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I'm reading about article marketing and a topic that keeps coming up is article spinners. What are the pros and cons of using them? Which one is best? I've seen some selling for as much as $150.
Thanks in advance for any info you can provide.
#article #spinners
  • Profile picture of the author GoogleWarrior
    THE BEST SPINNER. It kicks butt. I haven't actually used it, but I just watched the video the best spinner. (i am not affiliated with this... i dont even have it, yet....) but It seems like you could really climb up the GOOGLE Search Engines by spinning your articles 10X and sending them to different sites!
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  • Profile picture of the author GoogleWarrior
    Ya... I actually saw the JETSPINNER first... but the 40USD/Month turned me off. But it is of high quality,too. It is just too much for me to use because I dont make barely any money online.
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    • Profile picture of the author JTVee
      The one at spontent dot com is free.
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  • Profile picture of the author tdpubs
    Try magic article rewriter. It's on of the best on the market.
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  • Profile picture of the author terrapurus
    Just remember people - spinners are tools only. They don't do the work for you, they just make it easier. If you let it run riot and don't edit the output (and the DO tell you do this in the instructions), then it will output garbage. Submit this content to directories and content networks and you will be familiarized with that other great tool, the ban hammer.
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    • Profile picture of the author suffolkman
      The Best Spinner has certainly picked up a following since it's release earlier this year. The author of TBS seems to want to keep it a head of pack, with updates coming out now and again. Obviously he needs to do this as it's an annual subscription and needs to provide value to his customer base so they keep subscribed.

      As previously mentioned this is just a tool and articles are best reviewed prior to publishing to article directories, etc.
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  • well i would recommend the best spinner...being using it since it launched.
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  • Profile picture of the author coco28
    Incansoft have a new spinner out, its very reasonably priced, but I haven't tried it out yet. Most of their stuff is good though.. Here is the non aff link :

    http://incansoft.com/LlamaSpin.php
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    • Profile picture of the author suffolkman
      Coco 28 just a quick question.

      Why when I clicked on the link that you provided it went straight to my paypal account asking for payment.

      I was expecting just to get some information on the Incansoft article spinner.

      Please can you explain?

      Peter V
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      • Profile picture of the author coco28
        Originally Posted by suffolkman View Post

        Coco 28 just a quick question.

        Why when I clicked on the link that you provided it went straight to my paypal account asking for payment.

        I was expecting just to get some information on the Incansoft article spinner.

        Please can you explain?

        Peter V
        I dont think theres a sales page yet.. Sorry if I caused you any inconvenience, it's not any kind of affiliate link, I just copied/pasted the link that Icansoft emailed me... I think there are reviews available in the reviews forum if you want to check them out before deciding to buy.
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        • Profile picture of the author Spot the Ball
          Here's the good and bad of spinners in about 3 sentences.

          The bad, they are abused to put crap content out that is complete gibberish just to get a link. Spinning thousands of garbage articles, albeit unique but still garbage.

          The good, they are an excellent way to distribute unique articles to various networks that will only in most cases want unique content on their sites... this means more backlinks are distributed from 1 source article. Spin an article well and you should see a higher distribution rate.

          Spinning a good readable article takes time, something a lot of marketers dont have.
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    • Profile picture of the author cosmoslad
      Originally Posted by coco28 View Post

      Incansoft have a new spinner out, its very reasonably priced, but I haven't tried it out yet. Most of their stuff is good though.. Here is the non aff link :

      http://incansoft.com/LlamaSpin.php
      I agree, Big Mike puts out great products. I just picked this up and it works really well.
      The truth is you still need to play editor and re-write the clunky phrases that all spinners turn out.
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      • Profile picture of the author Shiraha
        I use The Best Spinner. It has worked well for me so far and it's really easy to get out of the bag and start using.

        I didn't find $87 per annum too enticing at first but after looking at other prices I guess it's not too bad afterall...
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  • Profile picture of the author H.Miller
    I am personally am not a fan of spinners. Spinners just change a few select words ie "make" to "generate", or something like that. The important directories such as Ezinearticles will notice this and not accept your articles. I think its just better to rewrite the articles yourself. It doesn't take very long and you get a much better quality article.
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    • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
      Originally Posted by H.Miller View Post

      I am personally am not a fan of spinners. Spinners just change a few select words ie "make" to "generate", or something like that. The important directories such as Ezinearticles will notice this and not accept your articles. I think its just better to rewrite the articles yourself. It doesn't take very long and you get a much better quality article.

