This guy makes $50,000 AN HOUR!

[Chris Kent]

That equates to 438 million a year assuming 24/7 income.

Assuming you work for a third of the day, that is still 146 million annually.

I find this very hard to believe. I suspect he is extrapolating.

I can do that too. If I make 100 bucks in a 2 minute period on Clickbank, that equates to 8.7 million a year assuming 8 hours a day. lol!

This guy's claims sound like half of the WSO titles i.e. EXAGGERATED

[michael_dans]

I don't believe that a person could be so capable that he could make $50k per hour. He is just boasting to grab some attention for some other purpose. I think no one should believe him, if this was true then he must have become the richest man in just one month.

[emcknutt]

Originally Posted by michael_dans

I don't believe that a person could be so capable that he could make $50k per hour. He is just boasting to grab some attention for some other purpose. I think no one should believe him, if this was true then he must have become the richest man in just one month.

This sounds like an interesting eye grabbing headline that is usually followed by BS information.

I believe in the tooth fairy too.

[nicelife]

I'm pretty sure he doesn't make $50.000 every hour, he might have done it during a product launch or similar!

Don't believe the hype my friend!

[davemiz]

doesn't make 50k an hour everyday... LOL

the dude is in the RE niche. they sell via webinars. they sell VERY high ticket programs in the RE niche.

so.... it shouldnt be too difficult to sell 50k worth of stuff when you're selling products with a 2-10k price tag.

[Thomas]

Originally Posted by theemperor

What is his name?

Felix Dennis, the guy behind Maxim magazine. (I got the reason for prison wrong; that was someone else I was thinking of. He was actually in prison for publishing supposedly-obscene materials, but got a lesser sentence than his co-accused because the Judge thought he was a bit slow. )

Originally Posted by theemperor

...I don't believe this story is true.

That's okay. I didn't mention it to try to convince you of it's validity. Lots of people refuse to believe stuff for one reason or another. It's no 'biggie', as they say.

[tpw]

Originally Posted by michael_dans

I don't believe that a person could be so capable that he could make $50k per hour. He is just boasting to grab some attention for some other purpose. I think no one should believe him, if this was true then he must have become the richest man in just one month.

Originally Posted by emcknutt

This sounds like an interesting eye grabbing headline that is usually followed by BS information.

Originally Posted by nicelife

I'm pretty sure he doesn't make $50.000 every hour, he might have done it during a product launch or similar!

Don't believe the hype my friend!

Originally Posted by davemiz

doesn't make 50k an hour everyday... LOL

the dude is in the RE niche. they sell via webinars. they sell VERY high ticket programs in the RE niche.

so.... it shouldnt be too difficult to sell 50k worth of stuff when you're selling products with a 2-10k price tag.

Dave: You were the only one anywhere close...

The "$50,000 per hour" is not based on Internet sales...

1. This revenue statistic is not based on Internet sales;

2. This revenue statistic does not represent money earned during product launches;

3. This person likely does not work 40-hours per week, like the average wage-slave -- unless he enjoys his work;

4. The "$50,000 per hour" hourly wage is based on his after-employee costs, and it is based on him spending 30-minutes sitting at the closing table on a real estate deal. His average earnings, after paying expenses, is $25,000 per transaction;

5. He is doing real estate short sales; and

6. He is not calculating these revenues based on his "real estate business in a box" sales, but rather the time he sits at the closing table in the average real estate deal...



... changed "This Person" to "This revenue statistic" because it was being misinterpreted...

... This person does earn money online, but his "$50,000 per hour" claim is based entirely upon his real estate transactions, which he will teach you how to do in his short sale courses he sells online...

[Marian Berghes]

Originally Posted by Thomas

Felix Dennis, the guy behind Maxim magazine. (I got the reason for prison wrong; that was someone else I was thinking of. He was actually in prison for publishing supposedly-obscene materials, but got a lesser sentence than his co-accused because the Judge thought he was a bit slow. )



That's okay. I didn't mention it to try to convince you of it's validity. Lots of people refuse to believe stuff for one reason or another. It's no 'biggie', as they say.

I knew I recognized that story from somewhere...gotta finish reading his biography.

thanks for the reminder

[ShawnPeter]

Sometimes the truth is hard to swallow, even if its the truth. : )

[Thomas Belknap]

Originally Posted by tpw

Dave: You were the only one anywhere close...

1. This person does not sell online;

2. This person does not do product launches;

3. This person does not work 40-hours per week, like the average wage-slave;

4. The hourly wage is based on his after-employee costs, and it is based on him spending 30-minutes sitting at the closing table on a real estate deal. His average earnings, after paying expenses, is $25,000 per transaction;

5. He is doing real estate short sales; and

6. He is not calculating these revenues based on his "real estate business in a box" sales, but rather the time he sits at the closing table in the average real estate deal...

