You Tube, etc: Don't put all your eggs in one basket

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While I was on vacation in Switzerland, I logged into my G-mail using my brother-in-law's computer and my friend's hotel's Internet. For some strange reason (I've logged in from Switzerland in other years, and also Singapore, Austria, UK, US, and Bali) this time Google thought it was a suspicious activity. To protect me, they suspended my Google account until I could verify it.

OK, not too big a problem. Within a day I had verified and got my account back online. However, try watching any of my videos on the KevinRiley account at YouTube and you'll see "This video has been removed due to terms of use violation." Lovely! Seems the account got wiped out and my request to Google has so far been ignored, lost, or shuffled off to oblivion.

Does this affect my business? I'm sure there are some lost sales, and it affect a few streams of opt-ins, but overall ... not really. It's an annoyance, and a loss of some pretty cool videos I've done over the years, but since my business doesn't rely on this one source, it's not affecting my business adversely.

MORAL: Do not put all your eggs in one basket. Do not rely on one property which you have no control over - YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Blogger, Squidoo, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kelvin Brown
    and knowing kevin riley, this is not a setup but a setup for a comeback via special report, " don't let this happen to. How to login anno, when viewing your sites from another country.

    So, get to writing.

    And don't forget the email capture.

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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
      Originally Posted by Kelvin Brown View Post

      and knowing kevin riley, this is not a setup but a setup for a comeback via special report, " don't let this happen to. How to login anno, when viewing your sites from another country.

      So, get to writing.

      And don't forget the email capture.

      Kelvin
      LOL, I wish I could, but I'm way too busy. Started writing The Clockwork Manifesto in Switzerland. This will be my magnum opus, so it needs a lot more work yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    I think this sums it all up

    MORAL: Do not put all your eggs in one basket. Do not rely on one property which you have no control over - YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Blogger, Squidoo, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author petelta
    Crap man, that really sucks. Great moral that you were taught...which I'm sure you already knew lol. At least your bad fortune may help the next poor unfortunate soul.

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  • Profile picture of the author tycoon828
    I heard lots of bad things about Google. So I will definitely go other ways to build my business online.

    Thanks for sharing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kelvin Brown
      Originally Posted by tycoon828 View Post

      I heard lots of bad things about Google. So I will definitely go other ways to build my business online.

      Thanks for sharing.
      It's not so much about going the other way, but learning to play by their rules. Even if you have to learn them the hardway, or in this case the easy was, as we did not have to suffer it directly.

      Kevin gladly took one for the team.

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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
        LOL, actually, the worst part is that I lost my playlist of favourite music videos. There were a lot of good tunes on there. C'est la vie!
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
          Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

          LOL, actually, the worst part is that I lost my playlist of favourite music videos. There were a lot of good tunes on there. C'est la vie!
          AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!



          Here's one to get you started on rebuilding your list...


          Seriously though, you make a good point. We have seen it time and again, and we all tend to think we're somehow immune - even though we know we're really not. Maybe we put off backing things up for another day, or we decide that Google is the only e-mail client we'll use (after all, they are so convenient, and the features are excellent, right?).

          All the best,
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  • Profile picture of the author tecHead
    When you found out, did you say... CHIKUSHOW! Google no yatsu!!

    Sorry to hear it, bro... but you're right.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
      Originally Posted by tecHead View Post

      When you found out, did you say... CHIKUSHOW! Google no yatsu!!

      Sorry to hear it, bro... but you're right.
      Actually, I'm still in Swiss mode, so I said "Huara verdammta seich!"
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    Sorry to hear about your Youtube disaster, Kevin. Google can get really heavy-handed at times with accounts (and obviously this includes Youtube too since they now own it) especially when multiple IPs are involved. I'm sure this mishap probably had something to do with you logging in from multiple IPs all over the world within a short period of time.

    One way to get around this issue would be to use a VPN (virtual private network) with static IP; this way you'd always appear to be logging in from the same IP no matter where you are. They are fairly inexpensive these days, and if you're concerned at all about security (which you should be, especially if you're traveling and connecting to open, unsecured wireless networks) this would ensure all your data flowing in and out of your computer is encrypted.
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  • Profile picture of the author woonkiat
    Sorry to hear the bad new.
    For most of us it's still one of the way to get our link (hopefully) out there, so we still need it but will look for other sites as well to prevent it happening to us.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
    I love how you are so calm about it, and thats because it was only one of many eggs in one of many baskets. I guess for us newbies who have been told follow through with one thing this is also a tale of caution as far as backing up etc. Make sure to limit your down time because you only have the one or two baskets.

