Linkvana

by W.P. Allen

Posted: 15 years ago 22 replies

INTERNET MARKETING

I have been using linkvana for about 2 1/2 months. I have quite a few projects that I have been linking to over this period of time. Now, the question I have is, why isn't it having any effect on my sites? Two of my sites have been delisted, another of my sites that is almost 2 years old dropped in pagerank...

And all this has happened in the period of time that I began using Linkvana. Now, I know it's not an SEO silver bullet and I'm not expecting that but I was expecting some kind of additional progress.

Also, I don't use it as my only source of links. I submit my site to 600 directories (outsource) 125 social bookmarking (outsource) I write articles to submit to ezine articles - I also use article marketing automation.com and Comment Kahuna.

Maybe I'm using Linkvana incorrectly...:confused:

Anybody else using Linkvana successfully and if so what is your strategy with it?

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dbarnum 15 years ago

A few q's, if you don't mind, to help:

What type of site is it, what niche?
Selling a products there or service?
How old is the site?
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- W.P. Allen 15 years ago
  
  Well, without giving too much away...
  
  The main site that dropped in pagerank is a large content site that promotes physical products (for the home), and it's about a year and 9 months old. The other site that was delisted was relatively new (about a month old) and was the same (content with adsense and physical products).
  
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Kurt 15 years ago

Do some research and see if the directory links have been dropped. If so, this would explain a reduction in PR.
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James Schramko 15 years ago

A lot of directories were downgraded about a month ago. This could be part of it.

Also if your links are too similar this can cause a problem. Varying the anchor text and linking to deep pages can help.
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- dmderoeck 15 years ago
  
  James,
  
  Do you have a list of those downgraded directories by chance?
  
  It seems directory submission is not held in a high regard anymore...
  
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Dennis Cheesman 15 years ago

The other site that was delisted was relatively new (about a month old) and was the same (content with adsense and physical products).

This site will come back.. it's not uncommon for a new site to do this so don't worry about this one..

The main site that dropped in pagerank is a large content site that promotes physical products (for the home), and it's about a year and 9 months old.

Pagerank can drop, if the links you are getting is not that relevant, also the larger the site gets it can lower as it passes pr to them pages as well..

Hope this helps..

Dennis
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- W.P. Allen 15 years ago
  
  Thanks for the feedback so far.
  
  A lot of directories were downgraded about a month ago. This could be part of it.
  
  So should you still use directory submission?
  
  Also if your links are too similar this can cause a problem. Varying the anchor text and linking to deep pages can help.
  
  Some of my links are similar/same but I want to rank for those specific keywords so wouldn't I want to have that keyword in my anchor text (i.e. page title)?
  
  And you shouldn't use Linkvana to link to the main page? Is it worth $147 a month to only deep link?
  
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kkchoon 15 years ago

I personally use traffic kahuna and articlemarketingautomation, I believe is the same thing.

Still under evaluation, can't comment much, but few things may be you can clearify:

How many variant keywords do you use per article? What is the frequency for those article to post?

Are you using long tail keywords or the main seed keywords in your article?

My experience tells me, when you have too many articles or links shows up at the same time, your site may be de-list for a short period, may be Google is doing some automated background checking...If you modify your own web page and keywords at the same time, your site will be de-list for some time!

Just continue to build your back links with linkvana, give a month or two to test it, if still not show, you better off just submit articles...

Normally this kind of service should bring you some internal traffic if your article is good, but they work best with long tail keywords.

If you are testing Linkvana, I suggest you don't bookmark your page at the same time, not sure if massive bookmarks will get your site de-listed or not.
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Eric Lorence 15 years ago

Go into your Awsats a check up on the sites linking to yours.

What I don't like about Linkvana and similar programs, is that they pitch the quality of their site network- but never reveal it to their customers.

You basically have to take their word that you are getting what you paid for.

Check up on every one of those backlinking sites and see for yourself the site quality.

That is too much money to spend with no results.

Just my opinion.

Good luck!
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Simon_Sezs 15 years ago

The bigger question is how is it affecting your organic traffic? Your PR means very little when it comes to getting ranked in the SERPS.
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chris_surfrider 15 years ago

Linkvana is a soft linking strategy.

You can't go blast out articles to hundreds of sites at the same time and expect Google to react to your "soft" approach.

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- W.P. Allen 15 years ago
  
  I think you're right Chris. I think I may have "over done it." Although I don't have hundreds of sites more like around 50. I got overzealous when I should have been cautious.
  
