New members: Read This

Profile picture of the author WarriorForum.com by WarriorForum.com Posted: 10/02/2010
The fact that you're new doesn't mean you don't know a lot about marketing. It may suggest that you don't know how things are done here. Take this as friendly advice, intended to help you avoid the most common mistakes.

1. Do not use affiliate links in your signature file.

2. Post in the appropriate section of the board. Questions about SEO or posts asking for advice on specific products belong in other areas. Not Main Discussion. Post them here and they're more likely to be deleted than moved.

3. Use subject lines that indicate something specific about your question. Subjects like "Heeelllp!" or "I'm annoyed" are pointless and waste people's time. They also usually fail to get the attention of the folks most well-equipped to give you useful answers.

4. Do not post complaining about specific people, guru or newbie. We're not the Internet police and we can't do anything about it. And we don't have a clue if the complaint is even valid. Most of them turn out not to be. So, the claim that you're just trying to "alert our fellow Warriors to this problem" most often means nothing. Even when that's your sincere intent, which isn't usually the case.

5. If your thread is deleted, do not re-post it. Do not post a thread asking why it was deleted. Read the rules, watch how things are done here, and figure it out. This is not complicated stuff.

6. Remember that threads get deleted for lots of reasons, most of them having no reflection on the original poster. They can be nuked because they're the umpteenth copy of the same discussion in a short period, because they're on topics which too often degenerate into flame wars, because they have nothing to do with making money, because they're pointless, because they tend to drift into bashing, and lots of other reasons.

7. Don't assume anything when you see the word "Banned" under a user's name, other than that the account has been blocked from posting for some period. "Banned" does not always (or even usually) mean anything bad about the person.

8. If your sig file is a bunch of keyword phrases with links on them, don't be surprised if it's deleted. If that happens, don't just re-insert the same sort of thing. Especially if there's no way for us to know the domain belongs to you.

You are not allowed to link to other people's sites that way from this forum. If you get caught doing it, you're likely to be permanently banned.

9. Read the stickies at the top of this section, and make sure you understand them.

10. Don't be surprised if something is deleted and you're not told why. This place is too big. It would take more time than there is in a day for us to notify every person of the reason, every time we deleted a post or thread. And that doesn't begin to count the time that would be wasted arguing with people who don't understand or refuse to accept the rules.

Deleting posts is not a personal thing. Don't make it one.

11. Count on your posts being deleted if you make a lot of one-liners early on. We know what that's about, and we're as likely to delete you as your posts if you push it.

12. Use some common sense.


Paul

PS: If you're in a rough situation, read this thread: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...desperate.html
#members #read

  • Profile picture of the author Rob Howard
    Rob Howard
    A-freakin-men.

    Thank you Paul Myers, Thanks you!

    (wait, does that count as a "one liner"???)

    Rob

    Edit: Read the "stupid forum tricks" - Whoops...never thought about #10! LOL
  • Profile picture of the author newtoebookswriting
    newtoebookswriting
    i am new. thanx for the info
  • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
    Bill Farnham
    13. Posts in the Off Topic forum don't add to your post count. So don't spam the OT forum.

    ~Bill
  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Paul Myers
    Oh yeah... Read this, too:

    Stupid Forum Tricks
  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
    Michael Mayo
    LOL...How did i miss that thread??? Stupid Forum Tricks

    Paul, Thanks for this post.

    I was asked if it was alright to post a link to a site where the persons product was
    located like ClickBank or PayDotCom and I told them No. Was I right?

    The rules say it must be a Site You Own.

    Thanks,
    Have a Great Day!
    Michael
  • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Buchinski
    Lloyd Buchinski
    Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post
    Use subject lines that indicate something specific about your question. Subjects like "Heeelllp!" or "I'm annoyed" are pointless and waste people's time. They also usually fail to get the attention of the folks most well-equipped to give you useful answers.
    That one is a big favorite of mine. I tend to move a little quickly and if a topic title doesn't give a clear indication what it is about, there is only a small chance I'll spend any time checking.
  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Paul Myers
    Michael,
    I was asked if it was alright to post a link to a site where the persons product was located like ClickBank or PayDotCom and I told them No. Was I right?
    You were right. The sales copy is not on Clickbank or PayDotCom. If they're pointing to those sites directly, they're likely going to an affiliate link.


    Paul
  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
    Michael Mayo
    Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post
    Michael,You were right. The sales copy is not on Clickbank or PayDotCom. If they're pointing to those sites directly, they're likely going to an affiliate link.


    Paul
    Paul, The links I seen were to their product on ClickBank/PayDotCom.

    They were not promoting an affiliate product. It was indeed their product.
    I understand that that is a sticky situation and it could be easily confused
    but in some cases it may be the fact. I'm not pushing the issue but rather
    trying to make the answer better known for newer members.