Bill, I wouldn't waste my breathe. This thread proves that people just don't know how to read.

Love the herd!

[vishalduggal]

He may made this money only one time.
For Example maybe he have a list of 50,000 subscribers.
He send them an email with a product recommendation and he is making 75$ profit with every sell.
He just need to sell 700 to make $52,000.
And it is very easy if your list is very much responsive and you made some presell method also to increase sells.

[Marksv]

Originally Posted by King Shiloh

Please don't allow anyone to increase your adrenalin level beyond normal.

Focus on what you are doing and get the best out of it - NO DISTRACTIONS!

WOW!

Those are some great words to live by!

I love it!

[Bill Farnham]

Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap

I wouldn't waste my breathe. This thread proves that people just don't know how to read.

What was this thread about, again?

Oh yea, how a guy is claiming he's made $13.89 a second since birth...

I'd never want to do that. Too many taxes...

~Bill

[Thomas Belknap]

Originally Posted by Bill Farnham

What was this thread about, again?

Oh yea, how a guy is claiming he's made $13.89 a second since birth...

I'd never want to do that. Too many taxes...

~Bill

Bill, he only worked one second! Can't you read?

[Scott Million]

Originally Posted by Richard Van

I just got an email off a "guru" saying he knows a guy, not in the IM niche that makes 50k an hour, and he's going to "grill" him over a webinar. Assuming the guys doing that on autopilot 24/7 that means he's on around $438,000,000 a year.

Is it me or does it seem odd that....

a) He wants to tell everyone about it, and

b) He's bothering to get out of bed and do a webinar?

I've unsubscribed from this guy on the basis that I don't believe the claims and would probably develop a serious drug problem on that sort of cash.

Does anyone make that sort of money, like anywhere?

We all know (or should know) income claims like that refer to a particular period of time that took a lot of prep to setup in order to hit that mark for whatever amount of time. For example, building a huge list, getting JV partners, creating a product, etc. and then sending 4 emails launching the product with partners and grossing $250,038 in 48 hours or whatever.

Personally, I think Ryan Deiss delivers some of the best material available from his own products on marketing. I've never grabbed the ones where he promotes someone else's, but when him and Perry are together I always get more gems than my money's worth.

Now, when do grab a Ryan Deiss product it's not in the mindset of having no money and thinking this will change my life, but rather, from the mindset of "I know I'll get a gem in here I can quickly implement in my current business and make a ****load extra this month... or many months."

The email you're speaking of turns me off as well, and is definitely speaking to the "no or little money online" crowd... I just delete it and stay on the list from when he targets the more serious crowd. There's definitely a lot to learn from Ryan, and he really does open the curtains when he promotes his "from my experience" offers... there's usually a special bonus script in there that's worth the price alone.

[Jimmy Reilly]

Originally Posted by Richard Van

I just got an email off a "guru" saying he knows a guy, not in the IM niche that makes 50k an hour, and he's going to "grill" him over a webinar. Assuming the guys doing that on autopilot 24/7 that means he's on around $438,000,000 a year.

Is it me or does it seem odd that....

a) He wants to tell everyone about it, and

b) He's bothering to get out of bed and do a webinar?

I've unsubscribed from this guy on the basis that I don't believe the claims and would probably develop a serious drug problem on that sort of cash.

Does anyone make that sort of money, like anywhere?

George Soros and Steven Cohen make 2 - 3 times that each year. Good luck getting guys of that caliber to do a 'webinar' unless you work for CNBC.

[pyles]

The original post is the reason why I don't subscribe to email lists.

[tpw]

Originally Posted by Bill Farnham

What was this thread about, again?

Oh yea, how a guy is claiming he's made $13.89 a second since birth...

I'd never want to do that. Too many taxes...

~Bill

Dad! Dad! Is that you? Are you back from the grave?

[Steven Fullman]

Does the guy have conclusive proof?

Yes | No

Does he offer a way for YOU to copy his actions, so YOU can get the same results?

Yes | No

Does it help YOU?...not some bonus-hungry dude offering all their previous $197 products for free, so long as you buy through their link (strictly limited)

Does it help YOU?

[bugbuguk]

its all lies! lies lies lies

[Greg guitar]

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

On the other hand, the philosophy of "If something sounds too good to be true, it usually is" is also one I dismiss and reject, I admit, because if followed to its logical conclusion it means that one should wait around for and investigate only opportunities which sound "bad enough to be true", which is hardly going to be a winning long-term strategy!

