Email List building with Co-Reg- Does this still work??

[Alex3700]

Hi,

Ok, rather than me continuing to read ebooks that were written in 2006, I wanted to get some quick feedback on whether or not co-reg list building is still considered effective?

Or, another way to say this is…are there still top marketers or companies using this method to build their email lists?

Yes, I’m aware that many “affiliates” will “game” this system by creating ways to get real people to unknowingly enter their real info, but, well…we all know that casino’s have employees that steal.

Meaning, I understand there are cons with this & every other every possible way in the world to make money…but, in late 2008…does this still work?

I currently have 4 different ebooks on this topic….but….rather than go any further into my research; I figured I would just ask for opinions or advice.

Are there any resources, blogs, coaching on this specific topic?? (I’m happy to pay for it—if the tactic is still viable.)

Alex Sawyer

[kkchoon]

I don't like co-reg... You can try but I heard many experts say it is crap.

I prefer to build my list from my own traffic, I know they are targeted to specific needs and I can tailor my followup email for them, convert a lot better!

[fbivens]

Hi Alex3700,

I would agree with kkchoon. To expand on this further, email list building is a technique rapidly moving into the obsolete category. Net users (afflicted with ADD!) are more & more targeting their searches for specific info, and email list building is a total shot in the dark...and usually annoying for the recipient. If you care to get more input feel free to give me a call.

[James Cumner]

OK, I'm going to disagree with the 2 guys above me:

- Email list building is still hugely important.
- Co-reg can still be hugely effective.

If co-reg didn't still work, then there wouldn't be multi-million dollar networks dedicated to it, turning over millions of dollars in ad sales to repeat advertisers.

Do you need to know how to work it right? Sure. But the ROI's you can achieve with co-reg are insane.

Oh, and by the way, just because an 'expert' says something doesn't work anymore, doesn't mean it's true.

James

[fbivens]

James,

You know, thanks for indirectly pointing out something to me. My reply was seen thru the goggles of a network marketer that creates very targeted, niched leads. If co-reg can do that, then I stand corrected.

(p.s...your website isn't opening; checked in IE & Firefox.)

[Floyd Fisher]

Before I answer your question, let me define what co registration really is.

It's advertising a list you own on a site you don't. It's that simple.

Does that work? It's devastatingly effective.

Where people go wrong is when they pay someone else to do that for them (this is called 'buying leads') and it can lead to big trouble.

Fortune 500 companies don't to that (the risk is too great for them to do so), instead they either:

a. Purchase ad space directly from websites to advertise an offer to sign up for their list (think monster.com and MLB and you get the idea)

b. JV with others (like Nestle Chocolate, FOX TV, and Fremantle Entertainment did recently using American Idol to help build their inhouse lists)

It's smart, and it works. That's all I can say.

[charles1]

Hey Floyd, i have no doubt that you know all aspects of email marketing inside and out. But, please tell me if i’m misunderstanding something.

It seems like what you described in letter (a), is not co-registration.

I feel ..just by it's name (co-reg) it implies that multiple companies are advertising their lists on a web site.

I have witnessed your example of a banner ad on monster*com, but, i have always looked at that as though it is "not" co-reg because there is only 1 company building the list. It seems to me that ....your example is plain old fashioned list building...but not co-reg list building.

When i think of co-reg list building, which is what the initial question was regarding, i think of a company, for example, abc , displaying 2+ or more mini banner ads, and allowing people to provide a minimum of their name and email addy in hopes on winning a prize. (ipod)

I'm not trying to be difficult; i'm just presenting my understanding here. I accept with a smile if i'm wrong.

Gary Charles Roblin

[HighSociety]

To answer your question bluntly - in my first month of doing co-registration for my business, I was getting a ROI of about 200% in one week.

Now, I'm sure anyone could get those numbers, but obviously you have to do things differently then the people who aren't successful!

The number 1 reason most people fail in co-registration is because their email deliverability sucks, or their leads aren't coming in real-time.

I'm in the process of creating a product that actually HELPS people do this co-reg thing right.
From the ground up - without losing a dime.

Let me know what you guys think about that!
Would anyone be interested?

