Let Me Show You How I Made $10,000+ In Sales The Last 2 Months

by tijay 33 replies


Let's try this again but in a different format. My first thread got deleted. Let me show you how I made $10,000+ (actual commissions to me were $1,000+) in sales for the last 2 months. I will post questions that I have had in the past when I buy different WSO’s and answer them. Hopefully, this will be a good learning opportunity for those in the forum that have yet to make money in IM.

What was your niche?
My niche was Halloween. All of the sites that I put up were based on costumes, wigs, etc.

Is your system unique? What program did you follow for your system?
My system is not unique. I followed Brain Johnson’s Commission Ritual to produce my results. I am not sure if this product is still for sale or not. If it is, I highly recommend it. If it is not, there is a follow up course called Halloween Super Affiliate. I don’t have that course but if it is anything like Commission Ritual, it is probably worth getting. More info here:

http://www.warriorforum.com/internet...ml#post2293603

The great thing about his course is that I believe it can be implemented for holidays other than Halloween. Also, Brian is a great teacher and breaks everything down clear and to the point.

How many sites did you make?
I made a total of 27 sites but only 17 of the sites produced sales. Of those 17 sites, the range of commissions were from $150+ for the 2 months to $5.

How did you monetize your sites?
Commission Junction.

What did you do to rank your sites?
I used my own small blog network to get the sites initially indexed. Then I used profile links to do the heavy lifting for me.

Did you outsource anything?
Yes, I outsourced just about everything.
1. Content – I used SEO Generals. You can find them on the forum. Top notch company and highly recommended!!!
2. Backlinks – I used Backlinks Philippines. I think they are on the forum. I have used others and Backlinks Philippines in THE BEST IMHO.
3. Site Building – I did this myself.

What platform did you use to build your sites?
All sites were built on the wordpress platform. IMO it’s the fastest and easiest way to build sites.

What wordpress theme did you use?
I use flex squeeze. I pretty sure you can find a discount here on the forum for that. You don’t necessarily need that theme, but it does give you the freedom to easily change the layout and look of your website from an easy to use interface.

What plugins did you use?
1. All in One SEO Pack
2. Contact Form 7
3. Google XML Sitemaps (could never get this to work for me)
4. ILWP Simple Link Cloaker
5. WP Super Cache (I am really not sure why I installed this)

What were your SERPS rankings?
At one point or another, the majority of my sites (80-90%) were all ranked in the top 5. At some point Google pushed some back to the 2nd page, some stayed in the top 5 and some were completely thrown out of the SERPS. I am not sure why this happened but my thought is that the site templates were too similar and Google starts to filter sites like these after a while. I don’t know that for a fact though. Just speculation.

How long did it take for you to rank well in the SERPS?
Not long at all. It took about 3 weeks to a month or so to get many of the sites to top 5 status, with many of the site holding the #1 spot. Some even got a double listing (#1 & #2) before Google took them away. IMO this was directly related to keyword research and the level of competition that was in front of me at the time. You will probably read this over and over on the forum but keyword research is THE MOST IMPORTANT TASK! Get this wrong and your done before you begin.

How many pages of content did you use?
Most sites have 3-4 pages (including the homepage) of unique content and the customary about us, contact us, disclaimer and privacy pages.

How long were the articles?
Most were about 400-500 words.

Other Keyfactors
1. KEYWORDS: I made sure that all the keywords I was targeting were going to be easy to rank for.
a. Made sure the top 1 or 2 spots in the SERPS only had approx. 10 backlinks or less. The less links the better.
b. Made sure there were no top level domains (TLDs) in the top 5 of the SERPS.

2. TRAFFIC: I tried to guestimate using the GAKT if the keyword would get enough traffic to be worth going after. I looked for spikes in traffic on the GAKT for October of last year. Here is a snapshot of a good keyword I would go after:

The bar to the far right is September 2010 and the bar to the far left is October 2009.

3. ONPAGE SEO: This is very important IMO and should not be over looked. I Include the following:
a. A link to the homepage using the main keyword.
b. A link to an inner page containing the main keyword.
c. Title tag containing the main keyword and other relevant keywords.
d. H1 tag containing the main keyword.
e. H2 tag containing the main keyword.
f. First word on the page is the main keyword (the H1 tag).
g. Last word on the page is the main keyword.
h. Links to pages discussing related keywords.


