Aweber??- Subscribing 1 subscriber to TWO lists? - How ?

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Lets say I have a 5 Ebooks on 5 seperate Squeezes page on Health and Fitness,

1) Supplements for dieting (Squeeze page 1)

2) Fitness routines to burn fat (Squeeze page 2)

3) Exerzising to lose weight (Squeeze page 3)

4) Gym secrets - to burn that fat (Squeeze page 4)

5) 40 Diet tips - without exereize (Squeeze page 5)

So there are 5 squeeze pages, promoting 5 separate ebooks.

Visitors to all 5 pages are bought by a differnt traffic method.


This will build 5 mini lists.....but how can i arrange it so that there is a 6th HUGE list containing all of the subscribers from the 5 mini lists..

so that would be a General health newsletter (that EVERY subscriber gets from each list)..... as well as their Not so frequent health tips in their individual lists?
(I know you shouldnt confuse them with many emails and different list types etc, but lets forget that for now)

So here it is basically
List 1 (Squeeze page 1)= 100 subscribers
List 2 (Squeeze page 2)= 100 subscribers
List 3 (Squeeze page 3)= 200 subscribers
List 4 (Squeeze page 4)= 200 subscribers
List 5 (Squeeze page 5)= 200 subscribers
[A total of 1000 subscribers]

List 6 (Combined all = 1000 subscribers) - which automatically get subscribed Via Aweber...

How can i do this? make a subscriber join a Mini list AND A Bigger list too ?
#aweber #lists #subscriber #subscribing
  • Profile picture of the author cindybidar
    Not sure if you can automatically sign them up for a different list, but you can send the same emails to more than one list.

    Sorry, just checked on that, and it looks like you can only do it with a blast, not a follow-up.
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  • Profile picture of the author cswjohnni
    This is easy, create a list 6 (you huge list) and then go to each of your list1, 2...5, and hit automation under the list menu, and create a new action. The action will be, "subscribe to list 6 when leads subscribe to list 1", and then you do it for list 2, 3...5. All the subscribers will be automatically get into the list 6 (master list), then you could send newsletter to list 6. Hope this helps
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    • Profile picture of the author Networking_now
      Originally Posted by cswjohnni View Post

      This is easy, create a list 6 (you huge list) and then go to each of your list1, 2...5, and hit automation under the list menu, and create a new action. The action will be, "subscribe to list 6 when leads subscribe to list 1", and then you do it for list 2, 3...5. All the subscribers will be automatically get into the list 6 (master list), then you could send newsletter to list 6. Hope this helps
      Thanks, I think that is what I was looking for.

      I think the main thing i forgot to ask was that, it isnt going to breach awebers terms and conditions is it ?
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  • Profile picture of the author tkulzer
    cswjohnni's answer is spot on. Automation rules are the way to do what you're talking about. If you're using it in the manner described, there's no problem there.

    Here's a KB article describing the process in a bit more detail with screenshots that may be helpful. As always our Customer Solutions team is here 12 hours a day to help if you have specific questions.

    Can I Add Subscribers to More Than One List At Once? :: AWeber Knowledge Base
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
      Originally Posted by tkulzer View Post

      cswjohnni's answer is spot on. Automation rules are the way to do what you're talking about. If you're using it in the manner described, there's no problem there.

      Here's a KB article describing the process in a bit more detail with screenshots that may be helpful. As always our Customer Solutions team is here 12 hours a day to help if you have specific questions.

      Can I Add Subscribers to More Than One List At Once? :: AWeber Knowledge Base
      Thanks, Tom.

      There you go, folks; straight from the top.

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      • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
        Don't forget that AWeber also allows you to send to multiple lists.

        Using this method, AWeber eliminates the duplicates entries.

        If someone is on your Gym secrets list AND they are also on the supplements list, they would only get 1 General health newsletter from you.

        I don't know if this a better option for you, but it is something I do fairly often.

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  • Thanks....this is what I was wondering too...

    Do you know if aWeber will then make the users opt-in to both lists?
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
      Yes. If you have verified opt-in set, AWeber will have them opt in to every lists.

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      Originally Posted by SetYourselfFreelance View Post

      Thanks....this is what I was wondering too...

      Do you know if aWeber will then make the users opt-in to both lists?
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      • Profile picture of the author bolaji
        Hi all -

        I just found out today, the hard way, that Aweber charges a storage fee for every record you have. Not JUST subscribed records. But also UNSUBSCRIBED RECORDS.

        AND, this is particularly relevant to this discussion, they charge for DUPLICATE RECORDS as well!

        For example:
        If johnny@warriorforum.com is on List A, List B, List C, and List D
        that counts as 4 different "subscribers".

        The way the sticker shock hit me is this:
        I have 4 different free eBooks that serve as list builders.
        Each list had a several hundred people on it.

        I decided to create a single aggregated list, that would have every new subscriber for an eBook, added to this aggregated list.

