The number 1 newbie frustration

[Fittestguy]

My no 1 frustration is how to manage to do all you have to do to be succesfull like: the site, the traffic part, product creation.... Sometimes I want to do everything at the same time to have money more quickly but it doesn't work at all.

[Tom Sheltraw]

There are many ways of saying the same thing but I would say the number 1 frustration comes from being a butterfly and fluttering from one thing to another with no real direction or determination to see something thru.

There is always a "Better" way or a "Faster" way or an "Easier" way.

I've done it! I wrote an article once and it didn't make me rich!

I did a Sig Line and didn't sell a thousand copies with 3 posts.

I created a web site and they DID NOT flock to my site!

Go Figure!

I'm reminded of the story of the Class Clown that went to his High School 10th Class Reunion in a limo and a Tux. He was asked how he made so much money when it was thought that he would be the class failure.

He stated that he found the secret. If you buy something for $2 and sell it for $5, that 3 percent markup will make you a lot of money!

I believe the Internet allows us to all start out even. It's an old saying that those that succeed are those that learn from their mistakes. We all have them!

Just look at your collection of FREE eBooks that are still unread and you'll see what I mean.

Just my 2-cents.

Tom

[Norma Holt]

I think it is the lies that so-called gurus promote. People who are unaware of the tricks to get their money fall for the 'millionaire' status and the triggers that rope them in to hopeless schemes and worthless tools, books etc.

Norma

[Andrei Rotariu]

**From 'Newbie' Perspective**

I would say that rather than info overload, fast talking gurus, and different opportunities from different experts everywhere you look. That the number #1 frustration would be;

Plan/Assistance

Reason i put both down is because assistance can come in the form of a well layed out plan and a plan is certainly assistance, you know stay within these borders type of deal.

I have been reading, writing, and exploring the internet marketing industry for 4 years now. Only until just recently have i devised a plan and tried gravitating towards mentors, trainers and training grounds like this forum for example.

Internet Marketing from my perception is probably the most under rated form of marketing by most so called 'marketing experts' usually within the corporate sector. But is a profession like any other. Race car driver, surgeon, politician, lawyer, mechanic etc...

So you either have to be a natural at it and pick it up straight away or like the rest of us have to teach yourself and learn from your own mistakes and pick the good from the bad.

You cant just go do a 2 year course and Bam! Your making 150k a year. Main reason from my perspective is that most people dont even know what an internet marketer is and that its one of the most fast changing industries we know.

Still to date where i live there is only 1 internet marketing course you can do in Australia. Only 1. That speaks for itself.

Ever since i started i always wondered why there was not just a simple course you could do where you would not only learn the most up to date info on the industry but where you would also receive the latest tools(software etc) and be able to ask the teacher( marketer or ex marketer) questions to your dilemmas whenever you like.

You know like a real mentor, someone to assist you all the way.

But to counter my own argument. I think that the way the industry is structured at the moment, the guys who make it have worked really hard and no one can deny this, so in a sense the fact that there is not much 'structured organized help' and you do in fact make it, well then the pay off is huge. So for this i really admire and respect the guys that are in fact making 50k a month.

Adding to that, i certainly believe it possible to make this kind of money on the internet with no formal qualifications at all, and thats the best and worst part.

[Ben_Curtis]

Wow, I think Cboy has nailed it! Information overload and the distraction it causes are certainly obstacles to getting started, but Cboy mentions several other challenges everyone faces, and I think the most significant one is not seeing results soon enough. And that's caused by lack of focus and lack of patience. It's what leads to sinkin' or swimmin'! And we've all been through it!

[gargoyle]

I Agree-Information overload gets me everytime

[rdmorrow]

Hi,
The number 1 newbie frustration is the learning curve. There is so much to learn before you make a dime.

[Jared Alberghini]

So who else is putting together a 'Number 1 Newbie Frustration' ebook describing the techniques revealed in the post?

- Jared

[DrexV]

For me its been the "This is what you need to do and we're only going to vaguely describe how you actually do it." information that is being sold in these IM programs.

DrexV

[mudmat]

Originally Posted by Easy Cash

What would you say is the number 1 newbie frustration?

The one thing that always trips up most newbies.



Just after 1 - not a list, but hey if you wanna make a list - go for it.

I would say it is;

'information overload - too much information coming from every direction'

Yep, I totally agree with you. It happens to me before.

