i decided to stop uploading articles to EZA

[Shlomi Khutoretsky]

I will stop using them for sure, they are way beyond the bounds of reason, they do not accept any of my articles anymore. it is normal to write in your way, not every thing needs to be perfect. i will let the people who have correct spelling (American or British English) and grammar to post to EZA

all the other sites, even the ones with editors, do not do what they do with their restrictions. i just can't do it any more.

i am really annoyed by their restrictions and i can't live by their sadistic rules, i see it almost as racism - only English and American permitted to write.

i am disappointed!

[Hamida Harland]

I don't think it's beyond the bounds of reason that an English language article directory would only accept articles written in good English. If they're to keep the directory at a reasonably high standard then they have to reject poorly written articles - I for one don't like reading articles with incorrect grammar, spelling etc (maybe that's just me though).

I can write and speak French but I wouldn't expect my articles to be accepted into a French article directory - they just wouldn't be good enough. It's nothing to do with racism.

[Maria Gudelis]

they have stricter rules as it is one of the 800 pound gorillas of authority sites...that is why google treats the backlink higher than from other article sites....and you get great backlink juice to help your PR and SEO rankings in the long term so maybe outsource your articles to reduce the frustration.

[Shlomi Khutoretsky]

Originally Posted by Hamida Pall

I don't think it's beyond the bounds of reason that an English language article directory would only accept articles written in good English. If they're to keep the directory at a reasonably high standard then they have to reject poorly written articles - I for one don't like reading articles with incorrect grammar, spelling etc (maybe that's just me though).

I can write and speak French but I wouldn't expect my articles to be accepted into a French article directory - they just wouldn't be good enough. It's nothing to do with racism.

so tell me please why do other directories do accept the same articles ?
and these are good directories. you are right, there is nothing to do with racism, but i am still trying, isn't it count ? i do fix my errors. they are too strict.

[Steven Carl Kelly]

Never used them, never liked them. My articles are all over the other directories, but I've never placed a single one with EZA.

[Shlomi Khutoretsky]

Originally Posted by miaroman

they have stricter rules as it is one of the 800 pound gorillas of authority sites...that is why google treats the backlink higher than from other article sites....and you get great backlink juice to help your PR and SEO rankings in the long term so maybe outsource your articles to reduce the frustration.

they do not accept even my outsourced articles

[sannyman]

You can, at any time, read the Editorial Guidelines here: Editorial Guidelines For Submitting Quality Articles To EzineArticles.com
Most probable, you missed to comply to the e.) point:

MUST HAVE proper English, spelling, grammar, punctuation, capitalization and sentence structure. While we know there is a variation in what is considered "proper English," we ask that you at least be consistent within your article. Your article must also be proofed and double checked for accuracy. If English is your second language -- we strongly suggest that you have it proofed by someone who has English as their native tongue before submitting your articles to us.

but it worth checking the rest of the points as well.
At last, but not the least, in the Author TOS, they are stating:

There are no guarantees made that your article(s) will be published.

[Steven Wagenheim]

(biting tongue) Shlome, you have been doing nothing but complaining since
the day you got here. Everything is either too hard, or it's somebody else's
fault or why should you have to do this or that?

I know I am going to get blasted for this, but as positive as I am trying to be
these days, you have 2 choices.

1. You can get the education you need, learn to adapt and play by the rules
that the sites lay down.

2. Do something else with your life.

I've been down this road with the members here before and don't want to
go down it again (my statement that not everybody is cut out for this) but
an attitude change on your part IS going to be needed IF you expect any
success at all.

I looked over your sites when you asked me to. I gave you constructive
feedback on them.

Honestly, you have so many things that need massive amounts of
improvement. If you can't do these things on your own then hire
professionals who can. If you can't afford to hire them, barter. Offer your
services. Maybe somebody needs an VA to answer emails or send out
thank yous or whatever.

I'm telling you this for your own good. I don't want to see you waste
months or maybe even years of your life doing something that isn't going
to bring you a return on your time invested because you either don't
have the skills or don't want to adapt to circumstances around you.

You can take my advice to heart or you can ignore it. That's entirely up
to you. But I am speaking from experience. For 5 months I was determined
to do things MY way when I first started this journey. It made me all of
$28. My way WASN'T WORKING.

So you can learn from my mistakes or you can keep making the ones
you're making.

And for those of you wondering where this post is coming from given
the OPs thread, it is coming from a long history of working with this person
and trying to give him the benefit of my knowledge. It is NOT coming out
of thin air.

