A Quick Way to Put $1,000 into Your Paypal Account

[Maria Gudelis]

Originally Posted by Ian Jackson

... just read the Maria's OP again and it seems that I advise the client how to set up accounts for domain/hosting, but allows me to access them with the user/password they choose...?

Hey Ian! It is better if you host the domain (can charge monthly then) and you give them access to the WP blog via domain.com/wp-admin with a userid / pssword

[Avnery]

Thats a brilliant idea just wondering how to estimate the financial value of a potential client site and are there easy ways to identify such clients.

[MJGrae]

Simple innovation, It is and always will be the biggest way to drop some bank.

[greff]

Maria,

Excellent. Just plain excellent. It is obvious to me that many of the naysayers are, well, inexperienced.

[Bruce_Richards]

that was awesome

[Charann Miller]

I think it's great!

It really does come down to perceived value and what the client was willing to pay for it, you pointed out a very genuine concern and at the same time presented the solution, so why not get paid accordingly for it?

You should beef this out and promote it as an emergency cash WSO.

Kudos and rewards for thinking outside the square.

[discrat]

Originally Posted by Maria Gudelis

Hi all, just wanted to let you know on a 'test strategy' I did that got me a client paying $1,000 for about 2 hours of work (this includes getting the client and the execution of the work)

1. I noticed while doing some google searches that someone had page 1 ranking for a search term and it was a wordpress blog NOT hosted on their own domain - it was on wordpress (e.g. "thesearchterm.wordpress.com")

2. I emailed the owner of the wordpress blog 2 brief paragraphs saying basically:

- you have a nice site, ranking well on google page 1 except you have a major risk exposed to your business. Wordpress does not like companies hosting blogs on wordpress that are commercial and whether it is today, tomorrow, or in the near future, you are exposed to wordpress simply deleting your blog that must have taken a fair bit of energy to create. It happened to me once and cost me some money as I was ranking on google page 1 in number 1 position.

If you are interested, I can help you eliminate any risk of you losing your blog for a fee of $1,000. That would involve transferring it completely to your own hosted domain, you have full control now in the future and no one can then delete your blog!

Everything will be the same and as an added benefit, you can get better search engine optimization with added plug ins and I can also put an RSS feed onto your blog.

***
Now I know the above paragraphs are not 'ad copy' optimized - nevertheless, it worked,
1.The prospect said yes
2. I sent the company an invoice via paypal functionality
3. $1,000 came into my account and I got the info to log into the wordpress blog hosted on wordpress.

4. I spent 15 minutes on the phone helping him with a domain name to use.
5. He set up a namecheap acct. and a hosting acct. at dreamhost
6. I got the access info
7. I went over to scriptlance, posted a job description to transfer the existing wordpress hosted blog over to own hosted WP blog (including all the comments as his blog had a lot of user comments)
8. Cost of scriptlance resource- $80

Hmmm...2 hours of my time, net profit of $920...

Anyhow, hope it helps fire up some ideas to all of you and feel free to test out the fee you charge as one thing that is interesting, is I now am getting other work from that company so the continuity is an added benefit.

A little bit of an exorbitant amount you are charging this fellow wouldn't you say ?? I am all about Capitalism and making a very healthy Profit. Trust me I am !! But my gosh it cost you $80 and 15 minutes and you charge the guy $1,000 ?? I just wonder what your Customer would think if he happened to stumble upon this Post and read it ??
In all due respect to the OP would you be comfortable inviting him on this Forum to check out this Thread ? Seriously ? Because I can honestly say I wouldnt have ANY problems for any of my Customers to check out anything I have said on these Forums. Can you say the same ?

Remember, this guy is also an Intenrnet Marketer as you openly talk about in your original Post.

Is it very prudent and business saavy to be talking in such a Public Forum about how much you just made off of a fellow Marketer ?? Just asking.......... Because he could easily come on here and see this.

Not trying to single you out or be a hard arse but just trying to provide a little Food for Thought !!

[abelacts]

This shows that ideas = money. Pretty clever. Thanks for the great tip.

One question though: When you move the free site to a paid hosting, doesn't the client lose his SEO ranking? How do you about convincing him on this?

[tunukwa]

Hi, I am a newbie to both internet marketing and the forum. Thank you for sharing that wonderful idea and all the other information. Thank you, thank you, thank you.