Lessons learned?
1. TAKE ACTION: I am one of those people that want to get everything perfect before I try something. I sit there and plan things out for so long that more often than not, I wind up not doing anything at all. Don’t be like me. Get out there and make your mistakes. It is the only real way that you are going to learn this IM thing. It’s great to get advice from the “gurus” but you will never know for sure if you don’t take action!

2. SLOW DOWN: I have a habit of trying to put up WAY to many sites at once. This time around I think I put up 20 sites first and then tackled the next 7. I was constantly juggling in my mind and trying to keep notes on which sites were already SEO’d, which sites needed more content, which sites needed this and which sites needed that. Next time, I think I will only deal with a hand full of sites at a time. That way I can keep some sort of sanity.

3. KEYWORDS: As everyone has probably noticed now, the GAKT (Google Adwords Keyword Tool) has changed. I would say for the better. Prior to the change it was sort of a crap shoot to figure out how many searches a particular keyword was getting because the numbers were inflated. Now, the numbers seem to be a little more realistic. What I will do is compare the numbers that GAKT gives me now, to the actual visitors that I received for the last 2 months. This will give me a good bench mark to see what keywords I can go after next year (and maybe this Christmas as well).

4. DOMAIN: Don’t get caught up in the exact match domain names. It is a bonus if you have them, but if you don’t you can still get by. I made money with exact match domains and without exact match domains. The key is to make sure your on page SEO and your off page SEO is solid.

Well, I think that is about it but I know I probably left some things out. If you have any questions, ask away. Hopefully I will be able to answer any questions that you may be having that could clear up some confusion and get you on the right path.

~To Your Success
TiJay
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  • Profile picture of the author ADAMw3
    Good post Tijay. Don't see many of these no B.S. posts.
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  • Profile picture of the author StevePatterson
    Great information, first time I have heard of these content and link building services. I will definitely take a look.
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  • Profile picture of the author jbode
    Nice! keep doing what works, why not do the same thing for Christmas... Or evergreen products.

    I see a few people in this thread talking about the negatives... this can't work, how much time & money did you loose (sorry to call you out) but an attitude like that will stop you from taking action, if you do take action your likely to expect poor results (and that's what you'll get because you kept telling yourself this won't work).

    Why not just do it, have a positive attitude about it, if you fail then learn from the process and move on.
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    • Profile picture of the author eiilers
      Originally Posted by jbode View Post

      Nice! keep doing what works, why not do the same thing for Christmas... Or evergreen products.

      I see a few people in this thread talking about the negatives... this can't work, how much time & money did you loose (sorry to call you out) but an attitude like that will stop you from taking action, if you do take action your likely to expect poor results (and that's what you'll get because you kept telling yourself this won't work).

      Why not just do it, have a positive attitude about it, if you fail then learn from the process and move on.
      My thoughts exactly! I think some of the best things that have happened to me in the IM world have been because of failure and learning from my mistakes. Even if he spent $1200 to get all 27 sites done and made $1000, I think the lessons he has learned are WAY more valuable than the $200 he lost... On a side note, if he outsourced properly I doubt he lost anything and is going to rake in next halloween now that he's found something that works.
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    • Profile picture of the author jackieholmes
      Originally Posted by jbode View Post

      Nice! keep doing what works, why not do the same thing for Christmas... Or evergreen products.

      I see a few people in this thread talking about the negatives... this can't work, how much time & money did you loose (sorry to call you out) but an attitude like that will stop you from taking action, if you do take action your likely to expect poor results (and that's what you'll get because you kept telling yourself this won't work).

      Why not just do it, have a positive attitude about it, if you fail then learn from the process and move on.

