Article Marketing is killing the 'information super-highway'

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Has anyone else noticed that more and more spun articles are getting ranked just because they have a ton of BLs? Any ideas on how to 'fix the system', so to speak, or do you just think that Bing will take advantage of the problems?

Just curious, it's been VERY annoying lately trying to find actual information on anything that can point to a product of any kind.

Or are you the one putting the spun junk everywhere? :-p
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  • Profile picture of the author Digital Storm
    I agree with you that anything spun is clogging up the net. You do a search for a certain topic and you get all of these results that all basically say the same thing.

    It is frustrating!

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    • Profile picture of the author ArticlePrince
      Originally Posted by christopherNV View Post

      I'm not sure there is anything you can do to fix the system as long as google values backlinks as a measuring stick for ranking pages.

      Problem is, if you don't use backlinks, what do you use?

      You could say quality content but then how is an automated bot and computer supposed to know what is and isn't accurate and useful.

      The only solution I can think of is if google didn't give credit for backlinks with 0 PR. It's not a perfect solution and I can think of a couple of problems with this method off the top of my head but it would eliminate most of the quick and easy backlinks, like profiles and article directories.

      And imagine the uproar around here if they did that.
      It would be a Google slap of epic proprtions. But it seems like a catch 22 to me... Users will continue to get frustrated as the results get less and less relevant, but changing it would only leave them with authority sites.

      Although, if they did eliminate PR0 backlinks as a factor, there would be much less competition from spammers. Plus, everyone would have to focus more on quality. I agree though; there are far too many problems for it to be solved that easily.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Lotter
    I was actually thinking about the same thing last week.

    The problem is that people are sending hordes of spun content out just for backlinks and not worrying about how it actually reads.

    Personally, I decided to work my butt off and I have only ever published unique articles which I have properly researched and written, hoping to stand out from the crowd submitting spun "nonsensicle nonsense the is not sense making".

    It may take me a lot longer and it's a lot more work, but by offering the public better value, I am trusting that I will be rewarded for my efforts.

    Some call it Karma, I say you get what you give.

    I'm sure Google is going to figure out a way to deal with this issue though, or maybe one day the article directories are going to stop allowing links in articles and put an end to article marketing as we know it.
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    • Profile picture of the author ArticlePrince
      Originally Posted by Nick Lotter View Post

      I was actually thinking about the same thing last week.

      The problem is that people are sending hordes of spun content out just for backlinks and not worrying about how it actually reads.

      Personally, I decided to work my butt off and I have only ever published unique articles which I have properly researched and written, hoping to stand out from the crowd submitting spun "nonsensicle nonsense the is not sense making".

      It may take me a lot longer and it's a lot more work, but by offering the public better value, I am trusting that I will be rewarded for my efforts.

      Some call it Karma, I say you get what you give.

      I'm sure Google is going to figure out a way to deal with this issue though, or maybe one day the article directories are going to stop allowing links in articles and put an end to article marketing as we know it.
      I think people forget that readers are who they sell to... that spun junk will get you backlinks, but no traffics or subscribers. I've done just fine and never used a spinner, but who knows. Anyone reading this used spinning and noticed a difference profit wise?
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  • Profile picture of the author tyroneshum
    I have to say I've also experienced this and it's really frustrating that scammers are continuing to dominate niches and I don't think as well it is controllable by Google since it's just a bot itself and it crawls depending on content activity so the more articles they submit, the more they'll have their chances to be seen on the pages.

    How clever people have advanced in developing article spinning more and more -- it's going to be content to Google than content to people who should benefit in learning.
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    • Profile picture of the author ArticlePrince
      Originally Posted by tyroneshum View Post

      I have to say I've also experienced this and it's really frustrating that scammers are continuing to dominate niches and I don't think as well it is controllable by Google since it's just a bot itself and it crawls depending on content activity so the more articles they submit, the more they'll have their chances to be seen on the pages.

      How clever people have advanced in developing article spinning more and more -- it's going to be content to Google than content to people who should benefit in learning.
      I'm all for submitting a ton of articles, as long as they actually provide information. My wife tried to look up how to get a stain out of a white couch and found an article advising tomato juice and shampoo... and promoting a guide on how to clean anything... enough said.
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  • Profile picture of the author Charleskidd
    Yes I have noticed a difference, plus the original post all ways does better for me when it comes to traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author excoder01
    That's why the web is not really good source of trusted information.

