So Sad, No Money

16 years ago

I agree Bev. I have seen quite a bunch of posts tat reak of desperation. It's really not that difficult to make money in this business and it can be done on an extremely tight budget. All you need is a plan and focus.

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Nizzura

16 years ago

Hi Bev,

I often got emails from my subscribers saying that they have
no money to pay their rent or something like that.

And they always ask for a quick solutions. For example, "I need
money to pay my rent at this end of this week. Can you help me
with your IM skills?"

How can we answer them as there is no magic pills in this world...

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Hardi Wijaya

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Nizzura

Hi Bev,

I often got emails from my subscribers saying that they have
no money to pay their rent or something like that.

And they always ask for a quick solutions. For example, "I need
money to pay my rent at this end of this week. Can you help me
with your IM skills?"

How can we answer them as there is no magic pills in this world...

My 2 cents

Nizzura

Hey sama juga!

I found out that 50% of them are newbies. The other half already knows something about IM. But I just don't have answer for them, because they want something for nothing.

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DonnaLeona 16 years ago

To my fellow IM addicts:

Do we really stand a chance against some of the best marketers in the world?

When we read their copy we get a huge dopamine rush - the urge to buy is irresistible.

The only way to win is to NOT go into the wso forum. NOT read their sales pages.

When you feel bored, overwhelmed from the work you know you must do, you know that a new rush awaits you in the wso forum. So you go there promising yourself that you are only going to look this time....

It's not your fault! This is how the system is meant to work and why many on this forum are making lots of money.

Here is the solution:

Decide what you are going to work on for the next month. Have one project only. Make it big enough to take an entire month. Then consider the types of information that will help you do this one project. As you scan the wso headlines only click on the ones that apply to your current project. When you find something that excites you - wait 24 hours before you buy. Maybe you can pass after all.

Of course the best thing is to stay out of the wso forum until your project is completed and then reward yourself with a shopping trip.

Also, skip reading emails until your project is finished. Save ones you want to read later in a special folder.

Just think how great you will feel in one month when you've completed an entire project!

I know this works because I do it myself.

Good luck, you will need it.

Donna Leona
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sparrow

16 years ago

Bev

I think this is the new addiction, I see it all the time.

All they have to do is focus instead of chasing.

I have to pinch myself every once in a while to get back on track, this business has so much candy its hard to resist looking at the next big thing.

But business has been going on centuries before us and the internet and it all took work, desire and focus.

You pretty much put it all on the table.

Ed

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Dwayne Pressley 16 years ago

You CAN'T be serious! People buy ebooks and don't even download them? WTH? No wonder they complain about not having money, when they get it, they don't know how to handle it!

Maybe that's what makes IM so hot! Countless people want to do the min. and make the max.

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Colin Evans

16 years ago

Hi Bev,

I agree that some people are serial shoppers, have no self motivation, get easily sidetracked and let's not forget it's easy to ignore people on the internet when the pressure is on...

[edit]the rest of my reply is a comment in general - it is not directed towards Bev's coaching [/edit]

But if you don't give people an incentive to carry on with your coaching you will lose them anyway. Incentives are important because self motivation dies with the absense of rewards.

If your coaching is three or four months of solid learning before a reasonable income is earned, people will become demotivated, get bored and jump on the next big thing.

As a coach you have to get people to believe that what you're teaching them is working.

The person being coached needs to start earning immediately. Their income must grow with each coaching installment, then there's a good chance they'll become hooked, and do the work you give them.

It's Pavlov's dog's all over again... You'll have them drooling over their next assignment because of the extra income they'll earn.

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JMartin 16 years ago

Some people just like to dream.

And some get so overloaded with info that they keep seeking more, because they feel like they're missing something. And the dog chases its tail round and round.

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Anup Mahajan 16 years ago

I find IM very similar to stock markets... Both these fields suffer from herd mentality syndrome..

In stock markets people are chasing next big stock, in IM the next ebook that will make them rich overnight.

Sadly people are more likely to fail than succeed when they hop from one opportunity to another.. The people who succeed work hard to build a solid foundation to their business...

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- TimS 16 years ago
  
  I have helped several family members and a friend to make money online. Many of them have learned enough that they eventually taught me a thing or two (sometimes 3) as well. Those are the most enjoyable people to teach. There is a lot of satisfaction in teaching when the student excels.
  