      I do agree, Tijay is so generous for his post and he really did exert effort just to share those info and points of view. And I also agree to you that it is from failure that we can learn. Having a positive thoughts about things we are aiming to achieve is a factor that leads us to great success, just like me with regards to my view on how to make money online.
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    Yes, this method need not be used just for Halloween, Christmas or any other season, but for specific products that are going to sell for a more typical product lifecycle, like the next 5 years, say. It'll be nice to see what kind of sales you get NEXT Halloween, though, hopefully with no work at all

    By the way, how did you use Flex Squeeze for selling tangible products (Halloween wigs!)? All those sales page extensions for Wordpress (Spire, Sales Engine etc.) seem to be more suitable for making sales letters and squeeze pages, not so much for above-the-fold affiliate product-type pages? I have a number of niche sites, but I still think they could be performing better with decent templates, say that simulate an online store, something like that. So I would be interested in seeing how you use Flex for those kinds of page.
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  • Profile picture of the author topskyca
    You share, others learn, that's the spirit of Internet, isn't it?

    However, I guarantee people won't value your tips too much since you give away for free, let alone taking actions. They may feel the same stuff more valuable had they purchased a WSO or clickbank product.
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    • Profile picture of the author pauley13
      Thanks for that post TiJay. I would have LOVED to come across something exactly like that, step by step, dry, fast, no BS, when I was starting out. Even now many of the things you mentioned made me go "a-ha...!"
      Very cool.
      There are HUNDREDS - thousands probably - of methods and systems out there, and then take that and multiply this by the number of individual personalities. Your approach is very similar to mine. I too tend to spend way too much time trying to get it right. But the positive results I ever achieve are the ones when I just go for it.
      Some of the ppl commenting here must have had some really bad, bitter experiences for them to be so negative to your excellent post.
      Everything is education, though - even those negative posts.
      Best of luck
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    • Profile picture of the author J Bold
      Originally Posted by topskyca View Post

      You share, others learn, that's the spirit of Internet, isn't it?

      However, I guarantee people won't value your tips too much since you give away for free, let alone taking actions. They may feel the same stuff more valuable had they purchased a WSO or clickbank product.
      You may be right, but some of the best info on this forum can be found for free.

      Usually free information will leave something out, but I've seen plenty of WSOs that leave something out, too.

      Whatever happens, just try for yourself. You've got to do something to succeed. Money doesn't grow on trees.
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    • Profile picture of the author inter123
      Its great $1000+ was made in commission but as the work was outsourced, curious to know what the profit margins were and the amount of time spend on managing and creating the sites.
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      Originally Posted by topskyca View Post

      You share, others learn, that's the spirit of Internet, isn't it?

      However, I guarantee people won't value your tips too much since you give away for free, let alone taking actions. They may feel the same stuff more valuable had they purchased a WSO or clickbank product.
      Excuse my ignorance but I assume you ignore all the free stuff in the War Room to?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
    Here's the real $$$ breakdown.

    You earned $1000.
    You built 27 sites.
    Of those, 17 made money.

    With these stats....you're averaging $37 per site.
    That sounds really good.

    BUT...

    1. Content – I used SEO Generals. You can find them on the forum. Top notch company and highly recommended!!!
    2. Backlinks – I used Backlinks Philippines. I think they are on the forum. I have used others and Backlinks Philippines in THE BEST IMHO.
    3. Site Building – I did this myself.
    AND...

    Most sites have 3-4 pages (including the homepage) of unique content and the customary about us, contact us, disclaimer and privacy pages.

    How long were the articles?
    Most were about 400-500 words.
    That Means...

    1. 81 Unique, 400 word articles cost $314.28.
    2. The cheapest backlink package is 40 for $16.00.
    3. You did the site building yourself. I'm assuming it took around 1 hr to setup each site. But I'll use 30 minutes. You spent a total of 13.5 hours setting up the sites. There's an opportunity cost involved here...but I'll skip that for now.

    $1000 - $314.28 (Articles) - $16 (Backlinks) = $669.72 Total Profit.

    What I don't know, is how long managing and assembling these sites took.

    If you spent 10 hours managing and 13.5 hours building, then you earned $28/hr.
    If you spent 10 hours managing and 27 hours building, then you earned $18/hr.

    Also, if you spent more on backlinks, articles and site-building time than I estimated, then you actually earned even less per hour. I suspect you're really in the $15-$20/hr range, though. (I'm assuming you're a Wordpress rocket builder, here.)

