How Can An Internet Marketing Peon Get The Attention Of The Super-Aff?

And they still do

You know why they do that? Because most of them likely have never done anything outside the make money niche, and aren't capable of coming up with a credible example of their own.

I know that there's no way to trick or force an affiliate to promote my product, but I just want to know if there are any easy ways to get it in front of them so they can just consider it. It's one of those catch 22's where you can't get a lot of affiliates to promote your product without high gravity and you can't get high gravity without getting a lot of affiliates to promote your product.

My product actually just got approved yesterday and today is the first day my product can be seen in CB's marketplace, but I'm just trying to be proactive, so it doesn't end up just fizzling out at the bottom of the marketplace.

I bought some dog training plr awhile back before I knew how tough a niche it was

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BY POSTING A NEW THREAD ON THE WARRIOR FORUM IN ALL CAPS ASKING THE ABOVE QUESTION

Please don't shout your posts. Using all Caps is considered Shouting.

Touche, but it's a real question. And sorry for "shouting." I won't do it again...unless I look in the terms of use and there's nothing prohibiting it

And Robert, I'd be willing to give a performance incentive for good sellers if that's what you mean. Problem is just finding good sellers.

:-) Good.

I should clarify, your investment in the
marketing of your product indicates you
don't believe in your product - from the
perspective of an affiliate.

You can greatly improve your copy by
cutting all extraneous words, alone. It
will make it more punchy.

Gotta go - doing 117 in the Ferrari, I've
already kept my eyes off the road too
long.

All the best to you - X


Sent from my trendy gadget.

Well I left for a while and just got back and it looks like I've been ripped two or three new ***holes. I'll try to put all the good advice about changes to use. One thing I noticed is that every one keeps asking about how the site has been converting. As I said, today is literally the first day it has been in the marketplace. I just finished it and I have not promoted it. As it sits now I have had 26 hits generated from affiliates and no sales.

Hi JRobinson,

Actually, taking a look at Alexa's site -- it appears she has more business than she wants right now, so hence has an 'under construction' sign. Sometimes when you write well -- you get clients asking you to write for them over and over, so it's possible she already has a full time income from writing and doesn't want any more work. That's perfectly acceptable -- and for her services she would not be looking for affiliates.

As for your site --

Since it does appear that you are trying to emulate the 'IM' (Internet Marketing) Style site, there are a few things that are lacking that you would need in order to attract super affiliates.

a) Conversion Rate. Almost all (intelligent) affiliates want to know how well your site converts, and generally want proof. So if 1000 people went to your site, how many would buy? If you don't have this kind of information (and proof), (intelligent) affiliates won't be interested. Alternatively, some affiliates will look for common elements of 'successful' sites, which again your site doesn't have (i.e., testimonials, engaging headline, etc).

b) Sales Page. I actually did read your salespage in entirety.You are actually wrong about a couple items.
i) You actually can make money by giving away music (cds) for free -- and people have been discovered that way (i.e., demo tape?) However -- I would agree that to increase your chances of being discovered, you need to take more action that simply just doing that.
ii) As soon as you said you've worked with Grammy award winners, I'm wondering -- where is your photo? People in that kind of environment generally don't mind exposure -- yet you seem hidden. Plus quite honestly -- the site looks like you did it yourself (the graphics chosen look like cheap clipart images or something you got from google images).

While I commend you for actually taking action and putting a site together (most people don't even do that) -- reading the copy seems like you've written what you 'think' should be written, as to actually identifiying with a reader looking to make it big into the scene. Based on the copy itself, I would say you have either zero experience within the music industry, or you might have been a tech (i.e., lighting, sound check, etc) that observed other artists recording, etc. You need to have much more compelling copy. (You may of course have had much more success than that -- but from what you've written it doesn't come across that way. It comes across as a 'PLEASE buy me! I really want you to buy this! I've worked really hard on this website! PLEASE buy me!' That's the 'feeling' I got from reading your copy.

So -- what could you do to make this a more 'compelling' website?

a) Get new graphics. They look cheap right now.
b) Either really learn how to identify with your potential market, or hire a professional copywriter . You need emotion, you need benefits, you need to explain why your product is the best, and what it will do for them. Based on you copy, I have no clue what it is about other than you 'told' me to buy it. You also need specifics. Which artists "make millions" selling by themselves? What have you personally done to help others? Give at least a hint of what they do.
c) Other elements like headers, taglines, etc, need work. "Making a killing" is so cliche in the Internet marketing world that you could have just said 'Wash your car windows with this CD!' (except ironically that sounds more interesting than what you currently have as a headline, and would more likely get people to read what you wrote). Something even like "How reading this guide can turn your dream into reality of being a recording artist" sounds better.

In a nutshell -- based on what you've written, I would say you've maybe worked in the music industry as a tech (for lighting/sound check, etc) for 2-3 years, and now feel you are qualified to give advice. (You may very well be qualified, but based on your copy it doesn't sound like it). The site also comes across a bit needy. I would also say you have some programming experience simply because of the countdown timer you incorporated, and have dabbled in that as well.

If there genuinely is useful information in the guide, and you genuinely can help people achieve their dreams as a recording artist, and you want to emulate the IM style websites, then there is a lot of serious work that needs to be done. But, you've definitely made a good start, so congrats on that.

- J

I really don't like how you jumped back at someone who is a full time internet marketer and a highly respected warrior.

You just saw the link in he signature and jumped to a conclusion.

Did you search her previous posts?
Did you see the number of times she has been thanked by WF members?

If you don't want anyone's advice, just don't ask for it and if you want advice from a specific group of people, STATE IT.

If you ask for advice and criticism, take it.

Wow...someone got their feelings hurt LOL

Alexa wasn't asking for advice but you were...dont get made when she gives it.

If you looked at Alexa's profile here in WF you would see the hundreds of people who have thanked and praised her.

I'm a newbie here but I knew to at least check out a person's reputation before spouting off..

I wanted to add another little tid bit to my previous post.

The simple truth of the matter is, that these super affiliates don't care about you - why should they?

Think about it...

Why would super affiliate guru help out some random person they never met before when instead they can help out their good buddy who has something they can repay them with (a reciprocal mailing).

Heck, super affiliates email me a lot asking if I will promote for them and sometimes I even ignore their emails and I'm just a small time dude.

It comes down to this:

• Have a bad ass product that sells well with proof
• And be friends with them
• OR have something of value you can use as leverage - aka a mailing list.

Actually, that's a good point.

I was reading somewhere (don't know how true it is) -- but that musicians make the bulk of there money from actual concerts, not from the selling of CDs, etc. Giving away the CDs (or equivalent, i.e., itunes, etc) -- is to get their name out there.

- J

Beyond the advice you've received so far...

That green font color and the two column text layout make your page a struggle (at best) to read. I agree that you've got bigger problems than finding super (or any) affiliates at the moment.

That said...congratulations on getting your product together and doing something. It's far better to take action and then take steps to correct your path than to wait for everything to be perfect before you do anything.