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14 years ago

what do you care if the link remained in tact?
he probably just wanted SEO advantages or something

not sure, I don't really spy on what people do with the articles...

but if you post it in article directories, that's why it's for, for people to use it on their site... - as long as the links, names stay in tact
that's what article directories are for..

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PatriciaJ 14 years ago

Most article directories state in there TOS that articles should not be altered and that includes being spinned. It's happened to me a few times and I would rather forgoe the link than have my articles altered like that.

What I can't understand is why anybody would want unreadable articles on their site, unless it's to get people to click away quickly on the ads.
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- Dan C. Rinnert 14 years ago
  
  I agree with PatriciaJ. The link isn't worth having people think you're a moron that cannot write coherently.
  
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- Guido DeSpano 14 years ago
  
  Hi,
  
  Even if people don't want to talk about it it is normal for some marketers to grab an article and rewrite it, some of them could leave the links back but to be honest I doubt it, if it pass copyscape standards it will be considered a new article acceptable by the search engines so you will get a backlinks...
  
  To answer Patricia'a question, content is content and that content could be even hidden using CSS to satisfy the SE ... some people don't care they will create adsense sites with unreadable content on purpose in order to left people with one option to click on their adsense or banners....
  
  I could go on and go on but so far that's it for now....
  
  ...And yes! some people can use a program like 'The Best Spinner' and get
  amazing new articles, it is up to you...
  
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Alexa Smith

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by antipot

what do you care if the link remained in tact?

I would care very much indeed.

That's my reputation as an authority on whatever-subject-it-is attached to an "unreadable" article. That's the single most valuable and irreplacable asset of my business.

You honestly wouldn't care about that?!

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JohnMcCabe

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

I would care very much indeed.

That's my reputation as an authority on whatever-subject-it-is attached to an "unreadable" article. That's the single most valuable and irreplacable asset of my business.

You honestly wouldn't care about that?!

My thoughts exactly.

If you're going to crawl out from under your rock to mangle my content, please take my name off of it.

Another reason my very best stuff never sees an article directory.

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Daniel Rickfold

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

I would care very much indeed.

That's my reputation as an authority on whatever-subject-it-is attached to an "unreadable" article. That's the single most valuable and irreplacable asset of my business.

You honestly wouldn't care about that?!

I would care if that site gets boatloads of traffic
but usually those sites know to follow instructions

it's not like everyone reads the author's name and writes it down with a note saying unreadable or something...

these practices - looking how others use your articles and looking at websites with each article and see how it's placed, etc. are a total waste of time and divert people from the real GOAL... if you have the capital then just hire someone to do it for you... if you don't then that's why you don't... because you're wasting time....

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rhinocl

14 years ago

I don't know if they will intercede but I bet an email from ezine articles to the spinner saying he violated their TOS might carry more weight than if you complained directly. I'm bet there is some place on their site to lodge a complaint.

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PatriciaJ

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Guido DeSpano

Hi,

Even if people don't want to talk about it it is normal for some marketers to grab an article and rewrite it, some of them could leave the links back but to be honest I doubt it, if it pass copyscape standards it will be considered a new article acceptable by the search engines so you will get a backlinks...

To answer Patricia'a question, content is content and that content could be even hidden using CSS to satisfy the SE ... some people don't care they will create adsense sites with unreadable content on purpose in order to left people with one option to click on their adsense or banners....

I could go on and go on but so far that's it for now....

...And yes! some people can use a program like 'The Best Spinner' and get
amazing new articles, it is up to you...

Regards,

Guido DeSpano

Amazing new articles like the 2 spinned versions just submitted to my travel article directory. One of them started like this:

'A great way to enjoy vacation is to relax at places of proper eminence with friends.. Another important element would be to Always be certain you plumbing service about where to search for nude vacations before booking as every one is unique and it has their own personality..'

Is he trying to tell us that you need to make sure your plumbing is sorted before you take a trip I wonder.

Originally Posted by rhinocl

I don't know if they will intercede but I bet an email from ezine articles to the spinner saying he violated their TOS might carry more weight than if you complained directly. I'm bet there is some place on their site to lodge a complaint.

The op didn't say which directory, but I doubt that EZA have the time or inclination to chase up everybody who violates their TOS

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Alfred Shelver

14 years ago

Patricia you don't see the Genius? Its a vacation post, penis enlargement and prostate cure there all in one line. GENIUS!!

You underestimate this writers 'Eminence'

Originally Posted by PatriciaJ

Another important element would be to Always be certain you plumbing service about where to search for nude vacations

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DropWizard.com

14 years ago

I've seen a lot of garbage spun articles like that. Completely unreadable, either machine generated or spun by a non english speaking scraper.