[charles1]

Yes....yes...yes....i'm interested!!!

Gary Charles Roblin

[Jeff Henshaw]

I'm in the process of creating a product that actually HELPS people do this co-reg thing right.
From the ground up - without losing a dime.

Let me know what you guys think about that!
Would anyone be interested?

I would think that there would be quite a lot of people interested.

When you have created and tested it, don't forget to do a WSO before you put it on the market

Regards,
Jeff Henshaw.

[Floyd Fisher]

Originally Posted by charles1

Hey Floyd, i have no doubt that you know all aspects of email marketing inside and out. But, please tell me if i’m misunderstanding something.

It seems like what you described in letter (a), is not co-registration.

I feel ..just by it's name (co-reg) it implies that multiple companies are advertising their lists on a web site.

I have witnessed your example of a banner ad on monster*com, but, i have always looked at that as though it is "not" co-reg because there is only 1 company building the list. It seems to me that ....your example is plain old fashioned list building...but not co-reg list building.

When i think of co-reg list building, which is what the initial question was regarding, i think of a company, for example, abc , displaying 2+ or more mini banner ads, and allowing people to provide a minimum of their name and email addy in hopes on winning a prize. (ipod)

I'm not trying to be difficult; i'm just presenting my understanding here. I accept with a smile if i'm wrong.

Gary Charles Roblin

Here's the screen shot of what I'm talking about:



Note: All trademarks are property of their respective owners.

Here's the deal: MLB held an all star vote. Monster.com paid the sponsor fee. In exchange for the deal, they let them put a co reg link for their list into the actual all star ballot.

It's not about banner ads, it's about co reg checkboxes.

[SolomonHuey]

I don't use co-reg currently.

But I'd just like to point out that if you haven't seriously attempted to use co-reg before, you shouldn't be commenting on whether it works or not.

I use methods that most people say "don't work". While my results aren't anything amazing, I've built a list of 5,000 using techniques that "don't work".

So before you dismiss co-registration, pay attention to the people that are actually taking action and getting results. If someone is having success, that's proof that it can be done.

And to follow up, I'd be interested in learning more about co-reg as well!

[Alminc]

OK, you guys who are using co-registration successfully could
give us some more details.

I tried List Builder Pro but after I got 2000 crappy, totally
non-responsive yahoo emails I quit.

Details needed for successful co-reg campaigns:

- exactly what autoresponder service to use, that allows lead import
- exactly where to purchase good leads at affordable prices
- exactly how to eliminate spam accusations


I like the dual autoresponder system described by mikep78, I would
do it the same way. But everything starts with the first autoresponder
with imported leads and sending out first emails, that's the critical
phase.

Besides, any good experiences with Getsubscribers.com ?

[Floyd Fisher]

Originally Posted by Alminc

OK, you guys who are using co-registration successfully could
give us some more details.

I tried List Builder Pro but after I got 2000 crappy, totally
non-responsive yahoo emails I quit.

Details needed for successful co-reg campaigns:

- exactly what autoresponder service to use, that allows lead import
- exactly where to purchase good leads at affordable prices
- exactly how to eliminate spam accusations


I like the dual autoresponder system described by mikep78, I would
do it the same way. But everything starts with the first autoresponder
with imported leads and sending out first emails, that's the critical
phase.

Besides, any good experiences with Getsubscribers.com ?

At the risk of getting banned, I'll tell you my details.

1. I don't buy leads, I use co reg master (which I sell) and do my own co reg promotions via joint venture with other sites. Leads are just too dangerous anymore, so I stopped endorsing that method awhile ago.

2. Almost any autoresponder (except for Aweber) will allow co reg master generated opt ins into their autoresponder (check with them first before proceeding, never can be too careful). Some allow post/get (which is best, especially on shared hosting), some allow subscribe emails, some require I generate a lead sheet (most painful method).

3. To keep the spam risk down, always use confirmed opt in, be very accurate in describing what they are signing up for, and enforce your privacy policy even with co reg opt ins.

Hope this helps.

[BBAkwe]

I'll be interested in using CO-Reg leads the right way.