    That's admirable! Just remember keeping these sites ranking will continue to cost money and time. Plus, your earnings are about to die in 4 days. But there's always Christmas....and Easter...and Valentines Day, etc.

    Going forward, you should work on keyword research...those 10 losers really cut into your earnings. You could have been building 10 winners instead and nearly doubling your earnings.

    Also, step out of the site creation role. If you outsourced the blog building at $10/hr, you'd spend $270....but you would get 27 more hours to research more sites and launch more properties.

    Scale, baby. A good start IMHO.

    P.S. Sorry about the last thread...but rules are rules.
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    • Profile picture of the author BarryOnline
      Originally Posted by Jesus Perez View Post

      Here's the real $$$ breakdown.

      You earned $1000.
      You built 27 sites.
      Of those, 17 made money.

      With these stats....you're averaging $37 per site.
      That sounds really good.

      BUT...

      AND...

      That Means...

      1. 81 Unique, 400 word articles cost $314.28.
      2. The cheapest backlink package is 40 for $16.00.
      3. You did the site building yourself. I'm assuming it took around 1 hr to setup each site. But I'll use 30 minutes. You spent a total of 13.5 hours setting up the sites. There's an opportunity cost involved here...but I'll skip that for now.

      $1000 - $314.28 (Articles) - $16 (Backlinks) = $669.72 Total Profit.

      What I don't know, is how long managing and assembling these sites took.
      If you spent 10 hours managing and 13.5 hours building, then you earned $28/hr.
      If you spent 10 hours managing and 27 hours building, then you earned $18/hr.

      Also, if you spent more on backlinks, articles and site-building time than I estimated, then you actually earned even less per hour. I suspect you're really in the $15-$20/hr range, though. (I'm assuming you're a Wordpress rocket builder, here.)

      That's admirable! Just remember keeping these sites ranking will continue to cost money and time. Plus, your earnings are about to die in 4 days. But there's always Christmas....and Easter...and Valentines Day, etc.

      Going forward, you should work on keyword research...those 10 losers really cut into your earnings. You could have been building 10 winners instead and nearly doubling your earnings.

      Also, step out of the site creation role. If you outsourced the blog building at $10/hr, you'd spend $270....but you would get 27 more hours to research more sites and launch more properties.

      Scale, baby. A good start IMHO.

      P.S. Sorry about the last thread...but rules are rules.
      Cost for 27 domains too?
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  • Profile picture of the author tijay
    Originally Posted by AFI View Post

    Why am I starting to seriously doubt threads like these? No offense, OP.
    LOL! Not sure why. I am just trying to give back. Nothing to sell here, not looing for opt ins. I just want to help some folks out if I can.

    Originally Posted by Adam Bshero View Post

    Good post Tijay. Don't see many of these no B.S. posts.
    Thanks Adam!

    Originally Posted by Richard Odell View Post

    How much time and money did you lose on the other ten?

    Seems like shotgun tactics to me?

    It would it have better to have refined one first, then launch the other 27?
    It's hard to say but let's say each site had 4 articles on them. $5 * $40 = $200. Add another $100 for registration fees and that is $300. I really can't say how much was spent on the SEO because it was a combined effort. It was definitely shotgun tactics and that is why I said the next time I work on sites I am going to only work on a hand full first.

    Originally Posted by StevePatterson View Post

    Great information, first time I have heard of these content and link building services. I will definitely take a look.
    Thanks! Glad I could help.

    Originally Posted by jbode View Post

    Nice! keep doing what works, why not do the same thing for Christmas... Or evergreen products.

    I see a few people in this thread talking about the negatives... this can't work, how much time & money did you loose (sorry to call you out) but an attitude like that will stop you from taking action, if you do take action your likely to expect poor results (and that's what you'll get because you kept telling yourself this won't work).

