Will the next WSO (or other IM guide/course) be the key to earning online??

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Hi Guys, so I have a question.

I hear a lot of people say there are a lot of great guides out there, but of course without action, one will never succeed no matter how much great info they're given.

My question is, so can a person truly use one WSO or IM product to actually start seeing some results (income). A friend thinks that if someone is really making thousands or millions online that they'd always hold back the true key to earning online or at least earning massivley like they do.

How do you warriors feel? Can one product really deliver or will consumer of these products forever remain hopeless and waiting for the arrival of the next big IM guide/product??
#earning #guide or course #internet #key #marketing #online #wso
  • Profile picture of the author Gene Pimentel
    Originally Posted by shabit87 View Post

    A friend thinks that if someone is really making thousands or millions online that they'd always hold back the true key to earning online or at least earning massivley like they do.
    Your friend is speaking in generalities which is not going to help in finding a definitive answer to your question. You can't assume the content of every offer is "holding back". I can't speak for others, but in my WSOs I teach everything you need to know to begin making money. The rest is up to your own efforts and motivation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Super Affiliate
    That is a very legitimate question. From my own experience, many marketers here are not really making thousands of dollars like they said in their WSO. How do I know this? Cuz I've followed their systems and what they taught step by step without making a red cent. I've wasted so much money doing something that doesn't work and is outdated. So I know there are a lot of them who are just in to take your money. But there are also many markers out there who are sincere and really trying to help. The key is find them and go through their system and follow through UNTIL you succeed.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
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      • Profile picture of the author Estelle4131
        Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post

        Sounds like you need new friends....because they always seem to be putting down your IM activities...

        Either that or you are your friend lol.

        WSOs....a lot of BS to make money, and some gems hidden in there.

        First WSO I bought a year and a half ago by Chris Rempel has been one of the most valuable products for me to date.

        I use the techniques in my business every day, which I hope to take to 7 figures this year...assuming my big project pans out like it should.
        Dan, what is the name of the product byChris Rempel? Is it still available? I agree with Shabit. I am asking myself the same question. I have spent hundreds of dollars on many a training product but have yet to see any results. I am very tempted to unsubscribe to all the lists I belong to. When i see the giant bucks in the email, I immediately delete it and pass it off as BS.

        I think Internet Marketing is like any other business. It requires work. And when I see an email about the lazy marketer, I just delete it because I do not believe that you are going to earn big bucks with no work.

        Peace!


        Thanks,
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        • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
          Originally Posted by Estelle4131 View Post

          Dan, what is the name of the product byChris Rempel? Is it still available? I agree with Shabit. I am asking myself the same question. I have spent hundreds of dollars on many a training product but have yet to see any results. I am very tempted to unsubscribe to all the lists I belong to. When i see the giant bucks in the email, I immediately delete it and pass it off as BS.

          I think Internet Marketing is like any other business. It requires work. And when I see an email about the lazy marketer, I just delete it because I do not believe that you are going to earn big bucks with no work.

          Peace!


          Thanks,
          Yeah, he has two.

          Here is one:

          Confessions of a Lazy Super-Affiliate

          The other is the conduit method. Both worth buying even today because of the small little tips in there that can have a big impact on things.
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      • Profile picture of the author shabit87
        Originally Posted by Daniel Brock View Post

        Sounds like you need new friends....because they always seem to be putting down your IM activities...
        My friend was just curious and making a note, not putting me down at all :-)
        I really appreciate the feedback everyone. I especially like the thought of some holding back particular sources (traffic for example) in their products. "Tell them what and why, but leave a bit of mystery to the how." Some marketers/product creators may feel like this, but I do feel like mentioned before a good bit of them just want to help and are honest in their efforts to share what has worked for them!
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    When you hold back the goods because you feel that someone will end up doing better than you because they know your secrets, you're acting from fear. That's no way to conduct business.

    As for WSOs and reports you'll find for sale on this forum, I've seen some really great stuff offered here with strategies that have been proven to work. I think the people creating and selling such stuff are more than happy to share the ideas and the wealth. There's plenty to go around! Good luck...
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  • Profile picture of the author ukcarl
    I tend to find often so called gurus will dry a certain source of traffic out and the only other way to make money out of it is create a product about how they made lots of money even though the traffic is now saturated, I see this a lot.