  I have also spent countless hours coaching individuals who never made it past their first article. They don't have enough to buy the necessities of life and they had it all within their grasp. All they had to do was to reach out and grab what I was offering to them.
  
  The hard part is that it is difficult at times to recognize which category a person is going to fall into. Sometimes I direct them to the warrior forum and then talk to them in a week or two to see if they still have the desire. Perhaps I could make up some warrior forum cards to hand out to those that ask me for advice. It could say something like...
  
  Take one of these and call me in a week.
  
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  pwebbiz 16 years ago
  
  Bev,
  
  Posts like these make my day! What really gets me is when they're in that situation and selling / promoting a clickbank product about how to get rich overnight!
  
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  Bruce NewMedia 16 years ago
  
  I agree Michael & Bev, .....the biggest baloney going is when someone pours out a long sob story about how their site is not getting any traffic, is not showing up on any Goog searches, and making them like a whole $2 amonth with Adsense.
  
  They literally BEG for suggestions on how to jumpstart their business.
  
  THEN, you glance down at their signature and it says: "Learn How To Drive 1,000 Unique Visitors to Your Site Every Day - its EASY and FREE!"
  
  I crack up whenever I see that (which is quite often)
  
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  Seattle Mike 16 years ago
  
  Why do people keep buying another new ebook promising riches?
  
  1. Its addicting
  
  2. Its easier than doing work but feels like you are moving forward. At least until Thursdays email hits the mailbox with something else "That has to be the Missing Secret"
  
  Best thing when you are starting out is to avoid lists and if you buy an ebook, follow it all the way through to see if it works before you buy another one. Too many different strategies slow you down. Finish what you start.
  
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  MoonLoh 16 years ago
  
  I found that some people buy the products from those website that promised them can make fast cash within short period without need to learn any skills. They just buy and sit back hope that money will drop from the sky.. Too bad to tell that so far I never discover any program that can make me earn fast cash without put in my hard work and effort.
  
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Kim Standerline

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Bev Clement

The mortgage is needing to be paid, gas is needed for the car, the car insurance is due, so's the car payment, and then there is food to buy, debts to be paid, and the list goes on and on. How will I ever make the monthly payments, when I spend more than I make in a month?

There is an easy answer to that, I will get involved in Internet Marketing, I gather you can make money in your sleep.

How many times have we seen these comments here?

Too many.

But, do you know what is really sad, those who spend money they don't have paying for books, software, coaching and anything else.

That could be what they need to help them out of their situation, but the majority (and no I don't have any figures on this) spend money, buying the dream and then doing nothing.

They will buy the latest ebook, some won't even download it, what good is that?

Others will spend 3 or 4 figures on coaching, and never complete the coaching. I have had people who have done nothing with their coaching. They start well, and then ignore emails, skype or any form of communication. They then spend again and again trying to make money whereas all they are doing is throwing money away.

I have seen people spending money on a WSO, and then complain it didn't give them what they thought, and the following month buying another WSO from the same person in the hope that this time it will be different. Why? If they are alike why would one be better than the other especially if you have completed the first one.

This is the real reason people have no money in IM, they are addicted to shopping. If they used what they bought it would be something, but buying and then leaving it rot on your hard disk is not going to make you any money.

If you are in the position where you can't pay your bills, then quit spending. Use what you have and make money. It really is as easy as that.

It is easy to make money online, you just need to find out what you can do and then do it.

Oops, I forgot those who keep buying and buying and not making any money, don't like to take action because that is work, and they are lazy.

So be a lazy person who spends, and puts money into our paypal or quit spending and start working at your business.

Thing is Bev, some people don't like it when you tell em to get off their virtual ass and do something.

They want to believe in that IM dream where it all falls into their lap because that's the easiset thing to do.

I bet most of us on the warriors (who do make an income) have given out some pretty sage advice, but because it involves someone actually doing something they don't want to hear it. (Sad)

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marley 16 years ago

I think where the make money online niche is concerned one of the reasons for a lot of peoples inability to act seems to be chasing that perfect opportunity that will do all the work for them at a knockdown price sadly it does not exist.
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- trafficwave 16 years ago
  
  I see this quite a bit, too.
  