    Why not just do it, have a positive attitude about it, if you fail then learn from the process and move on.
    I do plan on doing this same thing for Christmas. Great points!
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  • Profile picture of the author GenerousBoy
    USeful little case study. I liked the way you set it out with Q&A.
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  • Profile picture of the author tijay
    Originally Posted by markowe View Post

    Yes, this method need not be used just for Halloween, Christmas or any other season, but for specific products that are going to sell for a more typical product lifecycle, like the next 5 years, say. It'll be nice to see what kind of sales you get NEXT Halloween, though, hopefully with no work at all

    By the way, how did you use Flex Squeeze for selling tangible products (Halloween wigs!)? All those sales page extensions for Wordpress (Spire, Sales Engine etc.) seem to be more suitable for making sales letters and squeeze pages, not so much for above-the-fold affiliate product-type pages? I have a number of niche sites, but I still think they could be performing better with decent templates, say that simulate an online store, something like that. So I would be interested in seeing how you use Flex for those kinds of page.
    I definitely think this is a stepping stone for next Halloween. I haven't been so succeeful with "regular products" outside of the Halloween niche. Hopefully, I can get good at this as well. Flex squeeze actually strips down pretty nicely so that it looks like a regular site. If I get some time, maybe I put up a youtube video or something.

    Originally Posted by eiilers View Post

    My thoughts exactly! I think some of the best things that have happened to me in the IM world have been because of failure and learning from my mistakes. Even if he spent $1200 to get all 27 sites done and made $1000, I think the lessons he has learned are WAY more valuable than the $200 he lost... On a side note, if he outsourced properly I doubt he lost anything and is going to rake in next halloween now that he's found something that works.
    I had some mistakes this go round. Of the last 7 sites, only 6 of them earned anything lol. But like you said, now I know. Sometimes you need to make those mistakes in order to know what not do do. Thanks!

    Originally Posted by topskyca View Post

    You share, others learn, that's the spirit of Internet, isn't it?

    However, I guarantee people won't value your tips too much since you give away for free, let alone taking actions. They may feel the same stuff more valuable had they purchased a WSO or clickbank product.
    I hear you. Hopefully this is not the case though.

    Originally Posted by pauley13 View Post

    Thanks for that post TiJay. I would have LOVED to come across something exactly like that, step by step, dry, fast, no BS, when I was starting out. Even now many of the things you mentioned made me go "a-ha...!"
    Very cool.
    There are HUNDREDS - thousands probably - of methods and systems out there, and then take that and multiply this by the number of individual personalities. Your approach is very similar to mine. I too tend to spend way too much time trying to get it right. But the positive results I ever achieve are the ones when I just go for it.
    Some of the ppl commenting here must have had some really bad, bitter experiences for them to be so negative to your excellent post.
    Everything is education, though - even those negative posts.
    Best of luck
    paul
    Thanks for the kind words.

    Originally Posted by redicelander View Post

    You may be right, but some of the best info on this forum can be found for free.

    Usually free information will leave something out, but I've seen plenty of WSOs that leave something out, too.

    Whatever happens, just try for yourself. You've got to do something to succeed. Money doesn't grow on trees.
    This forum has tons of free info, stuff that has really helped me out over the years. Just wanted to contribute. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author IMBT
    Success.....begets.....Success.

    You can always continue to refine your methods and
    develop other areas...

    Good job..
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Originally Posted by AFI View Post

    Why am I starting to seriously doubt threads like these? No offense, OP.
    Your real question is why is he telling you this perhaps...

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    Because there are lessons to be learned...

    AND

    Halloween is only 4 days away, so we won't be able to jump into his marketplace and compete with him until next year... And chances are we will forget the details by then...

    AND

    He might be able to get us thinking about buying Halloween stuff at the last minute, and we might Google and find his sites, leading to a few more sales...

    AND

    Smart if you ask me, and very generous if you ask me too, because I might come back to this page next summer...
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  • Profile picture of the author tijay
    Originally Posted by inter123 View Post

    Its great $1000+ was made in commission but as the work was outsourced, curious to know what the profit margins were and the amount of time spend on managing and creating the sites.
    Valid question. I don't know exactly (another mistake on my part that I need to learn from) but I can ball park it. 27 * $10 = $270 for registration. 27 * 3 * $5 = $405 for articles. This may have been a bit more because some sites have 3 articles and some sites have 4 articles. Some articles were 400 words and some were 500 words. I think I paid about $200 for backlinks for everything. Let's call it $900. So it looks like I am at about $100 in profit at the moment. Not great by any stretch of the imagination, but not bad either. It's a learning process like everyone has been reiterating. Thanks for the question.

