Full-time Income Using Article Marketing

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I was wondering if one could make a full-time income using article marketing alone in a niche saturated by marketers using the same keywords? Is this possible with consistent article marketing, or would you hit a plateau?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kathy584
    In my experience, it would be difficult to make a full-time income using article marketing only. If you build links to your better articles, and send potential customers to a sign-up page and collect names/list build, you'll get closer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dean Shainin
    Originally Posted by javabeans View Post

    I was wondering if one could make a full-time income using article marketing alone in a niche saturated by marketers using the same keywords? Is this possible with consistent article marketing, or would you hit a plateau?
    What would a full time income be for you?

    A saturated niche with everyone using the same keywords can make life much more difficult without the proper research.

    Everyone has a different idea of a full time income. In my world I make a full time income from article marketing but I live the simple life. I don't have 3 cars in my drive, a massive mortgage and 3 children to support. Also, I've built many residual streams of income because I don't like depending upon any one method online. An example would be my 220 made for AdSense sites that got whacked a couple years ago from Google. It would have been a REALLY heavy blow if that's all I was doing.

    Whatever you decide to do it's wise to build a list no matter which niche you go into as already mentioned early in this thread.

    To YOUR Success,
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    • Profile picture of the author javabeans
      Originally Posted by Dean Shainin View Post

      What would a full time income be for you?
      A full-time income for me would be greater than $4000 per month.
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      • Profile picture of the author connorbringas
        I cant imagine article writing getting anyone 4k a month..someone explain to me how this is possible.
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        • Profile picture of the author rainyclayday
          Originally Posted by connorbringas View Post

          I cant imagine article writing getting anyone 4k a month..someone explain to me how this is possible.
          This is possible by writing good quality keyword-optimized articles using well-researched keywords with a resource box at the end that people will click on, leading them to either a product with a well-written high-converting sales page or a squeeze page that gathers emails for a list (which you later use to sell your products to).
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          • Profile picture of the author kingprosperity
            It's definitely possible. But why you want to live your life fully on article marketing? Article Marketing is the fastest way to make money and what I think is that it can provide you enough money to establish some other business.

            Open restaurant, small cafes, coffee shops... Earn from Article Marketing, then invest in some other business. Not only full time living, you can have the best out of your life. Other things will provide you more fruitful money. It's all about increasing business. And other businesses can even make you a billionaire. It's all about how you use your mind.

            Definitely you can make full time income. even 20 K a month possible. I would love to invest my article marketing money in other things and become the owner/CEO rather than putting my whole life in making e books or as an affiliate.
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          • Profile picture of the author ebizman87
            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            (Even I don't work for $133 per day, and I'm 20).
            You're 20 but the way you behave or communicate in this forum looks
            like you've been marketing for 10-15 years online by sharing your point of view.. BUT in the end you're just 20 years old gal...
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            • Profile picture of the author Aira Bongco
              Originally Posted by ebizman87 View Post

              You're 20 but the way you behave or communicate in this forum looks
              like you've been marketing for 10-15 years online by sharing your point of view.. BUT in the end you're just 20 years old gal...
              I think that age has nothing to do with how much a person learns. It depends on the person really. Some people may be marketing their products online for 15 years but they still know nothing about SEO and other basic concepts. I know this because I have encountered such people in the past.

              It all boils down to how much you keep on trying. These experiences pile up and you learn.
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  • Profile picture of the author reynoldscorb
    The top article on Ezine has had over 2.2 millions views. At the end of the article, there's an affiliate link.

    I wouldn't be surprised if that guy is making a full time income just from ONE article he wrote. It's definitely possible to make a lot from article marketing.
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    • Profile picture of the author MarketAbel
      Originally Posted by reynoldscorb View Post

      The top article on Ezine has had over 2.2 millions views. At the end of the article, there's an affiliate link.

      I wouldn't be surprised if that guy is making a full time income just from ONE article he wrote. It's definitely possible to make a lot from article marketing.
      The thing to remember is... He didn't write just that ONE article. Success can and will come, but it won't be easy and it won't happen overnight. This is ofcourse for us 97%'ers who aren't in the 3% Elite.
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      • Profile picture of the author jamespitt
        Article Marketing is dynamic. I believe it gives one an income you see just believe in what you do as I did. If people you have time you can always ask me.

