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A bit confused advised needed

by Suka
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So i have created a blog, and set up a home page promoting a guide.

After hours of work, I found a forum, and there was a sticky about how crap the product is that i want to promote.
(the info in the book can be found for free on the web.)

That kinda freaked me out a little, but then realised its a big market, so i need to find legitimate affilate programs that offer quality products that i don't feel bad about promoting.

now the confusing part, Is that i have targeted a specific keyword phrase that looks verry promising, but it is referenced to a DIY guide, and the other programs arnt DIY guides.

Should i create a new domain name (keyword) for every offer? or can i continue targeting/using the original keyword with the domain and throw in content relating to the other offers on different pages, perhaps with the new offer title being the keywords? what will be best with SEO as i am aiming for first page on Google.

I wish i could talk to someone about this, iv just started taking action and these small hiccups make me worry that the way i am doing is not correct
#advised #bit #confused #needed
  • Profile picture of the author Matt Morgan
    One website can contain 1 page, or 1000 pages. It depends on your goal of the website, which you have stated. Look how many pages this forum has? just on www .warriorforum.com - and still growing

    I would go with 1 domain for now, and make additional pages for each affiliate offer.

    www MyDomain .com

    www MyDomain .com/Keyword-1.htm (targetting keyword phrase 1, and affiliate product 1)

    www MyDomain .com/Keyword-2.htm (targetting keyword phrase 2, and affiliate product 2)

    www MyDomain .com/Keyword-3.htm (targetting keyword phrase 3, and affiliate product 3)

    www MyDomain .com/Keyword-x.htm (targetting keyword phrase x, and affiliate product x)

    You wouldn't need a separate domain per each page, and can just add additional pags to that one site, with that 1 domain.

    Additional tips
    -Get backlinks to them 'other' pages aswell as to your homepage.
    -Interlink the pages together aswell using some internal linking.
    -Social bookmark them pages, along with somebody elses other 'similar' content, so that your bookmarks will be mixed up.
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    • Profile picture of the author BigDaddys101
      Hey Suka,

      Just thought about pointing out the fact the inconspicuous advertising has always worked best for me.

      What I am saying is keeping the domain and using the keywords can still be a very good idea. If you are worried about the book being crap, post in your article the book is crap. But then sign up as an affiliate for some related products or maybe even a better book on the same subject that are not crap and advertise them on the side bar (i like the right side).

      Maybe even ad two adsense ads like the two matching adds at the bottom of this post Discover Inexpensive Web Hosting Within Your Grasp Today | Cyber-Toolz.net This site may be a bit overboard with the adverts but I have had pretty good luck adding the two adsense ads at the bottom when I write an article about a product I know no one is going to buy. Just be sure to match the ads with your theme you don't want them to stick out and poke people
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  • Profile picture of the author impact-productions
    Good on you Suka for checking that out. I agree with you completely about only promoting quality products.

    Within the DIY niche, one alternative might be to look for physical products. There are lots of those about. You can find tools, or you could look for physical books on DIY from Amazon.

    Matt's suggestion about how to focus one site around multiple products is excellent advice too.

    Another idea, if your keyword will only work for the affiliate product you originally selected - you can make your site a 'Do Not Buy X - Buy Y Instead'. That way, your domain is not wasted.

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  • Profile picture of the author hotlinkz
    Hi Suka,

    Without knowing what product/service you are looking to market, it will be difficult to provide specific resolution. However, here are a few things you want to keep in mind.

    1. If it is a ClickBank product, check the Gravity. If it is really low, you may want to reconsider.

    2. Research - You state that you have one keyword that looks promising; you will need to do further research to locate additional keywords related to the product, niche or sub-market. One keyword phrase is really not going to get you where you need to be.

    You jumped the gun. The research should have come first - before you put a lot of work into developing a blog or site. This would have revealed the weakness in the product prior to the time and monetary investment in site creation.

    3. If the current product has bad reviews, seek out other similar products to see how they are being received by the market.

    4. You state that you are shooting for first page of Google - again, research. Who is currently on the first page for that keyword? Are they weak or strong competitors? What other keywords are they using to penetrate the market? Is there even a market to penetrate?

    Don't be discouraged by a few hiccups; stay in this industry long enough and you will feel like you have chronic hiccups. It happens and it's par for the course.
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  • Profile picture of the author Suka
    Thanks allot for the Tips guys, Apreciate the quick reply's

    Just a question regarding the keywords in each page. Is one page enough for the keyword i'm targeting?

