But what's your article keyword criteria?

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Hey!

Article marketing is an interesting one, with dividing information over what keyword criteria to use in terms of a main article keyword.

What criteria do you use in picking your main keyword?

Sam
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  • Profile picture of the author TheAnnoyingOrange
    Originally Posted by sam132 View Post

    Hey!

    Article marketing is an interesting one, with dividing information over what keyword criteria to use in terms of a main article keyword.

    What criteria do you use in picking your main keyword?

    Sam
    Sites in top 10 have to use minimal backlinks or a medium range of backlinks that are not well anchored and are not from high PR sites. They must not be authority sites (unless they have the criteria above) and the keywords I go for usually have more than 100 searches/day.

    - Competing Pages is irrelevant!!

    Best of Luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Apollo-Articles
      Interesting comment on competing pages, since this would put most people (including myself) off if there is a high amount of sites competing on the same keyword?

      I've heard the formula:
      1,000+ searches per month and "In quotes Google search" has less than 10,000 results.

      Is recommended, what do you think?

      Sam
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by sam132 View Post

        I've heard the formula:
        1,000+ searches per month and "In quotes Google search" has less than 10,000 results.

        Is recommended, what do you think?
        I think that The Annoying Orange, in his post just above, is totally right: the quantity of the competition is completely irrelevant.

        Here's a question for you, Sam: would you rather be using as your main keyword something which has 12,000,000 sites listed in Google but all the top 5 sites are PR-0 and PR-1 sites with only a few hundred backlinks each, or something which has only 12,000 sites listed, but all the front page SERP's listings are age-old, high-PR authority sites with thousands of backlinks from other high PR authority sites? Bit of a no-brainer, isn't it?

        In terms of importance to you, the quality of your competition is everything; the quantity means nothing at all.

        You're only competing with the top 5 sites, aren't you? Who cares if they're the top 5 out of 12,000 or out of 12,000,000?

        Originally Posted by sam132 View Post

        this would put most people (including myself) off
        Think again, then. A lot of the regurgitated stuff in those "guidebooks" and "instruction manuals" and "blueprints" people sell may be wrong.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by sam132 View Post

        I've heard the formula:
        1,000+ searches per month and "In quotes Google search" has less than 10,000 results.

        Is recommended, what do you think?

        Sam
        It's definitely a formula, no doubt about it.

        Here's a couple of facts that shed a little more light on things...

        > For any given individual search, Google will never return more than 999 results. Sticking with the formula you gave, if the phrase has 9,999 competing pages, 9,000 are automatically irrelevant. At most, you are competing with 999 sites for a spot in the search results.

        > Most people won't go past the first page (I've heard 70%, but can't back it up). So, for 70% of your searchers, anything past the top ten is irrelevant. The searcher will change their search and try again, rather than wade through pages of results which, supposedly by definition, get less relevant as you go deeper.

        > Even the people like me, who have discovered that the best results can be buried a few pages deep, don't have the patience to go more than 5 or 10 pages deep before changing our search queries.

        So your real competition could be anywhere from 10 to 999 results.

        Formulas like the one you found do have their uses. The further out you go on the long tail, the more likely they are to give you something you can work with. If I'm looking at some obscure 5 or 6 word phrases, and one has 10,000 results and the other 5,000 with similar search volume, the one with 5,000 is probably going to be easier to nail early.

        I like to look at two things:

        > How fast do I think I can land on page 2, where I can get a portion of the 30% who do go on?

        > How likely am I to crack the top ten with a little time and work?

        Ideally, I can get into the top 20 quickly and easily, and the top ten will look doable.
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  • Profile picture of the author PeterSparks
    I look for keywords that other articles rank for that get good traffic.
    These articles are often not optimized for certain keywords yet rank pretty well for them.

    I find these keywords by searching articles that received a lot of traffic (views) and type their address in the google keyword tool and use ranktracker (free) to see where they stand.
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    • Profile picture of the author Apollo-Articles
      Hey thanks for your replies, especially Alexa and John,

      The problem is how do I know:

      > How likely am I to crack the top ten with a little time and work?

      Is this purely done on the competing pages back-links? If so how many back links is too many?

      Many thanks for your time and great help,

      Sam
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by sam132 View Post

        Hey thanks for your replies, especially Alexa and John,

        The problem is how do I know:

        > How likely am I to crack the top ten with a little time and work?

        Is this purely done on the competing pages back-links? If so how many back links is too many?

        Many thanks for your time and great help,

        Sam
        Sam, if the top ten results are well-established authority sites with tons of links and tons of pages, it's going to take a major effort, time and some luck to unseat them.

        Pulling an example out of thin air, if you're writing about changes in tax law for investors, and the top sites are mainly government agencies and established brokers, with a smattering of sites like Yahoo Finance or MSN Finance, beating them is pretty long odds.

        On the other hand, if the top spots are sites like EZA, eHow, blogs, etc. with few back links and few pages, you can beat them with good linking, good content and a little patience.

        Keep in mind, to get on the front page of search results, you don't have to beat ten pages. You only have to beat one.
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by sam132 View Post

        Hey thanks for your replies, especially Alexa and John,

        The problem is how do I know:

        > How likely am I to crack the top ten with a little time and work?

        Is this purely done on the competing pages back-links? If so how many back links is too many?

        Many thanks for your time and great help,

        Sam
        Honestly, this will vary from keyword to keyword... You have to take an honest look at your competition to know what is really possible...

        Look at the top 5 results in Google or wherever and try to get an idea of the backlinks those sites have to the specific page in the results, and how many of those links targeted the specific search phrase...

        You will never get the full story by mining the backlink info from Google, so it is nice to dig into Yahoo's list of backlinks for a particular web page to get an idea of what is there that is closer to the reality of what Google is working with...

        I have cracked top ten in only a couple of hours before with little to no work, but there are other cases I have been working for years to break into the top ten...

        No keywords that are ripe for the picking are easy to find... But once you identify the low-hanging fruit, getting to the top can be sooo easy....
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  • Profile picture of the author PeterGarety
    I never think about articles as a way to get traffic from search engines. I only look for on top article in each category in EzineArticles, and I use those articles main keywords to create articles.

    Furthermore, I use EzineArticles search box to find out what kind of keyword structure top 10 articles have. Then I use that to create articles.

    Peter
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by PeterGarety View Post

      I never think about articles as a way to get traffic from search engines. I only look for on top article in each category in EzineArticles, and I use those articles main keywords to create articles.
      So if people write articles with totally inappropriate, useless keywords, and (as many people do) build endless backlinks to them so that they're among the highest-viewed articles at EZA, in spite of producing absolutely no income for the author at all, those are the ones whose keywords you're going to copy?! Well, it's certainly an "inventive and imaginative" criterion, Peter, I'll give you that ...
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    Is this purely done on the competing pages back-links? If so how many back links is too many?
    Yes, but it's not the number of backlinks, it's the quality of those links.

    A page that has 10000 PR0 backlinks with no anchor text could be a breeze to beat.

    But a page that has only 2 PR5 links would be hard to beat.

    So, you need to dig in and analyze the actual back links themselves.

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