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  W.P. Allen 15 years ago
  
  Chris, how do you recommend using it? In your opinion, what is the best strategy, specifically?
  
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James Schramko 15 years ago

Linkvana is great to add links for your home page and deep linking.

It is easy to tell what blogs are linking to you if you have a wordpress blog with trackbacks.

It is not natural to have ll of your links with one or two words. Pick very simlar words and mix them around.

In the case where you get dropped even a "click here" anchor text might ease you out of it.

AMA and LV are different animals and having both is ideal. LV is more quality controlled and AMA is more random.

Re directories, it is still worth doing for quality directories but blackhole junky ones are a waste of time especially the mass submit ones.

Google has removed directory submission from its recommendations for getting better search rankings according to Jerry West.
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- Jesus Perez 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by James Schramko
  
  Google has removed directory submission from its recommendations for getting better search rankings according to Jerry West.
  
  Spot on. They've been hammering directories for years. This doesn't surprise me one bit.
  
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CanuckMike 15 years ago

Hey, here are some tips I use with LinkVana with pretty good success.

Split where your links are going 50% to the homepage and 50% to second level domains. It never looks normal if all your links are pointed at your homepage.

Create a list of 10 of your keywords/phrases and switch them around all the time in your posts.
With 10 different linking text variations that all point to either the top level 50% of the time and 50% of the time to the second level it looks much more natural.

Hope that helps.

Second level being: yoursite.com/page1.html
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- NiallR 15 years ago
  
  Hi,
  
  I've used LV and other such blog farms and the only thing they've ever been able to do is increase my PR. Hate saying it because I had high hopes for these programs.
  
  I know other people have had claimed success with LV and similar programs but for me if I don't see results within 90 days from something then it gets dropped.
  
  Unless my traffic and sales increase then it's not an investment - just an experiment.
  
  I took the same amount of money from my subscription and spent it on having articles written for me for submission. Result? Traffic and sales.
  
  Each to their own but I know what works for me :-)
  
  Niall
  
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  W.P. Allen 15 years ago
  
  Has anyone had any concrete success with LV? Anyone have an increase in sales? I don't know if I can justify the $147 a month. I have mostly content sites (I've heard LV is good for affiliate review sites or conduit sites) so would I be better off spending the money on article outsourcing (I can have around 30 articles written for $150)?
  
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cktan 15 years ago

Subscribed to LV last month and have yet see any good results to my sites, (one of my sites even lost its first page ranking recently...). Anyway, I will continue to use this service for 1 more month and see how it goes.
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DavidO 15 years ago

I've been with LV since its launch and I therefore enjoy a lower subscription rate. I do wonder about its value but I find it impossible to evaluate when you are actively promoting your site in other ways.

The links are legit. All you have to do is a word-for-word search on phrases from your post and you'll find the blogs they're posted on.

But how much does this contribute to site promotion? It's hard to say. Because I want it to look natural I only add links now and then. It's not something I do every day. I agree that articles are probably better value but blog posts add something else to my promotion. I just wish I knew what that "something else" was!

Can anyone explain how to determine what specific contribution blog posts make to your site's importance in the eyes of Google? I doubt if it's possible.
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- NiallR 15 years ago
  
  $147 is a lot of money to spend each month if you're not seeing any noticeable results.
  
  If you've followed the instructions provided and have given it an honestly good effort then it's time to look at your ROI. You're spending x and making y. If you're not increasing your income then when are you spending the money?
  
  As an experiment for yourself why not take the $147 and have 30 articles written for you. Submit these articles and measure you traffic, keyword stats and sales.
  
  Then compare the results to what you got/are getting from LV.
  
  Again people have said they love LV and I'm not knocking it as a program. Just suggesting that people don't keep banging their heads off a wall if something ain't working for them.
  
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  magentawave 15 years ago
  
  I started with linkvana a couple months by Chris Rempels recommendation. I am using it for multiple sites and have them posted every other day. I am also doing about 50/50 home page and deep linking. I outsource my 100 word articles for about 50 cents each. Its not cheap and only time will tell if it works. Since most of my sites are Wordpress sites, I can see the backlinks on my Dashboard page. The thing that concerns me is that all those backlinks are coming from PR0 pages on funky total nonsense trash blogs. Sure the blog home pages might be PR2 or 3, but not the pages my links are on. And since the backlinks are coming from total junk blogs (seriously, these things are worse than those spammy adsense sites that used to clog Google search results), don't except any direct traffic as a result of the backlink since no one would ever read those "blogs."
  
  I am now looking at Article Marketing Automation and welcome your opinions.
  
  Steve
  
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