    (As per Mats Explination each page is promoting a different keyword, but i want all the pages to have the same keyword phrase in it as i am trying to rank for that phrase)

    What i mean is would it be a good idea to create multiple pages/blogs with reference to the same keyword phrase in the title/body. Basically would this help with SEO or be a good idea to Target only the One keyword phrase in all of my pages?

    If i wanted to target the same keyword in all my pages, would the titles have to include the keyword phrase? Or can they be relating to the phrase, and just use the keyword phrase in the body?

    I would love to show you guys my site so you can give me your opinions and suggestions but i don't want to give anything away. :p

    Thanks in advance
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    • Profile picture of the author Matt Morgan
      Originally Posted by Suka View Post

      i want all the pages to have the same keyword phrase in it as i am trying to rank for that phrase)

      If i wanted to target the same keyword in all my pages, would the titles have to include the keyword phrase? Or can they be relating to the phrase, and just use the keyword phrase in the body?

      I would love to show you guys my site so you can give me your opinions and suggestions but i don't want to give anything away. :p

      Thanks in advance
      On one domain, ideally one page should target one keyword. If you want to create multiple pages on different domains and blogs for the same keyword phrase, you will become your 'own' competition, as your pages will be competing with each of the others.

      This can be done on different domains i suppose, doing a backlinking strategy to them.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    I agree with what Matt said and that's a good plan.

    But having said that an exact match domain for your keyword can give you a big boost in ranking.

    Before you invest in a domain though, you need to do the appropriate research to analyze the strength of your competition for that keyword (not sure if you have done that as you say the phrase "looks promising" but I don't know what you have done to determine that).

    Anyway, Kudos to you for wanting to promote quality products!

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    • Profile picture of the author Suka
      Hi Lee

      Here are the stats from Market Samurai for the keyword phrase i am going for.

      Searches:487 SEOT: 204 PBR:82% SEOC:331000 SEOTC:20000 SEO TCR:6% OCI: 17%

      looks promising?
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    • Profile picture of the author dpwilliams
      After hours of work, I found a forum, and there was a sticky about how crap the product is that i want to promote.
      (the info in the book can be found for free on the web.)
      Be sure to check this out before giving up...this may not be a credible opinion. Just do your research and check it out.

      If you have gone to the expense in time and money to set a site up for this product before giving up maybe you should purchase the product and see for yourself.

      Seems to me that the work you already put in may warrant that.

      It can also be said that the information in most ebooks can be found free on the web so I don't know if that would be a determining factor for me.
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      • Profile picture of the author Suka
        Originally Posted by dpwilliams View Post

        Be sure to check this out before giving up...this may not be a credible opinion. Just do your research and check it out.

        If you have gone to the expense in time and money to set a site up for this product before giving up maybe you should purchase the product and see for yourself.

        Seems to me that the work you already put in may warrant that.

        It can also be said that the information in most ebooks can be found free on the web so I don't know if that would be a determining factor for me.
        Very true, thanks for that.
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    • Profile picture of the author bretski
      At least you're taking action and that is admirable and will bring you a long way with this stuff, so good for you.

      It's up to you whether you continue to promote the product in question. Have you used the product or read the book and what do you really think? You can always sort of put the site that you have sort of on the back burner while you focus on another site. Maybe just post one article or post a day or every couple of days if you have confidence in the product. Chances are that if people are looking for reviews on the product they are not only looking for bad reviews....they might also be looking for good reviews that will give them the confidence to buy and if your site is one of the few with a good review then guess what? You get the sale.

      On the other hand, if the product really is a piece of crap that gets refunded all the time it might mess with your head every time you get a sale and then an immediate refund...just my two kopecks

      I think you've gotten some good advice here otherwise. Yes, keywords in your domain help and you can also create subdomains. Buying a new domain for each product can get pricey. Sure a .info is only a buck or two but when it comes time to renew you can wind up with a big bill on your hands.

      Don't feel bad that all your efforts have been in vain either. I have a few domains from when I first started that I have just about abandoned for other projects. Some I keep and others, for niches that didn't pan out for me, I dump or let expire.

