[affiliate=none] Can cookie stuffing be the answer?

[Melody]

Not just a PC issue - have seen this problem on my Mac off and on for about 2 months - for example, purchasing a product and clearing cookies first to make sure I was getting the right affiliate ID in the link for the bonus offered - cleared cookies - went through the link - and no affiliate ID.

This happened several times - I notified several of the sellers involved but only one ever responded - and that one said it was an issue on my end.

I am thinking not......I also personally have had this problem using an affiliate page making script.....but of course don't know if it was the script or a CB issue.

Anyway - I don't have any of the usual blocker or spy scripts running on my mac - so that is definitely not the problem from my side!

[Cash Blasters Online]

Lots of good info here, so I'll steer clear of posting, keep up the good work guys. I learn a lot !!

[Ron Douglas]

Great! The issue has been resolved. Let's get back to promoting. Let's make some money.

Turn those machines back ON!

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[Dlocks]

Not just a PC issue - have seen this problem on my Mac off and on for about 2 months - for example, purchasing a product and clearing cookies first to make sure I was getting the right affiliate ID in the link for the bonus offered - cleared cookies - went through the link - and no affiliate ID.

That is 'by design'. CB uses cookie tracking when it is able to set a cookie. When CB is not able to set a cookie then CB will use ip-tracking. CB does not both at the same time.

So you should have tested it like this:
1. Remove all cookies
2. Disable all cookies
3. Go to a hoplink using your CB nickname
4. Check to see if your nickname is on the order page
5. Close your browser
6. Open your browser
7. Go to the website directly (do not use hoplink)
8. Go to order page
9. You will see your nickname

[greenovni]

Dlocks I did that and the id showed only sometimes.

[Dlocks]

Are you able to reproduce this problem? Ifso, did you also contact CB?

[Mike Bogowski]

Greenovni,

So you suggest that setting a cookie on your own site helps kick off CB.

All my sites are built in PHP so running a session_start to create a session and session cookie will get me out of problems going on your tests?

[greenovni]

As of right now, using an htaccess cookie stuffing has worked when I checked 50 times in a row. I have stopped checking until tomorrow since I have to read to my son.

Will update tomorrow when i run more tests.

[Mike Bogowski]

Aaaaah!

Ok it is all clear now! I had completely the wrong idea about your fix. I was wondering how setting cookies on different domains would help???

I hope you are only using the htaccess stuff on URL click (as in go to another page on your site first then redirect) or else you are in violation of their TOS

[Neil S]

Has anyone gotten any sales today? The past couple days have been brutal.

[Dlocks]

Originally Posted by Neil S

Has anyone gotten any sales today? The past couple days have been brutal.

I have 25 till now. Less then normal but I stopped some campaigns today as soon as I found out that not all hop links worked. (I stopped the ones that did not work. Now they work again and I resumed the corresponding campaigns)

[jasonl70]

Originally Posted by moreonlife

The problem has been solved. Clear your browser cookie/cache and then check your order page again. Everything is back to normal.

Syed

Now if only we could get all of our prospects to this

Originally Posted by greenovni

As of right now, using an htaccess cookie stuffing has worked when I checked 50 times in a row. I have stopped checking until tomorrow since I have to read to my son.

Will update tomorrow when i run more tests.

Are you only stuffing once per page, or are you trying multiple times on the same page hoping to get one of them to eventually stick?

Originally Posted by Neil S

Has anyone gotten any sales today? The past couple days have been brutal.

zero

I still can't even load any CB pages...

[Neil S]

Just picked up a couple sales. Maybe things are getting better.

[Dana_W]

Originally Posted by JayXtreme

I did this weeks ago and told people but nobody listened... it is a CB tracking issue with cookies..

Peace

Jay

Like a voice crying out in the wilderness, eh Jay? That's what they get for ignoring you.

[Kay King]

CB reported it as a one day problem that has been corrected - maybe, maybe not. I hope it's been corrected but it's been happening for a lot longer than a day.

If you've used CB for several years you'll remember how long it took them to even upgrade their site to add more functionality - I doubt they are much quicker to upgrade their tracking ability with new technology.

They do respond to problems - but always seem to resist the idea that there is a problem until it can't be ignored.

kay

[Greg Cooksley]

Originally Posted by Kay King

CB reported it as a one day problem that
has been corrected - maybe, maybe not. I hope it's been corrected
but it's been happening for a lot longer than a day.

