This guy makes $50,000 AN HOUR!

[Richard Van]

I just got an email off a "guru" saying he knows a guy, not in the IM niche that makes 50k an hour, and he's going to "grill" him over a webinar. Assuming the guys doing that on autopilot 24/7 that means he's on around $438,000,000 a year.

Is it me or does it seem odd that....

a) He wants to tell everyone about it, and

b) He's bothering to get out of bed and do a webinar?

I've unsubscribed from this guy on the basis that I don't believe the claims and would probably develop a serious drug problem on that sort of cash.

Does anyone make that sort of money, like anywhere?

[cashmagnet]

50K per hour is a massive claim and really does need alot of backup if stated

[spearce000]

He may have made $50k in an hour (one time) if it was a product launch or something. What he doesn't tell you is that it probably took about a year of work to get to that hour.

[Shaolinsteve]

There's a possibility he made it over a launch of some sort but i highly doubt his making that an hour every day of the week.


Just as cashmagnet said backup is indeed something this "guru" would need to provide.

[Alexa Smith]

Call me a skepchick, but to me it sounds suspiciously like one of those claims that turns out to have the same sort of underlying basis as the people who "make $300,000 in one weekend" (those are characteristically more or less the payment for two years' work on something, and sometimes shared with a large number of other people as well).

On the other hand, the philosophy of "If something sounds too good to be true, it usually is" is also one I dismiss and reject, I admit, because if followed to its logical conclusion it means that one should wait around for and investigate only opportunities which sound "bad enough to be true", which is hardly going to be a winning long-term strategy!

The solution to these scenarios, for me, is to remain interested and willing to investigate, and not be dismissive/rejecting without detailed examination, but from a healthily skepchick viewpoint.

[King Shiloh]

How much does the "guru" make in an hour?

Please don't allow anyone to increase your adrenalin level beyond normal.

Focus on what you are doing and get the best out of it - NO DISTRACTIONS!

[Ron Douglas]

Originally Posted by Richard Van

Is it me or does it seem odd that....

a) He wants to tell everyone about it, and

Why not? Do you think he's so afraid that others will copy his ideas that he has to hide them? Lots of successful people do books (autobiographies) explaining the details of their success.

b) He's bothering to get out of bed and do a webinar?

I guess when you make good money you should lay in bed all day and do nothing to prove how rich you are.

I've unsubscribed from this guy on the basis that I don't believe the claims and would probably develop a serious drug problem on that sort of cash.

You really taught him a lesson. Next time he'll know not to interview anyone with an extraordinary success story.

[indexphp]

^^^LOL.

You took the words right out of my mouth. And were wittier than I could be in the delivery

[imguru]

Of course you can make $50,000 in one hour. But not every hour of the day, every week, every month. That's just stupid. I can host a seminar with $1,000 seats and 50 people = $50K

[Richard Van]

Ron I wasn't picking a fight mate. If he made it in one hour thats totally believable but the email said "$50,000 an hour" which to me implied he does this every hour, I may have got the wrong end of the stick.

Re teaching him a lesson by unsubscribing-I unsubscribe every time I get an email off him but never seem to get off his list, I had a bad experience with him over a refund some time ago. Thats my personal problem. I don't have time to teach him any lessons thats why I've not named him in the thread.

All I thought was it was a bit extreme. For your information I signed up for the webinar just to see what it is but yes I am skeptical if the claim is he earns that every hour. Not saying it's not possible but it is a bold claim.

[theemperor]

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Call me a skepchick, but to me it sounds suspiciously like one of those claims that turns out to have the same sort of underlying basis as the people who "make $300,000 in one weekend"

Well a $300k weekend is just 6 hours work - sounds like a lazy weekend. Geez the slackers!

[sal64]

lol... you can get the WSO for $7.

$50k an hour sounds misleading... probably $50k in an hour of a launch.

Or took him 1 hour to list a site on Flippa which sold for $50k.

[Halli]

If everybody on the Warrior Forum pay me 10$ each then I'll tell you how I made 2.238.960$ over a very short period

[macchiavelli]

$50k per hour is doable.
But it wont be a long term income I would say.