Tunukwa

[Colin Palfrey]

I think the key to your system would work in any field

1. Show that you have looked at their site and done research
2. Show genuine interest
3. Try to help them, offer free advice
4. No sales pitch cr*p

I tried this approach today in my business (webdesign & SEO) and it worked a charm.

One bloke couldn't afford my services, but I gave him advice and tips anyway. 2 hours later I got an email from his friend who wants to spend a lot of money.

The original person I was helping phoned me back and asked me was it alright that he'd given my email address out, and offered to do any Joinery I may need. lol

It just shows the power of "taking an interest"

[vlduffy]

Very cool stratagy!

[madison_avenue]

Great work Maria: To those thinking the price is a bit high:

Yes in part, the client paid $1000 for a new self hosted site. But mainly, he paid for being alerted to the jeopardy he was placing his business in by relying on a free WordPress site, which could have been pulled at anytime potentially collapsing the business.

Maria had the good grace to point this out to him, and so prevented this disaster, set him up with a new web-site and did some SEO as well. There was also some project management involved, with part of the project being outsourced.

I think $1000 is quite a good deal for all of this.

[Folusho Orokunle]

WOW! I can't believe this is sill going. I love the Warrior Forum. It's posts like this that can really help people if they take action.

[Daniel Brock]

Wow. Huge price gauge on something that would take literally 30 minutes to do.

I guess if you can find someone willing to fork over the cash, then why not, right?

[Lisa Gergets]

Originally Posted by Maria Gudelis

Hmmm...2 hours of my time, net profit of $920...

All I've got to say is...ho. ly. crap.

You're amazing, Maria!

[Lisa Gergets]

Huge price gauge

Not at all - there's no price gouging going on! Your product or service is worth as much (or as little) as someone is willing to pay for it.

[Colin Palfrey]

It isn't a huge price gouge for 2 hours of work.

Here's why: She spend a long time learning her trade.

If a plummer stops water spraying across your floor in 5 minute do you complain about the price or respect their knowledge?

[Daniel Brock]

I think its a price gouge(learned how to spell a new word today) only because you could go to elance and put up a $50 offer to move your blog to a hosted server and you would have offers pouring in.

Now, obviously not everyone knows about elance or freelance sites - but is that knowledge of how to use a free lance site really worth $950?

I think I came up with an idea for my next product launch!

[Vince Runza Online]

Originally Posted by Daniel Brock

I think its a price gouge(learned how to spell a new word today) only because you could go to elance and put up a $50 offer to move your blog to a hosted server and you would have offers pouring in.

Now, obviously not everyone knows about elance or freelance sites - but is that knowledge of how to use a free lance site really worth $950?

I think I came up with an idea for my next product launch!

No, it's not a gouge. Here's why:

1. The blog owner had no idea that a "free" blog is at risk for disappearing.
2. Suppose someone pointed out the threat, but didn't offer to do the work.
3. The blog owner would have to have searched around and found out how to either move the blog himself or hire it done.
4. Either way, it would have taken time to do.

What is your time worth? Suppose it's worth $50 per hour. In only 20 hours of searching, joining elance and putting up a job offer, you'd be out $1,000 of your time. Never mind the $80 extra you'd have to spend to get the job done for you.

Also, keep in mind that the OP provided a complete solution that worked. Suppose the blog owner picked an outsource that screwed it up and had to hire someone else to fix it?

Be wary any time you say (or think), "All you have to do is...", because that phrase implies knowledge and ability another person may not have. Gaining knowledge and ability takes time.

Time is money.

So there!

Vince Runza

[TimCastleman]

Vince is right - knowledge takes time and money and that is what people pay you for. Plus people pay for value. If I have a good following and then it gets screwed up because my blog is gone then no amount of money can fix that.

People who equate money to time spent doing something are destine for a life of poverty.

[Vince Runza Online]

Originally Posted by TimCastleman

Vince is right

I think that's a very sensible attitude for you to have about me. No, really!

knowledge takes time and money and that is what people pay you for. Plus people pay for value. If I have a good following and then it gets screwed up because my blog is gone then no amount of money can fix that.

People who equate money to time spent doing something are destine[d] for a life of poverty.

Damned right! Those who don't value their time often end up being wage slaves to those who do.

[Daniel Brock]

Originally Posted by Vince Runza Online

No, it's not a gouge. Here's why:

1. The blog owner had no idea that a "free" blog is at risk for disappearing.
2. Suppose someone pointed out the threat, but didn't offer to do the work.
3. The blog owner would have to have searched around and found out how to either move the blog himself or hire it done.
4. Either way, it would have taken time to do.