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  • Profile picture of the author mainstreetcm
    Originally Posted by javabeans View Post

    I was wondering if one could make a full-time income using article marketing alone in a niche saturated by marketers using the same keywords? Is this possible with consistent article marketing, or would you hit a plateau?
    If you do some keyword research and then promote related affiliate in your articles you could make some cash. I don't know about full-time income, but I had a pretty good month with this kind of marketing last month. I use hubpages though, and some people don't consider that article marketing...
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    • I've started making regular sales with just Hubpages & an Affiliate link, currently working on a golden keyword I found.

      Now I'm getting paranoid that Hubpages are going to ban my account (Dont know why)

      Is it definately ok to promote Clickbank Products on Hubpages? I only ever create 1-2 links per article.

      Would really like to know.
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        • Profile picture of the author Lisa Gergets
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          It's because you're feeling nervous that you don't own and control a "money-site" and will be permanently subject to someone else's terms of service, changeable interpretations of them, and your whole business from that site might suddenly disappear if you have an accident there, because you've based an income-source on property that someone else owns, rather than yourself. And you're right.
          WOOT!

          And, Bingo.
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      • Profile picture of the author mainstreetcm
        Originally Posted by GoodnightSweetRatRace View Post

        Now I'm getting paranoid that Hubpages are going to ban my account (Dont know why)
        If you are providing valuable content that isn't copied from another article or website you really don't have anything to worry about with Hubpages. I have a pretty large network of hubs and I haven't had a single one flagged for being too promotional or marked as spam.

        So as long as you are following their content guidelines you have absolutely nothing to worry about. You certainly won't make a full time income from your hubs though.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    As a matter of fact, you can make full time income from article marketing alone but certainly not from any kind of niche. You will need a microscopic eye to find niches where you can survive with article marketing alone.
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  • Profile picture of the author leclaims
    You can certainly earn a good living, there is no question about that. The only question is how hard are you willing to work for it. If you think you can submit an article here and there, and expect to get to the top in a week, think again. If you think the income will come pouring in over night, think again.

    A saturated market will be tough to tap into, but it can be done. You'll just have to work extra hard at it. Build back links, network, build your own content, and when you've done them all, start over and do them again.

    Stick with it and it will happen, good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author mainstreetcm
      Originally Posted by leclaims View Post

      You can certainly earn a good living, there is no question about that. The only question is how hard are you willing to work for it. If you think you can submit an article here and there, and expect to get to the top in a week, think again. If you think the income will come pouring in over night, think again.

      A saturated market will be tough to tap into, but it can be done. You'll just have to work extra hard at it. Build back links, network, build your own content, and when you've done them all, start over and do them again.

      Stick with it and it will happen, good luck.
      I definitely agree that this won't happen overnight. I have roughly 600 hubs targeting all kinds of different keywords and I didn't see success until the last few months. It's all about volume and going after keywords you know you can rank for.
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  • Profile picture of the author remodeler
    I think you can do it, but be prepared for a lot of work ahead of you. Consistency is definitely the key.
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  • Profile picture of the author MrDay
    I think it's possible but it would take a lot of consistent writing and effort on your part.

    If you have your own blog and or sites, then you could write the same articles and give your sites/blog backlinks at the same time. Plus having a blog/sites will give you more credibility.
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    • Profile picture of the author webwriter
      I'm sure that making a full-time income from article marketing is possible, but doing that is really taking the long, long road and by the time you make it, you're too old to enjoy the income from it.

      So why not take a shorter cut and write articles and get them published the traditional way? Doing that, you can earn hundreds or even thousands of dollars just for one article and spend far less time doing it. Plus, you can expand your published articles into one or more books and make even more money.

      For awhile, I made good money writing and selling education-related articles ---- hundreds of dollars. Then I organized the most pertinent articles into chapters for a book and eventually got the book published.

      If you're going to put all of that effort into writing articles, why not make it worth your while? It probably takes up twice as much time to write an article and earn a dollar from it than writing a regular article and being paid hundreds of dollars for it.