Unless its some massively popular product which we all need.

But $50k in one hour is definetly doable.

[Brad Gosse]

Everyone assumes people who make money are too greedy to share their story. THen they question the motives, honesty etc.

It's really your own money blueprint that is dictating your skepticism.

The reality is we all know how Bill Gates, DOnald Trump and Mark Cuban made their money but we can't duplicate their success even with every last detail.

What people need to get over is that their are no secrets, magic beans or other information that will make you rich. Only your actions can do that.

[Richard Van]

Originally Posted by Brad Gosse

Everyone assumes people who make money are too greedy to share their story. THen they question the motives, honesty etc.

It's really your own money blueprint that is dictating your skepticism.

The reality is we all know how Bill Gates, DOnald Trump and Mark Cuban made their money but we can't duplicate their success even with every last detail.

What people need to get over is that their are no secrets, magic beans or other information that will make you rich. Only your actions can do that.

Share their story....or sell it at the end of the webinar? I'll let you know after the webinar.

Like I said before, making 50k in an hour is very doable. 50k every hour is a bit harder. My money blueprint makes me money. My skepticism is dictated by the fact the guy pointing me to the webinar sold me a c*** course with a 100% money back gaurantee then only offered me half the money back after I returned the product and wanted the refund. I also can't get off his mailing list despite multiple attempts to unsubscribe, whick makes his email spam. I'm not skeptical about life I just simply don't trust this person.

[tpw]

Originally Posted by Richard Van

Share their story....or sell it at the end of the webinar? I'll let you know after the webinar.

Like I said before, making 50k in an hour is very doable. 50k every hour is a bit harder. My money blueprint makes me money. My skepticism is dictated by the fact the guy pointing me to the webinar sold me a c*** course with a 100% money back gaurantee then only offered me half the money back after I returned the product and wanted the refund. I also can't get off his mailing list despite multiple attempts to unsubscribe, whick makes his email spam. I'm not skeptical about life I just simply don't trust this person.

Sorry for the disconnect, but your original post did not lay down a foundation of distrust you have for the guru whose list advertised the webinar...

Your complete argument was focused on whether $50k every hour was doable, and you were taking swipes at the honesty of the person who is to be represented in the webinar...

Now your argument has changed and you are changing the focus of your original question to reframe your question as to the legitimacy of the promoter of the webinar...

Perhaps next time you will preface your argument with "I distrust the promoter because..."

Or maybe you need to change the structure of your statement to find the agreement you seek...

[Lance K]

Originally Posted by Richard Van

All I thought was it was a bit extreme. For your information I signed up for the webinar just to see what it is but yes I am skeptical if the claim is he earns that every hour. Not saying it's not possible but it is a bold claim.

Did they say "every hour"? If not, I'd say that's more of a bold assumption on your part than a bold claim on theirs.

[JustinDupre]

Originally Posted by spearce000

He may have made $50k in an hour (one time) if it was a product launch or something. What he doesn't tell you is that it probably took about a year of work to get to that hour.

This answer make the most sense to me. If he was that good we should probably have heard of him or see him somewhere on the media.

[Richard Van]

Originally Posted by tpw

Sorry for the disconnect, but your original post did not lay down a foundation of distrust you have for the guru whose list advertised the webinar...

Your complete argument was focused on whether $50k every hour was doable, and you were taking swipes at the honesty of the person who is to be represented in the webinar...

Now your argument has changed and you are changing the focus of your original question to reframe your question as to the legitimacy of the promoter of the webinar...

Perhaps next time you will preface your argument with "I distrust the promoter because..."

Or maybe you need to change the structure of your statement to find the agreement you seek...

Ok fair point. It's the guy who's pointing me to the webinar I mistrust but he's the guy saying his friend makes $50k an hour, I admit I'm influenced by being stung in the past and I apologise for that.