Anyway, that's my advice. I'm sure you'll do the right thing.

[Emailrevealer]

Maybe it's just me but in the past month EZA is accepting everything I write and they're going live in just a couple of days.

I don't believe my writing has improved.

[cloudchaser22]

I think writing articles in real life for real companies would be A LOT more stricter. You would also need more qualifications, compared to an online article directory like Ezine Articles.

Just my 2 cents.

[Nick Brighton]

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

(biting tongue) Shlome, you have been doing nothing but complaining since
the day you got here. Everything is either too hard, or it's somebody else's
fault or why should you have to do this or that?

I know I am going to get blasted for this, but as positive as I am trying to be
these days, you have 2 choices.

1. You can get the education you need, learn to adapt and play by the rules
that the sites lay down.

2. Do something else with your life.

I've been down this road with the members here before and don't want to
go down it again (my statement that not everybody is cut out for this) but
an attitude change on your part IS going to be needed IF you expect any
success at all.

I looked over your sites when you asked me to. I gave you constructive
feedback on them.

Honestly, you have so many things that need massive amounts of
improvement. If you can't do these things on your own then hire
professionals who can. If you can't afford to hire them, barter. Offer your
services. Maybe somebody needs an VA to answer emails or send out
thank yous or whatever.

I'm telling you this for your own good. I don't want to see you waste
months or maybe even years of your life doing something that isn't going
to bring you a return on your time invested because you either don't
have the skills or don't want to adapt to circumstances around you.

You can take my advice to heart or you can ignore it. That's entirely up
to you. But I am speaking from experience. For 5 months I was determined
to do things MY way when I first started this journey. It made me all of
$28. My way WASN'T WORKING.

So you can learn from my mistakes or you can keep making the ones
you're making.

And for those of you wondering where this post is coming from given
the OPs thread, it is coming from a long history of working with this person
and trying to give him the benefit of my knowledge. It is NOT coming out
of thin air.

Anyway, that's my advice. I'm sure you'll do the right thing.

Precisely, and to add to that:

If you can't get an article directory to accept your articles, what chance do you have of making a sale?

It's all about communication.

This scenario of complaining about other companies reminds me of when I tried to get into nightclubs in town with my trainers on...

...no matter how hard I tried, I always got told to "come back with shoes on, that's our dress code and we reserve the right..."

Y'know what? After seeing all those hot single ladies in there with no-one to dance with, I grabbed a taxi and got my dancin shoes on pretty damn quick ;-)

[Shlomi Khutoretsky]

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

(biting tongue) Shlome, you have been doing nothing but complaining since
the day you got here. Everything is either too hard, or it's somebody else's
fault or why should you have to do this or that?

I know I am going to get blasted for this, but as positive as I am trying to be
these days, you have 2 choices.

1. You can get the education you need, learn to adapt and play by the rules
that the sites lay down.

2. Do something else with your life.

I've been down this road with the members here before and don't want to
go down it again (my statement that not everybody is cut out for this) but
an attitude change on your part IS going to be needed IF you expect any
success at all.

I looked over your sites when you asked me to. I gave you constructive
feedback on them.

Honestly, you have so many things that need massive amounts of
improvement. If you can't do these things on your own then hire
professionals who can. If you can't afford to hire them, barter. Offer your
services. Maybe somebody needs an VA to answer emails or send out
thank yous or whatever.

I'm telling you this for your own good. I don't want to see you waste
months or maybe even years of your life doing something that isn't going
to bring you a return on your time invested because you either don't
have the skills or don't want to adapt to circumstances around you.

You can take my advice to heart or you can ignore it. That's entirely up
to you. But I am speaking from experience. For 5 months I was determined
to do things MY way when I first started this journey. It made me all of
$28. My way WASN'T WORKING.

So you can learn from my mistakes or you can keep making the ones
you're making.

And for those of you wondering where this post is coming from given
the OPs thread, it is coming from a long history of working with this person
and trying to give him the benefit of my knowledge. It is NOT coming out
of thin air.

Anyway, that's my advice. I'm sure you'll do the right thing.

Steven,

i do learn a lot, and i do try to improve myself in any way i can.
yes, things are not easy in the marketing world, and because i am not a native English speaker i am sure it's even harder to me then most people that have been talking and writing English for all their life. i am not trying to blame everyone for my own problems, but i am saying that EZA are too strict.