      Just my opinion.........
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  • Profile picture of the author mattlaclear
    It's certainly possible to earn a full time living offering article marketing services to other marketers for seo purposes. Which is the same thing you're looking to do if you think about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author zuberr
    Article Marketing may not be as easy as it used to be a few years ago, but it still has the potential of making you a full-time income if done properly, with a little innovation. For example, submitting RSS feeds of your articles to RSS directories. You don't have to be stuck with one keyword, try many others. Maybe another keyword can hit #1 position with less efforts and is equally profitable than the one you chose.
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  • Profile picture of the author NicoleBeckett
    Sure it's possible. Like some of the others have said, you're going to have to do some serious keyword research before you start, though.

    Article marketing is kind of like a snowball. It may take awhile for it to get going, but once you build up momentum, it can become huge.

    The key is to be patient. I've had people ask my why, after publishing 8 or 10 articles, they aren't seeing giant results. It takes time. Will you be making a full-time income in a few weeks? No. But, the great thing about article marketing is, the content is always out there. Months or years from now, someone could find your article, love it, and become a very loyal customer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lisa Gergets
    Not a chance in hell save for a select few.

    Never put all your eggs in one basket. If that basket falls, all your eggs break and you go hungry.

    Diversify your income streams and that way if one of them goes flat, you have others to float you while you replace it.

    Work smart!
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  • Profile picture of the author Lisa Gergets
    Because mostly, people use article marketing to promote affiliate sites.

    Now, using affiliate marketing to promote your OWN products is a toooooootally different story.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lisa Gergets
      Originally Posted by John McEachern View Post

      What about that JayXtreme fella, who has something over 4,000 posts on this forum? As far as I know, all he does is promote affiliate sites and is making a ton of cash. From what I understand, he quit promoting his own IM instructional products to focus more on promoting affiliate sites.

      Why, in your view, can't someone make a bunch of money promoting Clickbank, Amazon, Commission Junction, etc. products (if this is what you mean by "affiliate sites")?
      Like I said, there are a select few that can make that work. That said, it shouldn't be the end-all-be-all for the masses.

      Now, I never said someone CAN'T do that, just that it is unlikely. It takes WORK and in my experience, most that attempt to explore the world of IM leave when they realize how much work is involved.
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  • Profile picture of the author mkmossop
    I was actually about to come here and ask the same thing.

    I'm basically down to my last efforts here to make some money online.

    To me, it definitely seems VERY possible to make say $2000 a month from article marketing alone (that would be enough to sustain me personally for the moment).

    Like Alexa said about, even $4000 a month is only $133 a day, which is say about 4 affiliate sales, depending on what you're selling of course... doesn't seem overly difficult with enough articles out there.

    I've been writing about 4 articles a day for the past two weeks (not ****e articles... well written and good info) and have done proper keyword research in the hopes of getting them ranked.

    At the end of each article I have a direct link to an affiliate offer (bought a domain, forwarded and masked it so it's ok for EzineArticles).

    I have a couple questions I'd really appreciate some help with though.

    1. In my author signature should I include something like "mkmossop has studied fitness and nutrition for the past 10 years... etc etc"... or, should I forgo that and simply link directly to the offer, i.e. "Watch the following presentation to discover 5 foods that fight abdominal fat... link"?

    As of now I have both of those, the info about me coming after the affiliate link.

    2. I'm submitting these to EzineArticles as they have the best chance of ranking. Would using an article submitter/spinner harm my chances of getting ranked?

    It seems to me that using a good article submitter could massively increase your affiliate trafficif it's going out to say 100 article directories. Good idea or bad idea?

    3. At say 4 well written articles a day, and good keyword research, at what point might I start seeing some returns?

    Thank you for any help!
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      • Profile picture of the author regska
        You can make money with article marketing, but not sure if you can sustain it in the long run. If you're looking for a living from article marketing alone, I'm not sure if it can support your lifestyle in the future. As they say, "never put all your eggs n one basket". In Business, the key to become a successful businessman, when when you have several passive income streams, that means you still need to build several income streams to make a living online or offline.

        Instead of just focusing on making money with article marketing alone, you can use article marketing to earn from other things as well, like driving your visitors to a squeeze page and build your list through article marketing.

        Whatever you do online, focus on building your list. Don't focus on making money in the beginning, you should focus on building a list. Then making money with thousands of responsive subscribers would be much more easier instead of writing and submitting article on a daily basis and hoping to earn money with those articles.
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      • Profile picture of the author mkmossop
        Thanks for the long response Alexa .

