Mobile Marketing and pay per call?

[robbdogg30]

Has anyone made any money with mobile marketing and pay per call?

I have a pay per call account with Commission Junction and was thinking about using Admob to promote the number with their click to call feature.

Does anyone have any info on this before I spend some money? Thanks for all replies

[tpw]

I would think this works better with paid classifieds in newspapers and penny savers... But that is just me...

[AOIII]

From what I have researched and heard there is a lot of fraud in pay-per-call, except for googles pay-per-call advertisement, which appear to be pretty good.

[Super Affiliate]

I actually tried mobile marketing with admob and it's harder than people made out to be. I got 5 impressions in a week and no sales. If people actually make money doing this, there's got to be something they're not telling us in their products.

[AOIII]

Originally Posted by Super Affiliate

I got 5 impressions in a week and no sales.

Just a question; Was that 5 impressions or 5 click throughs (CTR)?

[angelfresh89]

mobile marketing is killer if you start to build lists in bigger niches such as make money online wright loss and a few others. admob works pretty good for me.with 50 dollar daily budget it gets me near 1667 clicks at 4 cents a pop/ building list is a great approach for a long term business model.hop this can help

[jan roos]

Originally Posted by angelfresh89

mobile marketing is killer if you start to build lists in bigger niches such as make money online wright loss and a few others. admob works pretty good for me.with 50 dollar daily budget it gets me near 1667 clicks at 4 cents a pop/ building list is a great approach for a long term business model.hop this can help

How do you do your squeeze pages to be mobile friendly? Are you using the software in the monopoly course? I want to build a squeeze page with my getresponse account hooked up to it but the software on mobilemonoply only uses aweber.

To answer the OP's question I did a CJ pay per call with Admob and other networks. Blew 100 bucks with no sales. Probably not enough to test properly. I dont kow.

Cheers

[robbdogg30]

I have a pay per call account with Commission Junction and I'm considering using admob. My campaign will be Quicken Loans and I will get paid $12 per/call that last a min. or greater. I'm thinking if I get 1600 calls I should at least get a 10% conversion! What do you think?

[iSoftware]

**think** relationship marketing for web 3.0...
Same as before....build a list of targeted prospects then follow up...in this case it's an sms list though (kicking myself for letting out such good info in a non-wso, LOL)

[WilliamLark]

I see it is very popular with clickbank affiliates and buy watching Adams video and seeing his live clickbank results it is tempting

[Lyn Woodring]

I don't understand the mobile marketing at all. Do people sign up so you can blast ads on their phone all day. I can't get through all my emails in a day and can't see why I would want this. What is the incentive to be bombarded with more messages?
Thanks
-Lyn

[iSoftware]

Originally Posted by Lyn Woodring

I don't understand the mobile marketing at all. Do people sign up so you can blast ads on their phone all day. I can't get through all my emails in a day and can't see why I would want this. What is the incentive to be bombarded with more messages?
Thanks
-Lyn

Not to be flippant Lyn but you have used the term "I" 3 times in that statement. Have you heard the term "You are not a representative sample..."

In permission based marketing it's not about how you or I or most people on this board who are practitioners feel about something. An example is a "throw away email address". The average person isn't signing up for free reports all day (whether to read them or to study them) so they have no need for a "throwaway" email address.

In permission based direct marketing - whether it's email, text, direct offline mail, etc. it's about sending things to people who have asked for it and want it!

What's the difference between a catalogue that gets labeled as junk mail and one that doesn't - the person!

For one it's relevant and appreciated, for the other one it's not...

[gnemechek]

Hi RobbDogg30,

We have seen a lot of publishers interested in getting started with mobile. To help answer some questions about how pay-per-call works with mobile ad networks, we have posted the following topic on our support forum. Some good information in there about what to look for.

Since I am new to the forum, I can't post a hyperlink here. You should be able to copy and paste this into a browser:

support.ringrevenue.com/pub/mobile_networks/pay-per-call-with-admob-adfonic-inmobi-mojiva

If you have trouble send me a direct message with your email address and I will email you the link.