What is your time worth? Suppose it's worth $50 per hour. In only 20 hours of searching, joining elance and putting up a job offer, you'd be out $1,000 of your time. Never mind the $80 extra you'd have to spend to get the job done for you.

Also, keep in mind that the OP provided a complete solution that worked. Suppose the blog owner picked an outsource that screwed it up and had to hire someone else to fix it?

Be wary any time you say (or think), "All you have to do is...", because that phrase implies knowledge and ability another person may not have. Gaining knowledge and ability takes time.

Time is money.

So there!

Vince Runza

I agree - I know that not everyone knows how to do a lot of the stuff outlined. My point is, is that type of work truly worth $500/hour? To some people, sure.

But I think you are blowing out of proportion the amount of search time required to do this. A simple google search of 'how to move a blog from wordpress.com' will provide you all the information you need.

Would it take 20 hours to figure that out? I highly doubt it.

All of the stuff about 'not knowing the risk of using a wordpress.com blog' is clearly outlined in the original email for free, so you cannot put a dollar value on that.

I'm also willing to bet that any web host out there will gladly move the files from wordpress.com for free just to get that client paying a monthly subscription fee.

And your comment:

"Suppose the blog owner picked an outsource that screwed it up and had to hire someone else to fix it?"

Suppose Maria screwed it up? Aren't they in the same exact situation? Obviously she didn't, but the buyer had no idea.

OK so sure, some people will pay for it...which is fine and dandy.

I am all for trying to get the most money from my clients as possible, but I think that $1000 for a 30 minute job is just a tad overboard...

How many lawyers out there get paid $2,000/hour? And they got to go to school for like 6 years to learn that...

[Daniel Brock]

Another thought. Theoretically speaking here...

Let's say a month later that same client is browsing the web and stumbles on a free lance site and sees that multiple people are offering the same exact service for say $100.

What do you think will go through their minds?

Something along the lines of 'man I got ripped off big time!'

[Vince Runza Online]

Originally Posted by Daniel Brock

I agree - I know that not everyone knows how to do a lot of the stuff outlined. My point is, is that type of work truly worth $500/hour? To some people, sure.

But I think you are blowing out of proportion the amount of search time required to do this. A simple google search of 'how to move a blog from wordpress.com' will provide you all the information you need.

You presume too much. Further, you fall into the trap of believing that everyone who "does Internet Marketing" is like a Warrior Forum member. They are not.

Would it take 20 hours to figure that out? I highly doubt it.

So what? Belief and "felt thought" are no substitute for testing and proving. I can tell you for sure that there are plenty of business owners who think they know IM who only know enough to make themselves dangerous.

All of the stuff about 'not knowing the risk of using a wordpress.com blog' is clearly outlined in the original email for free, so you cannot put a dollar value on that.

In fact, I'm betting that any web host out there will gladly move the files from wordpress.com for free just to get that client paying a monthly subscription fee.

That is astoundingly foolish. There are web hosts and developers who will gladly charge you for a phone inquiry! Once again, you are assuming much that is not proven to be a fact.

And your comment:

"Suppose the blog owner picked an outsource that screwed it up and had to hire someone else to fix it?"

Suppose Maria screwed it up? Aren't they in the same exact situation? Obviously she didn't, but the buyer had no idea.

No, Maria initiated the offer knowing full well how to do the work. If the blog owner had sought out an outsource who alleged he or she had the skill, that's a different situation.

Further, you are trying to defend your ideas with "felt thought": you have a feeling and are rationalizing it after the fact. That is bad thinking.

OK so sure, some people will pay for it...which is fine and dandy.

I am all for trying to get the most money from my clients as possible, but I think this is just a tad overboard...

No, you guess it's a tad overboard. Guesswork, assumptions, beliefs, etc. are no substitute for work, testing and proving by actually doing.

Perhaps you feel this aggrieved because you know that your own work isn't worth this kind of money -- yet. Hang in there, keep learning and working. You may just find that I am right, you are mistaken and nobody's to blame.

Vince Runza

[patwin]

Way to go Maria,

I joined WF in mid October. I've been hanging out in here for at least an hour each day and every single day, I get a OMG idea!

Thank you all so much - really love WF and all of you.

