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Justin Goff 7th September 2010 11:22 AM

How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
I'm in a good mood today, so Im gonna lay out for you my "playbook" for making money with Facebook.

I basically lost about $3,000 testing on Facebook before I made this campaign profitable. Im gonna share with you what I've learned and how I went from losing money to profiting $300-$1000 a day on Facebook...

The product: The 31 Day Fat Loss Cure (Clickbank product)

This is my own product, so commissions are higher than if you were an affiliate. However the campaigns Im running would still make you about $100 a day as an affiliate.

Targeting

Your target market is EVERYTHING on Facebook. I've had campaigns go from losing $200 a day to profiting $200 a day with just a simple change in my target market.

I usually have 2 different target markets...

1. Keyword based markets (ex... interested in Gardening)
2. Demographic markets... (ex.... women, ages 40-45 in the U.S.)

When it comes to keyword targeting I usually try to target "Likes" that people are interested in. So our product is a fat loss product, and one of the things many of our readers are interested in is "Gardening" - it fits one of our demographics of 40-65 year old women really well.

So in Facebook I would make ads targeted at women age 40+ interested in gardening, who also have a college degree.

I got this little tip from Shoemoney back when I was doing local leadgen through Facebook...

You will get much better conversions when you target people who have a college degree for certain products. In general, people with a college degree are more successful, care more for their health & image, and also have more money so your conversions are sure to go up when promoting something like The 31 Day Fat Loss Cure...

I also used this for a local dentist for a free teeth whitening offer - and when we switched to only targeting people with a college degree the conversions went through the roof.

Thats basically how I setup the targeting for keywords. Like I said, I also do some demographic targeting by age, country etc... and follow a similar method.

The Ads

I currently do all CPC on Facebook.

I used to do CPM, but I found that I was getting a lot of clicks from "App" traffic - and this is terrible traffic when you have a 20 minute sales video like we do. People playing Farmville or Mafia Wars might enter their email or do a lead gen offer, but they wont sit around and watch a 20 minute sales video.

So I stick with mostly CPC for that reason.

When it comes to your ad, the picture is the most important part by FAR... Nothing else is even close. Shoemoney told me that he broke it down like this...

-> 70% Picture
-> 20% Body Copy
-> 10% Headline

Now this is obviously different than the order of importance in a standard sales letter (the headline being the most important part)

Ad Examples

I can't post any of our ads here since I have a low post count...

When I put up new ads, I usually test a combination of 30 different ad images. Just look for pictures on Istockphoto.com and you can grab a bunch of them really quickly for pretty cheap.

BTW make sure you grab the FB Ad Manager from 4HourAffiliate.com. If you're serious about doing FB ads, you MUST have this. It saves me at least 30-40 hours of work per week.

Like I said, the image is the most important part by far. Don't "guess" and say you think you know a certain ad will work. I can guarantee you have no idea what will work on Facebook.

Ive had some pictures that I didnt even want to test because I thought they would suck, end up being the best pulling ad I had.

Other than testing your images, make sure you always put a call to action in your ads!

Something as simple as "Click here now..." works. You will always get a bump in CTR when you have a call to action on Facebook.

Bidding

Like I said, I always do CPC with Facebook...

When I bid on clicks I usually start them out with something like .31 per click (always bid .01 cent more, dont bid on .20, .25, .30 since thats where all the competition is)

Once my campaign is doing well with a good CTR (between .13 - .2) I'll drop the bid price back down to like .21 or so. Sometimes I'll go even lower with .16 or so (all depends on the demographic & conversions)


Ad Burn Out


Over time you're going to have to switch out the pictures and some of the ad copy because they will burn out on FB and your CTR will drop.

Most of the time I find my ads work well for 2-3 weeks with no problems.

Other Resources


Here are a few of the best free resources out there for Facebook Ads...

-> Guest post I did on the Shoemoney blog about Facebook
shoemoney.com/2010/06/21/dialing-in-your-facebook-campaigns/

-> Shoe's Aff. Summit FB presentation
shoemoney.com/facebook-advertising-soup-to-nuts-guide/

-> A good overview of FB ads from our affiliate center
31dayfatlosscure.com/facebook-ad-secrets/

Hopefully this will help a few people who are running campaigns already (or maybe it will get you started with Facebook Ads)

- Justin

adionline 7th September 2010 11:26 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
To add to this, CTR (Click-through-rate) is very important on Facebook, it can mean the difference between an ad getting a few hundred impressions or a few hundred thousand impressions. Facebook will always award more impressions to the ads with good CTR so keep that in mind when creating your ads, make them as appealing as possible and of course at the same time you still want to make them relevant so they convert for you.