Beyond mobile, there are certainly a lot of opportunities for promoting paypercall campaigns through traditional online methods and also offline channels such as print, radio and tv. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me directly.

- Gretchen

[steelbone]

I Bought mobile monopoly a few weeks ago. so far havent made much money.

I have an add waiting for approval with admob right now for a pay per call campaign

also did an add for one of my friends business's. Adam certainly make's it sound like u cant losse money use his advice. but i'm still in the hole a bit

[AOIII]

Originally Posted by Lyn Woodring

I don't understand the mobile marketing at all. Do people sign up so you can blast ads on their phone all day. I can't get through all my emails in a day and can't see why I would want this. What is the incentive to be bombarded with more messages?
Thanks
-Lyn

If you review and work the mobile ad networks right now Lyn, you will find that mobile marketing, as it pertains to the latest craze, is bringing the internet to the mobile world. In other words you are viewing/pushing ads on cellphone that are equip with internet browsers and/or smart phones that you can have your own apps on. So if you want to get into mobile advertising make sure your ads a mobile compatible and its best you deal with a mobile ad network, such as adMOB.

Yes SMS text marketing is available however it is very limited at the moment. SMS is very restricted and "hell has no fury like a carriers scorn". With SMS advertising you literally have to get the subscriber signed up to your SMS texting service and the service has to meet the requirements of each carrier to allow them to send SMS messages. Its not cheap either.

[JNFerree]

Making money in the mobile marketing space doesn't seem to be as easy as advertised.

Granted, the AdMob network is huge and getting more huge by the minute, but I doubt most Affiliate marketing guys can compete with the BIG Brands and making money with PPC and AdWords and the Hydra CPA offers ain't what it used to be.

I think this is why a lot of us smaller aff marketing guys are looking into other sms mobile platforms like iZigg, Trumpia and the like.

[davidjames42973]

I know mobile ads is the wave of the future, but I'm not buying it. I think it still has a few nuts and bolts that need to be worked out.

There's a marketing "guru" that use to use Pay Per Call to get people to his webinars and stuff. About a year ago he quit doing the Pay Per Calls. I just received an email from the same "guru" who is suddenly releasing a course on how you can make a ton of money using Pay Per Call. If it's generating him so much money, why did he quit doing it a year ago?

I'm not saying that you can't make good money from it, but I suggest to avoid the latest trends and stick with whatever has been working for you...

[Matthew Iannotti]

Originally Posted by davidjames42973

I know mobile ads is the wave of the future, but I'm not buying it. I think it still has a few nuts and bolts that need to be worked out.

There's a marketing "guru" that use to use Pay Per Call to get people to his webinars and stuff. About a year ago he quit doing the Pay Per Calls. I just received an email from the same "guru" who is suddenly releasing a course on how you can make a ton of money using Pay Per Call. If it's generating him so much money, why did he quit doing it a year ago?

I'm not saying that you can't make good money from it, but I suggest to avoid the latest trends and stick with whatever has been working for you...

Maybe he wants to help other people out now. You know, when some reach a level of success, it's very fulfilling to help others do the same.

[Austin12]