  They spend years getting themselves in to a financial mess and then think that by joining some "magic" program, they are going to fix it all in 30 days or less.
  
  Many times, when a client complains to me about "no income", I am able to take a look at their account and quickly identify why they aren't making money.
  
  They haven't taken the first steps to learn and use the tools they have.
  
  It reminds me of the naysayers about "The Secret". They seem to have locked on to the idea of "all you have to do is think happy thoughts" but they don't register anything about taking action.
  
  Years ago, I was one of those, "I don't have any money" types. And I really didn't.
  
  The difference is that I was working 2 jobs during the day, playing gigs at night, and cleaning boats on the weekend.
  
  Then... when I got home late at night ... I would go online and study internet marketing. I bought ebooks, sure. I read articles. I picked up books like "HTML for Dummies" and got started.
  
  There were some nights where I didn't sleep at all. I would be reading and learning.... and next thing you know, the sun was back up and I had to go back to the job.
  
  So when I hear people whine about things like, "I don't have time to read the training. I get home after 6PM and I'm tired!".... I really have to watch myself!
  
  Most of the time, it seems to me that it's not the "system" that isn't working. It's the person!
  
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Tim Franklin

16 years ago

It is true that a huge percentage of Buyers, Customers, Clients, just do not achieve the results they really would like to see.

This is because of many reasons, each situation is different, taking action is just one aspect of the entire equation.

For an example, I have a neighbor, that has a problem keeping a job, he goes from job to job, quitting one job and then looking for another one.

I tried to help him, by paying him to do some work on a spare computer, while I attempted to get him to understand some of the things that are required in order to start making money online.

He failed, not because there was no opportunity, but because he had no motivation to work, not in Internet Marketing, or in any job for that matter.

He just does not want to work at all.

Some people have so many personal problems they cannot concentrate on doing one task, without worrying about all the little problems they have in life.

It distracts from learning about what is required in order to function online.

It really does not matter how good a program is or how good a coaching program might be, if the person that is the client is not motivated to do the work.

They will fail every single time.

I personally hate watching people that are in the pond treading water, just staying in one place, instead of swimming to the next goal in life.

They tread water, waiting for the life preserver to be thrown by someone else.

They wait for someone else to motivate them, when in reality, no one can motivate another person to do anything.

Motus, in the latin, is Move, thus to become motivated you must do it from within yourself.

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Steve Peters Benn 16 years ago

This is a sad phenomena isn't going to go away anytime soon, particularly with the economic situation and the massive influx of new traffic into this forum. I imagine Allen has had to spend some serious money to cope with the traffic.
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- cashcow 16 years ago
  
  I think another thing that holds people back from taking action is their "limiting beliefs". This doesn't just apply to IM but to anything.
  
  For example, my brother in law desperately wants to get out of the industry that he is in. He has a plan for starting a business in something he loves. He has been laid off so now is the perfect time for him to work on and implement his plan.
  
  He has most of it all planned out already! So I asked him "so why not get started today?" - he had a million reasons why it wouldn't work, why he wouldn't be able to get funding etc.... Instead of focusing on the positive and how to make it work, he won't take action 'cause he already has himself convinced he will fail. So what if he does - at least he tried!
  
  I think a lot of us are brainwashed to think we have to plod along working for someone else and accepting a meager existance then when we try to challenge ourselves to break out, something in our subconscious holds us back.
  
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luckystar

16 years ago

HI BEV,
You are right, but i fill the problem is from adverts. Non of the adverts i have read states categorically how much needed to start, rather everybody promises of no cost to run program as soon as you buy. So i am of the opinion that the least amount required for any program should be included in the sales page. So that if one can, he/she can enroll. I was once a victim of buying from one program to another, not untill i found what i am into now which pays well.

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Richard Tunnah

16 years ago

Hi Bev,
On the money! (or not as it were). Think it's human nature that we all search for the 'magic bullet' but it's just at what point you realise it doesn't exist and like any other business you need to work it to succeed.

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Steven Wagenheim 16 years ago

Truer words were never spoken Bev.

I have had people pay for coaching, never start and never even email me for
their money back. And then when I email them, I don't even get a reply.

It's beyond sad. It's unexplainable. I don't get how people can be like this.

