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Hi, I was wondering where do you find the best article writers & submitters for less than $5 per article? I currently pay $5 per article writing & submission and was open to see if anyone here does it for less or same type of price... ...thanks BJ |
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If you go to digitalpoint forums content creation forums, you'll find plenty of people that can go below $5/article. Cyberhubonline.com does it for only $3/article (they get most of their clients from digitalpoint) and believe it or not the quality is decent even at that price.
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Well if this Cyberhubonline.com outfit is that good, their support is crap. I have tried to ask them a question on more than one occasion and not one reply. I never bought anything from them as I figured that if their response to a simple question was too much for them, filling an order for ten or twenty articles would be way too much for them to handle.
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Cyberhub is good if you have weeks to wait and don't mind fixing the English. That was my experience, maybe others had better ones. And DP is a forum full of cheap people so you can check there for cheap writers. Probably won't find a whole lot to write $5 articles here unless they are short articles.
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5 dollars an article? Your click through rate will be terrible. Absolute rubbish is all you can purchase for five dollars. |
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I have tried $2, $3, $5, $10 and now I have a team of writers who charge me $15 ... I have my own control panel to do business with them, I throw out my articles and they grab em, and submit them as soon as they could for more business. Most writers are graduates with not only great vocab, but also great at doing online researches before they write and the content is great. Rich in keywords, properly organized, with headlines where required, they try and use multiple variations of each keyword like - keyword, search term, search phrase, to get ~keyword match of search engines. And the more they work with me, the better they become. Plus I don't have to work with different people at different times, they all know what I need, I know what they can deliver and it just works out great. WebWritersPro.com is the site I am planning to use to allow some members (clients) share this team with me. The only problem is that if I try to make profit, the articles become even more expensive for the client, so I think I could only accomodate a few people who value quality and keep the writers busy (for now) ... Anyhow, good luck with your search, but I would say, if you are happy with what you are getting for 5 bucks, stick to it ... don't compromise on quality ... unless you could really find good writers for less than that. I went there, but came back with a bad taste in my mouth ... |
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| formerly annoyedgirl War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA.
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I just looked at dp out of curiosity and sure enough, someone is offering $2 articles.
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I'm not saying there aren't people out there who would be prepared to sell articles at less than $5.. But.. Would you be confident paying that and expect to get quality content?.... I just would not be happy. I much prefer writers that are: Reassuringly expensive ![]() Although I do outsource some to a forum member here for around $10+.. he does a lot of work for me and I trust him.. my $200 a week to him makes him rich to his friends.. we have had a long business relationship and I can trust him.. I wouldn't be confident looking for other sources at this price.. Peace Jay |
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I have had nothing but rubbish at $5, even at $10 with very rare exceptions. Articles for that kind of money have to be either: 1. Machine rewrites of published material. It's rubbish. It will take you as long to rewrite it as it would to write a whole new article. 2. Non-native English writers. It's rubbish. You will have to rewrite it. I don't mean to insult the abilities of all non-native English speakers. There are many who can write very good articles... but at this level they're not charging $5. If anybody can show me consistenly good articles (not just a one-off) at $5 each I'll eat my words... as long as you give me the contact details! |
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Not really true DavidO... there are definitely non-native english speakers who can write even BETTER than the native ones. Yes I found a gem of one myself, but anyway, they are rare but if you're patient, you can find a few and don't tell anyone else about them when you do lol. Look on elance.com, guru.com, odesk.com, do a search and go through the list. Find ones from the phillipnes or thailand and then email them personally and see if you can get them to do < $5 an article, if you make a good offer, it's likely they'll go for it. |
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Outsourcing to no-native english speakers can definitely work.. but I'd be looking at the reassuringly expensive ones, they know the value of their work | |
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The key is to find someone who can write reasonably well, consistently and is willing to have a long-term relationship with you. Over time, the quality will improve if it's not great already as they come to really understand your needs and goals. Yes, you can find decent content writers for $5 a pop and some for less. By the same token, you can pay a lot more and receive total crap too. Or vice-versa. You really cannot and should not assume that price has anything to do with the quality you'll receive. And for you cheap bastards out there - if you've got a pretty good content writer now, take care of him or her, would ya? If you're making money of their efforts, then give them something more. They'll stick around longer and strive to improve even more if you give them a reason to. |
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Within your niche, just browse through forums and ask people if they are willing to write few articles.