        When my monthly bill came, I had been bumped up a couple of pricing levels!
        Why?
        The charging for unsubscribes (which I hadn't noticed until now), and
        the charging for duplicates.

        Concrete numbers:
        I have over 5,000 records.
        1,000 of them are unsubscribes.
        4,000 are not.

        Of those 4,000 active subscribers, about 1,500 are duplicates. (on my master list)

        So instead of being charged for 2,500 active subscribers, I'm being charged for 5,000 "records".

        Now that I know, I've had my unsubscribe records deleted, and I'm going to get rid of my master list.
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  • Yup, that's how Aweber's billing system works. A bit tricky, if you ask me...
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  • Profile picture of the author haymanpl
    Create a rule using aweber
    When someone subscribes to list A they also subscibe to List B
    Its easy
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  • What if you want to offer as many free ebooks as possible on different subjects, and john doe decides he wants to grab 3 of them. I only want one list, so how do i avoid him signing up 3 times to the same list ? Will a message appear on the second subscribe telling him he is already subsribed to the list ? This then throws up the problem of creating 'one off' emails, just to get the other 2 ebooks ? In otherwords, will the 3 subscribers be merged as one when being moved from small list to master list ?

    cheers,

    gary
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    • Profile picture of the author haymanpl
      You create another rule. When john doe subscribers to list A he becomes unsubscribed from list B

      Aweber won't help you a lot on this because they make money for the amount of emails you have in storage regardless of whether they are duplicates or triplicates.

      I have closed my aweber account for many reasons as i have been email marketing since the 90's and learn't that there are more effective ways to build a list and convert your list to sales.

      I do acknowledge that aweber is a the best email software however and great to use.
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  • Profile picture of the author darrinmcl
    Regardless of the Aweber billing system and how many subscribers you have, I do something a little different with Aweber and my lists.

    I always create two lists for each product.

    List 1 - Prospects
    List 2 - Customers

    Everyone opts-in to my Prospects list. They then start receiving my Prospect follow ups. When they purchase, an automation rule kicks in that drops them from the Prospects list and adds them to the Customers list.

    This does several things.

    1.) It segragates them. I want to separate the wheat from the chaff so to speak. I want to know who the BUYERS are and who the lookiloos are. My prospect list may have 20 follow up messages trying to get that sale. If they have not purchased my product by then, I hold them for a pre-determined period of time and then I delete them. No sense in paying for something of little value.

    2.) It allows me to treat them differently. Once you are a customer of mine, you start to reap the rewards. Discounts on new products, early bird specials, free stuff, etc. They are part of the family now. And I know they are BUYERS. I don't want them getting more sales material for the original product after they have already purchased it either.

    3.) It keeps my lists clean and of high value. I know that when I do a JV or an Ad Swap with someone, I can almost gaurantee sales from my Customers list. The Prospects list, not so much.

    Anyway... I thought this was something missing from the conversation and I hope you find it useful.

    Best of luck
    Darrin
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    • Profile picture of the author Bshellz
      Originally Posted by darrinmcl View Post

      Regardless of the Aweber billing system and how many subscribers you have, I do something a little different with Aweber and my lists.

      I always create two lists for each product.

      List 1 - Prospects
      List 2 - Customers

      Everyone opts-in to my Prospects list. They then start receiving my Prospect follow ups. When they purchase, an automation rule kicks in that drops them from the Prospects list and adds them to the Customers list.

      This does several things.

      1.) It segragates them. I want to separate the wheat from the chaff so to speak. I want to know who the BUYERS are and who the lookiloos are. My prospect list may have 20 follow up messages trying to get that sale. If they have not purchased my product by then, I hold them for a pre-determined period of time and then I delete them. No sense in paying for something of little value.

      2.) It allows me to treat them differently. Once you are a customer of mine, you start to reap the rewards. Discounts on new products, early bird specials, free stuff, etc. They are part of the family now. And I know they are BUYERS. I don't want them getting more sales material for the original product after they have already purchased it either.

      3.) It keeps my lists clean and of high value. I know that when I do a JV or an Ad Swap with someone, I can almost gaurantee sales from my Customers list. The Prospects list, not so much.

      Anyway... I thought this was something missing from the conversation and I hope you find it useful.

      Best of luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Thompson
    This is a good discussion and there are a couple of important summary points that need to be made.

    1) Yes, you can automatically subscribe a user from one list to a 2nd list. But Aweber WILL send an opt-in confirmation message even if you do not use confirmed opt-in. This is because Aweber needs evidence that the person wants to be on your other list.

    2) Doing #1 above for the purpose of list aggregation is pointless since you can send emails to MULTIPLE LISTS with Aweber anyway.

    3) If you create the "big list", you're duplicating the number of subscribers in your account and therefore doubling the cost of your account with Aweber. This is not a guess, this is fact.

    4) YES, it absolutely makes sense to keep a separate email list for customers of your products. You should automatically unsubscribe customers from your leads list.

