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Old 01-19-2009, 04:20 AM   #151
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The number 1 newbie frustration is to many information's and reading every crapy ebook how to make money online...
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The number 1 newbie frustration is to many information's and reading every crapy ebook how to make money online...
That is the wrong frame of mind. There is never enough information. You may run into more information than you could ever use but the goal in IM is to create value to other people. You can offer value just by having the knowledge from an ebook or training course that the next person does not know about and right there you are more valuable to the next person and in turn they will look to you for more valuable information.

You have to invest in your education. I have spent my last dollars on ebooks and courses. Some have been useless but there are many that have provided me with valuable information that I use today that prove to be invaluable and that I would not know about if I didn't pick it up. If you have that type of frame of mind that it is "just another ebook" then you are bound to fail as you feel you already know all you need to know to make it and that could be farther from the truth.

You always have to be in the frame of mind that you are on a journey to self enlightenment whereas you are constantly learning and empowering yourself with knowledge to pass on to others to create more value in your life as well as your following.

Even the top producers in the industry are still learning and teaching themselves new things. They know it was critical to their success in the first place so why stop learning. It only compounds the effects of the success they have already enjoyed. You just have to find the right things to pick up.

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Gee's... Only in so called 'Get Rich Quick' arena’s would someone expect a guarantee of success by someone else and a step-by-step program to make it easy to boot! Ease of entry has never been a guarantee of success, just a door opener with your permission for someone else to take your money and your time.

This is my first post here at this forum, but I have multiple successes in multiple industries for close to 30 years. Not one of them did I expect a program to be laid out for me step-by-step. You have to be willing to work that puzzle yourself to find the truth of it.

My first business on the corner in the early 1980's resulted from searching out a solution to a need I had at that time. In the process I saw a developing new, trending and exciting industry. The buyers of this new specialized consumer product line were telling everyone around them about it and how they loved it, that's how I heard about it. So I became open to replacing my current solution (everyone has one already) and thus became a customer of the product and still use it till this day (wear it out and buy another every few years).

I moved quickly to become educated and became an employee of the most successful store of these products located in my area leaving a very secure j.o.b. I had at the time. That worked into becoming the store manager within a few months. Just over a year I had the knowledge, the inside scoop to open a similar business of my own. Interestingly, in DIRECT competition of the business I had worked for. Yep, I walked out on a big salary plus overriding commission on total store sales to start my own store down the street. Crazy, maybe, maybe not!

Well, long story short. That move became a small chain of several stores that I eventually sold off as individual assets 6 years later. Why did I sell, well, I rode the trend and sold at the crest and found another and began again. I continue to do this over and over to this day.

My post here is to say this... Stop looking for someone else to hold your hand, find an exciting industry experiencing growth and success and emulate it. Re-work your OWN program and do it better than your competition (who are all around you by the way).

If you are finding you are distracted, then someone is simply selling to your greed and that is your weakness. Correct this now…

Newb’s, find a trend and stake out your future competition, develop your systems, commit to do it better and ACT. Or be lead around by the nose until you run out of time, money and patience. In this case you better hold onto that job if you have one…

And for those Cash Cow wanna bee's... You better wise up, cause if you sell it, you better be willing to back it up with expertise and results. Or get the wake up call of your lifetime from seasoned real business owners who deal with REAL HARD EARNED MONEY.

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Default Re: The number 1 newbie frustration

I think a lot of newbies are looking for over night success... I'm mean it's drilled into there heads. For instance all the ads on the internet just about pitch one thing... "GET RICH QUICK"

So when a newbie gets started and they don't see that instant success that's when the frustration starts to set in.

I like to tell newbies that its a real business that takes real work. Yes you can work from home and make good money just be ready to work for it.

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I agree with information overload. Just jumping from plan to plan, strategy to strategy.
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Yes, I have to agree with most that the number one frustration is info overload followed by technical skills and trying to do too much at once to make that immediate income. There is too much hype on the things coming out these days and a newbie feels that the money is going to come pouring in immediately and when they get started it doesn't.

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Speaking as a newbie I find my biggest frustration is all the BS you have to sort through just to get to the meat and potatoes. When you finally find the meat and potatoes you start to take action, but all the other BS is floating around and you lose your focus on what the good stuff was that you found. To that end you go back to find your path again and you get side track on this and that while you're looking for the meat and potatoes again.