        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        I think you'll do much better with just the call to action, and make it look like a continuation and the last sentence of the article rather than a "separate item"; remember: you decide where the article ends and the resource box begins: it's not so apparent to readers (in fact, at EZA in particular, it's barely apparent to them at all).

        (You can always mention in passing in the text of the article that you've studied fitness and nutrition for 10 years, by putting on the start of some sentence as "Over my 10 years' study and research of fitness and nutrition, I've noticed/discovered/realized that ..." or something similar.)
        Well I suppose I'll just leave the part about me in my main author bio then and leave it out of the author signature.

        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        You'll do very much better (especially in that niche!) if the "direct link" is to your own site, rather than to an affiliate offer, though, for three reasons:-

        (i) It's a very competitive niche indeed, and that's what so many others in the niche are doing. You need to "add value" to just a sales offer of the type which readers of your articles will have seen 100 times before (don't imagine that your articles will be the first they've read on the subject);

        (ii) Without at least a landing page/squeeze page, you're depriving yourself of the opportunity to build a list, and therefore leaving most of the money on the table;

        (iii) Without some sort of website between your article and the offer (even it's just a one-page bloggy-type site), you're depriving yourself of the chance to pre-sell the product - remember that different affiliates' conversion-rates (and refund rates) for the same product(s) can be radically different according to how well they've pre-sold with a "review"/"personal story" or whatever.
        It's not the only niche I'm doing... I just happen to know a lot about it which is why I've chosen it as one of my niches.

        I'm direct linking to the affiliate offer because it's easier obviously, and well I don't really know how to pre-sell a product. And the thing about the product pre-sell is that if you mess that up (and there seem to be a huge amount of variables that go into this) then you've lost the sale. Plus I'd have to create a pre-sales page for every offer I'm doing. Maybe I'm over-complicating things, I don't know.

        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        It shouldn't change your chances of getting articles ranked, but spinning - unless so well done that it becomes as time-consuming as writing another article instead - may reduce both your chances of getting them accepted by EZA and your CTR and sales. In my opinion.


        It'll increase your backlinks. Whether it'll increase your traffic is another matter altogether. In my 9 niches (which don't include yours) I find that 95% of the traffic comes from the top 6/7 directories, and submitting to more than that is really "backlinks only" (though that is of course a benefit in itself - as long as you have a site to which to backlink, of course!).
        May I ask what these article directories are ? Or are they niche specific?

        Thanks again!
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          • Profile picture of the author kingprosperity
            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            Sounds fine to me. You can always mention it in the article text, though, for "added credibility" but in the resource box you need just a "call to action", I think ...



            That knowledge and experience can help you to build an authority site. It won't be easy to make sales in that niche without one, because your competitors have one. Or at least a "site", if not an "authority site". But one of the (pretty effortless) things that helps a "site" to become an "authority site" is just putting all your articles on it and having them indexed there (before you submit them to EZA!) which takes no time at all, since you're either writing or buying the articles anyway.



            I hear you. Unfortunately, though, the fact that it's easier doesn't help it to produce sales.



            Product reviews and personal stories are the two easy ways.



            At least if you try a pre-sell, you can honestly refer to it as "the sale": without that, it's just a theoretical sale you never really had in the first place.



            This is true. But they take half a day to do (if that).



            It seems to me you're oversimplifying them, if you don't mind my saying so.

            The two essentials of making money out of affiliate sales by article marketing are (i) building a list (otherwise you're leaving most of the money on the table) and (ii) pre-selling.



            I don't know your niche well enough to know any niche-specific ones. But here's a list of the top 50 general article directories by traffic, page-rank, etc.
            Alexa... I have question... I will be thankful if you answer me.

            I many times noticed you about putting content on your site first. Ok but if we put content on our website on constant basis then don't you think that the buyer will change his mind because there is already too much content available for him?

            Landing page for collection e-addresses I am understanding. But filling your site with multiple contents ??? can't it change the mind of buyers?

            It's just a thing in my mind... I will be thankful if you answer me this.
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            • Profile picture of the author Aira Bongco
              Originally Posted by kingprosperity View Post

              Alexa... I have question... I will be thankful if you answer me.