      Any time this type of topic comes up, there are several people
      who claim that it's impossible to get a good article as a result of
      software programs. Not only is this presumption inaccurate, but
      you can often get a terrific article written working with software
      packages. Quite often the fresh new article improves on the
      original. This is not fantasy, but fact. You might also observe that
      many of replies from people who advertise their own article writing
      services or products.

      There are plenty of top internet marketers who use these kind of
      applications effectively, and generating small fortunes along the
      way. Will these people post in this thread? Most likely not. They
      do not want people to discover their secrets and techniques.

      Hope that helps

      Glenn
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  • I don't like spinners either, some of the results I have seen are pretty awful. I suppose it depends on what you find acceptable.

    The point is the spinner doesn't change the core meaning of the article, just the words which they replace with synonyms.

    I have read articles where after the first paragraph you get a feeling that you've read this before, and the more you read it the more you become convinced it is a copy.

    I read an article that was weird in that the words in the sentences were OK, but the sentences as part of the paragraph didn't make sense. My suspicions were raised when a paragraph I had read earlier was repeated - almost verbatum.

    So I did a check and in the first 5 pages (that's as far as I read) this paragraph was repeated three times!

    Silly stuff.
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    • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
      Originally Posted by Michael Field-Dodgson View Post

      I don't like spinners either, some of the results I have seen are pretty awful. I suppose it depends on what you find acceptable.

      The point is the spinner doesn't change the core meaning of the article, just the words which they replace with synonyms.

      I have read articles where after the first paragraph you get a feeling that you've read this before, and the more you read it the more you become convinced it is a copy.

      I read an article that was weird in that the words in the sentences were OK, but the sentences as part of the paragraph didn't make sense. My suspicions were raised when a paragraph I had read earlier was repeated - almost verbatum.

      So I did a check and in the first 5 pages (that's as far as I read) this paragraph was repeated three times!

      Silly stuff.
      Clearly you found a very bad example of a spun article. A well constructed version would not only read well, but actually inform too. As Internet Marketers, surely you don't want people to jump from one of your articles to another, you want them to take action the FIRST time they read one of your articles. That's what I prefer anyway.

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    • Profile picture of the author Cash37
      I watched the best spinner video and it will be part of my future campaigns.
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      • Profile picture of the author koolphoto
        I am hard-headed. I still love Power Article Rewriter. It doesn't do what all these new high tech article spinners do, but for me it works. It spins my rewrites. I usually spin, ideas and sentences rather then synonyms. PAR does this well for me.

        I have to confess that I just bought Big Mikes article spinner, Llamaspin. My reasoning is because I like all of Incansoft products and they don't cost much, so I usually buy them unseen and untested. Also, I don't know if PAR will always work. I have been told the PAR programer has been MIA.

        Haven't given Llamaspin a full test ride yet, so I don't have any opinions one way or another.
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        • Profile picture of the author sonjay
          Originally Posted by koolphoto View Post

          I am hard-headed. I still love Power Article Rewriter. It doesn't do what all these new high tech article spinners do, but for me it works. It spins my rewrites. I usually spin, ideas and sentences rather then synonyms. PAR does this well for me.

          I have to confess that I just bought Big Mikes article spinner, Llamaspin. My reasoning is because I like all of Incansoft products and they don't cost much, so I usually buy them unseen and untested. Also, I don't know if PAR will always work. I have been told the PAR programer has been MIA.

          Haven't given Llamaspin a full test ride yet, so I don't have any opinions one way or another.
          I remain to be a fan of the Power Article Rewriter software. I believe that I am the Best Spinner (manual, that is), who makes use of a tool suited to my situation, to the best of my ability.

          My online freelance career started as content writer which lead to article spinning - I started during the days that spinning software (those that suggest synonyms/alternates) are not yet born.

          I agree that a tool is only as good as its user. I have tried Magic Article Rewriter, but PAR can do better than that or just offers what I need. I have tried TBS, but you have to rely on a very good Internet connection to get it working - something which is not made available to me when I am just beginning my online earning career.

          If a tool meets just what the user needs, then that user just found success related to the use of that tool!

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  • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
    I have problems with spinners like TBS where the database is generated by its users. I use TBS, and the amount of crap in the database is unbelievable. A job that used to take, say 30 minutes now takes several hours. The automated addiction of user generated data should be changed so that each entry is approved before it's added.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mountainmotorman
    I know that many people are looking to use spinners like crazy because, if the content is unique, you have a much better chance of Google ranking it again and again if it is a simple spin.... I have this formatted in The Link Racer so that when people use their spinner and have the syntax ready, they just insert it that way. Now, I am not trying to promote here I am trying to inform you that, if you are not using a spinner, you need to get on the bus that makes you the money! Get on board because, this is what gives you many back links when you publish to many different directories...

