing higher quality products (articles, ebooks, autoresponder series, etc.).

My writing is a major part of my online business and I want to treat it as a business. My rates are competitive and I strive to provide products that are pleasing to my clients. I will go out of my way to create a personalized product for a client.

I did the same thing before I established myself as a writer - because I was not known I felt I had to offer low rates to get testimonials and an initial client or two.

There are bargain shoppers everywhere. I myself look for low rates on numerous services and products. However, I also know that there are some things that are worth spending more on. Doing business with a trusted and reliable source provides a peace of mind and sense that you will be taken care of properly and your needs will be attended to. If you can find that at a low rate then by all means, it should be a wise investment of your money.

We each have to decide on a business model - including whether it will include being the bargain shopper's dream stop or a place that provides quality work for competitive rates. The Wal-Marts in my location do a booming business but that does not seem to take away from many of the stores that charge much higher prices for the same or similar items. There seems to be room for all types of businesses and shoppers.

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If you go to digitalpoint forums content creation forums, you'll find plenty of people that can go below $5/article. Cyberhubonline.com does it for only $3/article (they get most of their clients from digitalpoint) and believe it or not the quality is decent even at that price.

Are you kidding me? I gave them some of the easiest topics in the world and they were barely legible.

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Old 01-22-2009, 03:09 AM   #57
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in this arena, to each his own i must say.

what is insulting to one writer may not necessarily apply to another. in the open internet market, economics plays a big part. so telling people that writers should be paid this or that will not make any sense because all our circumstances are different, cost of living, rents, salaries, exchange rates, etc.

and this is very normal even in the offline world. buy a car in the u.s., the cost is different here in asia. it is always market forces and economics.

buy a mcdonalds hamburger and coke in new york and compare the cost in the philippines or hk. you will see the big discrepancy.

the same applies to writers. and there is nothing we can do. someone's standards are always different from another.

let the market forces play and recognize the opportunities where you can make big profits.
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Do you understand what an exchange rate is?

Why not take that into consideration?

Content writers are a dime a dozen and can easily be replaced.

Plenty of hungry writers out there that would appreciate steady work.



Maybe because there is nothing special about content writing and they can easily be replaced by cheaper, quality, writers?

Before getting into any business model, one should ask themselves "Can someone overseas do it cheaper? "

If the answer is yes, you may want to rethink your business model and strategy!
Did you read what I wrote or did you just decide to rant on over the one sentence?

I said let people choose their own business model.

Maybe we should just price fix writers because they are not special or anything thing else.

Why not just make people do their offline/online for $1 an hour because there are plenty of people who could do what they do.

Why not just work online for $1 an hour because nobody is special and they can all be replaced by cheaper workers in a third world country.

Why just pick on writers why not demand everything to be done cheap, and not just the outsourcing, but whatever people sell. Stop people trying to make a lot of money online, because they could also be replaced by cheap workers.

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Old 01-22-2009, 04:17 AM   #59
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I have tried 1 Spinner and found it useless, i basically had to re write and check the grammer.

I have used a fellow warrior and found her reliable and fast with great articles.
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Old 01-22-2009, 07:20 AM   #60
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Did you read what I wrote or did you just decide to rant on over the one sentence?

I said let people choose their own business model.
Yup, you made a nice looking post.

And I never told anyone what business model to choose. Content writing can be a good model, but for the average person to succeed it can be harder as competition is willing to do it for cheaper. It can be harder because competition is willing to do it cheaper.

That doesn't make sense to you?

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Why not just work online for $1 an hour because nobody is special and they can all be replaced by cheaper workers in a third world country.
So you do get it. That's the point. Competition is willing to work for cheaper and content writers are replacable. The average content writer online will eventually be effected by cheaper,oversea workers. If they aren't effected already.

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Why just pick on writers why not demand everything to be done cheap, and not just the outsourcing, but whatever people sell. Stop people trying to make a lot of money online, because they could also be replaced by cheap workers.
You actually think i'm "picking on" writers?

This is a thread about writers, why would I talk about anything else?

The point is... if someone overseas can do it cheaper than me, imo that's not the best model to get into for long term.


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Old 01-22-2009, 07:45 AM   #61
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These post really crack me up! How many times is there going to be a thread about prices for articles?

Bottom line is what ever works for you, that is what you do!

If your comfortable paying $100.00 an article and that works for you then great.

If you pay $2.00 for an article and that works for you then thats great to!

There is no set fee for any service. Even off line, you have businesses competing that will lower or raise their prices at certain times. This is no different, it's just business!

I will say though, I have found some article writers that write great articles for $2.00, and the click through rates have been over 30%. I paid $10.00 for an article once and it SUCKED!

These arguments are nothing more than people's opinions and that is never going to change no matter how many times it goes back and forth.

Some say $2.00 are going to be garbage, others disagree. But so what. It all boils down to what works for YOU and what puts money in YOUR pocket. It doesn't matter how you get there, it's the results that matter.

Here's an idea that works really well (for me anyway). Get a writer to write articles for cheap prices, but offer them bonus incentives on how their articles do. If it makes you money then you give them a little bonus. You will be suprised at the dedication people will give you if they know they may get a little more if their article produces even though they price they wrote them for is way cheaper than others.