              I many times noticed you about putting content on your site first. Ok but if we put content on our website on constant basis then don't you think that the buyer will change his mind because there is already too much content available for him?

              Landing page for collection e-addresses I am understanding. But filling your site with multiple contents ??? can't it change the mind of buyers?

              It's just a thing in my mind... I will be thankful if you answer me this.
              Hey,

              I know that I am not the one that should be answering but I will go ahead and pitch in.

              The key is to let your visitor focus on one thing at a time. So if you are collecting emails, let them focus on the opt-in box. Make it as big as possible.

              So you may wonder what is content for? It is for driving traffic to your website through the various rankings you may acquire for long tail keywords. Of course, it goes without saying that you should optimize your articles well.

              It goes this way. You create content based on long tail keywords and you post and promote it. Then you put a big button to your squeeze page or a widget that can show your free offer.

              Also, I don't put links to content from my squeeze page. The content link to the squeeze page but the squeeze page do not link back. That way, people will be focused on keying in their email addresses in my page.

              Hope that helps.

              Aira
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              • Profile picture of the author kingprosperity
                Originally Posted by airabongco View Post

                Hey,

                I know that I am not the one that should be answering but I will go ahead and pitch in.

                The key is to let your visitor focus on one thing at a time. So if you are collecting emails, let them focus on the opt-in box. Make it as big as possible.

                So you may wonder what is content for? It is for driving traffic to your website through the various rankings you may acquire for long tail keywords. Of course, it goes without saying that you should optimize your articles well.

                It goes this way. You create content based on long tail keywords and you post and promote it. Then you put a big button to your squeeze page or a widget that can show your free offer.

                Also, I don't put links to content from my squeeze page. The content link to the squeeze page but the squeeze page do not link back. That way, people will be focused on keying in their email addresses in my page.

                Hope that helps.

                Aira
                Thank You Aira... that's really helpful. But actually there is one more thing I am not understanding well.

                I agree that post and promote my content but where? on my website? if my website is having precious content, and multiple, don't you think after visiting my website a buyer will change his mind? because you already put a lot of precious information for him, more than his needs.

                On the other hand, if I focus on my website for ranking well in search engines and I get successful. Then what? I mean of course I won't be focusing on a single product. what if I promoting 5 products?

                There are many so called gurus that provided me enough information and after that I didn't need to buy their products. Or they fill their sites with quality contents and I get the answer of what I need most of the time.

                I am not saying this that it doesn't work... Of course, it must works that's why almost everyone here is saying that put content on your website first. But I am not understand one thing that won't it decrease your buyers? by providing them enough contents.

                Actually, what I experienced till now is that, on the very least, my two articles must give me a sale. most of the time, even my one article is enough to sale an affiliate product.

                So, I write 10 articles a month, and they provide me minimum 7 sales. But what I feel is that if I put those 10 articles on my website then it will be like enough information for a buyer. That'll be like a free e-book for buyers. don't you think that this thing can decrease the income?

                Again... most of the people saying here that it works to put content on your website... but I am not exactly getting that how. It must work because they are earning. but my question is that don't you think that it can decrease your income? (as an affiliate)
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              • Profile picture of the author kingprosperity
                Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                Well ... I haven't really heard of people disliking or mistrusting or not opting in to or not buying via a site because it has "too much content", to be honest. It's how it looks that will affect many, not what the total content is (which some of them may not even know or care about?).

                The main thing is to get targeted people there. And you do that by gradually building an authority site that ranks at the top of Google. And I do that by regularly updating original content there and having it indexed there.

                I suspect that, beyond a certain point, most users of the site may not really read most of it anyway. But even if it's there for Google's benefit, it's still worth having. You can have a tiny link in some sidebar that links to a page with 30 articles on it that most people never look at, you know? (It's not what I do myself, to be honest, but I suppose one could?).

                The way I look at it is that as long as what people see when they get to my site is something that looks like an authority site, together with a really prominent, incentivized opt-in and a product review or whatever, I don't think having a lot of additional content is actively going to put anyone off. And the SEO benefits, of course, are enormous.