Another thing that I really find to be a nuisance is all the fluff these guys are putting into their material. You know the stuff I mean. It tells you how great they are and how they walk on water to make millions of dollars. Then they show you their paypal balance sheet. After all this you've had to wade through 5 or 6 (maybe even more) pages of crap waiting for them to get to it and they give you a list of what you need to do to make money. Of course the list goes something like this:
  • Get traffic to your site
  • Get an autoresponder
  • Create a product
  • Get a paypal account

Well, duh, I knew that before I started reading. Here they wasted all your time and truly never say anything worth reading. I don't know about you, but the only thing they've accomplished is to help me decide that I will never do business with them.

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I guess someone could launch a WSO with some of the info in this thread...

But wouldn't just be even... "More Information Overload"?
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  • getting traffic

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The number one Newbie problem is the Newbies lack of focus. In fact lack of focus means you don't stick at one thing or another and fulfill something.

If you stick to a project, usually you make money. But when you jump from one opportunity to another you don't.

The "gurus" don't normally mind, so long as you keep shelling out your cash on new products. But there are a few who do. Look for their reviews, and WSO's and stick with one, and you will make some money, learn alot, and gain more confidence.

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I totally agree with information overload.
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The information overload generally comes because the newbie (and the experienced) sign up and are like kids in a candy store with too much money ... taking some from here, some from there, and never sticking to one or two ideas to get the full understanding from them ...

The gurus are just a little more focused.

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I prefer the monthly, just because it means monthly residual from my efforts.

one of my programs i am in is both. $3 one time, or you can upgrade for $30 a year and make a residual.

The other program I am in is $10 a month. the pay is better in this one, but cost is more.

So I like having both of them. niether costs all that much, but I can offer something that will fit most needs.

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Info overload is really my own frustration. The way I look at though is
that the info overload is like a weed out process.
I takes alot of patience a persitence to keep taking on all this information in the hopes that you will at least make a buck.
The information overlaod is a real test to see if this business is right for you. So far I enjoy the learning process.

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I would say the number one frustration, getting told all these great things that will take place, then once they get you to sign up or pay out your money, they dump you. You never hear from them again. There is plenty of that. Which is bad for everyone. not just the newbies. makes for more skeptics.

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The number one Newbie problem is the Newbies lack of focus. In fact lack of focus means you don't stick at one thing or another and fulfill something.

If you stick to a project, usually you make money. But when you jump from one opportunity to another you don't.

The "gurus" don't normally mind, so long as you keep shelling out your cash on new products. But there are a few who do. Look for their reviews, and WSO's and stick with one, and you will make some money, learn alot, and gain more confidence.
That last point about gaining more confidence is a major part of the reason newbies keep jumping from one ship to another.

You're confident in your ability to work hard at something when you're coming from the offline world, but once you step into the online world there are no bosses and no daily accountability. Mix that with a lack of knowledge about the internet and what it really takes to make money online and you've got a scared puppy looking for shelter.

Been there done that.

The key is to exercise "common sense", which can be incredibly difficult to do because the desire to succeed coupled with whatever a persons circumstances are can blind them to what they knew to be true all along.

If you want a moment of clarity step away from your business for a couple of days (if you can) and don't do anything even remotely related and you'll be surprised at how your mind will begin to logically put things together.

Make your own way. Reverse engineer the information that you've accumulated and put your own plan together. Tune out all the other noise going on around you and just do what you know and you'll probably end up launching the next best seller online.

Don't believe me? Look at all the books that have been written about traffic generation and article marketing alone. Are those methods particularly new? NOT. However each of the product creators simply reverse engineered the method to make it perform better.

That only happens when you make your own way. Overloaded with information? Start making the information work for you and tip the scales in your favor.


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for me its: #1. Lack of SKILL (its make them confuse what to do after reading all the threads)


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I think the # 1 frustration is not having the knowledge to know what works and what doesn't.

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I'm a semi-newbie. The thing that is most frustrating for me is trying to put together the perfect "game plan" to follow. For example, I've got a pretty successful blog that is finally starting to bring in some sales. Now I have people wanting me to duplicate that system for them, but I have completely engrossed myself in my niche and feel so daunted at the thought of doing that with another topic. But it could be a huge income stream if I were able to duplicate it and in a fast manner. So I would like just a simple roadmap for starting in a new niche. Lay it all out for me step by step. I just want to read the instructions and follow them and know that they will work. I don't want to have to compile my own game plan because like others have said all the information is conflicting, so I don't really know what exactly I SHOULD be doing and I don't have confidence that I will be doing the right things at the right times.