    Thanks for the reply,
    Have a Great Day!
    Michael
  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Paul Myers
    Michael,
    Paul, The links I seen were to their product on ClickBank/PayDotCom.

    They were not promoting an affiliate product. It was indeed their product.
    I'm a bit confused about that. Those services do not host the salesletters. If it really is their product, they should be linking to the salesletter on their own domain(s).


    Paul
  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
    Michael Mayo
    Hi Paul,
    I should have stated that they were doing it through their own affiliate links.
    Some CB members use affiliate links to gauge their veiws/sales while testing.
    I believe I've also done that in the past although I have never done that here on the WF.

    Honestly, It's been quite a while since I've promoted a product I've created
    on CB or PDC so I'm a little fuzzy on the topic.

    It's kinda the reason I asked.
    Hope that makes sense?

    Have a Great Day!
    Michael
  • Profile picture of the author Derek S
    Derek S
    Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post
    Subjects like "Heeelllp!" or "I'm annoyed" are pointless and waste people's time.
    My biggest pet peeves are the posts like "Thats it I quit Internet Marketing" where they expect attention and should really be titled "Quick give me a lot of attention and talk me back into it"

    Have to say thanks for this post as thing started to get a little sloppy here the past week or so. Only thing I don't understand is why people can not use keywords in their signature. I don't see how this effects the forum so long as i) it is for their own product and ii) their post are meaningful and not just for the signature link.

    Cheers Paul,

    Derek
  • Profile picture of the author dwatkins
    dwatkins
    I just created my signature file and now I am worried that I've done it wrong. I'm linking to my resume site and to my PLR sales site. Is this ok? If not, I'll change it immediately.
  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Paul Myers
    Michael,

    Then they should use tracking links on their own domains. If the wrong mod sees what you described, they're not going to ask. It's an affiliate link, so it'll get deleted, and they'll probably get at least a temp ban for adding it back and/or arguing the point.

    Derek,
    Only thing I don't understand is why people can not use keywords in your signature.
    JUST keyword phrases. It's like affiliate links. In small numbers, it's not really a problem. Allowing them at all creates the opening for the abusive types to flood the place, with no purpose but those sig file exposures.

    The majority of nonsense posts we get lately are from people who are only posting to get those rows of links in for their "SEO" customers. The more we allow it, the worse that will get.

    I've taken to occasionally writing to the clients and their web hosts about the abuse of our resources through that practice. Gets some... interesting... responses. Everything from "Who the hell do you think you are?" (a moderator there) to "They're doing WHAT? Not with MY name on it, they're not!"


    Paul
  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Paul Myers
    I just created my signature file and now I am worried that I've done it wrong. I'm linking to my resume site and to my PLR sales site. Is this ok? If not, I'll change it immediately.
    No problem with that one. Those are sensible descriptions that would be used by normal people with no idea what keyword-based backlinking was all about.


    Paul
  • Profile picture of the author Lance K
    Lance K
    Paul,

    I enjoyed your Stupid Forum Tricks blog post as well.

    Especially this part...

    You are not the market. Get over it.
  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Michael Oksa
    May I humbly suggest...

    14. Yes, the War Room is awesome. Join it. Don't ask if it's worth joining - it is. Plus, there are all kinds of posts on it already. Join.

    15. If you are linking to a WSO in your signature, or will be running a WSO soon, then almost any question you ask about WSOs will draw negative attention. There are some rare exceptions. Other than that, we have all seen it before, we know what you're up, and we have no problem reporting such posts.

    All the best,
    Michael

    p.s. Oh, and OpenOffice makes it really easy to make PDFs.
  • Profile picture of the author I.M.Retired
    I.M.Retired
    Many new members think it is a good idea to copy and paste entire blocks of content from other websites. These posts do get nuked. However, can some one point me where it tells newbies that this practice is not acceptable?
  • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
    R Hagel
    Package this thread up, call it "Warrior Forum Mob Assassination on Crack," and then offer it for $7 in the WSO forum. That way at least some of the new folks will see it and read it.

    Cheers,
    Becky
  • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
    Steven Wagenheim
    Paul, this is such a great thread.

    So what happens when it falls off of page 1?

    Nobody sees it anymore.

    I know we already have a ton of stickies but maybe this one can be included
    or incorporated into one of the existing ones with a modified thread title
    so that new people will hopefully read this.

    It's just a suggestion because I want those who need to see this to see it
    and get the most benefit from it.

    Thank you for considering my suggestion.

    PS - I have nothing to add...You covered it all.
  • Profile picture of the author earthshaker
    earthshaker
    Thanks for the heads up Paul.

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