Let's face it a lot of people just want the $$$ and not the work.

But to answer the original question I would complain to the article site I'm sure they have records of who accesses what.

But I would also send a copyright violation notice to the hosting company of the offending blog. They'll pull the site if it's not taken off.

I would not want links back to my site that were attached to a crap article.

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PatriciaJ

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Cathy Shelver

Patricia you don't see the Genius? Its a vacation post, penis enlargement and prostate cure there all in one line. GENIUS!!

You underestimate this writers 'Eminence'

Submitted to the Brazil category - I could say something about waxing lyrical

Originally Posted by DropWizard.com

I've seen a lot of garbage spun articles like that. Completely unreadable, either machine generated or spun by a non english speaking scraper.

Let's face it a lot of people just want the $$$ and not the work.

But to answer the original question I would complain to the article site I'm sure they have records of who accesses what.

But I would also send a copyright violation notice to the hosting company of the offending blog. They'll pull the site if it's not taken off.

I would not want links back to my site that were attached to a crap article.

Unless a directory is running a very sophisticated script I'm sure that they don't have records of who accesses what apart from the last 300 visitor stats in your cpanel which alters entirely very quickly if you have a busy site. And supposing an article gets 100s of views how do you figure out who it was that did the dirty deed? Also the op says that he or she submitted to a few directories so unless an identifying code was added the op won't know exactly which directory.

If you don't get any joy from the site owner, apart from complaining to the hosting company if the site is an adsense site and it isn't the only mangled article on there I would drop a word in Googles ear.

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DropWizard.com 14 years ago

Originally Posted by PatriciaJ

Unless a directory is running a very sophisticated script

My version of the "faint hope clause" I agree it is a longshot. And the Google suggestion is also good.
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WarForNom 14 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

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Another reason my very best stuff never sees an article directory.

I'd love to read more about the alternatives alluded to here.
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skibbz 14 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

My thoughts exactly.

If you're going to crawl out from under your rock to mangle my content, please take my name off of it.

hahahaha john let them know how dare them? they are unethical:p
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NicoleBeckett

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

I would care very much indeed.

That's my reputation as an authority on whatever-subject-it-is attached to an "unreadable" article. That's the single most valuable and irreplacable asset of my business.

You honestly wouldn't care about that?!

Absolutely!! This actually happened to a very close friend of mine - She had published a bunch of articles promoting her ebook. The articles contained legal and insurance issues (stuff that HAS to be accurate and worded very carefully). Well, someone took one of the articles, kept her links, and spun it to holy Hades. The article was a mangled, embarrassing mess - all with her name and link right there for the world to see.

As far as I'm concerned, if you're intent on mangling my content, at least do me the courtesy of pulling my name off it! I don't want your stupidity to jeopardize my credibility.

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skibbz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by NicoleBeckett

As far as I'm concerned, if you're intent on mangling my content, at least do me the courtesy of pulling my name off it! I don't want your stupidity to jeopardize my credibility.

To be honest nicole i dont know what these people are thinking:confused:

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brendan301

14 years ago

once it's on their blog it's not much you can do about. i guess you could send the owner an email requesting that they NOT do that, or offer them another readable article for their blog.

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clorets01

14 years ago

The web should have some kind of copyright protection embedded in it. I hate these kinds of stories. Not sure there is anything you can do except contact the dude and ask him to remove the article.

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jazbo

14 years ago

Ah, but if it was almost unrecognisable, at what point does it cease to be the original article? I'm not saying its ok, but it is an interesting point.

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WarForNom 14 years ago

Originally Posted by jazbo

Ah, but if it was almost unrecognisable, at what point does it cease to be the original article? I'm not saying its ok, but it is an interesting point.

Philosophers call it Epistemic Uncertainty. They have been arguing over it since Aristotle.

Yes the question stands unresolved. Even so, I think that very few philosophers would want their articles to re-appear in scrambled fashion, still bearing their name.

Note to philosophers: be careful which article distribution service you use the next you try to turn your refutation of Aristotle into $3333.00 per week on autopilot.
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rg5

14 years ago

I agree with both sides. I spend quality time writing articles, and it sucks that some people cant respect that, but I will move forward to my ultimate goal of financial freedom! Thanks for the prompt replies

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Nightowl

14 years ago

Unfortunately, content theft of all kinds is a fact of life online. Search around the forum here, and you'll see it's a common complaint.

If this is just the one instance, I'd say move on and not worry about it. Given that the spun piece is just about unintelligible, hardly anyone will go past the first couple of lines. And if they do have the stomach to reach the end and click the link, they'll have a pleasant surprise when they reach your site.

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