The Web Is Dead...Long Live The Internet Says Wired Magazine.

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I jus read an article from wired magazine saying it's the end of the web.

you can read it here .
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  • Profile picture of the author 04real
    Originally Posted by Thomas Michal View Post

    I jus read an article from wired magazine saying it's the end of the web.

    you can read it here .
    Nice article. I saw this WIRED issue at the airport. It was interesting but I was too cheap to buy a copy... hahaha... thanks for the link.

    Anyway, in other news...


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  • Profile picture of the author adionline
    What a silly article, web isn't dead or even close to dying, I can even argue that it's thriving... I mean come on, you need the web to find the so-called apps the article refers to.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    I don't have time to read the whole article but from what I read this article seems to be suggesting that people will eventually move away from the PC and start using web on other devices like iphone etc.

    So that doesn't means the web is actually dead but wired is predicting the death of Personal Computers.

    EDIT: I haven't read the whole article so if I missed something please don't flame me for that. I have to much work to get done so I can't read the whole thing.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by Mohammad Afaq View Post

      I don't have time to read the whole article but from what I read this article seems to be suggesting that people will eventually move away from the PC and start using web on other devices like iphone etc.

      So that doesn't means the web is actually dead but wired is predicting the death of Personal Computers.

      EDIT: I haven't read the whole article so if I missed something please don't flame me for that. I have to much work to get done so I can't read the whole thing.
      I also scanned the article...

      They are partly right, but I am not going to call the web "dead"...

      More apps are pulling us away from our browsers... This is a good thing...

      The major media corporations and telephone companies want to push the web to a premium model for everyone... They have been trying to get the US Congress to move in that direction for a number of years...

      The phone companies would also like to turn the Internet into a toll road, where they are the government-approved toll booth operators...

      The direction things have been going sync up with what the major corporations have wanted to happen online for a number of years...

      And they are seeing minor victories, not through legal mechanisms, but through technological innovations...

      Many other corporations have even predicted the end of personal computers... Companies like Apple, Microsoft, Google and Amazon are positioning themselves to replace personal computers with Cloud Computing...

      As long as we the consumers allow these changes to take place, they will take place...

      The free and open web will likely continue, but I honestly don't think it will truly look like it does right now, say 20 years from now...
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  • Profile picture of the author Brad Gosse
    Only half way through it (article is split in 2) so my judgement is still reserved
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    • Profile picture of the author Vogin
      I don't use even the half of the so called apps and I doubt a lot of people outside US do, so... no, not really.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Michal
    The are saying the web is dead not the net (they make that divide). They predict people won't want to browse anymore and will only want apps to give them the information they need and want so no more searching a bunch of "junk" as the try to put it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gail_Curran
      Originally Posted by Thomas Michal View Post

      The are saying the web is dead not the net (they make that divide). They predict people won't want to browse anymore and will only want apps to give them the information they need and want so no more searching a bunch of "junk" as the try to put it.
      This makes no sense to me. Often I don't know what I need until I've been browsing awhile. How can someone always know exactly what they need if they don't know the entire sum of knowledge that's out there? Some of the most interesting and useful information on the web is discovered by chance.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Michal
    What I am trying to understand is if everything goes all apps how will companies like facebook make money? There are no ads in the app and as far as I know... that is there only real source of income. Unless they start selling all of their users info to other companies.
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    • Profile picture of the author drmani
      I'm reading 2 books.

      One is Ray Kurzweil's "The Singularity is Near". The other is
      a title by Tomi Ahonen about mobile as mass media.

      This WIRED article reinforces what the two books explain in
      great detail... that the future will be RADICALLY different
      from the recent (or remote) past.

      On the whole, I preferred Michael Wolff's commentary to Chris',
      though this part from Anderson stood out:

      Blame human nature. As much as we intellectually appreciate openness, at the end of the day we favor the easiest path. We'll pay for convenience and reliability, which is why iTunes can sell songs for 99 cents despite the fact that they are out there, somewhere, in some form, for free. When you are young, you have more time than money, and LimeWire is worth the hassle. As you get older, you have more money than time. The iTunes toll is a small price to pay for the simplicity of just getting what you want. The more Facebook becomes part of your life, the more locked in you become. Artificial scarcity is the natural goal of the profit-seeking.
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  • Profile picture of the author davemiz
    not sure if its 'dead' per say... but you guys do know the FCC is trying to do some type of regulation to the internet.

    scary stuff.
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    • Profile picture of the author FredJones
      As of now the web cannot die. The Internet will not die anyway and that's what the article claims too. The web may become more and more portal-driven such as all the Facebooks and Youtubes and people may start browsing within Facebook and Youtube - the closed web - rather than the open web so to speak off and thus segregate the web into a number of different planets, but the core notion of web within closed and open worlds will continue to exist for a long enough number of years is my gutfeel.
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  • Profile picture of the author toddsub
    These headline grabbing articles are always so extreme
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  • Profile picture of the author warriorkay
    I can't be sure about "dead" or not, but the fact
    is that "some" kind of change is coming... so
    it won't hurt any of us to prepare, will it?