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Old 10-27-2009, 10:11 PM   #62
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Judging the product just based on price is so incredibly stupid. I sell an ecommerce product through my sites for $30 and the same EXACT product on ebay for $14. I do it because I make money on both and I have the resources to fufill the orders. I'd expect article writing teams to be no different.
How can you possibly believe such a thing? First off, your product, unless I am misunderstanding you, is a digital download or possibly a disk that is mailed. So your inventory cost is minimal at best.

People that will work for the rate they need to, to be able to generate articles for less than $5 is typically going to be someone that has little knowledge with the English language. Therefore, you will get very poor quality and sometimes absolutly unreadable. Seldom will you get a top notch article, but you might get lucky.

You can't mass produce the article product. They have to be generated individually and specifically to order. They don't lend themselves to mass production. They are each hand made, so to speak.

Sorry, but your argument just doesn't hold water.

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Old 10-27-2009, 10:23 PM   #63
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If you are a new customer of cyberhub, you will probably get acceptable articles the first time round, after that, it's all crap, even with their rewrites.
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I've paid $20 for an article and I've paid $2. I've yet to see a really clear distinction between the two, other than the fact that one of the $20 articles that I paid for was way over the readers in my niches head.

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People should really stop getting so offended because someone doesn't want to shell out the $100 for 400 words that some people think they are worth.

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a bit harsh Jeremy - don't you think.

Personally, I don't understand why anyone buys $2, $3 or $5 articles - I can set up an autoblog to pull better content in for free.

The beauty of the free market system is that you get what you pay for - people buying $1 per hundred articles will soon find that nobody reads them and they don't convert so they soon look around for something better.

Would I pay $100 for 400 words? Absolutely - if those 400 words can make me $100 a month I've made that back in 4 months and the rest is profit...

Writers - provide more value than what you charge and you'll always have customers.

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Honestly, getafreelancer.com is a good place to go to find article writers. Though some of the writers are really flakey. There are many great writers there. And, a lot of the people posting projects there are wanting to pay the writers only 1.25 or so per 500 word article. The providers don't pay much, and they get quality articles written. Though, it would be nice to pay the article writers a little more if they prove that they are reliable and produce quality work.
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Old 10-28-2009, 03:12 PM   #66
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I think it is up to the individual person, if they can make $50 an article, and are happy with it, then good for them. If they make $2 and article and the client and the writer are happy with the work done and payment received, then who is anyone else to say it is right or wrong. As long as both parties in the writing contract are happy with the pay received and work completed who else really needs to care?

Just my 2 cents.

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a bit harsh Jeremy - don't you think.

Personally, I don't understand why anyone buys $2, $3 or $5 articles - I can set up an autoblog to pull better content in for free.

The beauty of the free market system is that you get what you pay for - people buying $1 per hundred articles will soon find that nobody reads them and they don't convert so they soon look around for something better.

Would I pay $100 for 400 words? Absolutely - if those 400 words can make me $100 a month I've made that back in 4 months and the rest is profit...

Writers - provide more value than what you charge and you'll always have customers.
Sorry, unless you can provide some empirical evidence supporting that statement, you should re-think it because you're presenting it as factual, which it's not.

While I'll admit I've never paid $1 an article, I've consistently made into the high six figures routinely using really good quality article content at $5 a pop. I've paid for article content in price ranges all over the board, and I still come back to those that provide the best ROI for my business model.

I've got great writers and you know what? I didn't hold a gun to their heads and demand they charge me $5 an article - it just happened to be the rate they charge. And because I provide such a high volume of business to them, they maintain that rate.

On the other hand, considering how free I am with bonuses every couple of days, it probably works out to $7 or $8 an article.

I have nothing but the greatest respect for people who have the ability to write well and I'm not knocking anyone who can command higher rates. But I really lose respect for those who are so arrogant as to presume that only high-paid content is of any value in this business.

They're either incredibly naive to think so, or just don't get it, so maybe they shouldn't be writing after all. What don't they understand about global economics driving the price down?

These days it's quite common for people to travel to countries like India or Argentina for medical procedures that are as low as 25% of the cost in the US. Do you think it could become such a rapidly growing industry (Medical Tourism), if the low cost equated to poor care?

I’ll repeat what I said in the past about this topic – for the most part, writers screwed themselves over the years by being willing to write so cheaply in the first place. 5 years ago, paying $25 to $50 an article was the norm…until they got greedy and super competitive in out bidding each other and everyone started charging $5 to $10 a pop.

Add non-native speakers of English from impoverished countries to the mix, and now you’ve got a problem – you can’t raise the prices back up. Not my fault. Not Jeremy’s fault. It’s the writer’s fault.

You know who I respect the most when it comes to writing? People like Bev Clement who understand that their writing ability commands high rates and who doesn’t need to write below her target market.

No matter how much writers may complain about it, they will never see content writing earn much more than $10 per article on the whole. It’s a market they shouldn’t even be trying to compete in – instead, they should be going after the high-end market willing to pay appropriately for their ability and just let this go…
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No matter how much writers may complain about it, they will never see content writing earn much more than $10 per article on the whole.


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Sorry, unless you can provide some empirical evidence supporting that statement, you should re-think it because you're presenting it as factual, which it's not".

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