Too much information that we get lost in the IM scene..

[gcjmarkets]

Addiction to The Warrior Forum (I stop by for a few minutes and end up leaving an hour later)

Seriously I think The biggest problem is anyone can call themselves an expert and somehow somebody sold the idea you could actually build a profitable business without startup capital, and a business plan.

So newbies go looking for the cheapest information they can find and 9/10 times it is worthless

[Lexiranae]

I guess my number one frustration, as a newbie, has already been stated a number of times. I would have to say its the problem of how to get started in whatever you are trying to do. You come across some new idea and it sounds great on paper, then you decide to go for it and its like everhthing is overwhelming. Sometimes its easiest just to sit down and make out a plan of what is the best way to proceed from start to finish. But also if you include some, "In case of 'this' then try 'this." or maybe "When you get to this point don't give up, just keep working at it." It really seems to help a great deal.

[JCWHong]

I think it's a combination of information overload, not having an established step-by-step process down, and not having individual coaching from someone who has been successful with internet marketing.

[mjbmedia]

Just to add a new angle to this thread

the problem for people trying to supply solutions is that all newbies have differing levels of knowledge and abilities in all the areas of IM.
So some advice can be technically heavy but not everyone needs all that, others can be strategy heavy and very little tecchy stuff leaving many people chomping at the bit to take action but stuck cos of the lack of their technical knowhow etc etc

So its really tough to get every single possible weakness covered especially when newbies mainly dont have huge amounts of cash to spend so the prices of the training normally have to be set relatively low, yet the newbies expect all their individual unique questions to be fully answered.

[Audrey Harvey]

I'm probably technically not a real newbie, I've been here a while and have made some pocket money, but my personal biggest frustration that drives me insane is I have absolutely no idea how to make and upload a download page. I've googled for instructions, and tried lots of things but it just doesn't seem to want to happen for me.

If someone can direct me to simple and straightforward instructions on how to create a download page and where to upload to my hosting, I'd be eternally grateful.

Audrey

[mjbmedia]

Originally Posted by Audrey Harvey

I'm probably technically not a real newbie, I've been here a while and have made some pocket money, but my personal biggest frustration that drives me insane is I have absolutely no idea how to make and upload a download page. I've googled for instructions, and tried lots of things but it just doesn't seem to want to happen for me.

If someone can direct me to simple and straightforward instructions on how to create a download page and where to upload to my hosting, I'd be eternally grateful.

Audrey

hi look here, none of these are anything to do with me by the way

How to create a download page?

6 Easy Steps To Creating A Download Page, Your Gateway To Selling Online Products | Impact Info Marketing Blog

take your pick from this page:-

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[karlp295]

I think from what ı went through another important thing is accepting that such small changes in terms of words, layout, design and tactics can make such a huge difference.

I didnt believe that changing one word in a link text could affect conversion but it can...

Another thing that newbies find frustrating is finding answers because the only answer is to test as every site, every market is unique

[tiger325]

the overload of information....what to believe, where to start

[Mike Hill]

Originally Posted by The Wanderer

Geomat said:



Are you kidding me? How about 'Save money! Learn to spot all the clever psychological tricks that practically pull your cash out of your pocket!' Hell, all you have to do is rewrite the pitches all the masters use on you -- the ones that have you desperately thinking that if only you had the money for that super-special, guru-making event or mentoring program you'd be set for life --and wondering what you could do to get your hands on that cash by the deadline of the 'limited time only offer'-- only target the consumer and get them thinking what they could have done with the money they've wasted on brilliantly marketed junk. Give them a teaser by explaining just one of the hooks. And then, when they buy-- deliver. Go over everything you've done to hook them in, point by point.

Do you know anybody who hasn't spent money they couldn't really afford on a product they don't think was worth it? I don't. Think most people wouldn't pay a few dollars to learn how that 'buying trance' that had them convinced that they just had to have that product was established? And how to break it? There's a very real need for this stuff. And where there's a need, there's a market.

On second thought, never mind... I'm all over this one! ;-)

You obviously didn't pay attention to what I was responding to. Oh well, it don't matter.

Mike Hill

[richfit]

Information overload probably is a major problem but I would say that the reason for information overload is, "Not taking Action."

You have to take action on the information you receive...