    Understand, this is all about making a living the easiest way possible. Some is junk but, if it makes money people do not give a darn!!! That is how you need to look at it... Real simple and easy! LEARN IT and USE IT!
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    • Profile picture of the author theemperor
      The best spinner costs $231 over 3 years. That's quite a high cost I'd say, and there are much more affordable alternatives around.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
        Originally Posted by theemperor View Post

        The best spinner costs $231 over 3 years. That's quite a high cost I'd say, and there are much more affordable alternatives around.
        Which equals $0.21 per day(if you subscribed to the service at the normal rate, but if like me, you got it at $47 a year, it = $0.12 per day making it the best value spinning software around)

        I am very curious, can your spinner beat the thesaurus of TBS, which has long since improved, I'm not entirely sure what Glen Leaders issue with it is, it works perfect for me.

        By the way, to the new guys, spinning is about content leverage. There are so many things you can do with hand spun articles that have been done properly, such as selling the results as PLR etc.

        That said, you certainly do not need to spin articles, you can submit them without any change to 99.99% of all article directories accept Buzzle. It is called print syndication, although some people have a great amount of difficulty understanding this and consider it spam and duplicate content.

        Have a good day!

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        • Profile picture of the author Cash37
          Originally Posted by skyfox7 View Post

          Which equals $0.21 per day(if you subscribed to the service at the normal rate, but if like me, you got it at $47 a year, it = $0.12 per day making it the best value spinning software around)

          I am very curious, can your spinner beat the thesaurus of TBS, which has long since improved, I'm not entirely sure what Glen Leaders issue with it is, it works perfect for me.

          By the way, to the new guys, spinning is about content leverage. There are so many things you can do with hand spun articles that have been done properly, such as selling the results as PLR etc.

          That said, you certainly do not need to spin articles, you can submit them without any change to 99.99% of all article directories accept Buzzle. It is called print syndication, although some people have a great amount of difficulty understanding this and consider it spam and duplicate content.

          Have a good day!

          Chris
          How can I get in at $47? Im willing to sign up under your affiliate link if you hook me up!
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        • Profile picture of the author theemperor
          Originally Posted by skyfox7 View Post

          I am very curious, can your spinner beat the thesaurus of TBS, which has long since improved, I'm not entirely sure what Glen Leaders issue with it is, it works perfect for me.
          TBS and HAS (i.e. my spinner!) both have very large thesauruses. Give mine a go (there is a free trial download from website, see sig link, wait 10 seconds for popup). See what you think. Rate or slate it in this thread if you want.

          Now this is the cool thing....

          There is a very new feature added, just finished this morning at 5am. With this you can submit unique spins automatically to 100's of blogs in seconds.

          You just need to set up email posting on each blog, a feature supported by all good blog sites. Then paste the relevant details into the spinner (a one time job) and BAAAM!! 100's of back-links at once. Exciting stuff.

          More cool features on articles submission to various places are in the pipeline

          So for just $0.06 a day over 3 years you can have a great submission and back-linking solution, let alone the excellent spinner interface and thesaurus .
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      • Profile picture of the author bay37
        Originally Posted by theemperor View Post

        The best spinner costs $231 over 3 years. That's quite a high cost I'd say, and there are much more affordable alternatives around.
        My writer spins around 3 high quality articles each and every day. It saves her at least 3-5 hours/day. She tried using other article spinners - bad, bad idea.

        If you are serious about this stuff - go for TBS. If you just want to be able to say "I own article spinning stuff" - get one of the cheap tools out there. Simple as that.

        If any of you can recommend a better article spinner - honestly - PM me please, I actually use them a lot and can always use an improvement.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan Beacher
    I'd recommend The Best Spinner, like others. With a bit of care and attention, you can be producing 50 ~80% unique articles from only ONE seed article
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  • Profile picture of the author billspaced
    Originally Posted by citizenjerry View Post

    I'm reading about article marketing and a topic that keeps coming up is article spinners. What are the pros and cons of using them? Which one is best? I've seen some selling for as much as $150.
    Thanks in advance for any info you can provide.
    I just started dabbling in article spinning as part of a test, and I have to say, I've used a few now and hands-down, The Best Spinner is named appropriately. It's fairly intuitive (watch the video a few times, though, if you want to maximize your productivity), it's easy to use, and the output is good (provided, of course, that you choose your "spins" wisely).

    It's a power tool, though, so make sure you know how to use it properly. Wouldn't want to cut off any appendages!
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  • Profile picture of the author KarimPPC
    I use llamaspin, it's best. Most public spinning repositories are c**p, people don't check capitalisation, don't understand that some spintax may not make sense globally etc.