A few thoughts about the customer's mindset:

For those of you that express concern over 'ripoff' pricing - He's making so much money doing what he does, he's glad to meet such a quality human being as Maria to help him move forward with his successful WP site. And, he is offering her subsequent business on other projects.

He is definitely very fortunate to meet you Maria! Your introduction has been win-win to all concerned.

[Vince Runza Online]

BTW, if anybody wants to take a swipe at this model and doesn't have an idea where to start, do a Google search for make money online.

The #2 and #5 spots are BLOGSPOT blogs!

Vince Runza

[timeworks]

This is the kind of creativity that makes people money. Thanks for sharing this idea. This gets me thinking of other ways to make money like this.

[zapseo]

Man, just realized that this thread has been resurrected twice now.

I am highly skilled in webmastering. I'm not bad as a teacher, either (having taught, at one point, at Apple Computer.)

I have spent literally hours teaching people to do the simplest things.

Sure, some people can look things up on the Internet -- but it doesn't mean they'll understand them or have the confidence to do it themselves. And, with a valuable property -- it's important to have it done "professionally" rather than DIY.

I mean -- there are DIY on wiring your house -- do it wrong -- you can burn down your house or electrocute yourself. Some people -- rightly so -- simply don't want to take that risk.

Some people would look at the instructions for transferring a wordpress blog and be cross-eyed -- they'd be having to look up every other word (dashboard? What's that? Plugins? what are those? ftp -- what's that?). They have a few hurdles to overcome:
1/ can I understand it? 2/ do I understand it? 3/ what are the risks of doing it wrong.

Maria also indicated she sweetened her offer, as well as provided the business with extremely valuable information.

The value she provided was only partly in transferring the blog. It was also in knowing the tremendous risk the business was facing (big problem) coupled with the great potential (big benefit). Wouldn't you be grateful for something like that?

If it hadn't been worth it to the business person, they wouldn't have paid it.

There are ALL KINDS of things that people "know how to do" that are simple -- but it's how they got to the point of knowing that which was simple that is paid for.

A friend of mine, back in 1991, charged companies $1000 for a 1 line fix in a piece of software. He was a smalltalk expert. He "knew where to tap."

(and yah, I was a bit envious...LOL.)

Live JoyFully!

Judy

PS -- I will transfer blogs; upgrade blogs; convert blogs -- you can find my Warriors-For-Hire thread in my sig.

[Mike Murphy]

Maria offered a service to a person who lacked the skills to do what she got done for them. She offered them a price for her services that they had every right to refuse or counter offer but they took it. They could (and should) have also went and got a couple other quotes but didn't as they were satisfied with what she offered.

Yep, if they find this forum, she's hooped for sure but if they can't Google "set up my own blog" are they going to go looking for her? Not likely. They are probably happy to have had their "problem" taken care of.

[discrat]

Originally Posted by Daniel Brock

I agree - I know that not everyone knows how to do a lot of the stuff outlined. My point is, is that type of work truly worth $500/hour? To some people, sure.

But I think you are blowing out of proportion the amount of search time required to do this. A simple google search of 'how to move a blog from wordpress.com' will provide you all the information you need.

Would it take 20 hours to figure that out? I highly doubt it.

All of the stuff about 'not knowing the risk of using a wordpress.com blog' is clearly outlined in the original email for free, so you cannot put a dollar value on that.

I'm also willing to bet that any web host out there will gladly move the files from wordpress.com for free just to get that client paying a monthly subscription fee.

And your comment:

"Suppose the blog owner picked an outsource that screwed it up and had to hire someone else to fix it?"

Suppose Maria screwed it up? Aren't they in the same exact situation? Obviously she didn't, but the buyer had no idea.

OK so sure, some people will pay for it...which is fine and dandy.

I am all for trying to get the most money from my clients as possible, but I think that $1000 for a 30 minute job is just a tad overboard...

How many lawyers out there get paid $2,000/hour? And they got to go to school for like 6 years to learn that...

Yeah I am afraid to say I kind of side with this. It takes 1 minute to do a Google Search on how to switch Hosting. I recommend people do it more often so you can save hundreds if not thousands of dollars from people trying to take advantage of the situation !!

[William Gilreath]

Great post! Thank you for the advice. I am going to try that myself.

Thanks,
William

[zapseo]

Again, I'll repeat: not everyone has your technical ability or technical confidence.

I've done installs of wordpress configurations for a product where there was a video showing EXACTLY how to create that configuration.

And people were happy to pay.

