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Any Market Samurai Masters Here?

by smartsites
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Hi,

I'm looking for some advice / help on how to really read the SEO Competition charts to find and or decide if I should go for a niche keyword.

I've heard so many different things. I've heard BLD don't matter, but BLP does, Domain age doesn't matter but then it does. I'm confused so if any "TRUE" masters out there please enlighten me
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  • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
    Originally Posted by smartsites View Post

    Hi,

    I'm looking for some advice / help on how to really read the SEO Competition charts to find and or decide if I should go for a niche keyword.

    I've heard so many different things. I've heard BLD don't matter, but BLP does, Domain age doesn't matter but then it does. I'm confused so if any "TRUE" masters out there please enlighten me
    If anyone is telling you that ANY of the data that Market Samurai provides flat-out "doesn't matter", then they don't know what they are talking about. Domain age definitely matters, but, the problem is (the proverbial "grey area") lies in the question: To what extent does it matter? Generally speaking, try to secure the oldest domain possible, as you can in relation to your niche/project.
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  • Profile picture of the author alkantenik
    Do you know these tutorials?
    Video Tutorials - Noble Samurai
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  • Profile picture of the author Johnny Slater
    You best bet might be to go directly to the source.

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  • Profile picture of the author ASCW
    Also the challenge run by Ed Dale focuses heavily on Market Samurai and everybody in their forums are pretty well versed in Market Samurai.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Mysterious Marketer
    Like what everyone said above...

    However, one thing I would like to say is that you have to understand why you are reading the SEO Competition chart in the first place...

    Thus, the reason you are doing this is because you want to find someone in the top 10 of Google for your keyword who is weak enough that you can knock off and take his place.

    If there is no one in the top 10 who is weak enough for you to knock off and take his place, that means it's a bit tough. But that's the only thing that should matter, because you want to reach the front page.

    So when you look at the Competition matrix, think - is there any weak guy that I can take his place? Of course, the more weak sites there are the better it is and the more chances you have on ranking.

    The main criteria you should be looking at are the Onpage optimization (everything from Domain Name to Description), PR, and backlinks to the page.

    All the other criteria are important, don't get me wrong, but the above criteria are the most make or break ones...

    If you can find at least two to three sites who are weak in those criterias, you have most probably got it made...

    I agree with what everyone says... Everything matters... But it is not a problem whether they matter or not... The thing is about HOW much they matter. Thus the ones that matter most are Onpage factors, PR, and backlinks...

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    • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
      "Thus, the reason you are doing this is because you want to find someone in the top 10 of Google for your keyword who is weak enough that you can knock off and take his place."

      EXACTLY! The benefit of Market Samurai is that it ultimately saves you alot of wasted time and effort as a result of essentially shooting arrows into the air, and keeping your fingers crossed that one will, in fact, hit the bulls-eye. Without it, you are applying a serious hit-or-miss strategy.

      Some competition, seriously, may not even be worth the time and effort, nor would it be within your own budget and resources to even ATTEMPT to dethrone them. The time you would spend doing that could be better spent on other projects. Market Samurai helps you to NOT waste your own time.
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      • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
        Also, when you watch the tutorials, do bear in mind what they say about the tendencies of online surfers. When a query is made, via Google, and search results are displayed, they (the folks at MS) explain that there are varying % of probability that someone will actually click on your link, dependent upon where it shows up on the page. I believe the number was around 42 or 43% of people would click on the first result (I would have to rewatch what they said in the tutorial), and, that % would decrease with each place, leaving the last listings on the page with, of course, a less % of click through to their link.

        As you can see, the difference between the #5 spot and the #4 spot can be HUGE, in Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author smartsites
    Thank you so much for the clarifications. I have watched the videos as well as other videos about MS on youtube which probably is my problem because everyone has their own opinion...
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    • Profile picture of the author Derek_Thomas
      Originally Posted by smartsites View Post

      Thank you so much for the clarifications. I have watched the videos as well as other videos about MS on youtube which probably is my problem because everyone has their own opinion...
      Which is why, as stated above, hearing it "from the horse's mouth" is probably you're best option.

      Check it out...

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      • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
        Originally Posted by derek.ifocus View Post

        Which is why, as stated above, hearing it "from the horse's mouth" is probably you're best option.

        Check it out...

        The Challenge

        Good luck to you,
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        • Profile picture of the author kmckillop
          I haven't found much weight in the domain age compared to the other factors. On-page is big deal especially when the competition has poor back-link anchor text. Even the number of back-links isn't huge, it's the quality of the back-links. You need to take a look at the PR analysis of the competing sites and the anchor text analysis as well.

          Here is an example.

          I have a domain up (keyword matched .com) in a local market with about 115,000 matching broad results.

          Here is the Market Samurai results:



          Mine is in the 3rd position, the domain is about 3 months old at most, you can see it's got the least amount of back-links too, and PR0.

          My anchor text is optimized for my targeted keywords, I've got the on-page factors down, as well as the keyword in the domain.

          The rest of those sites aren't optimized very well (regardless of PR or age or number of backlinks). I could tell that by their on page factors and their anchor text analysis (not to mention the highest PR site is 3)
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          Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x View Post

          Have you had success with 'the challenge', derek?
          Yes I have, which is why I so confidently recommend it to people time and time again.

          How about yourself?

          Have you ever participated?

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    derek: I sent you a PM did you get it? I bought your wso and it's really good but have some questions.
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  • Profile picture of the author smartsites
    kmckillop: how long did it take google to rank you? I've got a similar setup, keyword in the domain all on page optimized and the others are not optimized at all with pr zeros but I can't find myself ranking for my keyword... it's been about 3 weeks.
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    • Profile picture of the author kmckillop
      Originally Posted by smartsites View Post

      kmckillop: how long did it take google to rank you? I've got a similar setup, keyword in the domain all on page optimized and the others are not optimized at all with pr zeros but I can't find myself ranking for my keyword... it's been about 3 weeks.
      I got some backlinks created right away and maybe about 3 weeks later it was on the first page and creeped up to the 3rd spot maybe 4 weeks after that.

      Get some backlinks with keyword optimized anchor text, then give it some time for Google to index your site and crawl the backlinks. If it's as weak as you say, an exact keyword domain with all the on-page factors checked off and a few back-links should get you onto the first page.

      But remember, check your competitions backlinks (not the number, but the quality, that is big factor).
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  • Profile picture of the author terrapurus
    Originally Posted by smartsites View Post

    Hi,

    I'm looking for some advice / help on how to really read the SEO Competition charts to find and or decide if I should go for a niche keyword.

    I've heard so many different things. I've heard BLD don't matter, but BLP does, Domain age doesn't matter but then it does. I'm confused so if any "TRUE" masters out there please enlighten me
    You are asking the hammer if you should build the house.

    If you need translation - the Noble Samuri team have produced a fantastic market research tool. But the item it can't canvas is you and what resources you are willing to commit to the project.

    In that regard, the SEO page is "with all things being equal, this is what I need to compete in this marketplace".

    > heard BLD don't matter, but BLP does

    What matters is how authoritive Google considers your page in question for the search term.

    > Domain age

    Aged domains (forget crappy parked domains - thats leaving yoru ferrari on the street for 10 years and wondering why the pain job looks terrible) have more opporutunity to build authority over time and show they are there for the long haul.

    So ... the answer to your question is the page is relative ... and what you need to bring to the game to be considered a player. If you are looking for hard and fast answers on that page, you won't find it as a cookng recipe (add a dash of backlinks and a cup of content and bake for 2 years) ....
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