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Frustrated

by kindsvater
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I was reading the Ryan Deiss Publisher Model thread. Very interesting, high level discussion about advanced techniques for operating a certain business model online. Ryan was even kind enough to come in and add his thoughts and insights.

But some had a problem. Not in debating the pros / cons of the model, but in personally attacking others who were posting.

There's a big difference between the two, and one Warrior was briefly banned. Everyone has a bad day. We're all human.

Which leads me to my frustration ....

The thread is now locked. Locked with plenty of wild off-topic posts and graphics that should be embarrassing to the forum.

I know this is a hassle for the moderators, but why not delete a bunch of posts and keep the thread going?

Maybe my frustration is that there seem to be so many newbie threads (how do I find a niche, or why is my email in a spam box), but a 7-figure discussion with a high view count gets prematurely shut-down.

Perhaps, with emotions cooling down, the thread could be unlocked with a PM sent to some participants asking that they voluntarily delete / edit their posts.

I wish I could offer a great solution, something easy for the overworked moderators to implement.
#frustrated
  • Profile picture of the author Lance K
    I agree. It was a good discussion gone bad. And it was a little odd the way it all unraveled, to say the least.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Brian,
      I know this is a hassle for the moderators, but why not delete a bunch of posts and keep the thread going?
      I went in to do that earlier, after reading it, and found the thread deleted. Probably for the best, as that was one of those "toss a coin" situations. The question was, does the value of the few relevant posts in the thread justify the chance that one or more of the people involved in the nasty part of the discussion continuing it after those parts were deleted?

      The answer to that is almost always the same: Only if a moderator is willing to watch the discussion until it dies out naturally.

      There's an additional risk with threads like that. If the nastiness does continue, there's the chance that what was probably just one or more people having a really bad day could become a running antipathy. Those almost always end with someone getting banned for good, and the mods having to play whack-a-mole with their new incarnations. All over a very short-term bit of heat.

      It's easy to judge that risk when you know everyone in the conversation, but not so much when several of the participants are folks with less familiar posting patterns.


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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Lance,
      And it was a little odd the way it all unraveled, to say the least.
      Yep. One of those, "I could read this as sarcasm or humor, but my experience makes it feel like sarcasm." So, the aggressive responses come in, things escalate, and the downward spiral starts.

      Classic pattern.


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      • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
        Good thing for the Google cache.

        My post count would be a lot higher if,

        after getting something off my chest,
        or thinking I needed to protect my reputation,
        or thinking I needed to get in the 'last' word,
        or thinking I needed to win an argument,
        or thinking the 10 minutes spent on a post justify the post,

        I pressed the 'enter' key instead of pausing -- and then pressing the 'delete' key.

        It can be an interesting experience communicating electronically. We write things we would never say to the same person if face to face.
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