I know I get pretty excited by opportunities that are "bad enough to be true"! Like writing $3 articles for other Warriors-that one sounds just bad enough-can't wait to get started! Great phrase; it makes your point and is funny to boot! It amazes me how hard some people will work in the race to the bottom.

[evertd]

Originally Posted by Richard Van

Ron I wasn't picking a fight mate. If he made it in one hour thats totally believable but the email said "$50,000 an hour" which to me implied he does this every hour, I may have got the wrong end of the stick.

Re teaching him a lesson by unsubscribing-I unsubscribe every time I get an email off him but never seem to get off his list, I had a bad experience with him over a refund some time ago. Thats my personal problem. I don't have time to teach him any lessons thats why I've not named him in the thread.

All I thought was it was a bit extreme. For your information I signed up for the webinar just to see what it is but yes I am skeptical if the claim is he earns that every hour. Not saying it's not possible but it is a bold claim.

I'm confused by "I unsubscribe every time I get an email off him" ... why are you still reading his emails if you tried to unsubscribe? If he is still mailing you, just hit the spam button and you'll never have to see his emails again. Or better yet, report him to the FTC.

[jtpada]

Richard,

this webinar invite... how much would it have cost you to attend? Or was it free?

Cheers,

[Scott Ames]

I made $33,000 in a few hours, does that count?

[davemiz]

note to all you marketers.... look at the response this thread got from ONE email ryan sent.

kudos to him

[kyhell]

food for thought.....
when i do an offline seminar I usually charge $997 a seat cap it at 60 seats normally sell 50 to 55 at times i sell completely out. so at 50 seats thats $49850.00 for one seminar.
a seminar lasts 3 to 4 hours but once you subtract the breaks and the meal period I only have to "work" 2.5 to 3 hours tops
plus the back end sales at times can equal what was made from the initial seminar.

I guess it makes me chuckle when i hear people scoff at the idea of making huge amounts of money in a very short period of time. Just because you haven't done it doesn't mean that it cant be done.

[dagaul101]

$438 million, that is more than the budget of many countries, I would doubt his claims

[mnonline]

It quite possible. Like Bill Gate for example? However 400mil + a year is insane. Only a few can achieve this level. Wait for another 10+ years and he will be the richest person in the world or can he?

[tpw]

Originally Posted by kyhell

food for thought.....

I guess it makes me chuckle when i hear people scoff at the idea of making huge amounts of money in a very short period of time. Just because you haven't done it doesn't mean that it cant be done.

Well said...

[Richard Van]

Holy moly.

For all you guys and girls that have a little problem reading past the first post.

The guy Ryans on about isn't in IM. He's in real estate, he flips homes, he has a team that does this for him and he probably can make 50k an hour if he can flip about 8-10 homes a day. I was skeptical at first, hence the thread but I'm not now.

Jtpada- webinars free but you'll need to buy his course to figure it out. If you're not into property and never will, it's probably not worth going.

evertd- I read this email because it says the guy makes 50k an hour. It's called a hook, it made me read it. Ryans a good marketer like that.

Kyhell- I know and if you'd read the thread, you'd know I know. I said that already. Read the thread. Read this post, with what he does he can make 50k an hour. He has a team doing the deals for him, he's not a one man band. If the comment was aimed at me, please don't think I'm so shallow that I think just because I don't make 50k an hour no one else can. That would make me the richest guy in the world, I'm not. If aimed at the others who didn't bother to read the thread, well said.

[paulie888]

I know precisely who you're talking about. I don't doubt the veracity of this $50,000 per hour figure, but he DOES NOT do this on a regular basis. It's only when he successfully flips a foreclosure property that he makes $50k per hour - signing some paperwork, talking on the phone and closing the deal with the buyer!

So he is telling the truth, but earning $50k per hour is NOT an every day occurrence for him - it ONLY occurs when he successfully flips a property, which might be just 2-3 times a month!!

[paulie888]

I also forgot to mention that the guy pulls in big numbers when he does his webinars (selling his real estate information product on short sales, of course)...coincidentally, they run for about an hour!

I don't doubt there have been webinars where he's earned $50k, though I'm sure they're not an everyday occurrence either. $50k is actually kind of on the low end for a webinar, as Tellman Knudson has claimed that he has earned $1 million (his all-time best so far) from running ONE webinar!

[tpw]

Originally Posted by paulie888

So he is telling the truth, but earning $50k per hour is NOT an every day occurrence for him - it ONLY occurs when he successfully flips a property, which might be just 2-3 times a month!!

Working only three hours a month, for $50k per month... Not too bad for any person seeking the lifestyle of the rich and famous... LOL

[singhavn]

50k per is unbelievable. It is more than what many people earn in whole year.

[Chris Ingham]

Originally Posted by singhavn

50k per is unbelievable. It is more than what many people earn in whole year.