    Originally Posted by Jesus Perez View Post

    Here's the real $$$ breakdown.

    You earned $1000.
    You built 27 sites.
    Of those, 17 made money.

    With these stats....you're averaging $37 per site.
    That sounds really good.

    BUT...

    AND...

    That Means...

    1. 81 Unique, 400 word articles cost $314.28.
    2. The cheapest backlink package is 40 for $16.00.
    3. You did the site building yourself. I'm assuming it took around 1 hr to setup each site. But I'll use 30 minutes. You spent a total of 13.5 hours setting up the sites. There's an opportunity cost involved here...but I'll skip that for now.

    $1000 - $314.28 (Articles) - $16 (Backlinks) = $669.72 Total Profit.

    What I don't know, is how long managing and assembling these sites took.
    If you spent 10 hours managing and 13.5 hours building, then you earned $28/hr.
    If you spent 10 hours managing and 27 hours building, then you earned $18/hr.

    Also, if you spent more on backlinks, articles and site-building time than I estimated, then you actually earned even less per hour. I suspect you're really in the $15-$20/hr range, though. (I'm assuming you're a Wordpress rocket builder, here.)

    That's admirable! Just remember keeping these sites ranking will continue to cost money and time. Plus, your earnings are about to die in 4 days. But there's always Christmas....and Easter...and Valentines Day, etc.

    Going forward, you should work on keyword research...those 10 losers really cut into your earnings. You could have been building 10 winners instead and nearly doubling your earnings.

    Also, step out of the site creation role. If you outsourced the blog building at $10/hr, you'd spend $270....but you would get 27 more hours to research more sites and launch more properties.

    Scale, baby. A good start IMHO.

    P.S. Sorry about the last thread...but rules are rules.
    Sheesh, I could have gotten good backlinks for $16, lol. Looks like I did a little worst than your estimate, but no worries. I'll do better next time. I think it took about 30 minutes to an hour to build one blog. I bought a wordpress cloning system last year that saves a bunch of time. Thanks for your advice too. Great stuff. No prob about the thread. I didn't know so that's my fault.

    Originally Posted by GenerousBoy View Post

    USeful little case study. I liked the way you set it out with Q&A.
    Thanks! Hope it helped.
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  • Profile picture of the author MWGrubb58
    Good thread with lots of in the trenches info.

    However, it seems like a LOT of work for $1000.

    I would imagine that as your refine things, you'll make more and more money!
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      Originally Posted by MWGrubb58 View Post

      Good thread with lots of in the trenches info.

      However, it seems like a LOT of work for $1000.
      And even worse for $100.00.
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  • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
    Hi Tijay,

    Well, you're to be commended for such a task. Right now, it doesn't
    matter a whole lot if you're relatively new and your net could have
    been higher for whatever reason.

    You made money, and most importantly, you got a lot of valuable
    experience. The more you do this, the better and more efficient you
    will become. You'll learn from your mistakes, refine your overall process,
    and your net will improve.

    Plus, you can take your knowledge and experience and apply it in other
    ways that will become even more profitable.

    Also, you did a helluva lot more than many people are willing to do. So,
    in my opinion, this was a total success and you should feel really good
    about it.

    You may also want to explore selling items with a higher profit margin
    at some point. You can do that because you've proven to yourself that
    you can market and sell plus get all the steps right in between.

    You're looking pretty good. Just keep moving forward.

    Best regards,

    Ken
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  • Profile picture of the author tijay
    Originally Posted by IMBT View Post

    Success.....begets.....Success.

    You can always continue to refine your methods and
    develop other areas...

    Good job..
    Thanks.

    Originally Posted by tpw View Post

    Your real question is why is he telling you this perhaps...

    ===

    Because there are lessons to be learned...

    AND

    Halloween is only 4 days away, so we won't be able to jump into his marketplace and compete with him until next year... And chances are we will forget the details by then...

    AND

    He might be able to get us thinking about buying Halloween stuff at the last minute, and we might Google and find his sites, leading to a few more sales...