    Inspirational none the less Thank You Kevin.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
    I also love that Kevin has a good attitude about it and is not turning this into some enraged anti-Google rant.

    I see people on here all the time who are furious because their paypal account got suspended, adsense account got suspended, whatever - whether because they screwed up and violated TOS or because paypal or Google was overly zealous about something like clickbombing.

    Ranting about the problem doesn't accomplish anything except raising your blood pressure and making you miserable. The way to solve that problem is to calmly and politely communicate with Google or Paypal and be persistant, and patient, until the problem is resolved. Either way - it's going to take the same amount of time to get it fixed, so you might as well spend that time being calm and planning new ways to bring in income, rather than being furious at a giant corporation which deals with millions of people every day.

    Yes, it sucks to lose sales because Google or Paypal or Amazon or whoever made a mistake, but again, as Kevin points out, it is never smart to have all of your income depend on a business that you have no control over.

    And since it would be unlike me to join in a Kevin Riley thread without descending into juvenile humor - hamsters, whiskey, and green mankinis. That's all I have to say.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
      Originally Posted by Dana_W View Post

      I also love that Kevin has a good attitude about it and is not turning this into some enraged anti-Google rant.
      I'd rather rant about important things, like putting pearl onions in Martinis or calling Bourbon or Rye a good whiskey.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
        Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

        I'd rather rant about important things, like putting pearl onions in Martinis or calling Bourbon or Rye a good whiskey.
        .....or all-u-can-eat-sushi places that claim to serve "real" sushi or bars that have last call at 1:15 am!

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        • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
          Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

          bars that have last call at 1:15 am!

          RoD
          What? That's an outrage. I'm just getting warmed up by that time.
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          • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
            Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

            What? That's an outrage. I'm just getting warmed up by that time.
            My thoughts exactly.

            In all seriousness though, your original post reminds me when I was making 50% of my income from PPC marketing (oh those many years ago) and when Google pimp-slapped me all the way to kingdom come it had a significant impact on my company.

            Today PPC marketing is about 5% of our overall traffic / income generation and our portfolio of products / niches / offerings / etc. are extremely diversified. So in today's world it wouldn't matter if Google or Youtube went out of business because the impact would be marginal at best.

            Relying on one traffic generation method or only on one or two products is playing marketing roulette. I think a lot of people need to be reminded of that - even some of us tequila-drinking vets.

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      • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
        Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

        I'd rather rant about important things, like putting pearl onions in Martinis or calling Bourbon or Rye a good whiskey.
        Or referring to whiskey as whisky as certain
        unnamed miscreants (John Taylor) are wont to do...

        Just sayin'

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  • Profile picture of the author DogScout
    "LOL, actually, the worst part is that I lost my playlist of favourite music videos."

    Ahh Ha! That could explain the TOS issue?
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
      Originally Posted by DogScout View Post

      "LOL, actually, the worst part is that I lost my playlist of favourite music videos."

      Ahh Ha! That could explain the TOS issue?
      Definitely. With my taste in music, I would not be surprised. Probably my addition of the Muppets' version of "Fxxx The Pain Away"
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Hi Kevin,

    Sound advice. I intend to promote more of my videos on different networks after hearing your story.

    Thanks for sharing the reminder.

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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

    Do not rely on one property which you have no control over - YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Blogger, Squidoo,
    ...the WSO forum...

    You know, just to spell that out.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

    MORAL: Do not put all your eggs in one basket. Do not rely on one property which you have no control over - YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Blogger, Squidoo, etc.

    Kevin, I am surprised you had to learn this lesson the hard way... I had to learn the hard way last year, and I always thought you were smarter than me... LOL



    Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

    ...the WSO forum...

    You know, just to spell that out.

    That will cut deep in some circles CD...
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  • Profile picture of the author CatherineC
    Banned
    This is the same problem article marketers fear with ezine, or bloggers fear with worldpress/blogger.com. If they go under, or you're barred from using them, holy cow years of work could evaporate quickly...
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