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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Ingham
    It most certainly is changing. It is leveling the playing field with the rest of the world, and things like twitter and facebook are allowing faster transfer of information in places where fast internet is not available on anything but a cell phone.

    As for becoming all apps, I don't see that completely, but that core will be smaller groups of people wanting to be part of a small community. Like this place. It will be hard to be an app for how quick this place moves. So a browser is still necessary.

    As for how to make money off Facebook without ads? They will either add advertising, or we will all have to switch to fan groups, and things like that. There is always money to be made off things like this, if there are people looking for something, someone will sell them that.

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  • Profile picture of the author BrittyBritt
    Its an interesting article about the world apps and how they're gaining momentum and popularity. However, to me it it doesn't mean that the internet is dying, but more like the internet is being divided.

    On one side, you will always have people that will want to search or browse for something and on the other, you have people that never wanted to really browse in the first place, all they ever wanted to was to "push" a button and check their email, facebook, etc.

    Could this mean that the amount of people browsing vs. using apps is getting smaller? According to them (WIRED), the answer is yes. But I don't think that will result in the "extinction" of the internet (at least not for a very long time).

    Another point that was mentioned (in the part 2 side) stated that one of the reasons that internet is "dying" is because a lot of companies could never figure out how to quite market and capitlalize on the internet in the first place.

    But these weren't the most important points that stuck out to me from the article. The three most important things that I noticed were:
    • There could be a future monopoly or rather an oligopoly in the near future when it comes to the world of apps (if it hasn't already taken place).
    • One of the main reasons it seems that the internet is "dying" is due to lack of quality. Whereas the apps succeed in providing quality content and services to its customers/users. Here's a quote about that from the article:
    "Web audiences have grown ever larger even as the quality of those audiences has shriveled, leading advertisers to pay less and less to reach them. That, in turn, has meant the rise of junk-shop content providers — like Demand Media — which have determined that the only way to make money online is to spend even less on content than advertisers are willing to pay to advertise against it. This further cheapens online content, makes visitors even less valuable, and continues to diminish the credibility of the medium."
    • And last, it defintely means that you should put some of your "eggs" into the mobile marketing basket.
    While I don't think the internet is dying, it is most definitely changing, like everything else in the world. However, I wouldn't spend my time trying to predict what that change will be and when that change will happen.

    The best thing to do is to notice the change, adapt to the change and then profit from it.
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  • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
    Originally Posted by lacraiger View Post

    internet marketers will adapt to any change that happens. its all part of the cycle.
    Actually, it is the change itself that will keep the web alive. Apps and portals will come and go, but as long as things are changing, which they always will, the web will be the place where these new apps and portals will be found.

    So, the web may reduce in size and/or scope, but there will always be a place for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Michal
    Hey everyone if you are looking to break into the app era there is a website called freeiPhoneappmaker (dot) com that will let you build and launch an iphone app free.

    (the only catch is they put an ad on your app to monitize as their payment)

    but for me thats fine because I just use a link to redirect people to my mobile optin page to get the email.
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  • Profile picture of the author ~kev~
    I dont who the author of that article is, but does he have the slightest idea what he is talking about?

    The "web" - is the interlinking of sites. Think spider web, and each time a line of the web crosses - that is a site or a router. The lines of the web are fiber optic backbones. The "web" is a term that describes how the internet is laid out, with routers, switches and backbone lines connecting the sites. To get from one side of the web to the other, a packet has to go from one ISP router to another, moving through the lines.

    Why does he need 3 apps to view 3 websites? Is the author getting websites and applications confused?

    During breakfast you browse Facebook, Twitter, and The New York Times — three more apps.
    I dont know about you, but I use 1 app (application) to view all of those sites.

    It appears to me that the author has the basic meaning of applications, the web, and the internet as a whole confused.
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  • Profile picture of the author jazardezign
    I do not think so. In my point of view, "Web" will never die. he he
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    The web isn't dead, not yet. But as Dave Miz and Dr. Mani have pointed out there is definitely change in the horizon. Though most experts don't agree on what that is. Consumer behavior is changing too. I thought I texted a lot at 1,100 texts a month until I found out that the average teenager sends out 3,000 texts a month and spends more time using the internet than watching TV.