Following something on the web -- sure, you can find it. But how do you know that the instructions are reliable? What does the person do if they get in trouble?

People have set up scripts incorrectly and then asked me what they did wrong. Unfortunately, that's not always an easy thing to answer. I don't try to "fix" what people broke. I just go in and do it right the first time.

When people hire me to do installs, what they get is not just the install. They also get the fact that it is trouble-free for them. It's one less thing they have to spend worrying about. One less thing they have to learn.

People have limited resources. How they choose to use those resources makes a big difference. If I am a mechanic, will I make more by learning how to do a task that I may do once in my life (transfer a wp blog) -- or by learning a skill that I can market to my customers over and over again (like, oh, I dunno -- I'm not a mechanic. Say, something that the mechanic could do to save someone gas...)

This is something that gets repeated over and over and over again: just because it may be easy for you to do, it's not necessarily easy for someone else. Even if a google search will bring up a video showing exactly what to do.

There are lots of people out there who only want to learn what pertains to their particular area (and it can be an excellent decision.); there can be people who are set in their ways and don't even want to learn, period.

I'm in Silicon Valley. Arguably, there should be more computer-literate people here than any place else, right? There's still a lot of people around here who know very, very little about computers. Some even know nothing.

It's easier if you've grown up with computers; not so easy for folks who haven't grown up around a technology. My life has been spent in computers, so, even though I am older, dealing with computers is easy. But people hand me cell phones from time to time, and I frequently have to ask -- "what button do I push?"

[mediamogul]

Once again great stuff Maria!

[IMproducts]

Originally Posted by Maria Gudelis

Hi all, just wanted to let you know on a 'test strategy' I did that got me a client paying $1,000 for about 2 hours of work (this includes getting the client and the execution of the work)

1. I noticed while doing some google searches that someone had page 1 ranking for a search term and it was a wordpress blog NOT hosted on their own domain - it was on wordpress (e.g. "thesearchterm.wordpress.com")

2. I emailed the owner of the wordpress blog 2 brief paragraphs saying basically:

- you have a nice site, ranking well on google page 1 except you have a major risk exposed to your business. Wordpress does not like companies hosting blogs on wordpress that are commercial and whether it is today, tomorrow, or in the near future, you are exposed to wordpress simply deleting your blog that must have taken a fair bit of energy to create. It happened to me once and cost me some money as I was ranking on google page 1 in number 1 position.

If you are interested, I can help you eliminate any risk of you losing your blog for a fee of $1,000. That would involve transferring it completely to your own hosted domain, you have full control now in the future and no one can then delete your blog!

Everything will be the same and as an added benefit, you can get better search engine optimization with added plug ins and I can also put an RSS feed onto your blog.

***
Now I know the above paragraphs are not 'ad copy' optimized - nevertheless, it worked,
1.The prospect said yes
2. I sent the company an invoice via paypal functionality
3. $1,000 came into my account and I got the info to log into the wordpress blog hosted on wordpress.

4. I spent 15 minutes on the phone helping him with a domain name to use.
5. He set up a namecheap acct. and a hosting acct. at dreamhost
6. I got the access info
7. I went over to scriptlance, posted a job description to transfer the existing wordpress hosted blog over to own hosted WP blog (including all the comments as his blog had a lot of user comments)
8. Cost of scriptlance resource- $80

Hmmm...2 hours of my time, net profit of $920...

Anyhow, hope it helps fire up some ideas to all of you and feel free to test out the fee you charge as one thing that is interesting, is I now am getting other work from that company so the continuity is an added benefit.

That's an amazing story, considering I just built a complete (A-Z) online affiliate marketing biz for a new client for $2000, and that included Social Media Package (Twitter, Facebook, Youtube), optimised blog with automated content, keyword research, niche selection, product selection in niche, opt-in page, 40 messages created in autoresponder series in Aweber, setup of semi-automated backlink getting system, setup of PPC campaigns.

It took me 4 full weeks (min. 100 hours) to set this whole thing up, and for 2 hours of work you earned $920 ;-) That's not fair. ;-)

Anyway, if anyone thinks my service is cool, I'd be interested to know if you would pay me $2000, send me a PM.

[IMproducts]

Originally Posted by Vince Runza Online

BTW, if anybody wants to take a swipe at this model and doesn't have an idea where to start, do a Google search for make money online.

The #2 and #5 spots are BLOGSPOT blogs!