[Darth Executor]

Originally Posted by articlerelated

I will stop using them for sure, they are way beyond the bounds of reason, they do not accept any of my articles anymore. it is normal to write in your way, not every thing needs to be perfect. i will let the people who have correct spelling (American or British English) and grammar to post to EZA

all the other sites, even the ones with editors, do not do what they do with their restrictions. i just can't do it any more.

i am really annoyed by their restrictions and i can't live by their sadistic rules, i see it almost as racism - only English and American permitted to write.

i am disappointed!

I feel no sympathy for you, for a couple of reasons:

1. I'm sick of victimhood and race baiting. Screaming "racism" because your articles get rejected due to poor English is utterly asinine. EZA is trying to boost the quality of their articles. This helps everyone except those who don't write quality articles, and good English is a must if you want to write good articles (unless you're writing for the rap community or something). Articles are supposed to be at a higher level than, say, forum posts where nobody really cares if you make a spelling or grammar error there.
2. English isn't my first language either and I pride myself in knowing it better than the overwhelming majority of its native speakers. Stop using your ESL as an excuse. Life will always throw more obstacles in front of some people than it does in front of others. You can either work hard and succeed in spite of it or you can sit down, demand others give you special treatment because you're disadvantaged and get laughed into mediocrity (at best).

If your English isn't that great, don't blame EZA for not lowering their standards. Improve it. Language is a crucial skill in marketing anyway, even if you don't write copy or articles so it'll only benefit you in the long run.

[cloudchaser22]

Originally Posted by Nick Brighton

Precisely, and to add to that:

If you can't get an article directory to accept your articles, what chance do you have of making a sale?

It's all about communication.

This scenario of complaining about other companies reminds me of when I tried to get into nightclubs in town with my trainers on...

...no matter how hard I tried, I always got told to "come back with shoes on, that's our dress code and we reserve the right..."

Y'know what? After seeing all those hot single ladies in there with no-one to dance with, I grabbed a taxi and got my dancin shoes on pretty damn quick ;-)

Lol.

My friend and I went into a nightclub entrance with tight jeans. They said that they wouldn't allow him to go in because they considered my friend's jeans were too baggy. We ended up having to follow their guidelines and went back to change. But I got to say, the night was worth it.

[JayXtreme]

If you can't write coherent english for the article directory..

Then do yourself a favour..

Publish your articles on a squidoo lense whilst you get practice and improve...then go out and get a weekend job to fund paid advertising <- harsh?.. maybe, but honest nonetheless

Article marketing isn't for everyone....

Peace

Jay

[Paul Coleman]

Originally Posted by articlerelated

they do not accept even my outsourced articles

Can you show us one of the outsourced articles? Just to check the quality.

I've had no trouble at all with EZA. And the other directories have such low standards that it's almost embarrassing.

[rendell]

I think EZA is still the authority in the article submission biz.

[lvcjmac]

My articles have been getting through rather easily over the past month.

I think that they are correct to insist that the articles are written in proper English, without misspellings and poor grammar. There's a reason why they are the 800 pound gorilla, they pay pretty good attention to detail.

[rosetrees]

Have you considered publishing sites in your native language for customers in your own country? Not such a large market, but probably not so much competition either and no language barrier.

[terryrayburn]

Don't be discouraged. I wish I could write and speak Hebrew as well as you do English!

[ragnartm]

I'm Norwegian and all my articles have been published (except when I messed up and got too many self serving links in there). But maybe that's because I developed an interest in English at a young age and have read a couple of dozen books in English as well as the fact that I've been writing a blog in English for about 3 years.

Anyway, if you make the effort I have no doubt that your articles will get published, however if you don't want to put the extra effort into it that's understandable. Either way I wish you success with your IM business.

Good luck,

[Allen Graves]

Wy don't you open up a Hebrew-speaking article directory or authority site? Then you can submit your articles there, get some other submittors and totally dominate that market.

[Paul M]

To be honest I think the only real problem you are having is with your own mindset.

I can kind of relate to your problems..... I am dyslexic and went through my whole life
not being able to read or write but that didn't stop me.

I did what every teacher failed to do, an that was teaching myself to read and write
from the age of 16. Now 3 years later am doing fairly well even though I do still make
many punctuation and spelling mistake. I have always had my articles accepted by EZA
and many other article directories because of my own persistent efforts.

What am really getting at is the fact that your creating obstacles and giving up before
you've even got going. It take time, persistence and practice.

Everyone here struggled at some point but they found away around there problems and
adapted. There are many other ways to promote your site without writing articles, you
just have to find what's best for you until you have the writing skills you need.

Have you tried writing articles in open office? It corrects many mistakes and spelling
errors.

