Transparency & Exposure Online In Today's World

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I was reading an article about a college football coach and how he explained to his players that the Internet is very transparent and that anyone with a cell phone can catch a quick picture anytime... that anyone can say anything they want... and that the players should guard themselves and always keep in mind that someone is watching.

Very interesting. Imagine being a star athlete with tons of followers in today's Internet world.

For online marketers... there's transparency and exposure, review blogs and forums, haters and chastisers and anyone can post an opinion about anything good, bad or ugly... hurtful or shameful, attacking or downright slanderous.

Regardless, there's plenty of sites and offers with HUGE credibility... loads of followers... household names across the world... like Amazon, Wal-Mart, Sears, etc. A site and affiliate program for Amazon.com is quite trustworthy and people dont really question the site. NOW, they may question the product on the site -- and there are plenty of amazon listed products with reviews (yes negative too).

So, there are plenty of prized, well trusted, proven products and services to promote as an affiliate and not worry too much about the trancparency rich world we now live in.

With all this, I cannot help but to think of the importance of "treating people right". I cannot help but think of how important it is to "do the right thing"... and how important it is to build trust with your list and customers.

Think if you used the "transparency" to your benefit, and just did good business the best you can? Think about providing more in "use-value" than you do in "cash-value" and think about how you can over-deliver the best you can.

Now, this in itself is easier said than done.

It's hard to not rip on a customer who takes advantage of you, or who is a seriel refunder, or someone who is well... a jackass. It's hard to be nice, hard to swallow that pride and be nice. I often battle this myself.

However, I'll give you a recent example of how I'm going all out to treat people better than I ever have in the past (even though I think I've done a pretty good job of that in the past, but not 100% of course).

One customer hammered my help desk with tickets, called my office and also sent me very negative comments. In this product I sold, not one person has said one negative thing yet. Not even a hint of anything negative. IN fact, just the opposite. Nothing but pure glowing remarks so far. But this one customer was very demanding, asking for point-blank personal help and mentoring on a non-one-on-one mentoring program.

I decided to offer a refund, and then asked the customer to lay out questions and I'd answer them. The customer took the refund, and asked the questions. I answered the questions, gave one on one advice and all of that after the refund was issued.

Will this customer blast me? I hope not, but you never know. I'm not in charge of what the customer does. But, I sure went out of my way to overdeliver... for free. BTW, the questions had NOTHING to do with the product I sold at all. The negativitiy was in the form of threats, and the customer grouped me in with a different marketer who gets a bad rap in our IM niche. This customer spent over 5k with this other marketer and just spent 77 with me, yet I was the big bad ugly guy -- only a few days into the program. Oh, and this customer admitted to not having gone through my stuff yet too.

All in all, I think it is evermost important to build "trust" with your list and customers... to create more of a following, and to focus on those who appreciate what you are doing and providing... and filter out the negative ones. I sometimes wish I could only have empowered, positive customers... who are motivated and driven... who appreciate and take action... but you and me both know that's not the case. Many are jaded, and for good reason too. Just look at the bad products and scams that pepper the net.

Anyway, I think you should do this:

Treat your customers and list how you'd LOVE to be treated yourself. Do that and I bet you'll be fine and dandy in this transparent, exposed world we now live in.

Respectfully,

Eric Louviere

PS - No, of course I'm not perfect (for the haters)
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Originally Posted by Eric Louviere View Post

    With all this, I cannot help but to think of the importance of "treating people right". I cannot help but think of how important it is to "do the right thing"... and how important it is to build trust with your list and customers.

    Think if you used the "transparency" to your benefit, and just did good business the best you can? Think about providing more in "use-value" than you do in "cash-value" and think about how you can over-deliver the best you can.

    Now, this in itself is easier said than done.

    ...

    Treat your customers and list how you'd LOVE to be treated yourself. Do that and I bet you'll be fine and dandy in this transparent, exposed world we now live in.
    Treating people right is always the right thing to do...

    If you find yourself in the company of people who do not believe or practice this simple concept, you should eject them from your life...

    I do, and I have no regrets for having done so...