In the Future of Information Marketing I was interviewed the other day and I spoke about this problem saying that if you're not delivering SHAC then you're going to fall way behind...

Check it out at info-riches.com/blog

Best,

Bryan Dulaney

P.S. Look for My Interview!

[Opalinereverie]

For me, it wasn't only information overload, but also after I got something receiving decent traffic ( that is, a handful of visitors a day) I could never seem to convert any of those visitors into buyers, regardless what method I was using.

[Gilby]

My biggest frustration is receiving 20 emails a day with offers from gurus. They all look good and the temptation is to buy everything until you're broke. I've settled in on only one project at a time until I make some money.Then, and only then, can I move on to the next one.

[eajones]

Along with information overload, there is a lack of focus and not knowing what action to take. The newbie really does not know where to start unless they have a real mentor that will set up a step-by-step plan to follow.

Most newbies continue to chase the hope of making money online by buying every ebook, course or seminar because that is what is presented to them. They don't know any better.

[ShayRockhold]

Newbies need baby steps to make some money. Then they can build on those baby steps.

Sometimes you just need to have very simple steps laid out for you.

[jazzyjeff]

Number one on my list is being able to "focus" on just one method and do it to the best of my ability.

I've gone from method to method and only made a few sales here and there. If I had only focused I would be sitting pretty now.

Jeff

[mbealmear]

I think the #1 problem is that newbies are coming in epecting to make money overnight and not taking the time to realize that this IS a business and that it does take time to establish your business and learn the different techniques.

[Li Weng]

I think there are 2 major problems newbies face.

Number 1 is that they don't have a clear road-map, and they feel like they need to know absolutely everything to take that first step.

My suggestion for this problem would be - Just take action. It doesn't matter what you don't know. It's implementing what you do know that's important.

When you learn something, immediately implement it. It might not work like magic the first go, but at least you're putting knowledge into practise, and you will get better and better at it.

Another problem is that newbies are still skeptical about it all. They cannot get past their doubts and limiting beliefs about whether or not they can actually make money online.

So they don't want to take the risk.

But I say, the biggest risk in life is to end up achieving none of your dreams just because you were afraid to take a risk!

Believe you can do it. If other people are making hundreds and millions from the internet, so can you!

[Peggy Baron]

I agree with so much said here.
Li Weng just touched on what I wanted to add - doubts and self-limiting beliefs. For a lot of new people it's just plain scary to get started. They look at how much the gurus know and how much they, themselves, don't know and don't feel they have anything to contribute. They forget that even the gurus started in the same spot they're standing now.

When you're new there are a lot of times when you're be faced with having to step outside your comfort zone. Do you do it anyway? Or stay in your cocoon? Scary stuff for many... until they start seeing some success.

Peggy

[angela99]

Judging from what newbies say when they do make money it seems that their #1 frustration stems from a lack of belief in themselves combined with a distrust of the method they've chosen to make money online.

Newbies say:

"Wow! I really did it..."

"I just got paid $X... it works!"

"I can't believe that I just made $X for ________"

There are endless ways to make money online.

Pick a method which others are using and make it work for you. It will. And once it does you'll be amazed at your own lack of belief in yourself. :-)

Cheers

Angela

[yfish]

I would say number 1 frustration is "patience".

You can do all the researching, developing, implementing, maintaining but yet you may not see any results showing sooner than expected!

[jayden.fellze]

I feel the newbie frustration could be because there are so many sites and so much of information that he gets confused. Even before he gets used to one direction, he gets attracted to something else and the result is no success, lack of traffic, and frustration. So a newbie has to understand the business and get used to a particular type of work first and then after standardizing with it, he can look for others.

[iwebtopia]

My problem is not having enough time to do what I want because of lousy J.O.B. Can never devote time I would like to IM because always being at work and other responsibilities. That is my #1 frustration.

[Josef_Benjamin]

One of my biggest fustrations was exposure and transparency.

Not being afraid to express myself and who I am to hundreds and thousands of people.

There's more to being succesful online than most initially believe. They eventually learn the realities, and get fustrated

[AndrewCavanagh]

Originally Posted by Jared Alberghini

#1 Newbie Frustration : [I]
On a particular project of mine, I was debating whether or not to offer a monthly membership fee, or a one time lifetime membership fee...

Here's where I 'Reversed my thinking' when I put myself in my customer's shoes (which I have also worn a few times myself, purchasing different products/memberships/etc... as I am sure you have worn yourself...)