P.S. I had to Google dyslexic to find the right spelling lol

-paul

[travlinguy]

Let's say they did accept sub-standard articles. Who would bother reading them? Almost no one. So they end up doing you little good. And the same goes for marketers who think they're getting a bargain when they pay $3 for an article - most are simply junk.

For my money EZA isn't strict enough. When researching a topic for an article or other piece I might be doing I inevitably end up at EZA. And it's amazing how much complete crap is posted there - even with their 'racist' submission policies. Can you say, click away in a heartbeat? Good luck to you.

[melanied]

I was actually just coming over here to ask if anyone else was getting faster and more reasonable approvals at Ezine articles again, or if it was only me.

I love Ezine Articles again. Haha. I just quoted their own coffee mug.

Originally Posted by Emailrevealer

Maybe it's just me but in the past month EZA is accepting everything I write and they're going live in just a couple of days.

I don't believe my writing has improved.

[Allen Graves]

They recently completed training of a bunch of new editors. They are all caught up and should remain that way...at least for now.

[NoBoss]

Couple posts here mention EZA promptly
approving their articles just recently.

Consider this also. Right now Chris will award
you Platinum for ten (10) articles.

http://twitter.com/EzineArticles/

If your first 10 articles matched very closely our posted
editorial guidelines and your content is high quality original,
expect Platinum. 6:47 AM Nov 3rd from web

...Doug

[lklein]

One thing I don't like is I have to make my article sound unatural once in a while so they won't say my keyword density is too high. Not sure why that happens ever-so-often.

I have to think of other words to use instead of the proper one.

[Steven Wagenheim]

Originally Posted by lklein

One thing I don't like is I have to make my article sound unatural once in a while so they won't say my keyword density is too high. Not sure why that happens ever-so-often.

I have to think of other words to use instead of the proper one.

If you'd write for people instead of search engines, you wouldn't have
this problem.

[Allen Graves]

If you are writing tutorial-type articles, it is EXTREMELY hard not to repeat certain terms or phrases. At least, the way I write that is the case.

But I think their editors are relatively smart people who will hopefully realize this as time goes by.

AL

[Deric Yin]

Yes, my articles get published in less than a day now. Time to crank out more..

[lklein]

Steve I knew someone would say that. LOL

I do write for people. I don't even think about the SE as I write. That's why its so frustrating.

BTW who said I wrote for search engines. Who's been talking about me?

[tanya7zhou]

If you do it right, writing communicating with your audience EZA will love you. Many people are getting their articles accepted everyday. Maybe change the people you outsource your services to and try those who have been producing great results.

Maybe you need to change your attitude a bit. I don't mean to be rude here though. Don't see yourself as if it won't happen for you! Write your articles with the intention of educating .......You will then reap what you sow

[Christie Love]

I understand that EZA rules can become frustrating. I have went through it myself. These days, I have taken on Steven's approach. I write for others. It's much less frustrating and I am guaranteed to make instant profits. Marketing myself is much easier than marketing Clickbank products.

I have two suggestions...

1. Submit to other article directories such as Go Articles, Article Directory, Buzzle, etc.

2. Start writing for others. Writing provides great practice to improve your writing skills.

[ss442]

"I am a noobie" and I have had a couple articles rejected but I viewed them as gentle reminders-constructive criticism to get it right".

I don't fault EZA for trying to maintain a certain construct of standards. My advice to is "keep trying and don't give up". Continue to improve.

I still am very frustrated at the time it takes to get around this internet thing but I will say this, your brothers and sisters in this forum are here to help you.

God Speed

[Diana Lane]

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

Wy don't you open up a Hebrew-speaking article directory or authority site? Then you can submit your articles there, get some other submittors and totally dominate that market.

That was exactly my thought. Where someone (you) is frustrated enough to voice an opinion, there are usually others with the same frustrations who are saying nothing. Then there are all those who'd never dream of submitting articles to EZA because they don't even speak English as well as you do (which is a sight better than I can speak anything else). Yet they've all got expertise or experience which is every bit as valuable as that of the English speakers on EZA. Perhaps even more valuable, due to the fact that there's nowhere for all the non-English speaking article readers in your country to find it.

Your ability to speak your language is a natural talent that you should be embracing in your quest to make money, instead of seeing it as something that holds you back. The demand for info-products and articles by readers must be great if writers can find so few places to publish them that they feel compelled to publish in English instead, even if their command of the language isn't perfect. Sure, there are lots more English-speaking readers, but they have lots more choices too.

There's at least one free article directory script doing the rounds (which I tried and didn't like, but can't remember why), and probably more than one relatively low cost alternative which is a fair bit better.