Vince Runza

Brilliantly said Vince :-) Anyways, I think there will be trend to move blogs over to the self-hosted versions, and most people are not techies, so that means there is a HUGE market for this idea.

[snowtigress]

Hey, Maria. Congrats. Even though your email was not "ad copy" worthy (I know, I'm a copywriter), you nailed the right hot selling button. You hit the owner with a few emotionally packed lines (panic that he'd lose his site, desperation) and a readiness to spend money for a real solution. You gave him the fear and then offered the solution. Good job. If you DO have any ads out there and you're not ready to convert to the copywriting business, (please don't, you'd be stiff competition!), i'm happy to look over what you have. ~ Amy

[KatyaSenina]

Wow how did you got him to pay $1000? Did he mention that it was too much or did he agree instantly?

[Rich Muir]

Great example of thinking outside of the box. Well done

[SimonHarrison]

A guy takes his car to the mechanic , he can't get it to start, he's tried everything else, the mechanic says he can fix it for $100.

The guy's ecstatic, so says to go ahead.

The mechanic goes under the dash, and reconnects a faulty wiring loom, takes him 3 minutes.

Guy says , that's not fair, all you did was reconnect some wires and you wan't $100.

Mechanic says , you're not paying me for connecting the wire, your paying me for knowing where the wire was that need reconnecting.

===

Maria charged a guy a good sum of money because all of her experience and knowledge set a lightbulb off in her head that gave her the concept. It may have taken her only an hour of work to action the process but she's spent years understanding the craft allowing her to come up with the idea and knowing how to implement it.

If any of you feel awful at making a big margin, then hell - charge less...

[cyberchick]

Hi Maria,

Kudos to you for thinking outside the box. It's all about perceived value and no one asks twice about the charges dentists and lawyers charge, we simply pay them and for all we know they probably do a couple of hours work for a $2000 bill. So what, they studied their profession for years - but guess what, we do too, especially those who have been around for a while.

In the end there are two types of people; those who make their own destiny and those who complain about things because they are either too slack, they don't see the bigger picture or they simply are just negative by design.

I really don't understand why some people come in to the forum to abuse Maria for being so generous?

But hey, even more room for those who do run with this and make some nice cash.

Thank you
Monika

[cyberchick]

Originally Posted by Vince Runza Online

BTW, if anybody wants to take a swipe at this model and doesn't have an idea where to start, do a Google search for make money online.

The #2 and #5 spots are BLOGSPOT blogs!

Vince Runza

LOL Vince,

You NEVER get Griz to budge from his beloved and FREE blogspot blog. He's the guy in number two and he ROCKS.

Monika

[Kelly Verge]

For those who think Maria overcharged her client...

She said this job took her a total of two hours, including the outsourcing. $1000 / 120 minutes = $8.33 per minute.

Backing up and restoring a WP database takes 5 minutes at most if you know what you're doing. $80 / 5 minutes = $16 per minute.

Where's the outrage about the "overcharging" of the outsourcer?

This is definitely a "knowing where to tap" situation.

[TimCastleman]

I love people who say people are overcharging.

Here's the deal. The market decides what the going rate is. If they pay a $1,000 and are happy with it then there are no issues. If you don't want to pay that amount then they won't.


Now you can charge minimum wage if you want but I like to eat and make money.

[MichaelHiles]

Originally Posted by TimCastleman

I love people who say people are overcharging.

Here's the deal. The market decides what the going rate is. If they pay a $1,000 and are happy with it then there are no issues. If you don't want to pay that amount then they won't.


Now you can charge minimum wage if you want but I like to eat and make money.

This seems to be a trend here these days.

I never once thought I'd see the day that a marketing forum thinks profit is a bad idea.

These people need to go take up dog grooming or some other hobby and leave business to businesspeople.

[TimCastleman]

If you're not making money doing this -- it's a hobby, not a business.

[Maria Gudelis]

Originally Posted by Daniel Brock

Wow. Huge price gauge on something that would take literally 30 minutes to do.

I guess if you can find someone willing to fork over the cash, then why not, right?

30 minutes??

Methinks one should understand the offline client getting process (tis more than 30 minutes) and the investment of your time is what you put a price on your time for...

...are you worth $10 an hour or $350, or $1,000 an hour -

- how much time have you spent just on the WF alone honing your skills, learning new up to date 'what's working now' internet marketing strategies (from SEO to conversions to branding to info product creation...the goldmine in this WF goes on and on)...