I bought this mobile monopoly at launch. & have tested out proven campaigns cPa networks and pay per call..Yes pay per click much cheaper than Google Adwords but the cost builds up, and at end off all that...zero commissions. Only good thing i used a squeeze page with youtube ad for 1 campaign and did get 50 odd people sign up to auto responder in a week.hey not amazing but not bad from a zero traffic start no website start. So it could be good to build up an auto responder list, but for affiliate commissions its been a dud & cost nearly 300 bucks using admob and adfonic clicks. I guess very few people would ever sign up or buy porducts on their phone, but fill in email yes. The beast mobi software also charges you over $50 bucks a month so if you are hosting your auto responder on there you have to keep paying that every month. To be honest after the 1st trial month or so i had enough and got my refunds in. But compared to all the other affiliate tactics of building up a list out there using a decent mobile optimised squeeze page has been 1 of the quicker & better tactics. I'm sticking with Ebay & amazon for now, its been the only ever major earner for me online & I dont need to learn some strange white hat black hat amazing loophole tactics that earns these "gurus" thousands a month, while for most of us just burns a whole in our pockets with no or little commissions. The super affiliate lifestyle looks amazing but at end of the day they are mostly making money by selling their own product. Once they have mailing list of thousands then they also make comissions of that and those people who keep on buying. If it means i have to deal with packaging my goods, sending them out and dealing with my suplliers and customers, at least i know with physical products i will make money!! nota piffling 50 here or 100 there if lucky on clickbank or CPA network..Maybe i will lauch a neat Ebook and videos onto clickbank 1 day, as in affiliate marketing I think thats the only way to make the decent income.

[RexConnects]

I've been playing around with mobile and ppcall since June 2009 and have made enough progress to start the RexConnects.com pay per call network. It resides on the ring revenue platform - so we have great tracking and features to support your marketing efforts (regardless of media distribution channel) chosen.

We've recently added the following offer types: debt, mortgage, education, language software, credit repair and payday loan.

Although mobile marketing works to some degree, it is not the BEST yet, for driving pay per call performance. If you do try it, be sure to send traffic to a mobile optimized page with campaign information on it and your assigned phone number. Otherwise pocket callers run rampant (and you don't get paid for them).

If you are an experienced affiliate marketers through traditional internet marketing channels you should be able to make money fairly easily with pay per call offers. It's a great way to take advantage of what you already know, and try out new ones like print, radio, video, as well as mobile marketing.

Feel free to contact me for more information or tips on best practices. I'm open to sharing.

And, if you want more information about our offers - please feel free to visit rexconnects.com.

[Ginko Bob]

The video course on mobile advertising and marketing is based on real campaigns and testing and reveals a system for affiliate mobile marketing. The course is covered in 11 step-by-step modules, this course will show you how to build mobile advertising campaigns and run them successfully.
Mobile Monopoly uses Beast Mobi is software that generates mobile campaigns automatically. It includes a mobile compatible squeeze page generator, banners and more. The purpose of this software is to streamline the mobile advertising campaign creation to the point where all you have to do is copy and paste auto generated campaigns to the advertising platform. BeastMobi is not part of Mobile Monopoly course but it comes as an upsell, it does have a recurring cost of $67/month is worth mentioning.
It is not a push button and make money immediately thing if that is what you thought, such things do not exist and the ones that claim to do that are nothing but scams.

[Treby]

Have found Mobile marketing great for building my opt-in list,as far as making money with cpa-zero-spent $250 trying many different ads-from ring tones to games.health,and more using admob- Also if you are trying to build a big optin list I take out India as find they just like the free offers then unsubscribe-thats ok but one wants to keep people on your list- as you change your country areas the cost per click goes up-to me not the most rewarding venture

[hectoth]

Originally Posted by robbdogg30

I have a pay per call account with Commission Junction and I'm considering using admob. My campaign will be Quicken Loans and I will get paid $12 per/call that last a min. or greater. I'm thinking if I get 1600 calls I should at least get a 10% conversion! What do you think?

I don't think using like AdMob, MobGold, InMobi is a great idea to promote your Pay per Call account, at first you won't know the conversion rate, unless you tried it yourself, but if i may speculate, the conversion rate probably even lesser than the ads that run on Admob, MobGold etc.

True, that Pay per call will definitely pay you a lot more than conventional pay per click, but I'm guessing that if you can get a profit it will be just small.

[setaPradana]

yea, i also dont think that pay per call will gives u much profit, because, not many people like to call unknown numbers right?

[shuvo]

I have heard that many people working with it.But did not hear any success news from them.I recommend you to not spend any money on it and look for another competitive product to promote.