    So I just build my own list of spintax, and dont use other peoples.

    NMore time consuming, but at least I'm not putting out content that has no legible sense.

    Llamaspin does not work offline, your repositories are stored online too, which is annoying. I work in coffee shops which dont always have internet connection, and is a bugger. Offline support would be good. But incansoft aren't in the business of making well designed software, they put out any old half assed software at rock bottom prices.

    I use llamaspin as a "working clunks" for my SeNUKE articles. Reason being is that, senuke does not have a autospin feature of it's own. llamaspin has it, but llamaspin has big issues with nested spins. And spits out the {|} sometimes in the output. Senuke is great and spinning out very complex article spins.
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  • Profile picture of the author venkyiyer58
    I believe that if you stick to the way the software spins your articles, you may end up with crap. If you take the trouble of doing some editing, you may end up with quality. You can't just depend solely on the software - it gives you the basic structure, you got to do the finishing.

    Having said that, I have this question: does anyone have any opinion about Article Marketing Robot? I am using the trial version at the moment, and am happy so far. I would like to know if anyone has had any negative experiences with this software.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paleochora
    I am a SpinnerChief man myself. I used TBS in the past but I find SpinnerChief far more capable an animal with loads of really useful functions. I only downloaded it originally when it was released out of curiosity to see how it measured up to TBS. I ended up using it more & more.

    And its free.
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  • Profile picture of the author basstrackerboats
    I'm a huge fan of TBS and use it for my personal stuff as well as for the service I offer.

    It works like a champ!
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  • Profile picture of the author JimmyRose
    The people that say they only see crap come out of spinners are probably expecting the single click spins to produce perfectly readable articles. Of course this is almost impossible! But if you spend a little bit of time, you can spin 1 into hundreds of READABLE articles which you can blast out everywhere - blog networks, directories, whatever. Hands down the best promotion method IMO.

    I didn't like any of the rubbish products on the market, so I got together with some mates and we made our own. Now we have launched it to the market, see the signature
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  • Profile picture of the author warriorkay
    Like I said in the below post, it's important to do article
    spinning RIGHT, regardless of which tool/software you use:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post3062606

    Originally Posted by warriorkay View Post


    I just responded to a thread about article spinning
    where, as usual, many seem to enjoy rubbishing the
    entire concept of article spinning because of those
    who are doing it wrongly. I am starting a new thread
    to say a little more, than I said in that particular
    thread, and to encourage those who are actually
    doing article spinning RIGHT to speak up.

    Let's make a case for RIGHT article spinning and
    show how we actually use it RIGHT to produce
    results
    . I know I do,

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    I have always tried to stay away from the threads about the
    seeming evils of article spinning, because obviously the more
    people talk about the "evils", the less they do article spinning,
    and the MORE those who do it right, like me, make a killing,

    But perhaps I shouldn't today. So, here goes...

    First - yes, I sell spin ready articles and I own an article
    distribution service, but these are not the reasons why I
    am posting this. I am posting this to clear some common
    misconceptions people have about article spinning.

    Article spinning is not evil, as most of us think. It's simply
    a way to get the best from article marketing. In a way, it is
    simply leveraging your articles to get more results than the
    norm. It's no different from any other system or tools of
    leverage.

    The only problem? People using the system wrongly to
    produce junk and rubbish spun articles. It's just as good as
    saying a kitchen knife in the hands of a good cook can
    be put to "good" use while that same kitchen knife in the
    hands of a serial killer can wreak havoc on lives...

    ... same knife, different users, different results!

    Reminds me of a popular statement/quote, which goes...

    There is no evil in the atom; only in men's souls. ~Adlai Stevenson

    And note, article spinning doesn't have to always mean
    using some article spinning software. I have personally
    written/rewritten THOUSANDS of 100% manually-done
    spin ready (spinnable) articles without using any article
    spinning software.
    Yes, my University degree in
    Communication and love/passion for writing helped here,
    but it's easy to do because I now have lots of writers
    who I have trained and they do it very easily now.

    So, yes, article spinning is not just about using software to
    spun rubbish articles.

    Some Right Ways Of Doing Article Spinning

    Yes, there are right ways. Simply writing an article from
    scratch and rewriting the various sentences multiple times and
    putting them all together
    can produce dozens or even
    hundreds of reasonably unique versions. Also writing and
    rewriting many multiples of "stand-alone" paragraphs on
    a particular topic/niche and expertly putting them all together
    can produce very powerfully done hundreds of unique
    versions
    (this is one of the main ways I do article spinning,
    by the way and it's very effective and produce articles
    so good that they ARE accepted by EzineArticles all the time, )

    Article spinning, when done right, is no different from
    writing 100 articles. The only difference is that you make
    BETTER USE of the 100 articles and turn them into 1,000
    articles instead...