    Thank you Eric for a really insightful and interesting post.

    p.s. Perfection eludes me also...

    A preponderance of action defines a habit...

    If I cannot correct the habit of the person whom I believe to be offending this principle, then I just simply remove that person from my life and move on...

    It is hard enough to fix me, but more so when the people I surround myself behave badly, convinced of their right to continue acting badly...
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    I would refund an unhappy customer immediately, especially a jerk like the one you described and cut all ties with him. I have way too many happy customers and don't really want to deal with the jerks.

    You spent a lot of time with him and maybe it will work out for you, but I'd rather put my time and energy into "nice" customers.
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  • Profile picture of the author LB
    Eric, you're a class act...but once a customer threatens me all bets are off when it comes to overdelivering. They will get a prompt refund though.

    If they are threatening slander or violence etc. I let them know the appropriate legal avenues are right there for me.

    The problem with overdelivering to someone who threatens you is that you just gave in to a bully and taught them that this kind of behavior gets results.

    I imagine he pats himself on the back for putting the screws to the "evil marketer".
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by LB View Post

      If they are threatening slander or violence etc. I let them know the appropriate legal avenues are right there for me.
      If people approach me threatening violence, I simply inform them that those of us who live in Oklahoma and Texas are "cowboys", who are not afraid to defend ourselves through any means necessary...

      I also let them know that as a resident of Oklahoma, I have a legal right to defend my home, and as a gun-owner, I am equipped to do so...

      If the person making the threats feels that he has the nads to test me, then he should Go Ahead And Make My Day... LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author ArticlePrince
    I lose my patience very quickly when threatened. While it's admiraable that you went out of your way to over deliver, that customer is just going to threaten everyone he/she buys a product from... you don't desrve that treatment, next time just refund politely and move on :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    I always hope that I will deliver in a way that a customer wishes they would have paid me more... but if a refund occurs... just let it go.
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  • Profile picture of the author sanssecret
    Originally Posted by Eric Louviere View Post



    With all this, I cannot help but to think of the importance of "treating people right". I cannot help but think of how important it is to "do the right thing"... and how important it is to build trust with your list and customers.
    Eric, I think this is great advice, and I wish more people would do it. But unfortunately, sometimes our view of what is 'the right thing' doesn't align with the customer's.

    Some folks are just jerks. You can't change them and you can't build up any level of trust with them. Whatever their prior experience has been, (offline as well as online) has resulted in them becoming what they are.

    Personal story - my daughter got involved with a jerk who, after a lot of court dealings, was assessed and certified as a 'psychopath'. When I commented on what sort of world we live in that can turn an innocent, beautiful baby into a raving, psychopathic lunatic, the particular forensic psychgologist involved in the case, explained there was evidence to show it was more to do with genetics than anything else. IMO, something had to have thrown that genetic switch. But regardless, no matter how much anyone tries to help that guy now, it will be a total waste of time and effort.

    Now, I don't think for a moment your customer is a psychopath, but I think some folks will just never see when you are doing the 'right thing'. I think what you did for this particular customer was waaayyyy beyond what any normal person would consider doing the right thing. Sadly, I also think it won't have made a blind bit of difference to them.

    On the other hand, it does make a difference to you. And that is powerful stuff.
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Louviere
      Originally Posted by sanssecret View Post

      Eric, I think this is great advice, and I wish more people would do it. But unfortunately, sometimes our view of what is 'the right thing' doesn't align with the customer's.

      Some folks are just jerks. You can't change them and you can't build up any level of trust with them. Whatever their prior experience has been, (offline as well as online) has resulted in them becoming what they are.

      Personal story - my daughter got involved with a jerk who, after a lot of court dealings, was assessed and certified as a 'psychopath'. When I commented on what sort of world we live in that can turn an innocent, beautiful baby into a raving, psychopathic lunatic, the particular forensic psychgologist involved in the case, explained there was evidence to show it was more to do with genetics than anything else. IMO, something had to have thrown that genetic switch. But regardless, no matter how much anyone tries to help that guy now, it will be a total waste of time and effort.

