Is this Scam, SPAM, or Clever Marketing?

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Hi Guys,
In one of my response to a thread here a few months ago, I mentioned a "scam" like emails send to my day job's company. Well, coincidentally, I received another mail today, only this time it is in English.

I called it " SCAM LIKE" because i think they are legitimate company, but using a very bad and tricky sales practice. They basically wanted to trick us into buying and registration of a .cn .hk or any other domain extension from the domain name we already owned.

One of my HK marketing friend argue that this is a Clever Marketing Tactics that work around the "Fear of Loss" Psychology. I just could not agree with him at all.



Here's copy of the email I received
( I had deleted some name or company info for privacy, but is pretty much intact)

************************************************** *******

----- Original Message -----

From: jay
Date: 2010-08-22 14:46:31
To: jason.ser
Cc:
Subject: About " my company domain " Domain dispute ( TO CEO & Manager )

Dear CEO & Manager,

We are a domain name registration and dispute organization in Asia, which mainly deal with the global companies' domain name registration and internet Intellectual property right protection in Asia. Currently, we have a pretty important issue needing to confirm with your company.

On February 3,2010, we received an application formally.One company named " Bchaist Holdings Ltd " wanted to applied for the network keyword " (my company's domain) " and some domain names through our body.

Now we are handling with the registration of these domain names and find that these names and network keyword is identical with your company's. So we have to confirm with you at two points:
1. If your company consign Bchaist
company to register these domain names and network keyword, we will send application form to them and help them finish the registration at once.
2. If your company have nothing to do with Bchaist company, they maybe have other purposes to register these names and Network Keyword.


We haven't finished the registration of Bchaist company yet, and we have postponed this application of this company temporarily already. In order to deal with this issue better, please contact us by telephone or email as soon as possible.

Waiting for your reply ASAP.


Best Regards,

Jay

Jay Lee
Auditing Department
Hongkong Headquarter:
(: Tel: 00852-8135-XXXX
Ê: Fax: 00852-XXXX
*: Email:Jay@XXX. hk
:: Web: http://www.XXX. hk


************************************************** *******
What do you guts think? Do you think this is a SCAM , SPAM or CLEVER MARKETING?:rolleyes:

Cheers
Jason Ser


P/S: The Original Thread I response to is here:
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ive-email.html








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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
    I'd say they probably want to just sell you the domains and then at a high price cos they'll say the other firm will pay x amounts. Have you checked if the other company exists? You could even call them and ask them if they want the domains.

    You could always just go and buy the domains yourself (or the firm could) as they don't appear to have got them for their "client" yet, you could then email or phone them and say "thanks for the heads up, I just bought the domains at namecheap (or whatever) for $5, thanks for letting me know"

    The english doesn't read right either. My 7 year old nephew is here and he spotted errors himself!
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    Wibble, bark, my old man's a mushroom etc...

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  • Profile picture of the author RichardHK
    This is a scam.

    If you want a .hk domain you need to go through the HKDNR organization in town here.

    What would you want a .hk domain for anyway? Most surfers here speak/write Chinese and only use for .hk is for local business.

    I have a .hk domain that I am now retiring after learning so much about IM the last few weeks. Have learnt why very few folk visit my site.
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    Richard, Hong Kong
    Business Consulting

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  • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
    Just ignore these emails and delete them.

    If you search this forum (or even Google), you'll see plenty of folks have received this same letter or some version of it. It's not legit.

    Delete and move on.

    Cheers,
    Becky
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Davis
    I would simply ignore it and delete it... I don't believe that anything that isn't written in proper English is real... Legitimate companies hire people that know several languages fluently for correspondence and this email certainly isn't fluent proper English.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      It's a scam.

      Ignore and delete.

      Don't reply to it, because that's just confirming that your email address exists and that you received it, and you'll get even more.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    It's a scam that has been going around a lot to try to get you to register a bunch of worthless domains. Place in trashcan or spam folder.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    It's a total scam, and I can prove it. Don't do anything. You'll see that the domain they say someone wants to register never gets registered. It's a scam because they are lying to you that they received a registration application. It's all a lie. Lie = scam.

    Even if it wasn't, does it matter? I've had people register the .net and .org versions of my .com domains before. They disappear in a year if you refuse to buy them from them at inflated prices. Of course, someone could make a go at it if they worked hard, but most won't, and the .com is usually the one that does the bet.
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  • Profile picture of the author Toplink
    I would call it scam like marketing. I got loads of them from China. I actually registered a couple of domains (through another orgainsation) before I realoised what was going on.

    The questions I asked myself were:

    Are these TLDs really available? Yes.
    ****, I better register them? Maybe
    Do I really need those TLDs? No.

    Now I ignore them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aussie_Striker
    Pretty sure I got one something like that once and I thought with the extensions they were offering why would I bother...

    There is another way to deal with these though. Play along and give them some made up details to submit. Bogus paypal or something. They will come back with the fact that it isn't working and you apologise and give say you will fix it. Lead them on sao they think they are getting the deal but in reality you are wasting their time and possibly preventing someone else getting scammed because they are concentrating on getting your business...while all the while you are sitting back laughing at them.

    Some time ago I saw some video of people that were scamming the scammers. These were bigtime scams where they were supposed to be paying the scammers thousands of dollars. So they arranged meetings, mostly in front of known public webcam street view locations and videoed them standing there waiting...and waiting etc...
    Later when contacted they would apologise saying an emergency came up and they couldn't make it. They also taped phone calls and showed emails recieved. These scammers travelled overseas and spent a few weeks trying to get $x thousands of dollars and left empty handed and frustrated...serves them right.

    Quite funny stuff. They never put themself in danger by actually meeting them or giving them any details apart from maybe a phone number and email address (which they already had anyway).

    Scam the scammers, pretty sure if you do a search there will be stuff on there. Good for a laugh.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Aussie_Striker View Post

      Lead them on sao they think they are getting the deal but in reality you are wasting their time and possibly preventing someone else getting scammed because they are concentrating on getting your business...while all the while you are sitting back laughing at them.
      My own guess is that many Warriors have available alternative sources of entertainment which don't confirm the activity of their own email addresses to scammers and therefore result in a further deluge of spam offering various additional scams. Just my own little theory.
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      • Profile picture of the author CIKMarketing
        I would vote scam. Usually spam doesn't even relate to your business, it's just a blind email sent to as many people as possible. This on the other hand is trying to deceive the receiver and therefore would classify as a "scam," although not a good one.

        I'm sure, unfortunately, that there are innocent people out there falling for scams like this every day.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan Kovats
    There probably is $10 million dollars in an account for you, if you can only help the guy secure it from his wealthy deceased uncle too.
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  • Profile picture of the author theconsultantseo
    It is totally scam. They want to get your original domain
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