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Tread Lightly When Using Newspaper Content If You Don't Want To Get Sued

by Charles Harper
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I saw this in wired and seems to have some relevance to at least some of the discussion in the now infamous Epic thread on backlinking, etc.

Here is the article:

Newspaper Chain's New Business Plan: Copyright Suits | Threat Level | Wired.com

Thoughts?

CT
#content #lightly #newspaper #tread
  • Profile picture of the author Mike Grant
    The exact reason the courts are so backed up...
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  • Profile picture of the author pcpupil
    I wonder if all the 7,000 some articles on Ezine that are titled:
    get my ex back,are original content?
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    • Profile picture of the author steve995
      This is why every training product you see tells you to rewrite the content 'in your own words'. Read it, inwardly digest and then regurgitate the main points of the story without referring to the original.

      It's not that tough...

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      • Profile picture of the author Edk
        Originally Posted by steve995 View Post

        This is why every training product you see tells you to rewrite the content 'in your own words'. Read it, inwardly digest and then regurgitate the main points of the story without referring to the original.

        It's not that tough...

        Steve
        Yeah. It's the height of darned laziness to go lifting stuff wholesale.
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        • Profile picture of the author Charles Harper
          Originally Posted by Edk View Post

          Yeah. It's the height of darned laziness to go lifting stuff wholesale.
          I don't think we are talking about lifting stuff wholesale here in this article are we?

          CT
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          • Profile picture of the author psresearch
            Originally Posted by Charles Harper View Post

            I don't think we are talking about lifting stuff wholesale here in this article are we?

            CT
            It did look like it was about wholesale lifting of articles.
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            • Profile picture of the author koolphoto
              I have commented about this problem in the past. I think many on the internet need to understand basic copyright law before they grab stories, text, graphics, images etc. Many people are under the misconception that because it is on the internet it is public domain. This is just not true. As the internet becomes more and more commercialized copyright infringement is going to become more of a problem. I think this story should be an eye opener about what to expect in the future.

              I think auto blogging is eventually going to be a thing of the past because many companies are going to police their content more thoroughly. If you are going to lift content from anywhere you need to know the consequences, otherwise, you can find yourself with a lawsuit. And it won't help you in the courts if you where not aware of the legalities of taking content.
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              • Profile picture of the author steve995
                Originally Posted by koolphoto View Post

                I think auto blogging is eventually going to be a thing of the past because many companies are going to police their content more thoroughly. If you are going to lift content from anywhere you need to know the consequences, otherwise, you can find yourself with a lawsuit. And it won't help you in the courts if you where not aware of the legalities of taking content.
                Absolutely spot on.
                In days to come - and we are probably talking days - autoblogging is going to hit the skids. As soon as nonsense like this becomes mainstream, it's already in the truck heading for the knackers yard.
                But that's just my opinion, and what do I know?
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              • Profile picture of the author ~kev~
                Originally Posted by koolphoto View Post

                I think many on the internet need to understand basic copyright law before they grab stories, text, graphics, images etc.
                Yep, it seems to me that once people leave high school, or college, they forget everything they learned about copyright, and plagiarism.

                Most teachers in school tell their students "do no copy other peoples work" - and there is a reason for that.

                I do not understand what the problem is, if its not yours, dont touch it. That is the same thing I tell my kids.
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                • Profile picture of the author edd666666
                  I know of a blog where the blogger states something like "Here is an article from x site(he gives url of original site) then reprints the full article as part of the blog, keeping all credit, links, etc from the original article he copied. So he is giving full credit to the source and reprinting the article as it appeared with no attempt to call it his own. Is this a no no? Thanks, Ed
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                  • Profile picture of the author tpw
                    Originally Posted by edd666666 View Post

                    I know of a blog where the blogger states something like "Here is an article from x site(he gives url of original site) then reprints the full article as part of the blog, keeping all credit, links, etc from the original article he copied. So he is giving full credit to the source and reprinting the article as it appeared with no attempt to call it his own. Is this a no no? Thanks, Ed
                    Without explicit written permission to reprint from the copyright holder (newspaper company), it is a no-no...

                    My local small town newspaper company has this on its website:

                    © 2010 Community Newspaper Holdings, Inc. · CNHI Classified Advertising Network · CNHI News Service
                    Associated Press content © 2010. All rights reserved. AP content may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
                    Although they seem to exclude their own content from the prohibited list, I would not do anything with it, without express written permission...

                    The Daily Oklahoman in Oklahoma City says this:

                    You may not modify, publish, transmit, participate in the transfer or sale, create derivative works, or in any way exploit any of the content included in the Services, in whole or in part. You may download copyrighted material for your personal use only.

                    Read more: NewsOK Terms of Use | NewsOK.com
                    Even content on websites should be treated with the same level of respect... Unless you find the Terms Of Reprint, I would not touch it with a ten-foot pole...

                    I deal in Free Reprint Articles, as my business model, but that simply means in our case that you can Reprint the content without financial cost, so long as you honor all of the other Terms Of Reprint, especially where it says the author's resource box and links must stay with the article at all times...

                    I know that I do have customers, who are more than willing to pursue any webmaster that uses his or her content, outside of the scope of the stated Terms Of Reprint.... In other words, if you leave off their Author Resource Box and links, they will get their attorney on the phone...

                    But right is right... And wrong will always be wrong...

                    Make sure that you know the Terms Of Use for any and all content you want to use, and make sure that you honor those terms to the letter....
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  • Profile picture of the author John Wilkes
    Wow! I thought newspaper stories were in the Public Domain, or is that just in the UK?
    What about news feeds on blogs like Google or WP-Robot?
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    • Profile picture of the author Exfilius
      Originally Posted by John Wilkes View Post

      Wow! I thought newspaper stories were in the Public Domain, or is that just in the UK?
      What about news feeds on blogs like Google or WP-Robot?
      Internet is not exactly a newspaper, or something that you can see on a TV.

      People who copypasta content deserve to be sued. It's not hard to extract the same thought out of the article and put it in your own words.
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    • Profile picture of the author mainstreetcm
      Originally Posted by John Wilkes View Post

      Wow! I thought newspaper stories were in the Public Domain, or is that just in the UK?
      What about news feeds on blogs like Google or WP-Robot?
      Newspaper articles are not in the public domain. Its the reason you can't use news from the AP without a business subscription with them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jake Howard
    Hi All

    I am hoping that someone might be able to give me some advice, as I place articles from newspapers on my site.

    What I do, is copy the first couple of sentences as a feeder, and if anyone wants to read the full article, they get taken to the sources actual website where the article is hosted. Pretty much the same as an RSS Feed.

    Is this legal?

    Also, if a newspaper has an RSS feed, are they basically giving you permission to pretty much do whatever you want with it?
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Originally Posted by Charles Harper View Post

    I saw this in wired and seems to have some relevance to at least some of the discussion in the now infamous Epic thread on backlinking, etc.

    Here is the article:

    Newspaper Chain's New Business Plan: Copyright Suits | Threat Level | Wired.com

    Thoughts?

    CT
    We should not be pulling articles out of newspapers anyway and running them on our websites, without explicit permission to do so...

    If you want to use an article from any source, you should check the terms of reprint for it, then make sure you honor the terms as defined by the copyright holder...

    p.s. This guy defined his business as a practice, so he must be an attorney looking to cash in on your success online and the newspaper company's fear of bankruptcy...
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