...you can't put a price on the above - it is PRICELESS and please - don't forget that anyone reading this...

your education and knowledge (IP Intellectual Property) in your head is worth A LOT to other business owners, client period.

Never underestimate that...

in this particular clients case - it is the ROI that makes the difference and the company received FAR more than $1,000 back in ROI....

Just one of his clients (customer life time value) is worth over $5,000 ....

hmmmm....

now I just wanted everyone to look at 'consulting' with a new perspective..

How much money will your solution/consulting services MAKE for that client????

e.g a realtor - if your 'social media package' you charge $3,000 for gets him/her a $500,000 listing in 24 hours after you implement....

hmmm...3% of $500,000 is $15,000

...and that is from ONE listing the realtor gets..now that you have created

"EVERGREEN" real virtual assets for them (not a $3,000 ad expense one shot deal on a newspaper ad) ...

that work you charged a measly fee for....keeps on giving and increasing the Return on Investment for that client..

This is why YOU getting into offline consulting is one of the Ultimate Business Models now to get in...

Tell me any stock investment one can invest $1,000 and make $5,000 over and over again as a result of YOUR Intellectual Property - YOUR knowledge...

the FACT you are reading this right now...

the FACT you are in this Warrior Forum right now...

MEANS you know more than 99% of all local business owners out there TODAY!

So my question to you is this...when will you get in on this and start creating some REAL results for you and your clients...

Sorry for the rant...just had to get the message out

Because you are undervaluing yourself if you really seriously think $1,000 is expensive -

Change your mindset, change your life.

The $1,000 involves key elements of a successful business

The lifecyle of an offline consulting firm:

1. Customer orientation
2. Customer acquisition
3. Customer Fulfillment (customer service)
4. Back to Customer orientation - revisit / review/ analyze results to improve and add more revenue streams (offline continuity)

You become the client's strategic partner that helps you, helps them and it does indeed take more than 30 minutes...

It isn't the execution...it is the CUSTOMER RELATIONSHIP you create....

Whew - hope you get the drift...

You are all truly DNA coded for greatness...the first step is for you to believe it!

[Maria Gudelis]

Originally Posted by cyberchick

Hi Maria,

Kudos to you for thinking outside the box. It's all about perceived value and no one asks twice about the charges dentists and lawyers charge, we simply pay them and for all we know they probably do a couple of hours work for a $2000 bill. So what, they studied their profession for years - but guess what, we do too, especially those who have been around for a while.

In the end there are two types of people; those who make their own destiny and those who complain about things because they are either too slack, they don't see the bigger picture or they simply are just negative by design.

I really don't understand why some people come in to the forum to abuse Maria for being so generous?

But hey, even more room for those who do run with this and make some nice cash.

Thanks you
Monika

Thanks Monika - guess it is just a mind set and you are right....more room then to run with it and make $$

[JackPowers]

Great story Maria!

I could only see this work with low-tech self owned businesses. There's a lot of money in the crafts and many of these guys have no clue whatsoever about how to use the internet. Any office would naturally have an IT guy or two.

What I take away from your story is how important 'perception' on the part of the customer is. Your client would indeed rather pay $1,000 than attempt to move a blog.

[Maria Gudelis]

Originally Posted by JackPowers

Great story Maria!

I could only see this work with low-tech self owned businesses. There's a lot of money in the crafts and many of these guys have no clue whatsoever about how to use the internet. Any office would naturally have an IT guy or two.

What I take away from your story is how important 'perception' on the part of the customer is. Your client would indeed rather pay $1,000 than attempt to move a blog.

Jack here is the interesting thing to note - yes I agree for low tech businesses...

however...the biggies need it too - it will suprise you how much they DON'T KNOW...

seriously, this client is a very sophisticated (has a $60,000 CRM software installed - Siebel) and an IT department with very knowledgeable staff...they just don't understand how all the new web 2.0 stuff works!

Or cut their budgets to only focus on core stuff and not hire a 'social media expert'..

more opportunity for us

[AmyBrown]

Originally Posted by JackPowers

Great story Maria!

I could only see this work with low-tech self owned businesses. There's a lot of money in the crafts and many of these guys have no clue whatsoever about how to use the internet. Any office would naturally have an IT guy or two.

That's a huge assumption and in my experience not at all accurate. Most small businesses and many mid-sized businesses do not have a dedicated IT staff. Those that do have an IT staff utilize the staff for help desk and server maintenance, not blogs or web design and certainly not any type of marketing.