I don't see how you cannot believe that he can turn deals on a "fairly" regular basis that turn this kind of cash for 1-2 hours of his actual involvement.

He has others do his running, and he is a money man. He moves properties and has no problem exaggerating his earnings because the more it looks like you earn the more other wealthy people want to work with you in that business.

In IM? Yeah, it can be done as well, but it will be spikes and lots more time. Even if he has others do the work, it will take lots more time.

Either way I bet you can find his book for sale on Amazon or something like that for much less than he is offering it. Probably better to know the methods and not use them, than to have no idea what other ways there are to make money for being diversified is smart. I would also say that many a rich man has said, when others are selling, it is the time to buy. Just because the market is low doesn't mean it is the time to lay back. If you have the ability and the drive money can be made in any market, at any economic status.

Chris

[benjamindh]

wow...

spend all your time gossiping about people with success you will never make it yourself - thats the way i see it.

We can all spend too long thinking about other peoples success and not working on our own.

I have heard about people making this kind of money - a friend of mine personally knows someone who makes over £1,000,000 a week - when you break that down to a 40 hour work week - thats £25,000 an hour - when put into dollars thats about $34k per hour!! so I do not see why that is not unrealistic!

It is the internet - so anything can be done... I imagine that the owner of Facebook and the owner of eBay make more money than that!

I hope that helps.

Personally I would have stayed on that persons list to find out more lol!
If you can provide me a link so that i can opt in - I would want to learn more about how to get to that sort of wealth!!

Thanks
Ben

[paulie888]

Originally Posted by tpw

Working only three hours a month, for $50k per month... Not too bad for any person seeking the lifestyle of the rich and famous... LOL

Not a bad way to do this at all, and furthermore I know for a fact he schedules regular "autopilot" recorded webinars (often on the weekends) that rake in the money even when he's off doing whatever the heck he pleases!

[paulie888]

Instead of trying to pick the guy apart, why don't you instead try to be more constructive (as opposed to destructive) in your approach and dissect what he does in order to learn from him?? It's incredibly easy to dismiss something as hype or scam, but instead of being cynical why don't we endeavor to learn something useful from the actions of these guys?

[benjamindh]

Originally Posted by paulie888

Instead of trying to pick the guy apart, why don't you instead try to be more constructive (as opposed to destructive) in your approach and dissect what he does in order to learn from him?? It's incredibly easy to dismiss something as hype or scam, but instead of being cynical why don't we endeavor to learn something useful from the actions of these guys?

Couldn't agree more...

If someone is making 50k an hour - which i think is achievable - then why not learn how to do it yourself...

The internet is a big place and there is A LOT of money to be made. You just need to learn how it is done!

Ben

[Mangozoom]

Yh when I start making that much I will not be doing any webinars, in fact all I will do is Chillax ... sounds like BS with the greatest respect

John

[iamchrisgreen]

Originally Posted by spearce000

He may have made $50k in an hour (one time) if it was a product launch or something. What he doesn't tell you is that it probably took about a year of work to get to that hour.

I bet that's exactly what it is.

[Richard Van]

Originally Posted by benjamindh

Couldn't agree more...

If someone is making 50k an hour - which i think is achievable - then why not learn how to do it yourself...

The internet is a big place and there is A LOT of money to be made. You just need to learn how it is done!

Ben

Thats very true Ben, except the guy Ryans introducing you to isn't in Internet marketing, he's in real estate. He does short sales. It's mentioned quite a few times throughout the thread and with the team he's got doing this he can make 50k an hour. His names Nathan Jurewicz. Google it, I did.

[kartikkhattar]

once i made $50,000 in one hour... it's not that tough, it's very easy. Just keep thinking about $50,000 and go to bed... and that night you sure will make that much ... i made it , but then the alarm went on and i got up cz had 2 leave for work

[Trapped]

oh just order the guy a cake from a shop next to his address and get it delivered to him as "congratulations for your success, can you now please unsubscribe me from your list?"

[tehnolife]

Hmmm...let me think, ...you can make 50,000$ per hour if you rob a bank every 8 hours or just a big bank a day.

This is one solution !

[Daniel Jones]

No way. Total scam!

[tpw]

Originally Posted by Daniel Jones

No way. Total scam!

No way... Nobody reads anymore? LOL

[Saluki Guy]

Do you have the guy's name.

[Richard Van]

It's all in the thread dude, need to read it, just a few posts back and in quite a few other posts. Well said Bill.

[paulie888]

Actually, the statements that have been made about the guy only making his money from selling real estate are patently untrue. I know for a fact that he has a huge email list, and he markets his big-ticket physical real estate course via prerecorded webinars over and over again - he's done this for well over a year now.