I took a step back and thought... I really like this product, but I don't want to be locked into a monthly fee... If this product that I am very tempted to buy right now was a one time 'lifetime membership fee' I would purchase immediately...

Now, I'm in no way saying that one time offers are better than monthly membership fees... no way, no how... in the bigger 'business' picture, surely a monthly residual membership fee is the best way to go for your business... but it depends on the product.

In this particular product's case, once I took a step back and thought about it as though I was a customer, it was clear that I needed to go the 'Lifetime one fee only' route, simply based on the product/offer itself, and more importantly, based upon my true emotions that came out of nowhere when I was thinking like a customer.

This doesn't have to be an either/or question.

You can offer both options.

Some people might want to pay a lower upfront fee and be happy with continuing with the monthly fee if they get value from the site.

As you say every situation is different.

Kindest regards,
Andrew Cavanagh

[AndrewCavanagh]

My biggest frustration when I started out internet marketing many, many years ago was I didn't understand AT ALL how to put a website online and I didn't really have the budget to do it.

But back then it was a WHOLE lot more expensive and difficult to do and much harder to find information on how to do it too.

Getting a website online now is pretty easy but I'm guessing many newbies still have some trouble with this.

Keep in mind they don't understand ANYTHING so all the terminology is confusing.

Kindest regards,
Andrew Cavanagh

[Eric Lorence]

Most Internet Millionaires and do full scripts and codes on there websites with no help and many know tons of computer hanking tips. It would take the average person 15 years to get there. You need skills

No... you don't.

You hire people with those skills.

[Eric Lorence]

I think the number 1 frustration for newbies is the psychological manipulation that they are exposed to by the many scams and pseudo-scams.

How powerful are those images of clickbank and paypal earnings coupled with the oh-so genuine sounding testimonials?

Many of the sites use powerful techniques to switch to visitor to the right side of the brain where they are susceptible to suggestions and manipulation. It's no wonder many switch from one to the next without realizing that they have been cleverly manipulated.

There probably should be some sort of training or course to help newbies counter the types of psychological abuse they will no doubt encounter.

If you are a newbie here is fodder for your first ebook. :-)

Just because someone is new at something, doesn't necessarily mean they're "soft minded".

From my experience, many people breaking in today are cynical by nature, and not as easily fooled.

Hence the popularity of "Is this a scam?" searches.

Psychological abuse? To me, that was the endless Britney Spears birthday ads on ABC last week.

[jrsencio]

Information overload..

not taking action..

buying a product only to find an OTO which gives you a feeling that you won't make the most out of the product if you don't go for the OTO, which was unadvertised in the first place...

misrepresentation, advertising does not tell the whole truth.. there are a lot of really good sales letters for really crappy products

[NormanSP]

Sorting out the good from the bad information is frustrating. The bad wastes time and can lead to a good product never being released because the owner can't find the help he needs at the outset.

[sinpeople]

I would say it is lack some sort of 'literature review'. Most newbies get started from one specific angle. Like me, I started from Adwords. What lacks is an overview of the entire business. I got to know the importance of building a list only 1 year later after I made my 1st sale!!! If I can have some sort of literature review at the first place, it will shorten that time.

[blairezon blenn]

Actually there are lots of #1 Newbie frustration:



- Feeling overwhelmed with information
- Feeling distracted by too many gotta-have offers
- Feeling a lack of technical expertise
- Feeling the need to know everything before starting
- Feeling afraid of choosing the wrong opportunity to pursue
- Feeling afraid just to begin

[Jared Alberghini]

I think the 'Info-Overload' leads directly to the 'Where Do I Start' syndrome.

- Jared

[Neil Aberle]

Well I can sure relate to this!

I feel like I'm going through the typical path for most newbies which is:

1) Initial Discovery. WOW, look, there are all these cool ways to make money online, look at all these other people doing it, I want to do it too!

2) Immersion. Reading everything I can get my hands on, soaking up tons of information, learning a lot very quickly, but still getting completely overwhelmed with all the opportunities and different systems. Buying one product after another but never applying the system (who is not guilty of this when they started?)

3) Spending many hours and dollars but not making any money.

OK so now what?

Well I think I'm right that the big difference between those who succeed and those who don't is taking ACTION! Doing something positive to grow your business every day WILL WORK! You just have to do it.