Justin Goff 7th September 2010 11:33 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adionline (Post 2568927)
To add to this, CTR (Click-through-rate) is very important on Facebook, it can mean the difference between an ad getting a few hundred impressions or a few hundred thousand impressions. Facebook will always award more impressions to the ads with good CTR so keep that in mind when creating your ads, make them as appealing as possible and of course at the same time you still want to make them relevant so they convert for you.

Yes it is! Thats why the picture is so important...

x3xsolxdierx3x 7th September 2010 01:13 PM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Just thought I'd bump this thread up here with a response...it would be sad to see it fade off the first page so fast....

I just read through the entire Shoemoney thread, and found it quite enjoyable and insightful. (Thanks, Justin!)

I definitely don't want this to become an offshoot political discussion, but I did find the ad about the soldier to be quite compelling...the coupling of "NBC" with the word "Soldier", I believe lends quite a bit of trust and credibility regarding what (I hope) many would perceive as an honorable profession. I almost clicked on it on Shoemoney's blog and I know "what's" up with the kind of stuff...lol

Justin Goff 7th September 2010 01:34 PM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x (Post 2569308)
Just thought I'd bump this thread up here with a response...it would be sad to see it fade off the first page so fast....

I just read through the entire Shoemoney thread, and found it quite enjoyable and insightful. (Thanks, Justin!)

I definitely don't want this to become an offshoot political discussion, but I did find the ad about the soldier to be quite compelling...the coupling of "NBC" with the word "Soldier", I believe lends quite a bit of trust and credibility regarding what (I hope) many would perceive as an honorable profession. I almost clicked on it on Shoemoney's blog and I know "what's" up with the kind of stuff...lol

Thanks! Yeh I really like to hammer home the "soldier" part in our copy as it creates a lot of instant trust and positive associations...

Glad you liked the post on Shoe's blog!

- Justin

Bill_Z 7th September 2010 02:20 PM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Hi Justin - Great tips! I assume you are linking the ad directly to your sales video?

Justin Goff 7th September 2010 02:28 PM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill_Z (Post 2569542)
Hi Justin - Great tips! I assume you are linking the ad directly to your sales video?

Yeh direct link for sure - its an informationalvideo/sales video so they dont need to be presold as it's not a hard sell...

harrysidhu 7th September 2010 02:37 PM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
thanks for the post dude, its all about pin point marketing

Kevin AKA Hubcap 7th September 2010 03:45 PM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Hi Justin,

Just wondering if you've tested pointing the ads at a squeeze page vice the sales page then selling via e-mail?

TJ Kazunga 7th September 2010 03:56 PM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Hi Justin

Great post. I've gone back to add more image ads to my campaigns. I was testing like 5 or so but 30 - that opened my eyes!
Cheers
TJ

DNChamp 7th September 2010 04:03 PM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Im not sure if I saw it but what is your daily spending limit on FB. I want to try but im more like a $5 a day budgeter right now

Joel Gray 7th September 2010 04:41 PM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Justin,

Thank you for the excellent information, once again you can find information for free on the WF that should have a price tag attached.

Joel

affiliatesuperstar 7th September 2010 04:57 PM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Hey Justin
Great post. I have been advertising on FB for quite some time and through trial and error have obtained some good results. As you say the target market is key, and once you poise your ad to a market that has the money to purchase your product you will make many sales.

vstar00 7th September 2010 05:02 PM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Great post, really helpful. Gotta try my hand at some facebook advertising!

macchiavelli 7th September 2010 05:12 PM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Easily the best post ive read this month.

Great info.

I also got started with facebook marketing recently.
its a great way to make money, its easy compared to traditional media buying.

Justin Goff 7th September 2010 05:19 PM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin AKA Hubcap (Post 2569905)
Hi Justin,

Just wondering if you've tested pointing the ads at a squeeze page vice the sales page then selling via e-mail?

Yes I have, but I couldnt get it to be profitable - I would collect emails, and then forward them to the sales video (while putting them in a 14 day autoresponder)

The open rates of the emails was pretty weak, somewhere around 10%, so I scratched that idea and just went for the quick sale instead.

