42 Email Series- How far apart should they be?

by entry
17 replies
I am installing a set of 42 emails for my niche (somebody has made these for me)

They are a set of Information, videos, Affiliate links etc. so a content package.

What should be the spacing distance for them? (especially the first 10)

What would be advised, (Not too often, and not too far apart but what guideline?)
#email #series
  • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
    I'd say that 15 minutes would be too close together.
    Signature
    Read this SURPRISING REPORT Before You Buy ANY WSO! Click Here
    FREE REPORT: Split Test Your Landing Pages the Easy Way
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2722885].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author jaspast666
    you could send it from 2 a day to 1 every other day. depends how aggressive you want to be
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2722888].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author entry
      Originally Posted by jaspast666 View Post

      you could send it from 2 a day to 1 every other day. depends how aggressive you want to be
      I dont want to be very aggressive
      Signature
      I Have to say a Massive...THANK YOU to every Warrior who has helped me, and thanks to every warrior who helps me in the future...
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2722895].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Jeff Henshaw
        You do not state the niche involved. I assume that you are familiar with it, so I would respectfully suggest that you consider the levels of emails/newsletters that you would personally deem acceptable, if you were the recipient of them.

        This should give you an idea of how often to send whatever. If you are still uncertain, then ask your subscribers how often and when they prefer to receive your regular information.

        Just my initial thoughts and good luck,

        Jeff.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2722921].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author entry
          Originally Posted by Jeff Henshaw View Post

          You do not state the niche involved. I assume that you are familiar with it, so I would respectfully suggest that you consider the levels of emails/newsletters that you would personally deem acceptable, if you were the recipient of them.

          This should give you an idea of how often to send whatever. If you are still uncertain, then ask your subscribers how often and when they prefer to receive your regular information.

          Just my initial thoughts and good luck,

          Jeff.
          aahh, the niche is a Non IM niche -
          Signature
          I Have to say a Massive...THANK YOU to every Warrior who has helped me, and thanks to every warrior who helps me in the future...
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2722959].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    Seeing you have so many I would say one per week on the same day at the same time. That would be 10 months of content.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2722907].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Kevin_Hutto
    I usually do 1 a day for the first 7 days then I start spreading them out. You could do 7 in a row and then one a week for the next 35 weeks...
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2722984].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Jay White
    Welcome email as soon as they optin.
    First email of the series the very next day (make sure it's a strong one)
    Every 3 days after that.
    Signature
    Copywriters! Want to Get More Clients and Make More Money? FREE Webinar: www.GetCopywritingClients.com
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2724438].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    0, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 2, 4, 1, 2, 5, 1, 3, 7, 5, 7, 3, 1, 4, 6, 2, 1, 7, 7, 7, 3, 7, 1, 4, 7, 3, 1, 4, 2, 1, 7, 3, 7, 6, 5, 7 is how I might do it.

    OR, if you prefer:

    0, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 5, 1, 3, 7, 3, 1, 7, 2, 7, 5, 1, 5, 7, 3, 1, 7, 1, 7, 3, 7, 5, 2, 7, 1, 3, 1, 3, 1, 7, 3, 7, 2, 5, 7

    OR...

    Whatever you prefer. There is no magic number.

    That being said, while you are sending out those 42 messages, get more created so you can keep them in the loop even longer.

    All the best,
    Michael
    Signature

    "Ich bin en fuego!"
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2724475].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Like Michael said, there is no magic number.

      There are, however, only two factors you need to look at to start with and a third to add later.

      > The first factor is the people in your niche. Are they compulsive email checkers, or once-a-week-if-they-remember types? Do they tend to get a lot of email, or subscribe to a lot of lists?

      If the people in your niche aren't used to getting a lot of email, and they only check every few days or so, they could check in and find a number of messages from you if you mail too often. Unless it's the kind of content that people will eat up, seeing that many messages stacked up is going to land you in the "unsubscribed because you're 'spamming' me with too many emails" land.