    Also I often see recycled stuff again and again, out of all the products I ever bought there was only about 2 I really liked both for free traffic generation and then anything I learned about paid traffic I just researched myself that's mostly what I do now paid traffic for me its easier to test because you can get lots of volume fast to test offers.

    I do a bit of reading but really enjoy learning from testing + trial and error
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  • Profile picture of the author JustinP
    I thought you asked a very good question because there are probably hundreds of Warriors wondering the same thing.

    Like you said, there are some good products and not so good products available on the WSO forum (and other places as well).

    The problem I see with a lot of people is that they do not treat their IM efforts like a real business. What I mean is that they don't spend the time and capital required to generate healthy business revenue. Regardless of the system you are following, if you do not use basic business practices and understand the fundamentals of running a business, your IM efforts are doomed to fail.

    My biggest recommendation to people who are serious about learning and building a full time business is to get involved with more experienced people. Find mentors, get involved in projects and learn how a real business person thinks and acts.
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    • Profile picture of the author shabit87
      Originally Posted by JustinP View Post

      Like you said, there are some good products and not so good products available on the WSO forum (and other places as well).

      The problem I see with a lot of people is that they do not treat their IM efforts like a real business.
      I strongly agree. Some don't realize that the efforts they put in the IM business don't simply stop with that one guide. They must continue to invest in their business and go BEYOND the recommendation and guidelines of that IM product they've just purchased to help them get started. Expectations are unrealistic and some fail because of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
    There is no "True Key" or secret to success online. Anything you can learn is something new to you, but it is not new to someone else. There is no so called secret that is going to change everything.

    The one piece of advice that most new marketers and even older marketers miss is the taking action and sticking with a specific method until it works. Too many people want to jump from one thing to another and they never make any money because of this.

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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi shabit87,

      I've got a fair bit of experience of trying to find (and then testing) ways to make money via other peoples' guides/products and I'd have to say that although I think people should get a good all-round understanding and working knowledge of the primary methods/systems/tools (which can be done for free) in the first instance, if I had to pick one or two products or things for them to do, I would suggest putting the products on one side and focus solely on -

      a) learning how to use search operators plus the search engine results combined with other free (usually web-based) simple analytical tools/methods in order to reverse-engineer what is working, how it's done etc. This doesn't have to be complicated - you can learn a hell of a lot just by analysing -

      • onsite & offsite SEO
      • copywriting
      • source code (html, mainly)
      • the funnel (sign up to lists, analyse the offers etc)
      I focus mainly on the first two, I avoid signing up to lists/wasting time in peoples' funnels as much as possible and I learn the most from using backlinkwatch.com to examine offsite SEO. You can go as deep as you want with this method - for example, it's not just about finding backlinks, it's also about finding networks, strategies, alliances, connected niches and business models.

      For example - how helpful is it establish that a site is simply a 'feeder site' for SEO, rather than a 'money site'? If you're not aware of the difference, it's harder to reverse-engineer and come to useful conclusions.

      You want to be asking how the site got the backlink - organically or not? Did they buy it, exchange it, borrow it, steal it, force it or was it given? If so, why was it given?

      How do you learn to reverse engineer?

      a) by first developing the desire to do it
      b) then by doing it
      c) also by keeping your eyes wide open while doing it - it's a learning process in more than one way - you learn about the sites, but you also learn how to reverse engineer more efficiently while doing it

      You can even learn a ton more just by also examining public feedback to marketer's work via forums and the comments on blog pages - particularly if you've reverse-engineered their business as much as possible beforehand - then when you view the feedback it's possible to gain similar insights to the marketer who is actually running the site and conducting their own tests.

      You just have to apply initiative, curiosity, intuition and a few other traits and by doing so you nurture and develop those traits - (that's a 'golden nugget' if you're looking for them - by increasing your independent abilities in just the right areas, you increase your worth exponentially.)