Me? When I do something, I attack it like a bull in a China shop, many times
recklessly, but at least I go at it. Do I make mistakes? Sure. I've screwed up
more than my share of product launches by being too hasty about certain
things.

But not take action?

You'd have to tie me to the freakin bathroom floor with photos of Kevin
Riley on the ceiling.

No, I just don't get it Bev.

And you're right...it's just plain sad.
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- slushatwork 16 years ago
  
  You have to treat this business as just that ... a business!
  
  I had the same problem, chasing after a bunch of ebooks and stretching myself thin, which only made me unfocused and frustrated. It's all in the mentality - you have to treat this as your own small business, complete with tasks, goals, and plans. Otherwise you'll quickly flounder with no direction or dicipline to make this work. I would tell every newbie (and my past self) to at least read some basic business books (Gerber, Covey) before tackling IM.
  
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  Mark McClure 16 years ago
  
  I recall Brian Tracy saying that most people are not cut out to be entrepreneurs and would be better off (and more content) working for others.
  
  I guess that's probably true although I suspect a fair % of folks could run a part-time or hobby IM-type business.
  
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16 years ago

Originally Posted by Bev Clement

If you are in the position where you can't pay your bills, then quit spending. Use what you have and make money. It really is as easy as that.

It is easy to make money online, you just need to find out what you can do and then do it.

Oops, I forgot those who keep buying and buying and not making any money, don't like to take action because that is work, and they are lazy.

So be a lazy person who spends, and puts money into our paypal or quit spending and start working at your business.

You should hear her when she's really mad!

Far too many people think they can spend or borrow their way out of a financial jam. You can't buy a product that makes you money all by itself.

Plan on earning every cent you make. That works.

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dwieder

16 years ago

i agree with all of your sentiments. the world crisis is affecting everyone's life. think about it, how far can you go with just a dollar in your pocket? there are a lot of things to pay, a lot of things to buy, yet we do not have enough money to use. as for myself, i will start saving bit by bit for my future.

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Jason Mathews

16 years ago

" They will buy the latest ebook, some won't even download it, what good is that?"

HaHa

You are joking right? I have not seen people throw money on the street, what makes you say they would throw money on the internet?

They go through the process of having to enter their name, address, card details and so on and probably the form telling them that they have entered something incorrectly countless of times, finally they are able to download the ebook and some people wont even download it?

Are these people found only in your imagination or do you have data to prove it?

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MikeAmbrosio

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jason Mathews

" They will buy the latest ebook, some won't even download it, what good is that?"

HaHa

You are joking right? I have not seen people throw money on the street, what makes you say they would throw money on the internet?

They go through the process of having to enter their name, address, card details and so on and probably the form telling them that they have entered something incorrectly countless of times, finally they are able to download the ebook and some people wont even download it?

Are these people found only in your imagination or do you have data to prove it?

Jason,

It's unfortunate but all too true. I don't have exact numbers, but I can say so for two reasons:

1- I have purchased ebooks and either would download and never read, or simply get side-tracked and never download them.

2- I have an on line course that uses audio, video and ebooks. I got an email from a new user who joined a year after I launched to tell me one video and one ebook link did not work.

He was right. And, they were like that since day one. In a year, no one else noticed it. That could only be because he was the first to actually try to open them.

I could tell you more stories of people who PAY for personal mentoring via email and telephone and never even start, much less finish.

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trafficwave 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jason Mathews

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Are these people found only in your imagination or do you have data to prove it?

His imagination ...

And mine ...

And many other marketers on this forum and elsewhere.

I don't remember the exact numbers but a Tony Robbins audio book mentioned this same situation. Tony's organization had done some followup surveys that revealed:

* the vast majority of people might have opened the materials but never finished them.

* a LOT Of people never even OPENED the materials.
(As in ... never even cracked the seal on the DVD's!)

* Few completed the materials

* An AMAZINGLY small percentage actually APPLIED the information.

Sad.

It reminds of me a story that many of us may be familiar with:

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A concert pianist had just finished an amazing performance.

A young man approached him and said, "Sir, I would give anything to play piano like you just did."

The pianist looked at him and said, quite seriously, "Son, you must practice 8 hours a day, every day, for the rest of your life."