Lance it says $50,000 an hour, not $50,000 in one hour I personally find it misleading. Over here when someone gets a job they get $xxx an hour. Maybe thats just a language difference and where you are you say "I want to be paid $xxx every hour". I don't know. Either way it's not a bold statement because where I am it implies every hour. Apologies to you if you think I've made a bold assumption it was just the way I interpreted it.

I'm just going to wait for the webinar and see whats offered. Sorry and no offense intended to any of you.

[abdul786]

Hmmm, i posted a comment and now editing

Thanks for the quick clarification.

[rosetrees]

I wonder what he means by "makes"? If he "takes" that amount per hour, I'd wonder what his costs are.

What is his real profit?

[Richard Van]

Originally Posted by JustinDupre

This answer make the most sense to me. If he was that good we should probably have heard of him or see him somewhere on the media.

I think you're probably right. In which case it's no big deal really, indeed the guy pointing me towards the webinar must make that amount quite regularly so must his affiliates when he launches his products, 50k in just one hour as a one off's more than believeable and not a bold claim at all.

[rosetrees]

Bill Gates doing a "charity" webinar??

[Richard Van]

Originally Posted by Black Magick

Why unsubscribe and blow the guy off? You could probably learn something. And yes, there are people making hundreds of millions of dollars a year in income. Look at the world's Billionaires.

In my honest opinion, whether the guy meant $50k PER HOUR or $50k IN AN HOUR --- either way, you should listen to him and at least hear him out. As a matter of fact, what's the name of his company? I'll check it out.

I've said in 2 previous posts why I've unsubscribed from his list, have a look back over them. I've also said I will be going to the webinar on this page. I'm also well aware people make $50 an hour and every hour.

I don't know what the guys company is he's just a "guru" telling me about a guy he knows. Like I said in my last post, I'll just wait for the webinar and find out for myself what it's about.

[Scott Ames]

‎I have received the same email. It says: "He rakes in up to $50,000 an HOUR on a regular basis" Note the words 'up to' and "regular basis" . That to me doesn't imply 24/7 on autopilot.

Also, it's a webinar and chance to find out how it's done. Why not listen in and find out then decide if it's true or not?

[Richard Van]

Originally Posted by Scott Ames

‎I have received the same email. It says: "He rakes in up to $50,000 an HOUR on a regular basis" Note the words 'up to' and "regular basis" . That to me doesn't imply 24/7 on autopilot.

Also, it's a webinar and chance to find out how it's done. Why not listen in and find out then decide if it's true or not?

I just re read that and you're quite right I apologise I think my mistrust for the guy because of whats happenned in the past explained on this page caused me to react the wrong way. RE listening to the webinar I've said I'm going to do that in 3 of my posts on this page, including my last one.

[harro1]

Originally Posted by Richard Van

I just got an email off a "guru" saying he knows a guy, not in the IM niche that makes 50k an hour, and he's going to "grill" him over a webinar. Assuming the guys doing that on autopilot 24/7 that means he's on around $438,000,000 a year.

Is it me or does it seem odd that....

a) He wants to tell everyone about it, and

b) He's bothering to get out of bed and do a webinar?

I've unsubscribed from this guy on the basis that I don't believe the claims and would probably develop a serious drug problem on that sort of cash.

Does anyone make that sort of money, like anywhere?

Not on this forum atleast

[beccol]

the only way i think someone gould make that would be if they got huge lists and promoting a very popular product

[WhoIsBenjamin]

Originally Posted by Richard Van

I just got an email off a "guru" saying he knows a guy, not in the IM niche that makes 50k an hour, and he's going to "grill" him over a webinar. Assuming the guys doing that on autopilot 24/7 that means he's on around $438,000,000 a year.

Is it me or does it seem odd that....

a) He wants to tell everyone about it, and

b) He's bothering to get out of bed and do a webinar?

I've unsubscribed from this guy on the basis that I don't believe the claims and would probably develop a serious drug problem on that sort of cash.

Does anyone make that sort of money, like anywhere?

Well, you never know man.

I personally would NOT have unsubscribed b/c yes, maybe it
was just a one (or few times) event. So what? It's someone
who I could learn from if I gave the guy a shot to check out
this webinar.

And you know what else?

