Running Out of IP Addresses?

tamiro1992

14 years ago

haha i find that really funny and awesome at the same time. just shows how the internet developed in the past 10 years! more and more people get them and now they are running out. SWEET! thanks for sharing

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bgmacaw

14 years ago

It's correct although it probably won't mean disaster. What it will mean is a lot more shared IPv4 addresses as the IPv6 addresses wait to come online.

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kiopa Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by bgmacaw

It's correct although it probably won't mean disaster. What it will mean is a lot more shared IPv4 addresses as the IPv6 addresses wait to come online.

They've been doing the shared thing for over a decade now. For example, with HostGator right now? The IP of your domain is probably the same as 200 other domains out there right now. They've relaxed it in the past few years for whatever reasons, but before, almost all hosts required justification to assign you additional IPs. Nowadays, they don't seem too bothered by it though.

Does surprise me how little prepared people & businesses are for the upcoming change though. It definitely won't be a disaster, but just moreless, nobody is going to worry about it until it's an actual problem. Once it's a problem, every business will switch almost overnight.

So there'll be a bit of a hiccup, but hardly a disaster.
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tamiro1992

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bgmacaw

It's correct although it probably won't mean disaster. What it will mean is a lot more shared IPv4 addresses as the IPv6 addresses wait to come online.

disaster? nah, its just more numbers. u can always invent more numbers to make more ip adresses right?

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kiopa

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by tamiro1992

disaster? nah, its just more numbers. u can always invent more numbers to make more ip adresses right?

Yes, but problem comes in when every ISP and hosting company in the world has to update all their servers & processes to serve & maintain those numbers. Almost nobody is setup for it yet. They're two completely different formats of numbers. For example, you go from 24.168.10.124 (IPv4 -- now) to 3ffe:1900:4545:3:200:f8ff:fe21:67cf (IPv6 -- in about 8 - 10 months).

Trust me, that's alot of companies who don't have things setup to take care of the new format of IPs.

Again though, no worries. As always, companies will wait until the last minute, then scramble like mad to get everything transitioned over. There'll be a few large ones in the game, who do it beforehand though.

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tamiro1992

14 years ago

Originally Posted by kiopa

Yes, but problem comes in when every ISP and hosting company in the world has to update all their servers & processes to serve & maintain those numbers. Almost nobody is setup for it yet. They're two completely different formats of numbers. For example, you go from 24.168.10.124 (IPv4 -- now) to 3ffe:1900:4545:3:200:f8ff:fe21:67cf (IPv6 -- in about 8 - 10 months).

Trust me, that's alot of companies who don't have things setup to take care of the new format of IPs.

Again though, no worries. As always, companies will wait until the last minute, then scramble like mad to get everything transitioned over. There'll be a few large ones in the game, who do it beforehand though.

does it cost companies a lot of time/money to do this? or are their servers down during the update or something? i mean im sure its worth it for the companies to do it but does it hurt them in any way?

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kiopa

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by tamiro1992

does it cost companies a lot of time/money to do this? or are their servers down during the update or something? i mean im sure its worth it for the companies to do it but does it hurt them in any way?

When they have 5000 servers / nodes / routers to apply it to, then yeah, it can cost a bit. Obviously, companies don't want to spend that money, but they're not going to have a choice in the matter in the coming future. Spend the money, or go offline. Take your pick.

Not to mention alot of the smart phones and other internet connected devices out there will be out of date within 24 months. None of them are setup for IPv6, that I know of at least (I could be wrong on this).

Again, it's no worries, and business will adapt. But yeah, I'm sure it'll cause a hiccup in things. For example, just Google for a list of hosting companies who are offering hosting on IPv6 right now. There's maybe a dozen that I can find, and that's it. Thing is, it's pointless to host on IPv6 right now, because 99.95% of ISPs out there don't recognize / support IPv6 addresses right now, so nobody will be able to see your site.

One of those catch-22 things... I have to look into it more, but I'm sure there's a host out there who can offer you both, IPv4 and IPv6 IP addresses, to ensure a smoothless transition for your sites.

Hey, you niche guys! There's your next niche! Get ready for the next Y2K, and enstill some fear! Get them to go for your hosting, because you'll take them through a smooth transition from IPv4 to IPv6. Loads of money to be made there!

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mywebwork

14 years ago

Actually it's amazing that this didn't happen 5 years ago.

There was incredible foresight by those who came up with the original TCP/IP "dotted decimal" addressing scheme. The network it was designed for in the 70's, the ARPANET (forerunner of the modern Internet) had less than 100 hosts on it, yet they came up with an addressing scheme capable of 4 billion addresses. Talk about design overkill!

The transition to IPV6 has been going on for nearly a decade now so it should be pretty smooth. I wouldn't get too concerned about it causing problems.

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TCrosby

14 years ago

The thing is, this would still be a long ways off had the IP addresses been more frugally distributed. Large ranges were given all the time to organizaitons/people who only need a few addresses. They thought the amount available meant they would never run out, so they saw no need to handle them precisely

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kiopa

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by TCrosby

The thing is, this would still be a long ways off had the IP addresses been more frugally distributed. Large ranges were given all the time to organizaitons/people who only need a few addresses.

Yeah, I'm not sure what happened there. Years ago, they were very strict on assigning IPs. ARIN required completed IP Justification Forms for all IPs, so all hosting companies required this from their customers as well. Back then, you couldn't just say, "give me 8 new IPs". You needed to fill out a form, giving a valid reason & use for each new IP.

Nobody seems to care anymore though. Not sure what happened there, but they're handing out IPs like mad now. My client just had a new box come online with 30 IPs assigned to it, and it's just for a single landing page! If one IP gets blacklisted, we switch to the next IP.

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buckz55

14 years ago

Well I think they are going to start cracking down on all the proxies & bots out there that take up 10% of the IP's

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