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Good God, $5 articles. How depressing. I charge $25 an article, I get it regularly, and my clients love me. Here's the thing with super cheap articles: I know that you can find desperate people in third world countries who are willing to work for really pitiful amounts like $2, and some of them will do a decent job. However, you are going to have to work a lot harder and go through a lot of people to find someone who can provide decent articles. If you are willing to pay more like $15-$25, and you get someone with testimonials and good samples, I sincerely believe you have a much better chance of getting good results. | |
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At the end of the day ....How do you find GOOD Article Marketers for $5.00? YOU DONT! And those who sell their services for that $ or less HAVE TO BE putting out garbage or all software generated articles. I will not even consider "Looking" at an article project for less than $10.00 and that is really pushing the envelope. ...and would only be for some of my clients who give me consistent business. Sean | |
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I am sure you can find people who would write reasonably well for under $5 an article. I am not one of those people, but I am sure they are out there. ![]() I have been willing to charge only $6 or $7 an article in order to get some references (which I have gotten - WOO HOOOO!), but that is as low as I would go. It is possible to find someone who will do a great job for little money, but it is not often the case, and it is usually under special circumstsnces (such as someone just starting out). It would be better to go with someone more expensive with good references, IMHO. And I agree with others here - if you find a writer you like, take good care of him or her! |
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As a content writer who fulfills orders for $5 a pop, and lower for bulk requests, I hope you'd understand if I got offended by what you have posted. I have been in the content writing business for close to 5 years now, and this industry has been very good to me. I have worked with established personalities in the field. I have also worked with relative beginners. I have cherished every opportunity they have provided for me, and I gave my best for every project they entrusted to me. In 5 years, I have never received any complaints about my work. I am quite proud of my job and I haven't done anything to cheat anyone of their hard-earned money. To be labeled as someone who cannot provide quality work, and even to be subjected to a sweeping statement that implies that I produce software-generated deliverables is - I'm sorry to say - quite insulting. I understand that yours is an opinion. If, by some chance, your opinion is empirical, it is nonetheless a hasty generalization, fallacious in nature and hardly conclusive. You may have had bad experiences with $5 writers, but such doesn't mean that every $5 writer on the internet is just as incompetent. I am just like you, Sean. I'm working hard to give my family a good life. You may think that my rates are ridiculously cheap, but that's the price point that works for me and that's the price point that has given me good business. $5 an article may not make me as rich as you, but that doesn't give you the right to label my work, albeit indirectly, as "garbage" and "software-generated." We're all comrades in this forum... family even. I hope we can be careful with the words we share. Thanks for your time. - Johnny | |
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I hope you would know that there is a Purchasing Power Parity factor when it comes to comparing a dollar with the currency of some so-called 'third world countries'. I agree $2 or even $5 is too low but it certainly is not a pitiful amount for some of them/us. | |
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Making such a blanket statement is just not fair on those who are writing great articles at these prices. They may have just started and are looking for building relationships. And then there are those for whom a dollar is more valuable in their respective countries than in US or Europe. | |
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$5 articles are garbage! You need to pay at least 3 cents/word for copy that converts into sales.