                I do still test this, sometimes (especially with a new niche), but I've always done better with a prominent opt-in on a "site", rather than a pure squeeze-page, myself. That may be partly because it's often my articles that are attracting people to the site in the first place, so they're willing to look at "more of the same", perhaps? I believe that, for me, having a lot of content on the site is part of what encourages people to opt in.
                Thank you Alexa. ... it's helpful. Actually for advertising filling you website with contents then I felt fine. but for promoting affiliate products. I don't know, providing just an free-ebook works best for me. Once I tried to put content in my website but the ratio suddenly decrease, with same niche and same amount of content. It's like if before I was selling 100 percent products just by creating curiosity with my one article; after putting content on my website the ratio decreased to 70 percent, for me.

                That's where I was not exactly getting this point. because many known gurus even filled their website with contents and that prevented me to buy their products. same it happened with my own website... buyers suddenly decreased to 70 percent. because the curiosity I built in an article was ended at my website which was filled with other precious topics.

                Thank you again.
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          • Profile picture of the author mkmossop
            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            That knowledge and experience can help you to build an authority site. It won't be easy to make sales in that niche without one, because your competitors have one. Or at least a "site", if not an "authority site". But one of the (pretty effortless) things that helps a "site" to become an "authority site" is just putting all your articles on it and having them indexed there (before you submit them to EZA!) which takes no time at all, since you're either writing or buying the articles anyway.
            I actually do have my own health/fitness blog, but I haven't put any of my new articles on it because for whatever reason I thought it would harm the chances of them getting ranked on EZA... the whole duplicate content thing I guess.

            Why do you say have them indexed there before submitting to EZA?

            Also, should I wait for EZA to accept them before putting them through the article submitter, or just submit it all at once everywhere?

            I just thought Google may not rank the EZA one if it sees the same article all over the place.
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            • Profile picture of the author connorbringas
              Originally Posted by mkmossop View Post

              Also, should I wait for EZA to accept them before putting them through the article submitter, or just submit it all at once everywhere?

              I just thought Google may not rank the EZA one if it sees the same article all over the place.
              Im pretty sure you have to wait before you put them through an article submitter. EZA wont except an article that is posted elsewhere. I could be wrong though..
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                • Profile picture of the author theemperor
                  Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                  I have many hundreds of articles published by EZA, all of which had originally been published elsewhere.

                  So do many of my clients.

                  So do hundreds, if not thousands, of other professional article marketers.

                  In the introductory email course on "article marketing" that EZA sends out to all new authors opting in for it, EZA specifically invites and encourages their authors to submit there any articles previously published on their own websites, in forums, and elsewhere. As long as the author's name (or pen-name) matches with other online copies so they don't suspect plagiarism, they welcome it. (Wouldn't you, in their position?)
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        • Originally Posted by mkmossop View Post

          I'm direct linking to the affiliate offer because it's easier obviously
          I was under the impression you couldn't do that, at least with ezinearticles.com. Am I wrong, or are you doing a redirect from your own domain?

          thanks,
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          • Originally Posted by dru-man View Post

            I was under the impression you couldn't do that, at least with ezinearticles.com. Am I wrong, or are you doing a redirect from your own domain?

            thanks,
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            Can anyone give me some insight on this--should I start my own thread? lol
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            • Profile picture of the author warriorkay
              Originally Posted by dru-man View Post

              Can anyone give me some insight on this--should I start my own thread? lol
              With EzineArticles.com, you certainly can't
              link directly to an affiliate offer.

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              • Profile picture of the author Justin Jordan
                Originally Posted by warriorkay View Post

                With EzineArticles.com, you certainly can't
                link directly to an affiliate offer.

                Kingsley
                Directly? No, but sending them to a redirect from a top level domain is cool, and that's essentially the same thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author mlord10
    Making a living solely from article marketing can certainly be done, but why would you want to do this?

    Write articles, and make sure that any traffic you generate goes straight to a squeeze page. I used to write a ton of articles each and every day, and while it will generate some immediate income, it is not even close to the best long-term solution.
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    My question is why do you want to be in a niche that already saturated? There are a lot of good keywords, just keep drilling until you find oil!
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    I'm starting off with Article Marketing, but I would like to move on to some of the other methods too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    For what it's worth, the most success I've had with article marketing was sending traffic to a lead capture page and making the money on the backend via an email series with Aweber or the like. So, if you're asking how much can you make directly with article marketing, it would probably take a lot of work to get to full-time levels. But if you use it to build a quality list of subscribers and if you have some good info to offer your members so you gain their trust, then you can knock it out of the park for sure!