Justin Goff 7th September 2010 05:20 PM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DNChamp (Post 2569983)
Im not sure if I saw it but what is your daily spending limit on FB. I want to try but im more like a $5 a day budgeter right now

I think my limit is set at $3,000 per day from Facebook. I spend around $800-$1000 a day right now.

Rob Howard 7th September 2010 05:34 PM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
I've tried facebook advertising before and I have the damnest time getting the stupid things approved.

Facebook seems to either think my ad is insulting/demeaning or some other BS.

How do you get around that? Just keep trying new ads until they get through?

DNChamp 7th September 2010 05:39 PM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin Goff (Post 2570259)
I think my limit is set at $3,000 per day from Facebook. I spend around $800-$1000 a day right now.

DAMN!! Well I hope you are making money with that kind of budget LOL...Can small timers like me still do the same or does PPC, CPC etc all take huge budgets?

gjbajaj 8th September 2010 06:01 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Excellent strategies to sell products on facebook.
I would surely give out a try.

BigGameHunter 8th September 2010 06:55 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Good information I will implement some of your tips.

To the newbies... if you were to start a bricks and mortar store it costs money. If you don't know anything about what your doing... because you enter a market new to you, it costs more money because of overcoming the learning curve. Simple business.

The more experience you have the bigger the budget you will have to play with. Simple Math.

Richard Van 8th September 2010 08:10 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Thanks for that Justin.

I wish I'd seen this before. I actually bought a product for I think $47 that described what you did about the importance of demographics and some other stuff. Point is I could have saved some money by just implementing what you wrote. Dammm!

I can say though that what you're doing does work and I think it was better than the guide bought. Well done Justin.

theemperor 8th September 2010 08:19 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Justin

Thanks there is some good detail there. I am not a FB advertiser but I may be some day, so I have copied your post into my private Google Docs file for posterity and I am sure it will be useful some day.

Martin

keonit 8th September 2010 08:51 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
You must be mad, so I give you a Big Thank you and may your giving be returned 1,000,000 fold

Justin Goff 8th September 2010 09:57 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DNChamp (Post 2570307)
DAMN!! Well I hope you are making money with that kind of budget LOL...Can small timers like me still do the same or does PPC, CPC etc all take huge budgets?

Yep - I would start with free traffic sources and build up some capital (this is what I did. I made like $6k, then started to spend that on paid traffic)

If you just play around with $100 at a time, you're pretty much wasting your money. Because once you get it dialed in, you won't have anything left to spend!

DNChamp 8th September 2010 10:19 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin Goff (Post 2573030)
Yep - I would start with free traffic sources and build up some capital (this is what I did. I made like $6k, then started to spend that on paid traffic)

If you just play around with $100 at a time, you're pretty much wasting your money. Because once you get it dialed in, you won't have anything left to spend!

yea I figured as much :( Anyone know any facebook codes to start ;)

Fabioftc 8th September 2010 09:28 PM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Hi Justing I am new on facebook adds and I like to know how your coaching program work , is on videos , by phone one and one ????

Please give me some more info about it .

Thanks
Fabio

davemiz 8th September 2010 10:00 PM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
justin.... good post.... solid advice 'from the trenches' how are you tracking all the diff ads on facebook?

miamibill 8th September 2010 10:02 PM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
looks good

iamchrisgreen 9th September 2010 09:49 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
I like this kind of post. It get's everyone starting to think about their target market more.

People waste a ton of time on scattergun approaches when it comes to SEO. Not seeming to care if they are wasting a TON of their own time.

But when you are paying for the traffic, you need to be pinpointing your audience. What they like, do and want.

Great article Justin

VeitSchenk 9th September 2010 09:55 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Hey Justin, great post, thanks for that!

quick question regarding the product: I was under the impression that
FB didn't like weightloss and similar programs.
Did I mis-understand that? (I've had a few campaigns disapproved because
they were promoting weightloss programs, I guess I should've promoted your's, ey?)

Veit

socialbookmark 9th September 2010 10:01 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
I have got my mistake now. My main content was text without images. So i am going to try your way. I think images are more effective always. thanks man.

Rukshan 9th September 2010 10:05 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
What a great success in Facebook. But for me, they didn't approve my ads. Can you share some tips to make a suitable landing page?

raj.uk 9th September 2010 10:05 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Very Genorous information, thank you.

Raj

jbrett 9th September 2010 10:14 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Thanks, I love facebook stuff! :)

Hogni 9th September 2010 10:31 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Thank you for providing this information, Justin.

I've been playing around with Facebook ads for a while, mostly low budget. Never had much success with Facebook though...