      Now, I don't think for a moment your customer is a psychopath, but I think some folks will just never see when you are doing the 'right thing'. I think what you did for this particular customer was waaayyyy beyond what any normal person would consider doing the right thing. Sadly, I also think it won't have made a blind bit of difference to them.

      On the other hand, it does make a difference to you. And that is powerful stuff.
      Exactly. In the past, I would have prolly went off and said all kinds of things. I would have used that "Texan" cockyness and ripped a new one. I've done that a bunch of times. But, when I made up my mind to "go out of my way" to treat people how I'd like to be treated, it changed everything.

      Perhaps it was a bad day... err week, perhaps something terrible is going on in her life... perhaps she is a psychopath... maybe she's lost, jaded, frustrated and sick. Maybe she's dumb and selfish. Who knows? I cant control her or anyone else for that matter.

      but, I can control me.

      And, I can control how I act and react to people -- even psychopaths.

      The more I do this, the less any of those jerks will effect my normally very positive attitude. Because, I dont know about you, but one ridiculous, jaded, psychopath can effect my state -- if I let it.

      Perhaps just refunding and moving on is best... but for this one, I wanted to over-deliver and then move on. It's my way of pounding in my attitude of how I want to be.

      Thanks

      Eric
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      • Profile picture of the author All Night Cafe
        I enjoyed your post. I agree with what you ststed.

        Always remember their are more customers who like
        you than the jerks. But they will always be some.

        I too look for the customer who takes my products and
        does what it says.

        I remember talking to Marlon Sanders at an event in 2005,
        and I was crying on his shoulder about bad customers.

        He asked, are you making money? I laughed and said yes.
        He looked me straight in the eyes, and said then does
        be a pussy, it happens.

        I bought him another beer. I new bad customers were
        part of the business.
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        • Profile picture of the author Marian
          Something similar happened to me as well, it was perhaps 2 times... customers were angry from some other stuff - not mine - and I was the one who's to blame.. I tell you at the first time I wanted to swear and send them to... but then after I calmed down a little bit - I sent quite a polite email explaining and asking what's wrong..

          then...

          it turned out to be completely different person! I mean the customer explained what bugged him/her and that it was some other marketer that "stole" his/her money or was not helpful at all, etc... etc...

          and in the end...

          actually THANKING ME and how glad he/she is that I'm willing to help and support him/her!

          Sometimes it's just bad mood or frustration that drives us - and our customer - not every of such emails are from real "jerks"

          Marian
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Ratliff
    In the physical world, you can see face to face (or hear over the phone) if a customer is just "pissed", knowing full well that whatever comes out of their mouth is most likely a rant, vent, etc...

    In the online world, you just can't tell in text form.

    The obvious and easy answer here would be to "refund her and move on". But most people aren't psychopathic, and won't carry out their threats in the first place. I think the medium (the Internet) allows these particular individuals to vent in a way where they feel more "empowered."

    Is this ranting the right way to handle a problem with a vendor at first? Probably not, they could just "go through the process" like your better customers, but for some reason they choose not to.

    Eric brings up good points here in this article.

    If someone threatens you, is it really a threat to begin with? Or, for some reason or set of reasons, does that individual not know fully "how to handle the Internet"...and perhaps they feel helpless UNLESS they issue threats?

    Did they have a bad day, week, month? Did they (heaven forbid) make a mistake in interacting with you in such a negative manner?

    None of these "reasons" makes it right for a customer to treat you that way, for sure...but why not try to explore the "behind the scenes" a little bit and try to be helpful like Eric mentioned?

    Sometimes it will work, sometimes it won't (to be helpful)...but when it works, you could make an "evangelist" for your business. When it doesn't work, the situation doesn't change, I suppose it's possible they could generate a little negative press, but I'm willing to bet most people won't do that at a level where your business will get harmed if you're treating people right.

    Just my opinion. Great thought-provoking article Eric.
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  • Profile picture of the author itzpaul
    I truly believe in this because a long-term business has to truly offer an amazing product that it's consumers can use. If you have a product that doesn't really help the consumer then your business won't last long.
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