    AND

    Smart if you ask me, and very generous if you ask me too, because I might come back to this page next summer...
    Well, it's not necessarily my market place. Really Brian Johnson is the guru for the Halloween stuff. Hopefully you do come back to this thread next summer.

    Originally Posted by MWGrubb58 View Post

    Good thread with lots of in the trenches info.

    However, it seems like a LOT of work for $1000.

    I would imagine that as your refine things, you'll make more and more money!
    Yeah, your probably right. Next time less sites, with a focus on higher traffic.

    Originally Posted by KenThompson View Post

    Hi Tijay,

    Well, you're to be commended for such a task. Right now, it doesn't
    matter a whole lot if you're relatively new and your net could have
    been higher for whatever reason.

    You made money, and most importantly, you got a lot of valuable
    experience. The more you do this, the better and more efficient you
    will become. You'll learn from your mistakes, refine your overall process,
    and your net will improve.

    Plus, you can take your knowledge and experience and apply it in other
    ways that will become even more profitable.

    Also, you did a helluva lot more than many people are willing to do. So,
    in my opinion, this was a total success and you should feel really good
    about it.

    You may also want to explore selling items with a higher profit margin
    at some point. You can do that because you've proven to yourself that
    you can market and sell plus get all the steps right in between.

    You're looking pretty good. Just keep moving forward.

    Best regards,

    Ken
    Thanks for the kind words and advice.

    Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat View Post

    And even worse for $100.00.
    With this experience, next time the profit will definitely be higher. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
    Nice thread. Thanks for posting.

    Looks to me like the profit is a lot more than $100....

    Some of these sites will continue to make money. Amazing how Halloween sites earn some bucks year round (or at least until the CJ merchants deactivate during their slow months).

    More importantly, you learned a lot.

    Hopefully, an inkling as to why Google drop-kicked some sites.

    Possibly you have search data that will let you target even better keywords.

    You're closer to have a more profitable system in place.

    And what the heck, a hundred bucks is a hundred bucks. Forget the per hour stuff. Would you rather work in a cubicle for a jerk boss at $20 an hour, or put up Halloween sites for a little less? That freedom is worth something (as long as it still puts food on the table). You could have been watching TV, but instead set aside the time and made some money.
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  • Profile picture of the author EvolBaby
    Great tips but all that work for $1k ???

    Looks like I've been doing the right thing making more writing and cartooning but your formula has some great tips in it applicable to other models.
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    Copywriting/Article Writing at $2 per 100 words! Cartoons, Comics, T-Shirt Designs!
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  • Profile picture of the author ThrillerAuthor
    This is a great post showing us that things can work.

    And we need to keep in mind that most of the costs involved were once-off costs, like the article writing and link-building. The recurring costs (domains and hosting) is not going to eat up that much profit. The sales commission for the sales to follow is going to be pure profit. And next time round these sites will be well established and perhaps with some more back-linking, will do really well in the SERPS.
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  • Profile picture of the author brendawyles
    This is really awesome Tijay.... Hope I can also make that same figure or much more someday.... It may hard to believe but yes, it is also possible. Good luck to all of us who look forward of gaining the same success.
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    • Profile picture of the author EdgeStorm
      Excellent post and congrats to you Tijay!

      This post is inspirational to me and definitely for most of us. The best part is you only use Commission Junction to achieve this success, contrary to what many people say about the network being dead in order to make a killing with affiliate commissions alone.

      Once again thanks a lot for sharing. I'm now looking into ways to promote using Commission Junction.

      All the best!
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  • Profile picture of the author dejurs2000
    I enjoy this thread, some ppl consider the cost vs money makes. But to me at least it gives new idea.

    I like the concept of going for unique niches. The number might be small, but still plenty of potential visitors. Combined with good SEO and Link Build up this can be a good way to find small market (consider small shops, in Tijay's case.... 37 small shops).

    The best thing from this is the list build up. When you make money selling on these niches.... no matter how big or small... you just grow your list of potential customers for the next project.

    Thanks for sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sabrina178
    I'm sure you have one or two for Christmas too
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  • Profile picture of the author MWGrubb58
    Kindsvater made a good point...

    Working for yourself, as long as money is coming in, is far better than sitting somewhere in an office working for someone you hate... Or doing something you hate, just for the money.