      You can alleviate some of that by setting out some expectations in your first message or confirmation page. "We've found that you get the best results by sending you the first X emails one per day, then they start spreading out a little as you make use of what you learn..." Then, in each message, let them know when to expect the next one and what subject line to look for.

      > The second factor to consider is the content itself. What kind of spacing does it lend itself to? A 'weekly newsletter' is different than an e-course, which is different from an email coaching program with assignments to complete.

      Look at your series, and take your best guess at how long it would take the average subscriber to gain the most benefit from that message. That's your interval for the next message.

      > The third factor comes with experience and data. Look for the messages that perform poorly, and see if changing the interval might help. Measure the result. In other words, testing and tracking to optimize performance.

      You might find, for example that a message you guessed would yield maximum user benefit in two days actually takes three. So adding an extra day between that message and the next improves response on the next message. Or you might find the opposite - a user works at using what you teach for a day and starts getting frustrated, so offering a way to make that step easier (like buying a piece of software) before the frustration passes works better if you send that message a day sooner than you originally thought.

      One of the best ways to do this is to keep asking your users for feedback.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2724888].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        Like Michael said, there is no magic number.

        There are, however, only two factors you need to look at to start with and a third to add later.

        > The first factor is the people in your niche. Are they compulsive email checkers, or once-a-week-if-they-remember types? Do they tend to get a lot of email, or subscribe to a lot of lists?

        If the people in your niche aren't used to getting a lot of email, and they only check every few days or so, they could check in and find a number of messages from you if you mail too often. Unless it's the kind of content that people will eat up, seeing that many messages stacked up is going to land you in the "unsubscribed because you're 'spamming' me with too many emails" land.

        You can alleviate some of that by setting out some expectations in your first message or confirmation page. "We've found that you get the best results by sending you the first X emails one per day, then they start spreading out a little as you make use of what you learn..." Then, in each message, let them know when to expect the next one and what subject line to look for.

        > The second factor to consider is the content itself. What kind of spacing does it lend itself to? A 'weekly newsletter' is different than an e-course, which is different from an email coaching program with assignments to complete.

        Look at your series, and take your best guess at how long it would take the average subscriber to gain the most benefit from that message. That's your interval for the next message.

        > The third factor comes with experience and data. Look for the messages that perform poorly, and see if changing the interval might help. Measure the result. In other words, testing and tracking to optimize performance.

        You might find, for example that a message you guessed would yield maximum user benefit in two days actually takes three. So adding an extra day between that message and the next improves response on the next message. Or you might find the opposite - a user works at using what you teach for a day and starts getting frustrated, so offering a way to make that step easier (like buying a piece of software) before the frustration passes works better if you send that message a day sooner than you originally thought.

        One of the best ways to do this is to keep asking your users for feedback.
        OR...

        0, 2, 3, 3, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1, 9, 4, 3, 2, 2, 5, 3, 9, 4, 2, 3, 5, 1, 3, 5, 4, 3, 7, 5, 3, 3, 9, 2, 2, 3, 4, 2, 5, 2, 9, 4, 3, 7

        ???

        My point is that some people will see these sets of numbers and STILL think they are somehow the magic frequency.

        But you nailed it. There is NO SINGLE magic frequency, but there are frequencies that will work better for each specific list.

        That being said, I generally like to get people used to receiving messages from me right away. So I may send out the first 10 messages every day or two, just to get them in the habit. After that, I tend to slow down how often they go out.

        None of the above comments take into account broadcast messages. However, my opinion is that they should be sent out any time they are required - even if that means some people on your list get more than one message from you.

        All the best,
        Michael

        p.s. Or maybe, 0, 1, 2, 1, 2, 3, 2, 3, 3, 4, 3, 4, 4, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 2, 3, 4, 3, 4, 3, 2, 3, 7, 7, 7, 7, 6, 5, 6, 4, 5, 4, 5, 3, 7, 4, 7, 7 is best.
        Signature

        "Ich bin en fuego!"
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2724952].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    I'd say that it depends on the nature of the information
    you are sending. Are the emails connected as in a course?