The boy, shocked, replied, "But I could never do that!"

The pianist said, "Then you shall never play as I have played this evening."
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Pretty simple: If you want what they've got, you need to do what they do.
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- D.K. Magnus 16 years ago
  
  It couldn't be the sales page that makes it sound easy, that has people thinking it will be easy, could it?
  
  It couldn't be the sales page that minimizes the amount of work involved, that leads people to believe they won't have to do any work, could it?
  
  It couldn't be the sales page that makes it sound like people are getting rich while sitting in their bathrobes answering emails for a couple of hrs. a day, that has people thinking that they will get rich doing something easy for 2 hours a day, could it?
  
  It is kind of a physician heal thyself problem.
  
  Offering a lazy marketers guide to making money on the internet, shockingly draws the attention of lazy people.
  
  After finding out there is no IM tooth fairy who will magiclly make me rich, I now get my IM advise and guidance from people who tell me I will have to work hard to get what I want.
  
  Now if I'm not getting the results I want, I don't look for another ebook, I look to myself and the efforts I'm making.
  
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  trafficwave 16 years ago
  
  I used to work construction years ago for 10 - 12 hours a day.
  Making money online is EASY!
  
  I used to have to climb around on a hot roof all day.
  I sit here and answer emails in my gym shorts. It's EASY!
  
  When I started realizing I could make money with my mind, I started working for a Finance Company.
  I had to put on the ol' suit and tie and spend hours each day calling, driving, meeting, negotiating, etc... Overall it was easy work and I got paid well. But I never got to see my kids.
  
  Today, I don't drive anywhere to meet clients. I spend a little time on the phone when I want/need to. I answer emails, write articles, do some search engine optimization, send out ads, post ads, etc....
  
  My friends with jobs harass me about "Do you actually WORK?".
  Sure... I "work".... if you can call sitting at your desk in your shorts and "playing with the Internet" working.
  
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  Bev Clement 16 years ago
  
  Jason, yes I have proof that people don't download the product. I use a third party for my downloads, and I get the stats as to how many times they try to download it. You would be shocked at the results of how many people don't download the product.
  
  I've had people buy the same product more than once, and they still didn't download the product. And yes I have contacted them and given them a refund.
  
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  TorontoCarol 16 years ago
  
  While I agree that people are hopping around from one product to the other instead of taking action, sometimes it's because the product is way beyond them. When I first started to learn IM, I joined Nicheology for a number of months. There was nothing wrong with the program, but since I didn't have any foundation to start with, I had no idea how to use the materials. Sure there were tutorials, but they were beyond me. So I quit and tried something else.
  
  Often the problem is also in getting the wrong training for the stage you are at. Like getting my grandson reading out loud when he doesnt even know his alphabet yet. So he repeats what he's heard without any idea of how to really read.
  
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  DonDavis 16 years ago
  
  I don't really grasp the point of these sorts of posts.
  
  Look, it is just part of human nature. Some people are go getters and some are not. This isn't anything unique to information marketing (internet mktg or whatever you want to call it).
  
  I have been in sales all my life. I could almost always predict which newcomers would make it and which ones wouldn't. Some people couldn't sell ice water to a Florida roofer. They just don't have the "right stuff". And this is of course about selling when you strip it all down.
  
  The only reason it seems like this sort of marketing has more non-acheivers than elsewhere is because they go on the forums and talk about their dispair. There is also a very low point of entry as anybody with a domain name can hang out a shingle. But these people exist in every walk of life, it's not just here.
  
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  drewjones Banned 16 years ago
  
  Simple....
  
  Are you bragging or complaining?????
  
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  trafficwave 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by drewjones
  
  Simple....
  
  Are you bragging or complaining?????
  
  Since I'm the one that said "Pretty simple", I'm assuming this question is directed toward me.
  
  I'm not bragging or complaining.
  
  I'm stating that I believe the concept to be simple.
  If you want what someone has got; then do what they do.
  
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  colinredk 16 years ago
  
  There's this quote I've never really forgotten,
  "Jump, and the net will appear."
  
  It's not a physical net, of course, and not referring to the internet, as it's been inside my head from before internet became popular.
  
  But what I was pointing at is that it's easy to say you're going to take the plunge, going to go into IM, and make lots of money. But it's totally different from actually doing it. And much harder to drop away from your day job and depend on IM income.
  