    Whats next, a real doll with artificial intelligence? (Hey, it's late at night and the martinis are flowing.....).

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  • Profile picture of the author TristanPerry
    Ugh, not the best of articles. Seemed like their marketing guys said "Okay, we're going with a sensationalist headline. Write away" and so it began?

    As others have pointed out, it's fairly inaccurate.

    For example, some of its flaws include:

    1) The suggestion that the "web" is text-based content (not true)
    2) Suggesting that e-mail is pretty much dead, and that video and P2P are used more than e-mail. This is a silly claim.
    3) Suggesting that FTP is pretty much dead, and that video and P2P are used more than FTP. This is a silly claim.
    4) Saying that DNS died 15 years ago. Again, not true.

    There's more, although the short of it is that the article is senstionalist and inaccurate. And the "web" is not text. Not sure where the writer got that idea from.
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  • I dunno, but I'd say that part of the charm of the net is precisely the "surprise" factor: randomly browsing about to stumble upon a fantastic site by chance. If we only stick to our favorite apps, we wouldnt discover new stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author ZaraK
    Digging through random junk to find the pearl is half the fun, for me. It's like thrift store shopping...you gotta go through a bunch of crap from Walmart before you find that Armani or Gucci.

    Thomas Michal, I was very excited about that Iphone appmaker share until I tried to make one just for fun and was greeted with this on every type of app I tried to put together:

    "We're currently in the process of upgrading our builder technology and are not accepting new application submissions. Please bookmark and come back later."

    So who knows when it will actually be available. Bummer. I have app ideas but no technical background to build them and no real desire to learn, either. I suppose I could outsource them. I did want to play with that shiny new toy, though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fabian Tan
    I like Chris Anderson's stuff but will have to
    disagree with what he is saying here.

    Mobile web and applications look like they
    are replacing desktops and laptops, because more
    people are using them. But that doesn't tell the
    whole story.

    When you are at home, which device are you most
    likely to use to surf the Internet? If you have a
    laptop and a mobile device, which would you use?
    Most likely, you would use the laptop or a
    desktop.

    At work, which device do you use to get some real,
    productive work done? Again, it's the desktop, not
    the mobile device.

    Now, when people are on the train, waiting for a
    bus, heading out to lunch, which device will they
    use? The mobile phone. Because it's convenient.
    Where people used to just listen to mp3 music when
    on the move, these days they are fidgeting with
    mobile phones, playing games, replying to email
    etc. This means more bandwidth is being used, it
    means people's attention are more fixated to
    devices that use the Internet, but it doesn't mean
    the web is dying. At home and at work, people
    still use the web.

    Also, the demise of the desktop is widely
    exagerrated. Think about this...when you buy a
    desktop, you expect to use it for 3-5 years,
    sometimes even 10 years. When you buy a mobile
    device, you may expect to replace it within a year
    or two. That's why it looks like the
    desktop is on the decline. It is more to do with
    the fact that people are trying to 'keep up with
    the joneses' by buying the newest mobile phone
    every time.

    I prefer to think of mobile devices and apps as
    complements, rather than replacements, for the
    web.

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  • Profile picture of the author duia
    Don't get worried about that article. It is obvious that the Web is still live and there are more and more people are enjoying the convenience of the Internet.
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  • Profile picture of the author RyanRobinson
    During breakfast you browse Facebook, Twitter, and The New York Times -- three more apps.
    I use one App - My web browser.

    I think this article is to just grab people's attention. Overrated article and I hope people take it with a pinch of salt.

    They will probably call the usage of Apps "Web 3.0" and hype it up.

    *face palm*
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  • Profile picture of the author conversionspro
    I think you have to understand that this article is written for Wired readers. They'll be the people who own iPads/Phones, buy lots of apps and are relatively 'early adopters' to new technology.

    To them, the internet as it was a few years ago is undoubtably less important. To others, though (those who don't splash $$$ on all the latest gadgets), it's still very much important.

    Different viewpoints, depending on the person you are.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dr Livingston
    It's definitely changing, but far from dead. Iphones and mobile devices are a new era certainly, but I don't ever see the end of using the "web" google will make sure of that.
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  • Profile picture of the author jeskola
    Is interesting for sure... but a bit premature.
    The start of the end of the web as we know it perhaps.

    I think the notion of websites and how we use them today, how they look and how we access them - through big boxes on desks with mice and keywords - will seem quite antiquated in 10 years for sure.

    Devices like the Ipad and Iphone are just the start. Once it gets into the living room (TV) everything changes. Of course it already can be but it's not realy taken of yet... but it will.
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