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A $5 article marketer? Are you kidding? Any self-respecting article writer would never low ball themselves like that! Bloggers are charging $25 - $50 per post. Lower prices are meant for non-SEO-purpose blog postings. I can't imagine someone writing for less than $25 per article. |
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"5 dollars an article? Your click through rate will be terrible. Absolute rubbish is all you can purchase for five dollars." Yeah must say I've been really happy with the services offered by my current writer, he's a great guy and offers fantastic content, i've got a 20% to 25% click through at $5 a piece. Hey I can see however that the guys offering the $25 per article content could provide a better result, more time spent and more experience is priceless, I wouldn't count the cheaper guys out though! Alex |
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My guy is $6 per article.. and I don't even need to check keyword density, copyscape, none of that.. and I'm getting crazy conversions and crazy clicks... It's all the luck of the draw.. | |
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Hi BJ, I use need-an-article.com. They will write quality articles for $5.52 and have them completed within 2 - 3 days! Awesome turn around time! I've been impressed and happy with their service. |
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As usual as soon as one of these discussions starts you get all the idiots doing the blanket assumptions that anything less than X must be rubbish. I have an excellent Writer from USA who writes me brilliant 400 word articles for $4 each and they are all 100% unique, no errors and very interesting. I have also just started using another person that charges $2 an article and again they are absolutely fine for the job. I wish people wouldn't do all this unless you are paying $100 for an article you wont make money. I am making some very nice money with the articles that are being written for me and i but approx 200-300 articles a month and i don't pay anymore than $4 each. Please don't all assume that cheap articles MUST BE rubbish because this is not necessarily so |
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It is very possible to find writers who will work for $5 and I see nothing wrong in paying a writer that fee. I currently have a writer who is superb and delivers quality work with a CTR I'm happy with. I mean it's all well and good being able to afford to pay a writer $15 - $20 per article, but when you're just starting out and you need to outsource to continue growing your business and moving forward, it's not always possible to outsource to a writer charging those fees. Hats off to those further along in their business, but rather than over extend myself financially, I'll stick to my $5 guy for now! ![]() Try www.odesk.com that's where I found mine! |
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I would not buy an article for less than I'd write it for myself.. So would I write someone an article for $5. Hell no. I would write a good 500 word article for $10-$15 though. So that is what I would pay someone to write one for me. Seems fair. |
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I've heard good stuff about articlez.com (no aff) but have not used them myself. I've been using need-an-article.com (no aff) and its a good service, but they don't do article submissions, they just write them.
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generalizing based on what you pay the writer does not make any sense. before i hired a filipino writer for $2 per 500 word article and she produced good/excellent copy. and i once hired a uk guy for $15 per article and i got disastrous results, lots of grammatical errors, no coherence between sentences/paragraphs, misspellings, etc. just because one is a native english speaker automatically makes one a better writer than the non-native speaker. go to odesk.com. you will find there many asian providers who excel in english-related exams much better than american/british providers. internet marketing is a business. the less you spend, the more you improve your bottomline. if you insist on taking a hard stance based on your preconceived caste-like beliefs that whites are always better writers, the more money you are letting down the drain. |
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Many people don't have the time to test through dozens of writers just to find one good one. On the other hand it makes no sense to write the articles yourself, unless you're promoting yourself and your own products. Writing yourself is a waste of your time. As an Internet Marketer you should spend time on promoting your stuff and not on writing articles or setting sites up etc. So once you've reached a certain level, the next step is outsourcing. Either take the time to find some writers yourself or outsource to someone who has done the testing and has a team of good writers already that you can use without having to bother with the details. It's just a question how valuable your time is. Gunter |
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I have American writers who write 400 word product review pages and capture a 250x250 product image for $4.25. This also includes them finding 3 testimonials from sites outside of the merchant domain. No, I'm not sharing my source...sorry, info-article writers are a dime a dozen. Just keep testing new writers until you get the lowest price for the highest quality content. That's just smart business...and I do know a few article writers who have a great business sense. They manage to market their services for a premium and outsource the writing of the articles. They take a quick peak before sending the work over and they're able to do 10x more business without writing anything... "But I love to write" - great, then outsource the writing of your clients and write for yourself. Obviously others are making money off you...why shouldn't you be bringing in cheese? | |
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I have hired several writers from GetAFreelancer.com who varied in skill. Eventually I found one who is an excellent writer with great English and Internet Marketing know how. He has a team of writers and I can normally get 100% re-writes done at $50 for 25 articles and new articles at $4 per. |
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BIG Mike hit the nail hard: You have to be ready for everything. Crappy writers are out there - for all kinds of prices from 'sky high' to 'low below the ground' prices. I've written for $5. I've written for $10. I've written for $15. I was lucky to START with $15 - the guy who hired me loved me so much before I even wrote for him ![]() With writers, as with everything else, one can't make blanket statements. I hadn't heard what a "spinner" was unless I joined this forum. It was one year after I started out ghostwriting online. That was when I was writing for $5-$10. When I DID come to know of spinners, I kept as far from them as one can be. All writers have their standards some charge a premium price, some don't. And the age old economics of demand and supply still work. If you can get quality articles for $5 and you know you're paying a handsome amount to the writer in HIS currency, it makes business sense to stick with it.My .02 ![]() Sagar |
