How important is it to have a good host?

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One thing that always creeps into my mind is how many sales I'm losing since I'm on a shared hosting plan.

Has anyone here noticed any drastic improvements in sales when moving to a VPS or dedicated server?
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  • Profile picture of the author Rich77sm
    have you looked into a reseller plan?? i moved up from shared and never looked back!
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    • Profile picture of the author FredJones
      Pardon my ignorance, but how did that help, unless you were flipping domains?

      Is it the load speed? Is it the nature of products that you are selling?

      I would love to learn.

      Originally Posted by Rich77sm View Post

      have you looked into a reseller plan?? i moved up from shared and never looked back!
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  • Profile picture of the author spartanic
    Care to share your results after moving to reseller?
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  • Profile picture of the author rondo
    Why do you think you're losing sales with a shared plan?

    Andrew
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    • Profile picture of the author theentry
      Originally Posted by rondo View Post

      Why do you think you're losing sales with a shared plan?

      Andrew
      The only thing I can think of are the downtimes or maybe slow loading speed.
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  • Profile picture of the author spartanic
    I use prosper202 to track my ppc sales and have been noticing lately that I'm getting some downtimes on my shared hosting plan. It's happening a bit too much and I have noticed my sales dropping off.
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  • Profile picture of the author rondo
    What type of site are you running and how much traffic do you get?

    If your site is causing the downtime because you are straining the server - then upgrade to VPS.

    Or if you just have a crappy host - then move to more reliable shared host.


    Andrew
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave90210
    Hostgator is amazing never had any issues with them on my shared account.
    • Profile picture of the author RioNomad
      Originally Posted by Dave90210 View Post

      Hostgator is amazing never had any issues with them on my shared account.
      Agreed. I like Hostgator much better then Bluehost as well. Faster tech support among other things.
  • Profile picture of the author Matt Morgan
    Originally Posted by spartanic View Post

    One thing that always creeps into my mind is how many sales I'm losing since I'm on a shared hosting plan.

    Has anyone here noticed any drastic improvements in sales when moving to a VPS or dedicated server?
    A hosting service IS NOT somthing that you should be tight when spending money on.

    You should spend money on a good reputable hosting company.
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  • Profile picture of the author spartanic
    I was considering hostgator but it seems like a lot of the prosper202 guys who switched over are having issues with the software. I'm considering the VPS package by beyond hosting, which is reccomended by the prosper202 team.
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  • Profile picture of the author cjseven
    I started with cpanel reseller account to host my sites and my clients sites.

    Very soon I had to move to VPS (downtimes, server load, etc) and now I'm moving to dedicated.

    As soon you get profit to do it, a VPS or dedicated is the best option.
  • Profile picture of the author martin675
    Originally Posted by spartanic View Post

    One thing that always creeps into my mind is how many sales I'm losing since I'm on a shared hosting plan.

    Has anyone here noticed any drastic improvements in sales when moving to a VPS or dedicated server?
    One thing I've become is very aware of the difference between a good host and a bad host. To put it simply (and obviously) a good host makes it easy for you to create and maintain your web site. A bad host gets in the way and makes you angry, unhappy and gives you an ulcer.
  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    I've had a dedicated server for over a dozen years.

    I've no clue how much things would suck on a shared server.

    I've always kind of liked it that way.

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  • Profile picture of the author Caragui
    Using a reseller plan and haven't have any problems. Very important if you plan on having many sites. Also a lot less hassle.
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  • Profile picture of the author TristanPerry
    Shared hosting can be absolutely fine.

    If you go with a bad host, though, then anything (including a VPS, which could be oversold and poorly maintained) could be a bad thing.

    Find a good host and stick with it, would be my suggestion Shared hosting from a quality host would be miles better than VPS hosting from a bad host.

    When on shared, track the server's loads and if they are constantly above 4 (assuming it's a 4 core CPU), look to change hosts.

    But yeah, having a good host is very, very important IMO. It's been shown that even slight slowdowns (even 200ms delays) in website loading times can lead to relatively high losses in sales.

    And one quick point - a reseller account is still shared hosting. It's just that the accounts you create have seperate spaces and [cPanel] accounts. Don't think of reseller hosting as an upgrade. Think of it as shared hosting with the benefit of being able to open multiple accounts.

    And typically a VPS is an upgrade from shared, although if you go with a massively oversold VPS provider (the ones selling VPSes for - say - $5 per month), you'll still run into problems. If you go down the VPS route, be prepared to pay $30 p/m at a minimum and be sure to go with a reputable provider.

    Anywhoo, I use a VPS for my hosting (from KnownHost. Them and WiredTree are the two best VPS providers around IMO; better than Hostgator VPS).
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  • Profile picture of the author jamawebinc
    I think you are generalizing too much about shared hosting.

    The account I am on now is great. The downtimes are nil. If you have a service setup to track your down times this comes in handy.

    Once, I switched to a certain webhost that some of the Guru's were touting as "The Host The Guru's use" and "The webhost that understands Internet Marketing"

    They were more expensive, but if it was going to be better and more reliable, I was fine with that.

    To my surprise, the down times were incredible. Every 3 hours or so my website was down for around 5-10 minutes.

    I would try to access my website and would get an error. I couldn't understand and the online support was no help at all.

    They had one volunteer setup to answer tech help. It was as slow as could be. You had to download some confusing program to use the tech help to it's full capacity...I had never seen anything like it.

    But...it came so highly recommended so I stuck with it...after all, it was the best right? It was the one the Guru's used during their launches because they were so reliable and they understood internet marketing...

    Well, I set up downtime tracking and my suspicions were confirmed. My website was down for extended periods of time, multiple times during the day.

    The problem never got fixed even though I had promises it would and excuses as to why it was happening.

    Eventually I came to my senses and moved my websites off this webhost. They may have been Guru recommended, but they were awful! They were, actually, the worst webhost I ever had and I have tried many.

    So, it's not shared hosting that is bad, it's the webhosting company
  • Profile picture of the author Suzy 29
    I have been with Hostgator a while and i havent had any problems with them. If you get any issues contact them via there live chat. They are really helpful and will take you through your issues step by step
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  • Profile picture of the author spartanic
    TristanPerry, an particular reason why hostgator vps isn't good?
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    • Profile picture of the author TristanPerry
      Originally Posted by spartanic View Post

      TristanPerry, an particular reason why hostgator vps isn't good?
      Woah, I chosen my words badly earlier

      Nope, from what I've heard HostGator VPS is fine - pretty good and competitive packages and stable etc.

      I was mainly making the point that (at least IMO) KnownHost and WiredTree are currently the two best VPS providers.

      But yeah, apologies for the confusion. Hostgator VPS seems fine
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  • Profile picture of the author dv8domainsDotCom
    Almost anyone will start with shared, b/c it's inexpensive. Then VPS then ded. IMO, stay on shared till you've damn near HAD it, then move straight to dedicated. With the right control panel, you'll barely ever have to interface with the Operating System anyway, and unlike a VPS (which is STILL a shared environment) you have 100% guaranteed access to the resources and never have to worry about some clown running crappy scripts that bog it down. (some reseller hosting are merely VPS-equivalent)
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