    Your mind can relax and work much better in a place like home.

    Keep going and you'll make more and more and more.
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  • Profile picture of the author tijay
    Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

    Nice thread. Thanks for posting.

    Looks to me like the profit is a lot more than $100....

    Some of these sites will continue to make money. Amazing how Halloween sites earn some bucks year round (or at least until the CJ merchants deactivate during their slow months).

    More importantly, you learned a lot.

    Hopefully, an inkling as to why Google drop-kicked some sites.

    Possibly you have search data that will let you target even better keywords.

    You're closer to have a more profitable system in place.

    And what the heck, a hundred bucks is a hundred bucks. Forget the per hour stuff. Would you rather work in a cubicle for a jerk boss at $20 an hour, or put up Halloween sites for a little less? That freedom is worth something (as long as it still puts food on the table). You could have been watching TV, but instead set aside the time and made some money.
    Thanks! Yeah, hopefully I can figure out why some sites got booted. My thought is that if many of the sites held their #1 sopt and in some cases the #1 and #2 spots, I would have earned more.

    Originally Posted by EvolBaby View Post

    Great tips but all that work for $1k ???

    Looks like I've been doing the right thing making more writing and cartooning but your formula has some great tips in it applicable to other models.
    Well, hopefully the 1K or $100 is just the beginning. We all gotta start somewhere right?

    Originally Posted by jackieholmes View Post

    I do agree, Tijay is so generous for his post and he really did exert effort just to share those info and points of view. And I also agree to you that it is from failure that we can learn. Having a positive thoughts about things we are aiming to achieve is a factor that leads us to great success, just like me with regards to my view on how to make money online.
    Thanks! Hopefully there were some good nuggets in their somewhere.

    Originally Posted by ThrillerAuthor View Post

    This is a great post showing us that things can work.

    And we need to keep in mind that most of the costs involved were once-off costs, like the article writing and link-building. The recurring costs (domains and hosting) is not going to eat up that much profit. The sales commission for the sales to follow is going to be pure profit. And next time round these sites will be well established and perhaps with some more back-linking, will do really well in the SERPS.
    Thanks Thriller. That is what I was thinking. The next time around hopefully these sites need no work in order to get them earning. Maybe I should update this thread again next year.

    Originally Posted by brendawyles View Post

    This is really awesome Tijay.... Hope I can also make that same figure or much more someday.... It may hard to believe but yes, it is also possible. Good luck to all of us who look forward of gaining the same success.
    Thanks! Hopefully, I am not too far away from someday

    Originally Posted by EdgeStorm View Post

    Excellent post and congrats to you Tijay!

    This post is inspirational to me and definitely for most of us. The best part is you only use Commission Junction to achieve this success, contrary to what many people say about the network being dead in order to make a killing with affiliate commissions alone.

    Once again thanks a lot for sharing. I'm now looking into ways to promote using Commission Junction.

    All the best!
    Thanks for the kind words Edge.

    Originally Posted by dejurs2000 View Post

    I enjoy this thread, some ppl consider the cost vs money makes. But to me at least it gives new idea.

    I like the concept of going for unique niches. The number might be small, but still plenty of potential visitors. Combined with good SEO and Link Build up this can be a good way to find small market (consider small shops, in Tijay's case.... 37 small shops).

    The best thing from this is the list build up. When you make money selling on these niches.... no matter how big or small... you just grow your list of potential customers for the next project.

    Thanks for sharing.
    Excellent points. I really should be focusing on building list in this niche as well.

    Originally Posted by Sabrina178 View Post

    I'm sure you have one or two for Christmas too
    Definitely have a few christmas niches in mind.

    Originally Posted by MWGrubb58 View Post

    Kindsvater made a good point...

    Working for yourself, as long as money is coming in, is far better than sitting somewhere in an office working for someone you hate... Or doing something you hate, just for the money.

    Your mind can relax and work much better in a place like home.

    Keep going and you'll make more and more and more.
    That's the dream Grubb. One day I won't have to go to work and sneak while I put this long post together I'll be doing it from my dining room table. I'll get there soon enough. Thanks!
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