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Lack of focus.
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Lack of focus and consistent action.
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My # problem is list building. I just dont seem to have a clue.
2nd is too much reading of one guru's secret formula, or another guru's 200page read of how to make tons of cash online. Im sick of reading.
#3 is finding the right niche, and focusing on it.
IM is so exasperating sometimes.
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well ive been a newbie for almost 2 years and I can say the most frustrating thing would have to be:

1. Being a newbie when it comes to building good websites.
2. Not putting any effort into IM.

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Just doing it no matter if you don't have all the knowledge or skill.

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Information overload, not knowing what IM products will really help them and...

building a beautiful website with great content... and nobody knows it exists. Read that as getting traffic.

That was my biggest surprise when I started.

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I guess someone could launch a WSO with some of the info in this thread...

But wouldn't just be even... "More Information Overload"?
LOL!
Now that will definitely be "information overload OVERLOAD"

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Master some of the basics first:

Choosing a worthwhile niche.
Picking keywords.
Learning the basics of SEO.
Finding or creating a simple product.
Starting your first website.
Writing reasonable headlines and copy.
Make a few sales.


Do this and you will be ahead of 80% of people who try to make money online.
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I totally agree. There's certain things that newbies don't understand.

1) A website/online business is just like any other business out there. There is time and money to be invested in order to succeed. There is no way out. I just started a new website, Violet Pan and this one will be a big hit, already invested couple thousands for design/theme, content..

I'm not saying that you can't succeed without a budget, anyone can start from scratch just as I did two years back, but there is a certain point when money is needed, basically for outsourcing all kinds of task (when you own more than 100 domains, hell it's impossible to keep up with all of them)

Just an example of how a business is started.

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Some Great Answers As Usual!

It's always nice to see so many different answers, ideas, suggestions and personal stories of what frustrates a particular individual.

It shows that most people think there is more than just one major frustration.

I agree somewhat with information overload, although as one warrior said "you can't get to much good information".

I would suggest that too many of us try to read too much information about to many subjects on how to make more money, get more traffic, acquire more followers, and increase our reach within the World Wide Web.

One of the biggest frustrations has to be a return on investment (ROI).

Whether that ROI is money based, success based or just simply an ability to get your website noticed matters not. Getting a return for the effort to make is vital to the success of your business and of course doubly vital to how you feel.

And that surly must be the real number one newbie frustration.

I think most of us warriors realise that success does not happen overnight. We certainly know that making money (and growing a business) requires an injection of money, time, belief and meeting the right people.

So frustration needs a solution. And the problem never changes, and the answer is always the same.

Traffic. You need targeted traffic and you need to focus every ounce of energy you have focusing on getting that targeted traffic to come to see you. And we all know that's the truth.

So the frustration is not having traffic, and not having that traffic convert into a sale, or a call to action. And that is where information overload takes over us.

I think we all (as newbies), try to read and learn everything that comes out on how to funnel traffic to our websites or offers. Beginners need to follow the basics. Stick to old fashioned traffic ideas and focus in on one area of making money online.

You can't be everything to everyone.
You can’t do everything (every task) required to succeed online.
You can’t float from one moneymaking idea to the next.

We have to focus our energy on one skill, one business idea and spend all our time chasing traffic, funnelling traffic, converting traffic and expanding our skill, reach and followers.

Article marketing, social marketing, directory marketing, blog marketing and whatever else marketing are ways to drive traffic. That's all they do. They don’t make money for you; they just drive traffic to your offers.

Learn to convert that traffic and your frustration will get less and less.

Here’s wishing you a great 2010 for traffic. And remember. The warrior forum has all the answers without the hype for getting targeted traffic. Whether that answer is a VA or by hiring the skills of another warrior, or just learning about converting traffic to sales. Focus on traffic and swap frustration for success.

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Learn to convert that traffic and your frustration will get less and less.
As a former rehabilitated newbie I'd have to say that the #1 newbie frustration stems from having unrealistic expectations that result in loss of focus and lack of determination to succeed with any method.

Take getting traffic for instance, when I was new I used to think that if I was getting a few visitors a day to my website that I was getting traffic, so what did I do next according to the "experts?"