Where there's an obstacle there's often an opportunity. That's not a mountain in front of you, it's a market. If it's not one you're willing to corner, start creating a series of info-products in which you teach us your language so that the rest of us can have a go

Don't be discouraged, Shlome. You do have options.

[jdsonline]

I've been having some trouble with EZA lately, as well. It seems like they are cracking down on silly stuff. I had one great article rejected because it referred to buying links which CAN be a black-hat tactic. Very silly if you ask me!

[Marc Marseille]

Ok here is a suggestion...Write your article in your original language and then use Google translate to translate it to english. Make a few minor changes and maybe that might work.

[Bev Clement]

If you think EZA are hard, then try getting your work published by a real publishing house, and watch the number of reject slips you'll receive.

Why should EZA or anyone else have to lower their standards because you refuse to raise your standards.

Don't like EZA then stop using them, plain and simple. To say they are racist is the most stupid comment. EZA have their own rules, and it is their website and they are allowed to make those rules and enforce them.

So if we go to your site and start telling you how to run it what do you think.

Let me use Stephen and Allen as an example here.

I go to you site and tell you what I want changed and how to change it.
Stephen goes to your site and tells you what he wants changed, but if you do that then I won't like it because I want something different.
Allen goes and he hates both our suggestions, and tells you that you must follow his advice.

See the problem 3 different people who will want 3 different things, so how as a webmaster do you make the changes to suit us all. You don't you decide the site and stick to it.

[teenmoney]

EZA is great. It really isnt that hard to get into. You just need to make your articles make sense. As long as they are decently grammatically sound you should be ok..

[Janet McLean]

I don't believe they are too strict, but they do have high standards. And I don't think anything is wrong with that.
While you are learning the english language, why don't you try to find someone who likes writing articles and is good at it, that can look over your work (for a price) make the corrections and then you submit it.

[Charann Miller]

Just keep going with it.

I've had my fair share of ezine article rejections but I kept re-editing and
re-submitting my problem articles until I got to the point where I didn't have as many rejections anymore. Took time, but I got there.

It used to take them 5-7 days to approve my articles now they approve them in less than 24 hours. So if I can do it, anyone can. Trust me.

Persistence is the key, keep going, keep learning and keep improving.

Best of luck.

[Black Hat Cat]

i do learn a lot, and i do try to improve myself in any way i can.

If you can't get the writing down, maybe you could hire a proofreader to edit your articles. Not sure how much someone would charge, but I can't imagine it would be too much for a 300-500 word article. If you have the money to spare, this might be your best option.

[xlfutur1]

No sympathy here either. A simple solution is to just have someone who is fluent in English read them over before you submit them. Probably just a few funky things that are making them get rejected. Anyone who knows English well can correct your mistakes a couple of minutes I would imagine. We all go through our own frustrations with internet marketing, but just figure out a different way. No big deal.

[alexei_aus]

i dont think its such a big deal.

you actually got articles disapproved?

[valerieSONORA]

EZA sadistic and racist?? I would call that an exaggeration.

[futurebells]

Improve your Grammar and Spelling before blaming someone...

[Allen Graves]

That was a great example Bev.

3 different article marketers who have three totally different styles of doing it.

I can only imagine how many different types of article marketers Mr. K-night has to deal with!

AL

[lklein]

Well because there are some out there that do delibertly use too many keywords thinking that will help ther SE rankings they hurt the rest of us. I guess the article directories have to be stricker with all of us.

I hardly ever get declined, but once in a while I do and it's just frustrating because I know the article is fine.

That's just the way it is. So I re-write it even if it loses some of it's meaning. If I feel it will lose too much meaning and be confusing, then I will just post it on my blog instead so that it makes sense.

Just the things you have to do when people abuse.

[JohnMcCabe]

Here's an off-the-wall suggestion if you'd like to improve your articles in English...

Read a variety of fiction - in English.

An ESL teacher I once met required her students to complete a reading list she provided. It included a wide variety of genres, from classic horror to westerns to Danielle Steele and Harold Robbins. The list included romance, adventure, mysteries, you name it.

The course lasted the length of a two-year, post-high school vocational training program. She showed me samples of her students' writing at various points in the course. The difference was quite dramatic, even in a short time.

Effective fiction does a good job of communicating both facts and feelings with just words.

So my suggestion is to grab a novel, in English, in a genre you like. Find a quiet place and start each day reading for 30-60 minutes. I think you'll be surprised at how quickly you start getting more articles accepted.

Good luck to you...