[setaPradana]

like i said before, i dont think pay per call is that much popular yet...
even using ad networks such as mobgold or admob... maybe you might wanna try different strategy, like PPC or else...

[hectoth]

Originally Posted by setaPradana

like i said before, i dont think pay per call is that much popular yet...
even using ad networks such as mobgold or admob... maybe you might wanna try different strategy, like PPC or else...

It might be popular, but what are the chances they are making phone calls after click or just hangup just right before it is connected.

[aldric_garvel]

pretty interesting topic here,
about pay per call, yea i dont think many people are so willing to just click the ad and dial an unknown number...
and maybe like hectoth said, we cannot guarantee that they'll ACTUALLY taking the phone call, they can just simply hang up the call when the call is just connected....

[caseydon]

Originally Posted by hectoth

I don't think using like AdMob, MobGold, InMobi is a great idea to promote your Pay per Call account, at first you won't know the conversion rate, unless you tried it yourself, but if i may speculate, the conversion rate probably even lesser than the ads that run on Admob, MobGold etc.

True, that Pay per call will definitely pay you a lot more than conventional pay per click, but I'm guessing that if you can get a profit it will be just small.

Yep I agree, with this statement, I'd better not to try do something like this either.

[richardnbirch]

I'm not using pay per call just yet- I'm using the best 10 out of the 30-35 ad platforms out there currently for list building

They are not all created equal and i would not just stick to Admob for sure.

Currently using it to build big opt in lists in general niches - had 500 in one day yesterday.

It will only get bigger- the people who have iphone/droids now are the 'early adopters'- eg people who got broadband first and who like new technology.

THis will be massive once the next phase buys them..the ordinary Joe BLoggs and general public. Form fills and sign ups will be much greater as will actual purchasing from smartphones (paypal now has mobile app too)

RIch

[fernandoescobar]

Most definitely!

I have decided to transfer all my efforts to mobile marketing after doing some tests for several weeks. However, I may be a bit biased because I have an iPhone and love using it for almost anything. I'm so bullinsh on mobile that I have even began to develop a few mobile apps that will show those Admob ads.

Beware, though, as with any CPC network, do you do diligence or you could loose a shirt or two.

Good luck and grab onto the mobile market as soon as possible.

[chart3]

Originally Posted by gnemechek

Hi RobbDogg30,

We have seen a lot of publishers interested in getting started with mobile. To help answer some questions about how pay-per-call works with mobile ad networks, we have posted the following topic on our support forum. Some good information in there about what to look for.

Since I am new to the forum, I can't post a hyperlink here. You should be able to copy and paste this into a browser:

support.ringrevenue.com/pub/mobile_networks/pay-per-call-with-admob-adfonic-inmobi-mojiva

If you have trouble send me a direct message with your email address and I will email you the link.

Beyond mobile, there are certainly a lot of opportunities for promoting paypercall campaigns through traditional online methods and also offline channels such as print, radio and tv. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me directly.

- Gretchen

Great article link on the true economics of mobile marketing for paypercall which is something that most people aren't talking about.

[IMShoppingMall]

Originally Posted by jan roos

To answer the OP's question I did a CJ pay per call with Admob and other networks. Blew 100 bucks with no sales. Probably not enough to test properly. I dont kow.

Cheers

It's not hard to do. I've stayed away from CTC campaigns due to the overwhelming fraud (which I can't figure out yet... just going on what others have said) as well as the outright "don't do it" I'm hearing from people at several mobile CPA networks. So I'm not surprised your cash flew out the window. Have to be careful in mobile.

However, with that being said, I'm keeping an eye on this because sooner or later someone is going to figure out how to make it work properly and, hopefully, they will share.

[IMShoppingMall]

Originally Posted by moneykws

"You are not a representative sample..."

...

What's the difference between a catalogue that gets labeled as junk mail and one that doesn't - the person!

Just when you think you've heard them all! I've been in marketing my entire adult life (too many years... hah) and I've never heard these before.