  A newbie who knows next to nothing about marketing or websites, who wants to go into IM. That's the profile of most of the people here on Warrior. And the profile of most of their friends. I would guess I was willing to plunge, and let go. It's working so far. I'm not there yet, but earning as much or a little bit more than what I was earning in my day job. It's easy to ante up, buy the ebook, signup for the DVD. But moving forward from there and taking the next logical step? That's the hard part.
  
  Yup, it gets harder. Trafficwave may not be on the roof working, but he's pulling more hours than before. Same here. I guess that would be true for most of us. No more travel from home to office, because the home is the office, the travel time just got converted to productivity working. 12 to 16 hour work day. That might be a turnoff for a newbie.
  
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  JaturontThan 16 years ago
  
  "Just Do It!" It's a real nice slogan...
  
  Internet Marketing is not a tough road if you work really hard. There is no book on earth that will teach you everything. You have to start doing it and learning in the same times.
  
  Keep up reading but also keep doing and testing new things all the time.
  
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  Mike Hill 16 years ago
  
  Good Lord, when I first started reading your post Bev I thought to myself... Oh man, here we go again.
  
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Mary Gallivan 16 years ago

Hi

I agree with many of the points already made. I've responded to questions from newbies and the answer is in the signature. It doesn't seem to go down well when it's pointed out.

It's already been said but it is down to them looking for the 'magic bullet' or the 'secret'. When they discover that there's work involved well, that's a different matter altogether! You're supposed to be able to make money 'while you sleep' or so we're told.

It's not much different to the people who want to lose weight, give up smoking etc. (guilty of both) and buy every diet book, search out every latest fad, try it out for a few days and surprise surprise find they haven't lost half their body weight, or likewise with such books, haven't woken up one morning as a non smoker with no cravings.

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Mary
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- Jason Mathews 16 years ago
  
  Maybe the "Easy way to stop smoking" would help Mary.
  
  It seems to work for soo many people. I have read it 3 times and each time stopped for the day.
  
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- jhongren 16 years ago
  
  Hi Bev,
  
  You are absolutely right in Everything you say.
  
  It is not easy to kill the addiction and so most people let the addiction kill them .... and really slowly.
  
  I know of people who invested a few thousand dollars in coaching and started off NOrmally enthusiastic but only to realise their fire is extinguished really quickly.
  
  They are just complainers who complain about Everything else except themselves.
  
  They take the easy way out of not doing anything and just keep on dreaming, hoping that one day the sky will drop money onto them, just for them to spend.
  
  These people just need to take the simple action - that is to act on their ideas, but it seemed to be the most difficult step to take.
  
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  Daniel E Taylor 16 years ago
  
  It's actually a mindset problem. I had that same problem
  starting out, and you'll find most people have that
  problem starting out in IM.
  
  The key is to continue to learn and don't ignore books
  like "secrets of the millionaire mind" and books like that
  which kind of touch on the concept of it being a mindset
  problem.
  
  The thing is most people in that state lack the paradigm
  to even put the information they buy to use. It's funny.
  
  Because I still go back to this day and watch old Eban, Reese, Kern
  videos and go "Oh crap that's what he was talking about". Then
  implement it into my business a year later and watch it work like crack.
  
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  johntanyishin 16 years ago
  
  Probably what they need is to learn how to manage their finance.
  
  There are so many great internet marketers who excel in selling that these people who come online to find solutions, may end up even more broke.
  
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  webcashuk 16 years ago
  
  I have a couple of interesting takes on this very interesting discussion.If you had spent 200,000 to setup a real world store you sure as hell wouldnt walk away the next week as the next idea hit you.With too much invested it wouldnt be possible but for your internet business to be successful you must adopt a similar mindset.
  
  The other key though is the overnight syndrom and how everyone is instant these days.Whether it be instant coffee tea or anything else we want and have got accustomed to instant.The internet only makes this worse.You do some adverts you go to bed you wake up check clickbank or where ever find you have sold nothing and think hmmm.Next
  
  I am just as guilty as anyone else with this but i think people need to focus focus and then focus once more.Give things time keep working dont give up and seek advice and at some point it will turn and start to grow and flourish
  
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