I, too, was testing too few images and ad versions. I always knew split testing was what PPC was all about... however, as the OP said: You, split testing 30 different images... That really opened my eyes.

Thanks man! :)

Justin Goff 9th September 2010 10:34 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabioftc (Post 2575534)
Hi Justing I am new on facebook adds and I like to know how your coaching program work , is on videos , by phone one and one ????

Please give me some more info about it .

Thanks
Fabio


Not sure what you mean. I don't have a coaching program, but I do help people who are affiliates of my product to dial in their campaigns...


Quote:

justin.... good post.... solid advice 'from the trenches' how are you tracking all the diff ads on facebook?
I send them through another CB account and make a new TID for each one. Prolly the simplest way there is. I messed around with hypertracker and didnt like it.


Quote:

Hey Justin, great post, thanks for that!

quick question regarding the product: I was under the impression that
FB didn't like weightloss and similar programs.
Did I mis-understand that? (I've had a few campaigns disapproved because
they were promoting weightloss programs, I guess I should've promoted your's, ey?)

Veit
They have no problem with them. You just can not do any rebill type offers. You also have to be very careful about how you setup your ads, as you're not allowed to put a health condition in a negative light. This is why I usually base mine around food/exercises and the ad is more about "these foods make people fat". You can't just come out and tell someone they need to lose weight, Facebook doesnt like that...

Quote:

What a great success in Facebook. But for me, they didn't approve my ads. Can you share some tips to make a suitable landing page?
Honestly I would just email Facebook. The support is pretty helpful. its affiliates@facebook.com Ive had ads rejected for the weirdest reasons, and then I just fix that little problem and everything is ok

Recession_Proof 9th September 2010 10:35 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Wow, thanks Justin. I always put Facebook ads on the back burner, figuring they are too hard etc. But I have a $50 dollars credit from godaddy, that I am about to go and use. Thanks for the info.

+1 for putting this up for us to see and not in an ebook. May the Karma Kings shine down on you.

dorothea 10th September 2010 09:01 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Thanks Justin, very generous of you to share such good stuff!!

skoh 10th September 2010 09:25 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
subscribed.

Andy Money 10th September 2010 03:29 PM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Justin

Are you using anything like Tracking 202 to track conversions or are you just eyeballing everything?

Simon Ashari 10th September 2010 03:51 PM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Posts like this are why I am on the WF.

I am wondering, is there anything different with the landing page as opposed to say google adwords?

cheers again

-Simon

bertuseng 10th September 2010 04:08 PM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
It is very good advice. Thanks for the input. It is nice to see people giving us useful advice on the forum.

VyctorB_10 11th September 2010 04:47 PM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
This is something I'm trying right now, I will get back to this on my full progress report in a bit, thanks Just!




Vyctor~:)

Justin Goff 12th September 2010 06:50 PM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Maule (Post 2583513)
Justin

Are you using anything like Tracking 202 to track conversions or are you just eyeballing everything?

I just use another Clickbank account and make a new TID for each ad...

london web design 13th September 2010 03:50 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Thank you for the great info about Facebook marketing here!

helper 13th September 2010 05:11 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
After the successful launch of one of my product, FACEBOOK GOLD DIGGER, I always like to read and promote testimonies like this so that others can believe that making money on facebook is real.
Thanks for sharing this post.

FredJones 13th September 2010 07:33 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Congratulations, brilliant job done there, and thanks for sharing the details.

mhaynes718 14th September 2010 08:23 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin Goff (Post 2573030)
Yep - I would start with free traffic sources and build up some capital (this is what I did. I made like $6k, then started to spend that on paid traffic)

If you just play around with $100 at a time, you're pretty much wasting your money. Because once you get it dialed in, you won't have anything left to spend!


I am going to promote your product, in your affiliate help.. you say that $20 a day on fb is ok. Is this not the case? I have about $250 to throw at FB, can you help me in terms of showing me where the pitfalls are? This is going to be my first attempt at FB (which is totally different to the content network from what I gather).


Should I just email you?

blackjack 1st December 2010 04:39 AM

Re: How I make $300+ each day with Facebook...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin Goff (Post 2568920)
So our product is a fat loss product, and one of the things many of our readers are interested in is "Gardening" - it fits one of our demographics of 40-65 year old women really well.

Hi Justin

Great insight into FB ads. However I don't understand your link between product and readers interest.

Product is fat loss product but you are targeting people with gardening interest.

Thanks


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