      Quite often, reading a bunch of ebooks actually dumbs you down and keeps you addicted to the 'teat' - it destroys your initiative and confidence in your own ability by putting you back into 'schoolkid' mode where you are (allegedly) spoon-fed knowledge and continually told what to do. It's preferable to spend your time on things that reverse the effects of the conditioning most of us suffered during our childhood education.

      The second activity I would recommend would be -

      b) applying, testing and analysing what has been observed/learnt - mainly in order to verify any findings

      If people starting out just focussed solely on those things they would be streets ahead of those who are looking to buy the golden ticket, a lot less out of pocket and massively less misinformed and misled.

      What I've explained above is worth multiples of the cost of the average WSO and it only took a couple of paragraphs and it's FREE!
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    • Profile picture of the author anions
      Stay away from the "get rich quick" types of WSOs.

      Instead, focus on ones that teach

      But you don't need to spend money on WSOs - instead use the money to build your busiuness with what you've learnt free from the warrior forum.

      E.g search this forum for seo and article marketing. Make a list of the best tips and posts on here.

      Take action and apply them - you're bound to succeed! No WSO needed.

      Most WSOs serve the "magic pill" mindset.
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      • Profile picture of the author ExRat
        Hi anions,

        Stay away from the "get rich quick" types of WSOs.

        Instead, focus on ones that teach

        But you don't need to spend money on WSOs - instead use the money to build your busiuness with what you've learnt free from the warrior forum.

        E.g search this forum for seo and article marketing. Make a list of the best tips and posts on here.

        Take action and apply them - you're bound to succeed! No WSO needed.

        Most WSOs serve the "magic pill" mindset.
        I agree with your main point (IE - you don't need to spend money, you can learn in the forum).

        But I would also make the point that just because information is found for free in the forum rather than being sold in a WSO, it doesn't guarantee that the information provided is not misleading and that it's not being put there (and in that manner) purely to try and sell something.

        Even if the person posting the information doesn't have ulterior motives/bad intentions, they might have been misinformed themselves and due to them not realising this, they might be passing on bad information dressed up as good.

        With respect, I don't necessarily agree with the bolded part below -

        search this forum for seo and article marketing. Make a list of the best tips and posts on here.

        Take action and apply them - you're bound to succeed! No WSO needed.
        In general, more people will probably fail than succeed, whatever they do - so I don't think anyone is bound to succeed with that plan. From my experience, they're most likely to end up with a bunch of contradictory and conflicting knowledge - that's the nature of business in an area as populous, rapidly changing and as complicated as this one.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tymarkinc
    Originally Posted by shabit87 View Post

    Hi Guys, so I have a question.

    I hear a lot of people say there are a lot of great guides out there, but of course without action, one will never succeed no matter how much great info they're given.

    My question is, so can a person truly use one WSO or IM product to actually start seeing some results (income). A friend thinks that if someone is really making thousands or millions online that they'd always hold back the true key to earning online or at least earning massivley like they do.

    How do you warriors feel? Can one product really deliver or will consumer of these products forever remain hopeless and waiting for the arrival of the next big IM guide/product??
    I'm not sure the "hold back" theory is true. However, just becasue someone tells you what they are doing it doesn't mean you can duplicate without skill.

    Floyd Mayweather could tell you to slip punches and knock people out, it doesn't mean becasue he told you how he does it you will go beat up somebody.

    Whenever you buy something related to making money you can bet there was a lot of testing and tweaking. You will likely have to do the same thing.

    The problem is we lose focus with the next shiny thing.

    For instance, if you just built a huge responsive list and focused on that for 1 year and mastered that one skill with nothing else, no shiny automatic millionaire software. You'll be making good money.

    I guess what I'm saying is knowledge is not enough, we have to also work on our skills to be successfull, and skills come from implementation and repetition of what we learn.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Iannotti
    IMHO the money making WSO's to buy would be the one's that teach/train you in REAL marketing. Unless you have a specific need, PLR, articles, software, templates, etc, I would stick to the WSO's that can train or teach you in a particular field. Could be SEO, site/domain flipping etc..

    Gene Pimentel has a very good WSO out now, I wish I had the time to try it out

    Happy Warrior has a solid one out too...

    These are legitimate businesses you can profit from.....
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