What if that person IS making half a billion dollars a year as
the claims state? Would you kick yourself for not being OPEN
to the possibility of it being true?

I would. So, I wouldn't jump to conclusions yet because if you
know anything about Micheal Senoff, he's interviewed a few
actual billionaires.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you should take what the
email is saying at face value b/c it's a lot of junk out there,
but if it were coming from someone who I respect in the industry
(Frank Kern, Tony Robbins, Etc)...than I wouldn't discard the
email.

If you know it's spam -- than yea it's B.S. If not, you made a
mistake.

[sloanjim]

not 50k an Hour 24/7...no way!

[sloanjim]

yeah and out of kindness he just happens to share his "secret method" for $199...LOL I have a bridge I wantt to sell you...

What if that person IS making half a billion dollars a year as
the claims state? Would you kick yourself for not being OPEN
to the possibility of it being true?

[Rod Cortez]

50k an hour? What a slacker....

RoD

[Richard Van]

Originally Posted by WhoIsBenjamin

Well, you never know man.

I personally would NOT have unsubscribed b/c yes, maybe it
was just a one (or few times) event. So what? It's someone
who I could learn from if I gave the guy a shot to check out
this webinar.

And you know what else?

What if that person IS making half a billion dollars a year as
the claims state? Would you kick yourself for not being OPEN
to the possibility of it being true?

I would. So, I wouldn't jump to conclusions yet because if you
know anything about Micheal Senoff, he's interviewed a few
actual billionaires.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you should take what the
email is saying at face value b/c it's a lot of junk out there,
but if it were coming from someone who I respect in the industry
(Frank Kern, Tony Robbins, Etc)...than I wouldn't discard the
email.

If you know it's spam -- than yea it's B.S. If not, you made a
mistake.

Please just go back and read the actual thread. You find out why I unsubscribed and that I am going to the webinar. I've even done some digging around and I know exactly what this guy does now. He's not a gazillionaire.

Re. "If you know it's spam -- than yea it's B.S. If not, you made a
mistake" - I have unsubscribed from this guy many times and still get emails from him, that could make it spam. But as I know what the guy does now and I'm going to the webinar how can you say I'm making a mistake?

Finally, Tony Robbins is an Internet marketer???? What? He's a self help guru.

[Anoopchawla]

Never ever listen to such hyped claims, my personal experience says they are full of ****

[x3xsolxdierx3x]

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Call me a skepchick, but to me it sounds suspiciously like one of those claims that turns out to have the same sort of underlying basis as the people who "make $300,000 in one weekend" (those are characteristically more or less the payment for two years' work on something, and sometimes shared with a large number of other people as well).

On the other hand, the philosophy of "If something sounds too good to be true, it usually is" is also one I dismiss and reject, I admit, because if followed to its logical conclusion it means that one should wait around for and investigate only opportunities which sound "bad enough to be true", which is hardly going to be a winning long-term strategy!

The solution to these scenarios, for me, is to remain interested and willing to investigate, and not be dismissive/rejecting without detailed examination, but from a healthily skepchick viewpoint.

Hi Skepchick, nice to meet you.

Ryan Deiss is beginning to get a bit annoying.

(Yep...I got the email, as well...)

[Bill Farnham]

Well, since this guy makes his money doing 'short sales', if you're not looking to become a real estate flipper why bother listening to the webinar?

Don't tell me there's some 'magic bullet' about to be revealed...

~Bill

[Richard Van]

Ok thanks Soldier dude, now the cats out the bag. Google the guys name Ryans doing the webinar with Nathan Jurewicz. He does short sales, basically flipping property, will no doubt make good money. He also has a nice shiny $499 CD course explaining how you can do it to.

Bill the property markets lower than it's been for years here, I used to be heavily involved in property, I'd like to see if it can work here or if he has any ideas I can use. Though I won't be buying whats going to be pitched.

[x3xsolxdierx3x]

Originally Posted by Richard Van

Ok thanks Soldier dude, now the cats out the bag. Google the guys name Ryans doing the webinar with Nathan Jurewicz. He does short sales, basically flipping property, will no doubt make good money. He also has a nice shiny $499 CD course explaining how you can do it to.