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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    Yes, please all keep writing in the weight loss, forex and **** berry niches, then the rest of us get entire niches to ourselves.

    Lucrative niches are overrated - look how much Danny Choo has made from writing about plastic toys and geek junk.
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  • Profile picture of the author mkmossop
    Anyone have any input on what a good CTR is for a link in an author signature in an article?

    At what percentage should it be changed?

    Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author Justin Jordan
      I've averaged a little under 25% for all my articles, and I think somewhere in and around %20 is probably achievable for any article with proper structuring, which Alexa pretty much covered earlier in the thread.

      In my experience, some niches will trend high and low - I have one niche I tried where the four articles I posted got a 60% clickthrough, although they didn't sell jack. I have another where I never could get the clickthrough above 10%.
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      • Profile picture of the author mkmossop
        Originally Posted by Justin Jordan View Post

        I've averaged a little under 25% for all my articles, and I think somewhere in and around %20 is probably achievable for any article with proper structuring, which Alexa pretty much covered earlier in the thread.

        In my experience, some niches will trend high and low - I have one niche I tried where the four articles I posted got a 60% clickthrough, although they didn't sell jack. I have another where I never could get the clickthrough above 10%.
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        It varies. For me, 17%/18% is good, and is accompanied by widespread syndication (by others), and a gradual increase in backlinks, traffic, sales and residual income from work already done.

        Again, it's going to be different for different people (and maybe even for different niches, though mine are all about the same on this front), I think. I happened to change mine (by making big changes in the whole way I wrote articles) when my average CTR was between 35% and 40%. As my CTR's declined to nearer 20%, my sales steadily and consistently increased, and have continued to do so. I'm only spelling this out laboriously to underline the point that a starting assumption that how much money you make from your articles is necessarily going to be proportional to how high your CTR's are would be a totally mistaken one: the reality is that it's not nearly as simple as that.
        Thank you for the info.

        I'm surprised those numbers are so high... that seems incredibly good... well at least based on what my numbers are right now, lol.

        I'm at about 5% in three different niches (health/muscle building/fitness, sexuality, internet marketing). They are more popular niches, so that could explain it I suppose.

        Would anyone consider taking a quick look over one of my articles to see if there are any major problems I could fix?
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        • Profile picture of the author Justin Jordan
          Clickthrough isn't affected a whole by popularity of the niche (how many views you get, on the other hand, is), but you need proper article structure.

          You want to end your article in the resource box. Loads of people use it to say who they are and link back to their website. Truth is, no one really cares who you are. You can add a line to the end with some bona fides, but what you should be using that resource box for is the end of your article, where you actually answer the question you've posed in the artilce.

          Basically, your whole article should be following to that final point in the resource box. You want the answer or whatever point you want to make to be there, and the preceding paragraphs are meant to get them to that point. If you get this right, it makes a huge difference in CTR.

          Once you've got them in the resource box, you want to give them information that is, in the words of Jimmy Brown, useful but incomplete.

          For instance, if you're selling a jump training course and your article is one ways to increase your vertical leap. What you'll want to do is give them the generalities: they need to do plyometrics, focus on the muscle of their posterior chain and what not. In the resource box, you'll want to give them an idea of how to put together the program, but not exactly how. For that, they'll need to clickthrough.

          Basically, give them the what, sell them the how. Which is actually how many free ebooks designed to get you onto a mailing list are structured, so you buy the back end products.

          Including the keywords in the link text in the resource box has generally been helpful as well. But if you're not getting the clickthrough you want, the problem is probably bigger than your resource box.
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              I also agree with justins post.
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          • Profile picture of the author mkmossop
            Originally Posted by Justin Jordan View Post

            Clickthrough isn't affected a whole by popularity of the niche (how many views you get, on the other hand, is), but you need proper article structure.

            You want to end your article in the resource box. Loads of people use it to say who they are and link back to their website. Truth is, no one really cares who you are. You can add a line to the end with some bona fides, but what you should be using that resource box for is the end of your article, where you actually answer the question you've posed in the artilce.

            Basically, your whole article should be following to that final point in the resource box. You want the answer or whatever point you want to make to be there, and the preceding paragraphs are meant to get them to that point. If you get this right, it makes a huge difference in CTR.