    It's now called "The Age of Mis-information"
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    • Profile picture of the author ArticlePrince
      Originally Posted by excoder01 View Post

      That's why the web is not really good source of trusted information.

      It's now called "The Age of Mis-information"
      The problem with that is that it's required for research; most collegiate papers require a certain number of sources from the internet. Obviously, I wouldn't use information from EZA for those type of papers; it's just more and more difficult to find correct (let alone trusted) information.
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      • Profile picture of the author excoder01
        Originally Posted by ArticlePrince View Post

        The problem with that is that it's required for research; most collegiate papers require a certain number of sources from the internet. Obviously, I wouldn't use information from EZA for those type of papers; it's just more and more difficult to find correct (let alone trusted) information.
        Ya, I can't imagine high school or college students these days citing EZA as their source of reference. Imagine the teachers going to the source to find it's promoting a Clickbank product....
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  • Profile picture of the author seoindiaforu
    The answer rests with Google...if they stop valuing backlinks..then spamming for gaining backlinks would decrease considerably.
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    • Profile picture of the author excoder01
      Originally Posted by seoindiaforu View Post

      The answer rests with Google...if they stop valuing backlinks..then spamming for gaining backlinks would decrease considerably.
      But then, won't spammers go back to "old school" keyword stuffing?
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
    This leads to the real issue facing marketers, you must create an audience.

    Instead of trusting to just have SEO traffic you need to create fans and social sharing of your identity and authority in a niche or on a topic.

    If you can become the "trusted" source within your market then SEO become less relevant to you. People will be finding you, not an EZA article.

    What I would expect to see is the SERP finding a way to measure this social proof or media through social activity on information sources. This will then allow them to weigh social proof as a part of the algorithm and further decrease the weight of PR0 sites.

    The problem with much of this comes back to a simple fact though...You can create a PR1, PR2, PR3 article just by working a little harder on your backlinking. While most people spinning articles for backlink fodder will never go to this much trouble, they might if the PR0 slap occurs.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dellco
      It is about time someone brought up this issue, because it is a BIG issue.

      But I don't think you are going to get a lot of supporters for your rant since probably at least 90% of the members here are into doing this type of thing, and are busy submitting a gazillion low quality articles a day. Best part is, most of these articles are either spun or not even written by themselves. It's called "outsourcing".

      Eric Schmidt was right when proclaimed the web a cesspool )
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    Most of the newbies on HubPages are doing this stuff, it's a shame the rest of the web isn't moderated so well.

    At some point Google will have a big purge in the competitive niches. Spun content is dead easy for a human to spot, so I'm sure they'll come up with an algorithm sooner or later.
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  • Profile picture of the author DogScout
    Notice the results Google has returned lately? Sites gaming the system are on top. Sites I am looking for and have any readable content seem to always be on page 5,6 or 7.

    Lately I just skip right to page 5 if I am using Google. Bing, Yahoo, Dogpile and every other SE seems to produce quality content results 1st. Google claims content is what will get you ranked, but why then do I see 4-5 sites that violate several of Google's webmaster no-nos on page one of every search? Because they have 10,000 manipulated back-links and 10,000 fake social bookmarks? Many now even have zero readable content (Just crappily spun gibberish)! Must be some secret.

    I Give Google a year, two at the most. Between do as I say - not as I do, the worst customer service on the net, obvious incongruities and sidewiki, a whole lot of folk just do not use them anymore for anything. Internet marketers more and more get their traffic from other sources. The most successful marketers I know get less than 10% of their traffic from Google search, AdWords or the Content Network. Writing is on the wall. They had a good run, but a couple years more at best.

    Bing is a more targeted consumer group now. In this economy, 55+ yrs old is the greatest group of affluent people that can and will buy. Many of them think AOL or MSN IS the internet! Especially in any niche health related, Bing will convert much higher than will Google. As Google allows more gibberish to game their algorithm, Bing and other SEs will rush to fill the customer service void Google leaves behind. This has happened in business a million times and will happen a million more.

    You will notice, even Perry Marshall who made his name on Adwords has almost backed off them completely and his content is more general marketing, more info on other sources like Facebook, and motivational in nature than anything to do with Google. He sees the writing on the wall as well and knows he needs to be more than just the author of 'The Definitive Guide to Adwords.' & 'Adwords for dummies'.
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