    ... same time spent in writing 100 articles... but 10 times result!

    For those who think article spinning is the answer for their
    being lazy, it's really NOT. It's actually MORE DIFFICULT
    to prepare 100 very well done spin ready articles than it
    is to write 500 articles from scratch
    . I know, I have done it
    more times than I can count.

    NOTE OR WARNING to those who use article spinning wrongly...
    you will get MORE results if you actually spend time to do
    things right. Instead of just loading an article into an
    article spinner and hitting the "automatic synonym replacement"
    button, take about an hour or more to rewrite the sentences
    multiple times or use the "stand-alone" paragraph system I
    have mentioned above, and you will end up with hundreds
    of unique versions that YOU and the article directory
    owners will be proud of.

    I can go on and on (perhaps I should, in a special article
    spinning report, ) but I have to stop here.

    And by the way, even as an article spinner myself, I have
    suffered untold hardship in the hands of those who use
    article spinning wrongly. My ArticlesCRUSH.com membership
    site had to CLOSE ITS DOORS to new and even existing
    customers because many members simply spend most of
    their time inundating us with badly spun articles, obviously
    from using the many "push-button" article spinners out
    there. What we now do at ArticlesCRUSH is to do the
    spinning for the members ourselves and submit it to the
    article directories on their behalf - until they learn to do
    it right, on their own... if they ever, that is.

    And yes, I am an article directory owner too, in fact I
    am HUNDREDS of article directories owner. Yep, I got
    HUNDREDS of article directories since 2008 that I
    cherish greatly.
    The primary focus of my ArticlesCRUSH
    article distribution service was to submit member's articles
    to these hundreds of article directories that I own, but
    later I added thousands more, owned by other people, to
    give the members more leverage.

    And finally, for those who think I started this thread to sell
    membership to my ArticlesCRUSH article distribution service,
    it's important to say here that we have closed the doors
    and not accepting members
    , no thanks to the junk
    synonym replacement article spinners out there!

    So, there goes... my HELPFUL rant,

    I hope this helps,

    For the many out there who use article spinning RIGHT,
    please share your experience/techniques/etc, to show how
    article spinning can indeed be done right and how/why it's
    not evil, as most people think!

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  • Article spinners are really not a good idea. I wrote an article on this a while back, which received a lot of attention. Instead of copy/pasting it here or ranting, simply view the original article below:
    SEO Article Writing: To Spin or Not To Spin

    Additionally, check out this article by BloggingTips.com, which referenced my article:
    There's No Room for Spin On Good Content

    I hope this info helps.

    -Aaron
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
    My only question is this.....

    If you write one high quality article and get it syndicated to 50 sites by doing a little bit of work, why would it not be more valuable than spinning the SAME article into 100 variations which you will submit to the same old boring directories?

    One of these days I'll have to try a spinner, but I cringe every time I think about it. A spun article is NOT UNIQUE CONTENT. It is regurgitated content. It might look good, but it is not UNIQUE. Unique content requires one thing missing in a spun article, unique thoughts.

    I have looked at a few videos of spinners in action, including The Best Spinner. I agree they can create very good quality articles. They can work great for creating massive amounts of backlinks, but they DO NOT PROVIDE VALUE IN UNIQUE COMMUNICATION.

    Ah damn it...That makes me a spinner basher..kind of...

    Test what works for your market and go for it. It is the only advice which really works.

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  • Profile picture of the author coollife84
    is there any cheap solution particularly fo rnewbies
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    • Profile picture of the author rmoore
      I really can't imagine a spinner better than The Best Spinner.

      The new updates and the "Easy Spin" option (where you can replace common phrases as well as single words)...makes it incredible.

      Easily worth the yearly fee if you use it on a regular basis.

      I have made my money back many times over with this tool.

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  • Profile picture of the author Alfred23
    I think so, because it can rewrite the article with at least 30 % of the original one. As long as your article is unique, it won't be removed by the administrator.
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  • Profile picture of the author moshecogan
    Yes, try magic article rewriter.
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  • Profile picture of the author karenhudson
    thebestspinner is the best
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  • Profile picture of the author Nathy Curiel
    I hear only people talking about The Best Spinner. How about Contect Proffessor ?
    I am at the point of buying and I still can't make a choice between both of them.
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