            Once you've got them in the resource box, you want to give them information that is, in the words of Jimmy Brown, useful but incomplete.

            For instance, if you're selling a jump training course and your article is one ways to increase your vertical leap. What you'll want to do is give them the generalities: they need to do plyometrics, focus on the muscle of their posterior chain and what not. In the resource box, you'll want to give them an idea of how to put together the program, but not exactly how. For that, they'll need to clickthrough.

            Basically, give them the what, sell them the how. Which is actually how many free ebooks designed to get you onto a mailing list are structured, so you buy the back end products.

            Including the keywords in the link text in the resource box has generally been helpful as well. But if you're not getting the clickthrough you want, the problem is probably bigger than your resource box.
            Great info... makes sense. So basically you write some BS article which answers nothing, lol... this is not what I've been doing at all. I feel the need to actually give useful info when I write something, then link to a related product, which will be much more in depth that my short article.
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            • Profile picture of the author Justin Jordan
              Originally Posted by mkmossop View Post

              So basically you write some BS article which answers nothing, lol... this is not what I've been doing at all. I feel the need to actually give useful info when I write something, then link to a related product, which will be much more in depth that my short article.
              I wouldn't say answers nothing - people will get frustrated with articles that say nothing. The trick is finding the area where you've told them something useful but not so much that they don't need to click through the link.

              Nothing at all wrong with what you're doing, but that sort of thing is a lot more effective on blogs and property you own, rather article directories. Plus, there's nothing at all wrong with doing what feels right for you and your business. But getting really high clickthrough requires a different kind of article, most times.
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              • Profile picture of the author mkmossop
                Originally Posted by Justin Jordan View Post

                I wouldn't say answers nothing - people will get frustrated with articles that say nothing. The trick is finding the area where you've told them something useful but not so much that they don't need to click through the link.

                Nothing at all wrong with what you're doing, but that sort of thing is a lot more effective on blogs and property you own, rather article directories. Plus, there's nothing at all wrong with doing what feels right for you and your business. But getting really high clickthrough requires a different kind of article, most times.
                I do have blogs in two of those niches and post the content on there as well... the articles get way more views though.

                Anyway, thanks again for the info .
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  • Profile picture of the author macchiavelli
    You can definetly make a full time income from article marketing alone.

    What I found out with my years of article marketing is that its really a numbers game.

    If I would have submitted 10 articles to EA and made $400 total, I would submit 100 and make $4000.

    Its all a numbers game.

    Outsourcing will speed up things and make you earn money faster and you wont have to perform any labour!
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  • Profile picture of the author molsted
    Hi!

    You can most certainly do make a full time income from Article Marketing if you use leverage, automation and outsourcing. But it all depends on what "full-time income" means to you.

    Full time income in the philipines is a few hundred bucks a month. Full time income for an oil engineer in Texas is quite a lot more!

    I would recommend using article marketing as a mixture of getting massive amounts of dirt cheap backlinks and getting real visitors to your site.

    ...and as always: use various income models. But Article Marketing is a good way to start out or expand...

    Best of luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
    The full time income doesn't come from your articles. It comes from your sales funnel and backend.
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    • Profile picture of the author molsted
      Originally Posted by BlueSquares View Post

      The full time income doesn't come from your articles. It comes from your sales funnel and backend.
      Well, that's also probably true. Well said. But without the traffic nothing happens, and the articles can give you the traffic you need....
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave WCITM
    I have been making a full time income through article marketing for quite a while now and use this as my foundation while I learn how to implement other very good strategies in order to be able to begin my own internet marketing businesses to generate passive streams of income.

    There definitely is money to be made through article marketing but it requires dedication and a lot of effort on your side, the art is to be able to add more and more value in your articles so that they get the attention which you require in order to make money.

    Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author warriorkay
    It's indeed possible if you believe it's possible
    and if you WORK it. Many of us know the possibilities
    and know what we must do but we don't. Even
    those who eventually take action they DON'T do
    ENOUGH of what must be done and they don't
    do it CONSISTENTLY enough,

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  • Profile picture of the author thebarksmeow
    If you have a tld that redirects to an affiliate offer you can.
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    I would assume you would have to hire a ton of article writers, to spin your content, it is certainly possible
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