      Hang in there. I think you have what it takes to make it... just continue to work hard and you WILL be rewarded.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    Yes, but that's only half of the equation. Now you need to look at the top 10 sites and see how easy (or hard) they would be to outrank.
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    • Profile picture of the author Suka
      Now thats the big quesion.

      I use Seoquake to look for backlinks, and PR and it doesnt make perfect sense to me but basically, from what i understand, is if i search for the phrase in quotes, i need to look at the backlinks to see if they are high.

      Now this is were i get confused.

      There is a article submitted for my phrase, and onSEO quake it says L 78 and LD 600987.. From my understanding this means that this website has 78 backlinks pointing to that page, and there are 600987 links pointing to the domain (in this case ehow.com)

      The biggest L i got for my exact phrase was 81 on the number 4 spot.

      so theoretically, if i got more than 100 back links plus some other stuff i could be above this person in google?

      Am i thinking correctly here? is this how it works?
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      • Profile picture of the author BigDaddys101
        Originally Posted by Suka View Post

        Now thats the big quesion.

        I use Seoquake to look for backlinks, and PR and it doesnt make perfect sense to me but basically, from what i understand, is if i search for the phrase in quotes, i need to look at the backlinks to see if they are high.

        Now this is were i get confused.

        There is a article submitted for my phrase, and onSEO quake it says L 78 and LD 600987.. From my understanding this means that this website has 78 backlinks pointing to that page, and there are 600987 links pointing to the domain (in this case ehow.com)

        The biggest L i got for my exact phrase was 81 on the number 4 spot.

        so theoretically, if i got more than 100 back links plus some other stuff i could be above this person in google?

        Am i thinking correctly here? is this how it works?

        Another thing to remember Suka is IMO user interaction has alot to do with ranking in Google changes things ALOT and there is probably no one person (besides the Google code writers) that know how exactly how it works. And even if one thing works one day it may get you de indexed the next. Which is pretty extreme but still happens on rare occasions.

        Backlinks PR SEO is a very small list when it comes to what Google considers. I have a couple of brand new sites with 20 - 30 backlinks and a domain that is pretty much irrelevant and strong competition with high PR's and a **** ton of backlinks. And the best possible reason I can come up with in my head that makes me outrank these heavy hitters is the fact that the bounce rate is below 10%, which I must admit is good for me.

        Alot of marketing depends on your style and there is NO one way that will be set in stone and make you get the results forever. My best advice is seriously analyze the data you have access to including Analytics, Webmaster Tools, Keyword Terms and whatever else you may be able to get your eyes on.

        Of course learning and understanding the data may be a bit tricky at first but do it enough you will get the hang of it.
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    Oh...by the way....just about any information that you might want or need on any subject is available for free on the internet so don't discount any product just because the info is available for free elsewhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author cpace32
    Regarding the SEO keyword question, stick with one domain, multiple landing pages. For instance:

    xyz.com -> Main keyword
    xyz.com/keyword1.html -> keyword1
    xyz.com/keyword2.html -> keyword2

    etc. This will reduce your up front costs, and keep everything simple.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    so theoretically, if i got more than 100 back links plus some other stuff i could be above this person in google?

    Am i thinking correctly here? is this how it works?
    Sort of but not exactly because not all back links are equal. So if that site had 100 PR5 backlinks you would need equivalent links.

    Also, I'm not sure about searching in quotes to determine the strength of your competition. I search without quotes because that's how people search. I haven't used SEOQuake so I'm not sure if using quotes means something else in there?

    I think it is a good sign about the ehow page though because usually the back links to those articles are not high PR BUT the domain does have some authority so you'd have to do quite a bit better to outrank it on a new domain.

    BTW with SET of 204 you would need to get to #1 or #2 to see any traffic IMHO. Also, make sure there are no google pictures at the top, especially if it is a product type keyword as I have found that sucks off all the traffic.

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  • Profile picture of the author tgro03
    Originally Posted by Suka View Post

    So i have created a blog, and set up a home page promoting a guide.

    After hours of work, I found a forum, and there was a sticky about how crap the product is that i want to promote.
    (the info in the book can be found for free on the web.)
    Remember, that time is money. The fact that the info can be found online isn't really the point. Virtually all info can be found online. The point is that if the ebook contains good information they are providing a service since they collected it all and put it into an easy to read format. Most people don't want to take the time to go online and hunt down information. So don't let that aspect of it bother you.
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