Start toying with the copy to try to get the traffic that was coming to my site to convert. Nothing wrong with that except...

If you don't have a significant amount of traffic coming to your site to begin with, all of the tweaking of your copy ain't gonna make a stitch of difference. I found that out the hard way and wasted countless amount of hours tweaking a site without a sufficient amount of traffic to test it to begin with.

It's said that on average a website without a lead capture mechanism stands to convert 1% out of 100 visitors. So for every 100 visitors that come to your site 1 stops to actually take a good hard look at what you're offering, but...

If only one out of a 100 stops just to take a look at your offer, how many visitors would you need to actually make a sale from the number that stops to take a look?

With unrealistic expectations newbies are tempted to rush the process and then when the results don't show... now you start getting frustrated.

Here's what I do now and should have done when I first got started that would've saved me a whole lot of time and made me some money faster...

I should have learned to drive a consistent daily average of at least 500 visitors a day or more to my site.

Whether the copy converted or not, the most important thing to master is the art of getting massive traffic to your site on a consistent basis, then you can tweak the heck out of your site one bite at a time to start making money.

And before that, make sure what you're offering is what people are looking for in the first place instead of trying to force a square block into a round hole.

Chances are if what you're offering is something that people are looking for in the first place, even with crappy copy you'll still make sales because you have enough eyeballs looking at what you have to offer.

This is what the big boys do. Create an offer based on market interests and drive a truckload of traffic to it via ppc, or content marketing and tweak it from there.

I wish I knew that two years ago, but once I readjusted my expectations and re-focused on the fact that whether online or offline marketing is a numbers game, that allowed me to simplify the process and help me to develop the ability to drive massive traffic instantly to any site I develop.

So yes you have to learn to convert your traffic, but first you have to master the art of getting that traffic and that won't happen if you have unrealistic expectations beyond the fact that getting traffic will come as a result of promoting your site and in the end...
marketing is a numbers game.

With more numbers according to the law of averages, you'll convert more sales.

Yeah, well that's what I had to learn the hard way that the glossy websites and ebooks don't teach you.

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indeed, information overload plus the lack of ACTION. I have been jumping from one program, to the next, and I have tried various membership sites. I am stuck now, and dont know exactly where to begin. I spent and wasted money chasing the "next big thing" out there and still havent earned a dime. Sigh!

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Information overload/lack of focus. If you were going into a real brick and mortar business would you be going in so many directions and changing directions so many times without developing the last change to see if it is working.
Lack of FOCUS
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Another newbie here:

There is no No 1 newbie frustration. There are many...

Where to start, how to find the method of IM that is best for YOU regarding your skills, language, interest, free time, how to overcome the low budget... what niche to choose since we are not "experts" in any niche, how to find keywords, how to do SEO, how to write unique content, how to optimize articles, what to write about on our blogs, how to get traffic to our blogs, how to increase rankings, how to convince people to buy from our sites, how to build a converting squeeze page and build a list, how to create an e-mail follow up sequence and what to offer to the list, how to learn basic HTML, how to make a video if you are not a native english speaker, how to create our own product, how to create a sales page, how to create graphics, how to write a review...wow, there is probably more...not to mention the frustration of looking at 0.00$ day after day in our clickbank account...

Where to find enough time for learning all that? WHERE TO START?
info overload? definitely.

But for me the NO 1 frustration is when some guru shows me his clickbank account on his sales page that shows six figure income and makes me actually believe that I can do the same with almost no work at all in probably one or two weeks, he gets my 50$, and when I get the product I realize that it is just not possible. again.

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I'm embarrassed to even admit how long it took me to figure out what people were talking about. Y'all throw around terms and there's no dictionary or glossary for it! I'm pretty technically competent, so it wasn't the technical aspects that were throwing me for a loop - it was figuring out what the terms meant and how they applied to what I wanted to do - or if they even did apply to what I wanted to do and whether or not I could make money doing what I wanted to do!

As noted by prior posters, this is mostly self study. And for me, it was like reading a car repair manual. You can see something that says "connect the whatjamacallit hose to the carburetor," and you can look under the hood of the car - but if you don't know what the whatjamacallit hose or the carburetor look like, the instructions are useless.

After that, the problem was maintaining focus on ONE thing until it was successful before moving onto the next thing. That has more to do with my ADD and control issues than anything else, most likely. And scaling up is still an issue.
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