It may be worth a listen, if you are into what they are teaching.

As mentioned earlier in this thread, I believe the words "up to" were used in the headline of the email, which inherently allows for alot of possibilities....it's certainly not a 24/7 thing. In fact, he may have only made $50,000 during one hour of a product launch or something, which, then, it could also be debated that those earnings were attributable to his product sales, as opposed to his actual method/teaching. Who knows...

[DogScout]

Plenty of companies make over ½ a billion a year. That won't even get you on the Forbes 500. The guy that started Groupon will make over 1 billion this year, his second year with the site. ½ a billion is not that far fetched. I am a bit confused as to why it is so unbelievable. Unless you find it unbelievable that this particular 'guru' had access and was enough of a friend to the person for him to do the 'guru' a favor?

[Biggy Fat]

$1,200,000 a day? I am really unsure if I can believe that.

[DogScout]

There are one man companies selling alpaca hypo-allergic baby blankets doing over that. In some markets, that is not a lot. I AM sure there are some 'undisclosed' expenses, but perhaps not many?

[Richard Van]

Hi Dogscout.

He probably can get that kind of money from every property he does a short sale on. His names Nathan Jurewicz, google him. He has an expensive course that shows you how.

Is that your hat on the dog? I like that hat.

[DogScout]

Originally Posted by Richard Van

Hi Dogscout.

He probably can get that kind of money from every property he does a short sale on. His names Nathan Jurewicz, google him. He has an expensive course that shows you how.

Is that your hat on the dog? I like that hat.

Yeah, I heard of him. The guy that sold my house does 30-50 houses a month. @ an average of 6K each. Not hard to believe. That is Cheyenne, totally white-hat girl. LOL.

(His secret is he knows most of the big lenders short sale guys personally and so can get their attention (which is 90% of the battle) when others cannot.)

[longhotsummer]

It could only be Anthony Robbins!

[51down]

50k an Hour？ My God.

[Paul Schlegel]

Originally Posted by Richard Van

Re teaching him a lesson by unsubscribing-I unsubscribe every time I get an email off him but never seem to get off his list.

Maybe he's a dedicated learner.

[FredJones]

It sounds, at least at a surface level, that the claim was probably about making that one-off- maybe some big launch of a bigtime webinar. I mean, yes, I have read people making that kind of money here and there in webinars etc, but you don't run a webinar bringing in that much money 24x7 - it happens once in a while.

Else, this would be a very famous guy - at the levels of Frank Kern maybe?

[tpw]

Originally Posted by Richard Van

Ok thanks Soldier dude, now the cats out the bag. Google the guys name Ryans doing the webinar with Nathan Jurewicz. He does short sales, basically flipping property, will no doubt make good money. He also has a nice shiny $499 CD course explaining how you can do it to.

Bill the property markets lower than it's been for years here, I used to be heavily involved in property, I'd like to see if it can work here or if he has any ideas I can use. Though I won't be buying whats going to be pitched.

I have a buddy that short sales homes, and buys and sells dozens of homes per month, even in the current market place...

My buddy does it part time and still makes several thousand dollars a transaction, working only part time... While he could do more, I am sure, he is currently selling ten houses a month, with a minimum profit of $3k per house...

However not all sales are low-dollar... He recently bought and sold an apartment complex and made an easy $50k for a few days work over several weeks...

Anyone is real estate certainly has the capability to do this kind of volume...

I know several people who are dabbling in real estate, selling a few homes a month... Imagine if they did that full-time -- but not everyone is motivated to earn $50k an hour...

And why would he sell such a beautiful system for only $500? There are far more houses available in the marketplace than any single person could ever sell...

[Aleksejs Zuravlovs]

Pretty cool. Yeah, the person that comes to mind is Bill Gates, he probably did as much as 50k per hour

Funny fact - in ONE hour that guru makes as much as average worker in Latvia in 8.3 YEARS. So one day of work to him - more than two ENTIRE "LIFES" of usual work to Latvian person