    Are the emails half content and some selling?

    The more you sell the more you need to space out
    the emails since subscribers can feel bombarded
    with your continual pitch. If you are providing a
    lot of needed information then you can mail more
    often (every other day) with a sales message
    once per week.

    Whatever you choose to do tell the subscriber at
    the time of opting in what they should expect.

    -Ray Edwards
    Signature
    The most powerful and concentrated copywriting training online today bar none! Autoresponder Writing Email SECRETS
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2724917].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
      Banned
      I'm going to agree with Steven that sending them every 15 minutes would be too often. I was kind of hoping that the later post suggesting one a day for the first 14 days was similarly jokey (I won't speak for anyone else, but that would certainly get me a lot of "unsubscribes"!) ...

      Anyway, you have to test it for yourself.

      If it's relevant at all (which it may not be, to you), I'll tell you what I now do - after testing about half of them, such as I could - in all of my 8 niches with all of my 8 lists: I send email on days 1, 3, 6, 10 and 15, and thereafter every 5 (or sometimes 6) days, i.e. not always on the same day of the week. For me (maybe not for everyone), any more than that would be "aggressive" and I'd expect it to cost me money, overall.

      But the main thing is: well done for having a series of 42 emails. I'm always baffled by people wanting a "10-email series" or "12-email series", myself. (I send to mine for ever. Once they're in there, it doesn't cost anything, really, and the proportion who eventually buy something is very high).
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2724964].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        I'm going to agree with Steven that sending them every 15 minutes would be too often. I was kind of hoping the post after that suggesting one a day for the first 14 days was similarly jokey (I won't speak for anyone else, but that would certainly get me a lot of "unsubscribes"!) ...

        Anyway, you have to test it for yourself.

        If it's relevant at all (which it may not be, to you), I'll tell you what I now do - after testing about half of them, such as I could - in all of my 8 niches with all of my 8 lists: I send email on days 1, 3, 6, 10 and 15, and thereafter every 5 (or sometimes 6) days, i.e. not always on the same day of the week. For me (maybe not for everyone) more than that would be "aggressive".

        But the main thing is: well done for having a series of 42 emails. I'm always baffled by people wanting a "10-email series" or "12-email series", myself. (I send to mine for ever. Once they're in there, it doesn't cost anything, really, and the proportion who eventually buy something is very high).
        I know it's off topic, but I LOVE that you used the first pyramidal numbers for your initial frequency.

        (Visual representation for sake of illustration)

        . = 1


        .
        .. = 3


        .
        ..
        ... = 6


        .
        ..
        ...
        .... = 10


        .
        ..
        ...
        ....
        ..... = 15

        </highjack>

        All the best,
        Michael
        Signature

        "Ich bin en fuego!"
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2724991].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
          Banned
          Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

          I LOVE that you used the first pyramidal numbers for your initial frequency.
          I thought about also split-testing the Fibonacci series, but decided that might be taking the "sotto voce" approach a bit too far ...
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2725016].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author mcmahanusa
            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            I thought about also split-testing the Fibonacci series, but decided that might be taking the "sotto voce" approach a bit too far ...
            Okay, if you're going to start throwing Latin phrases around, "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero"


            On a serious note, I like your thinking on frequency. It's essentially the one I prefer.
            Signature

            Success is not to be pursued; it is to be attracted by the person you become - Jim Rohn

            Visit our beautiful gardens

            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2725381].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author doop
    Best thing to do is load them up - then MONITOR the opt-out or exit rate AND the sales conversion - then TEST! Like some of the previous posts have said - there is NO magic number.

    That said: I've used every day for the first week while the prospect is fresh - then every 2nd day for 2 weeks, then every 3 days for 3....then once a week until they opt out or change lists... It's worked for me
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2725426].message }}

Trending Topics