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There is no real blanket statement for what content is worth. It is all in what you are using the content for. In some cases, a completely senseless, yet keyword filled article might be ten times more profitable than a $100 article written by someone with a PHD. Content always comes with qualifications. I use different writers for different purposes. It is all in how you want to play the game. |
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Having been on the other side of the coin, it surprises me that some people actually tried to get articles written for a dollar per article. And, in some of the cases the length of the article requested is so ridiculously long, that to do a good job, you would literally be working for one to two dollars an hour. And, there is not really any way to speed that up, partially because in some cases they also want you to do all the research. I've also come across people that not only want you to do research, write a number of articles, literally for peanuts, but they also want you to do all the work in terms of promoting their site is well. From what I've seen, and people I've spoken with, in most cases if you try to squeeze too hard, you get crap. There's nothing wrong with making a buck, but if you're being so utterly cheap to try and squeeze every last penny out of someone, then chances are if that writer does do work for you, and they are good, they may not be writing for you too long. So, I think it is important to pay your writers fairly, especially if they are worth it. |
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I believe you get what you pay for. I charge $10 per article for 400 words or less, and I have many clients that I write for on an ongoing basis. If I am going to write good quality articles that are optimized for keywords, and do the research in most cases, I am not going to do it for $5! My time is more valuable than that. If you can find good writers for that amount, you better make sure you keep them! In fact, $10 is really too low for the work I do, but I think once I become more established I will raise my rates to what the norm is - around $15 per article. It's well worth it for good content. Just my opinion - good luck |
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i agree with johnathan in his post. but in the face of the global internet economy, being fair is very relative. $5 is very fair in the philippines where the minimum daily rate is less than $10 (i guess) while $15-20 is the norm in the U.S.A or maybe even more. there are a lot of market forces and factors that influence how much you pay your writers. i for one is based in the philippines and i can easily access good/excellent university-level writers at rates most of you won't even think possible. most of these students, they are just too happy to get some part-time work to supplement their allowances aside from having the opportunity to launch their online writing careers. in most cases, when they graduate, they become less interested in what i am offering especially when they obtain full-time jobs. but there is an endless supply of writers here and i can easily get one if i need to. even if out of 10 recruits, only 1 stands out, i will still profit from it because of the cheap price and that is how i conduct my business. it may be a waste of my time to find good writers out there. but i find that i am getting roi 100 times the effort and time invested in finding the gems out there. why? because i charge my clients $$$ at US level pay rates and i pay in peso. i guess that is how you call labor arbitrage. but i don't mind. it is always business. many multinational companies are doing it (call centers, bpos, etc.) so i am just capitalizing on this trend. Quote:
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It all depends where your writer is located. For example I am a DP user and have recently joined this forum. I am forced to charge $1 per 100 words because...Paypal is not available in my country. I charge this amount so that people can open an account with Moneybookers or use Western Union. |
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| JohnYeo.name War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Singapore
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I am wondering beside just charging a price for each article, what are the ways an article writer can build up their backends? What about charging a package or providing other complementary service? Would love to hear from article writers out there. ![]() John |
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| The Fabulous One War Room Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Texas
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Please stop insulting writers like this. You want people to pay high prices for your products, right? So, why would you want to belittle someone by paying them scraps that will barely feed one person let alone a family. That's just not right When I first started writing, I put out a $5 WSO for 50 articles. Even though I had a bit of help, it nearly killed me to make pennies. My hands were bruised, swollen, and cramped. I vowed to never do that again. I seriously feel bad for writers who charge so little. |
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I really don't see anything wrong in paying a writer $5 to write an article, if that is the rate they will accept. I myself am a published writer (offline) with many publications to my name, so I do know more than some, the worth of a writer and the hells of a writer. However, for people to just think there should be a blanket charge that EVERY writer should be paid is just wrong. |
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The thought that the price you pay for an article correlates directly with the conversion rate of that article borders on the lines of insanity. Writers crack me up, seriously. They jump up and down shouting that they are getting $30 an article, great! Good for you! However, there are people out there that are charging between $3 and $5 an article and produce quality work. I've paid $20 for an article and I've paid $2. I've yet to see a really clear distinction between the two, other than the fact that one of the $20 articles that I paid for was way over the readers in my niches head. If someone wants to charge $5 for an article, let them. Hell, if they can write two an hour or three an hour, they are making ten to fifteen bucks an hour. That is a hell of a lot better than many people do in the "real world". People should really stop getting so offended because someone doesn't want to shell out the $100 for 400 words that some people think they are worth. Jeremy |
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