    5) You should occasionally go in and delete unsubscribes so you don't get billed for them. Aweber DOES charge you for them as long as they are stored in the database.

    Now a question for you all: If you're doing list segmentation, did you know it's really easy to auto-populate an optin form?

    For example say you have a large list and it's a "general health" list. You want to send them a series of promo emails on building muscle. You know it will only appeal to some of your audience, so the first message goes to a squeeze page where you offer the first bit of info, and then you ask them to confirm their interest in the rest of your series.

    Andre Chaperon teaches this in his ARM course, BTW. Very powerful. BUT, I hate the idea of asking people to take unnecessary actions (typing in their name / email all over again).

    Since you already have their email address, you can very easily pre-populate your optin forms with their data.

    I'm thinking of making a tutorial on this exact topic. Would it be of interest to you? I'll just post it on YouTube.
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    • Profile picture of the author Shaun OReilly
      AWeber is a good autoresponder service but their automatic
      list segmentation functionality is pretty limited.

      Instead, I use ActiveCampaign because it allows me to very
      finely segment my lists based upon what actions my subscribers
      have taken - automatically.

      So, rather than having them unnecessarily fill-in another webform,
      all they need to do is to click a link and they'll be added to a new
      list segment.

      And, I can trigger a new follow-up series automatically (or remove
      them from one).

      Very powerful.

      I used to use some AWeber workaround hacks (like auto-populating
      webforms, using hidden fields, etc.) but it got a bit tiresome -
      especially when some submissions triggered yet another confirmation
      e-mail to be sent out.

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    • Profile picture of the author Bshellz
      Originally Posted by Chris Thompson View Post

      This is a good discussion and there are a couple of important summary points that need to be made.

      1) Yes, you can automatically subscribe a user from one list to a 2nd list. But Aweber WILL send an opt-in confirmation message even if you do not use confirmed opt-in. This is because Aweber needs evidence that the person wants to be on your other list.

      2) Doing #1 above for the purpose of list aggregation is pointless since you can send emails to MULTIPLE LISTS with Aweber anyway.

      3) If you create the "big list", you're duplicating the number of subscribers in your account and therefore doubling the cost of your account with Aweber. This is not a guess, this is fact.

      4) YES, it absolutely makes sense to keep a separate email list for customers of your products. You should automatically unsubscribe customers from your leads list.

      5) You should occasionally go in and delete unsubscribes so you don't get billed for them. Aweber DOES charge you for them as long as they are stored in the database.

      Now a question for you all: If you're doing list segmentation, did you know it's really easy to auto-populate an optin form?

      For example say you have a large list and it's a "general health" list. You want to send them a series of promo emails on building muscle. You know it will only appeal to some of your audience, so the first message goes to a squeeze page where you offer the first bit of info, and then you ask them to confirm their interest in the rest of your series.

      Andre Chaperon teaches this in his ARM course, BTW. Very powerful. BUT, I hate the idea of asking people to take unnecessary actions (typing in their name / email all over again).

      Since you already have their email address, you can very easily pre-populate your optin forms with their data.

      I'm thinking of making a tutorial on this exact topic. Would it be of interest to you? I'll just post it on YouTube.
      Yes I would be extremely interested
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      • Profile picture of the author FelixFuturi
        Since you guys have obviously been using aweber for longer than I have, maybe you can shed some light on an issue I have.

        There aren't a lot of options in dealing with unconfirmed subscribers. I did read a little on what aweber says about it, in that a reminder can't be sent because they've not given permission.

        But on the other hand, they do add up, and if I'm not mistaken, they count on your subscriber count as well. What would be so wrong in allowing us to delete them after 14 days or so?

        I'm going to keep looking for answers, but I thought I'd bring it up in this thread.
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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by FelixFuturi View Post

          Since you guys have obviously been using aweber for longer than I have, maybe you can shed some light on an issue I have.

          There aren't a lot of options in dealing with unconfirmed subscribers. I did read a little on what aweber says about it, in that a reminder can't be sent because they've not given permission.

          But on the other hand, they do add up, and if I'm not mistaken, they count on your subscriber count as well. What would be so wrong in allowing us to delete them after 14 days or so?

          I'm going to keep looking for answers, but I thought I'd bring it up in this thread.

          You should have started a new thread, rather than digging this one from the grave.

          But to answer your question, if they don't confirm, they are not counted against your subscriber numbers.

          The only thing you should be aware of is that if someone unsubscribes, they are still in your subscriber counts until you remove unsubscribes from your list.
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  • Profile picture of the author CopyHat
    Unfortunately, Aweber does not allow you to combine the current list of subscribers that you have into 1 huge list.

    I forget the reasoning behind this, but essentially you will need to get the subscriber to opt in once again to join the other list.

    You can also manually enter in the email onto the list... but the owner of the email will be sent an email asking for confirmation.
    No way around this.
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