If you've used CB for several years you'll remember how long
it took them to even upgrade their site to add more functionality
- I doubt they are much quicker to upgrade their tracking ability
with new technology.

They do respond to problems - but always seem to resist the idea
that there is a problem until it can't be ignored.

kay

Hey Kay,

I've said this before - just like every corporate out there,
Clickbank would NEVER come out into the open and admit that they
have a major problem. This would cause irreparable harm to their
reputation as a company and as a reputable money processor.

They have responded and said there was a problem for less than
a day. But this is a far bigger issue....

Just don't expect them to be open about a long term problem...

Regards

Greg

[ccmusicman]

If I had the time, i would do a full on test again...but I'm in the middle of planning a product launch...

Someone here want to do a full on test like the OP did?

Rob

[ncmedia]

Hey OP, you are promoting/testing my products mate (funnel/brotherhood). If there is anything you'd like me to do in order to help facilitate a final conclusion feel free to reach out.

A few things I'll note as I have 20+ CB publisher accounts and many aff accounts, and an army of aff's also disecting the latest trends. In my opinion and from what I see in my data:

* There has not been an influx of internal sales on any of my popular accounts. If this was the case all publishers %ref. would drop per product, none of mine have dropped.

* I just did tests on two laptops and my main PC in both FF and IE and all worked fine.

* For one of my products, a few weeks back I bought a copy every few days through my own other aff links for two weeks to try to break commission and have not been able to catch them 'red handed' missing my commiss.

* I DO see different affiliates converting now that I haven't seen before to most products, and vice-versa, thus it could be an isolated problem if any

* Will agree that there are a ton of variables that affect every network not just CB which they cannot control.

* I'm doing very well for myself as both aff and pub, as much as I sound like an ass kisser here I wouldn't continue to use them if my numbers were not still up and up.

Usually hate commenting on this type of stuff but felt compelled when I saw this one. I hope you guys dig enough to find a conclusion - as this seems to be a neverending story. Especially those of you that get 1-3 sales a day then dry up. Wait until you're at 30+ a day to really gage your data and market trends, economy, other networks, and the 1001's that occur in our world.

Cheers,
NC.

[JayXtreme]

Originally Posted by ncmedia

Hey OP, you are promoting/testing my products mate (funnel/brotherhood). If there is anything you'd like me to do in order to help facilitate a final conclusion feel free to reach out.

A few things I'll note as I have 20+ CB publisher accounts and many aff accounts, and an army of aff's also disecting the latest trends. In my opinion and from what I see in my data:

* There has not been an influx of internal sales on any of my popular accounts. If this was the case all publishers %ref. would drop per product, none of mine have dropped.

* I just did tests on two laptops and my main PC in both FF and IE and all worked fine.

* For one of my products, a few weeks back I bought a copy every few days through my own other aff links for two weeks to try to break commission and have not been able to catch them 'red handed' missing my commiss.

* I DO see different affiliates converting now that I haven't seen before to most products, and vice-versa, thus it could be an isolated problem if any

* Will agree that there are a ton of variables that affect every network not just CB which they cannot control.

* I'm doing very well for myself as both aff and pub, as much as I sound like an ass kisser here I wouldn't continue to use them if my numbers were not still up and up.

Usually hate commenting on this type of stuff but felt compelled when I saw this one. I hope you guys dig enough to find a conclusion - as this seems to be a neverending story. Especially those of you that get 1-3 sales a day then dry up. Wait until you're at 30+ a day to really gage your data and market trends, economy, other networks, and the 1001's that occur in our world.

Cheers,
NC.

Thanks for dropping by and giving us some thoughts from your end Norb..

I must get to your forum more dude.. hectic though

Peace

Jay

[Stallion]

Nice to see that "alternative for clickbank" in your sig. My links are working fine.

[rosetrees]

Originally Posted by money2spare

This is starting again. Affiliates, beware. Check your affiliate links. CB is at it again. We must start sending them angry letters, go go go!

Sorry - I didn't spot your post, so started another thread.

I noticed this yesterday too. As I think I said in my thread, the hoplinks are correct, with the correct affiliate name. CB should be reading the hoplinks, not cookies, otherwise what's the point of having your affiliate name in the hoplink!!!

And yes - I did write to CB. Off to look at C2S as I've not heard of them before. Otherwise I'm going to change to Paypal for my own products.