Thank you for those quotes...
Another Gem from the Warrior Forum.

[IMShoppingMall]

Originally Posted by EfitnessNYC

Maybe he wants to help other people out now. You know, when some reach a level of success, it's very fulfilling to help others do the same.

Or... Maybe he falls into the old addage: "Those who can't do, teach."

[thegabrieljibril]

i did it, the thing is that the call conversion can be pretty poor, you can get like 1000 calls and only 1 or 2 would be valid or paid to you, but i mean if you can get a good offer, it should work but i did quit from doing that...Good Luck to u

[co-creator]

hey warriors,

please help!

I'd like to know...

where can someone learn all about mobile marketing for free?

thanks!

[Chris Sorrell]

You can build up massive lists in competitive niches with mobile marketing - but for selling products it's really bad - I have used offermobi for pay per call and had some initial success but then it kinda dwindled.

[thumperhartley]

I have been investigating mobile and pay per call over the last few months and have tried various niches from financial to health etc .. I have used the Pay per call on CJ, Offermobi and Shareasale and have had hundreds of clicks but hardly any calls that have lasted the required time to get paid, one or two perhaps. I have used this in conjuction with landing pages as well as calling number direct. I think it will work well in the future but after spending hundreds of dollars experimenting I have put it on the back burner for now and reverted back to more traditional proven methods. Still very much into mobile but more on a local level right now.

[friendclk]

I am generating about 75 calls per day with a 33% paid conversion rate. I fully believe Pay Per Call is the future of advertising for me. If you really think about it, businesses have been advertising their phone numbers for decades on verticals like TV and Radio. Now you can get in on advertising phone numbers.

[TrumpiaTim]

Originally Posted by JNFerree

Making money in the mobile marketing space doesn't seem to be as easy as advertised.

Granted, the AdMob network is huge and getting more huge by the minute, but I doubt most Affiliate marketing guys can compete with the BIG Brands and making money with PPC and AdWords and the Hydra CPA offers ain't what it used to be.

I think this is why a lot of us smaller aff marketing guys are looking into other sms mobile platforms like iZigg, Trumpia and the like.

That's very true, and it's also a question of affiliate vs rebranding and becoming a reseller yourself, which Trumpia does offer with our White Label Reseller program.

[megamobilemarketing]

Originally Posted by friendclk

I am generating about 75 calls per day with a 33% paid conversion rate. I fully believe Pay Per Call is the future of advertising for me. If you really think about it, businesses have been advertising their phone numbers for decades on verticals like TV and Radio. Now you can get in on advertising phone numbers.

are you using admob? If no, then what source are you getting these results from? My experience with admob has been awful.

[paologiannone]

Mobile marketing will become huge and not just in the pay per call field. More and more people own a smart phone with unlimited internet, and it is going to get better and better.

I am building some of my websites for mobile, and although there is a lot of testing to be done before i will get it right, I am sure it will pay off in the long run.

[rickstopfive]

Originally Posted by AOIII

If you review and work the mobile ad networks right now Lyn, you will find that mobile marketing, as it pertains to the latest craze, is bringing the internet to the mobile world. In other words you are viewing/pushing ads on cellphone that are equip with internet browsers and/or smart phones that you can have your own apps on. So if you want to get into mobile advertising make sure your ads a mobile compatible and its best you deal with a mobile ad network, such as adMOB.

Yes SMS text marketing is available however it is very limited at the moment. SMS is very restricted and "hell has no fury like a carriers scorn". With SMS advertising you literally have to get the subscriber signed up to your SMS texting service and the service has to meet the requirements of each carrier to allow them to send SMS messages. Its not cheap either.

I noticed you were posting on a wso thread that got overheated about the wso being sold, I can not post ther so I hoped to find you here. You mentioned a white label solution for sms service that I would love to hear about. Could you please PM me as I dont have enought posts yet.
Sorry for taking thread a little off course.
Rick