So now as of today I have made the following commitments:

1) Work with the programs I have, and don't start any more programs.

2) Limit responding to email to 30 mins per day.

3) Spend almost all of my day working on generating traffic. At least 20 forum posts, 1 article and blog entry every day.

OK that's it for this post, anyone got any other really basic suggestions for me?

Thanks

[AdamPichardo]

#1 Not knowing where to start!

It would be awesome if there were a step by step definitive guide for the person just getting started in Internet Marketing. With the amount of information shared over the internet, it is sometimes overwhelming to know where to start and what to concentrate on first and foremost and how to get off to the right start.

I have just started myself and found some free training that shows you step by step how to effectively market any business online. Not any one system or ebook or course is going to give you everything you need to be successful in the industry but you have to start somewhere. It's a no brainer when you find the right free training!

It's not easy either. You have to be dedicated and focused because if you don't you are bound to fail just like the nauseating 97% of people who fail.

[Easy Cash]

Originally Posted by AdamPichardo

#1 Not knowing where to start!

It would be awesome if there were a step by step definitive guide for the person just getting started in Internet Marketing. With the amount of information shared over the internet, it is sometimes overwhelming to know where to start and what to concentrate on first and foremost and how to get off to the right start.

I have just started myself and found some free training that shows you step by step how to effectively market any business online. Not any one system or ebook or course is going to give you everything you need to be successful in the industry but you have to start somewhere. It's a no brainer when you find the right free training!

It's not easy either. You have to be dedicated and focused because if you don't you are bound to fail just like the nauseating 97% of people who fail.

Yes - have to agree with you there. There are so many ways to make money online it is difficult to choose.

When you do finally choose a method - you try it and try it and expect results quickly.

Then - because you don't get results relatively quickly you get frustrated and try something else - which only compounds the problem.

You really can't go wrong here though at the Warrior Forum. You can get help if you ask so this is the best thing about it.

[JAIDEEP2959]

Fear of getting scammed.

[mrsray]

Originally Posted by Cindy Carraway

My problem is not having enough time to do what I want because of lousy J.O.B. Can never devote time I would like to IM because always being at work and other responsibilities. That is my #1 frustration.

I'm with you Cindy ... When I do get home from my J.O.B. I am so f'n tiered. I only have a couple hours a day to myself to work online with ... and even that is hard to come up with.

[Benchlegs]

My number 1 frustration is not knowing WHO to believe. It seems for every "positive" (someone telling you this is how to do it), there's always a "negative" (someone who says "that way's OK, but I do this").

Because their is no one way, but multiple ways to make money online, I think everyone has to have their "trial and error" time to find out what works best for them. That takes time and patience, something newbies seem to lack...at least I do.

[lkovalev]

I think the #1 newbie frustration is not knowing who to listen to or which direction to take...

[oneempowered]

Originally Posted by Easy Cash

What would you say is the number 1 newbie frustration?

I think we’re asking the wrong question.

Frustration is a secondary emotion … a symptom of the real problem. If “things” or “circumstances” are able to (or allowed to) frustrate us, that’s a sign that we suffer from:

LACK OF an overriding PURPOSE or DIRECTION

In other words, these other things can only frustrate us if we don’t have a clear idea of where we want these IM skills to take us.

When someone says “I want to make money with Internet Marketing” the first question we should ask is “Marketing WHAT on the internet?”

IM is like a set of tools. How can you know which tool to use if you haven’t identified what you are building?

A framing hammer isn’t going to do much good if you’re building a motorcycle. We each have to identify our WHAT before we can identify which tools to use.

So ...

• What need do you want to satisfy?
• What value do you want to add?
• What problem do you want to solve?
• What hunger do you want to satiate?

Even drug dealers choose a niche.

Every IM newbie has to choose one too. You might as well choose one that you’re passionate about, because you’re gonna spend a lot of time focusing on it.

There is no use forming a plan or taking random action until we know WHAT we want from it. Then we can choose which action to take; which tool to use.

Once we have our CLEAR PURPOSE, “too much information” won’t be a problem – it will be a blessing.

Also, positive attitude and focus come more naturally when we have an overriding purpose and a clear vision of where we want to go.

Choose your WHAT before you worry about your HOW. Don’t buy any IM product until you have identified your PURPOSE.

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