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Why Keep Posting On A post When The Person Who Posted Wont Read Or Respond

by petevamp
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Ok I am sorry for how this is going to sound. Stop Posting and bumping a post up the poster could really care less about.

I understand how and why it keeps getting bumped because most up us who go in to provide a pieces of advice do just that. We read the very first post then do a quick scroll down to the bottom and add are 2 cents really fast. Then we might after making are post read a few of the other post there.

Once we finally go through a few of them you see that the original poster has not come in and replied since he posted it. However many keep asking them a question such as what are you doing and do you know why it isnt working. Something along those lines any how.

Now I am going to point out this post just because I am sick of seeing it on the top of the page. The post is by ibelieve With the title Frustrated!!!!

Now he cam in asking for help because he states he has been doing im for 12 years with minimal success and no earnings. Now how the heck do you have success with no earnings. No I asked him pretty much my exact words above. What was he doing. What has he tried. A few others as well. But I made sure to ask him those questions. This was 4 hours ago and still no responce.

Now as far as I know he posted and will never be back again. He just wanted to ask something and not receive a response or help from anyone.

THIS IS WHY YOU FAIL

If you are going to ask for help then you better be prepared to accept it to. If someone trying to help you ask you a very very very simple question give them a response back and show them you do want help and are not here to just cry about how you have had no success at making money but you have had some success with im.

Now for those who keep bumping that thread please stop I am tired of looking at it until he shows some kind of initative to take the help that has already been presented to him.
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  • Profile picture of the author Trivum
    I'd say give the guy some time - 4 hours is not the same as 4 years. People have things to do sometimes other than be here every minute of the day.

    In any case, many more others learn from the responses to original posts. So whether the original poster ever comes back to his/her post doesn't mean it isn't adding value to the forum.
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    • Profile picture of the author petevamp
      Originally Posted by Trivum View Post

      I'd say give the guy some time - 4 hours is not the same as 4 years. People have things to do sometimes other than be here every minute of the day.

      In any case, many more others learn from the responses to original posts. So whether the original poster ever comes back to his/her post doesn't mean it isn't adding value to the forum.
      For one if I post something here at this forum that is question related. You better believe I am going to stay here for atleast a few minutes. For people act fast here on this forum and your questions will get answered fast. Some times they may not be the best answers but you know you are going to get a good answer or two with in a few minutes.
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  • Profile picture of the author jackieholmes
    I was then struck about your post and I started asking myself why is it so... But then I just came to realize that every person has their own reason for doing such things. Maybe they just want to gain many opinions as possible from other persons point of view before making a move.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
      This forum runs 24/7/365.

      Are you expecting folks to hang out all day so your questions get answered? Maybe he had a job to go to. Maybe he sleeps different hours than you do.

      You need to get a grip. Rants like this thread will kill your credibility here faster than you ever thought possible.

      Now for those who keep bumping that thread please stop I am tired of looking at it until he shows some kind of initative to take the help that has already been presented to him.
      Really?

      How did this forum ever get along in the past without your watchfulness?

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      • Profile picture of the author petevamp
        Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

        This forum runs 24/7/365.

        Are you expecting folks to hang out all day so your questions get answered? Maybe he had a job to go to. Maybe he sleeps different hours than you do.

        You need to get a grip. Rants like this thread will kill your credibility here faster than you ever thought possible.



        Really?

        How did this forum ever get along in the past without your watchfulness?

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        I know what you are saying bill but if I am going to ask a question I am atleast going to wait a few minutes to see if it gets a responce. Now look at the time of the post and look at the very first response. It was made with the post being less then 5 minutes old. If they can not stick around for atleast 5 minutes then dont post it wait till you have the time to fully digest what people are say who are willing to help you in any way possible.

        I didnt come around here for almost a year so I know the forum gets by just fine. I was taking a break and thought I would come help a few others out.

        But you have to understand it gets frustrating to see people come in here asking for help and then not come back in and even read the responses and or reply to any of them.

        If you read his post he starts it off with the word UPLINE this tells me that he is using traffic exchanges which is why he is not making any money from his work. So I am willing to bet that he came here posted the thread and went right back to surf for 10 hours at a traffic exchange.

        So if what you were doing before is not working and you want to know how to fix the problem by asking then be ready to wait for the proper advice. Do not just ask for help and continue doing what you already know doesn't work.

        I know it comes off bad as I said in the begining of this thread. But it is hard to sit calm when some one who wants help by asking for it but then when it is handed to them on a silver platter not willing to follow through. This is why 95% of immers fail. The lack of follow through is a killer.
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        • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
          Originally Posted by petevamp View Post

          If you read his post he starts it off with the word UPLINE ...
          If it helps you out any, the thread you responded to was the second exact same thread that he posted earlier that got deleted.

          How about them apples.

          I posted a rather lengthy response to that thread only to watch it get nuked because he had affiliate links in his sig.

          Here's the bottom line...sh*t happens.

          What you want to do is to keep your composure and r e l a x while you're on the forum. I wasn't kidding about threads like this making the OP look like a spoiled brat on a playground. It's just not a good practice to openly admit you allow little things like this to make you come unglued. Who wants to do business with someone like that?

          Not me. Been there done that and it's flat out no fun.

          Now let's see if we can remember this is a marketing forum and try and stay cool, calm, and collected while we're here.

          Maybe Santa will put us on the 'good' list.

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        • Profile picture of the author Matthew Shane Roe
          Originally Posted by petevamp View Post

          I know what you are saying bill but if I am going to ask a question I am atleast going to wait a few minutes to see if it gets a responce. Now look at the time of the post and look at the very first response. It was made with the post being less then 5 minutes old. If they can not stick around for atleast 5 minutes then dont post it wait till you have the time to fully digest what people are say who are willing to help you in any way possible.

          I didnt come around here for almost a year so I know the forum gets by just fine. I was taking a break and thought I would come help a few others out.

          But you have to understand it gets frustrating to see people come in here asking for help and then not come back in and even read the responses and or reply to any of them.

          If you read his post he starts it off with the word UPLINE this tells me that he is using traffic exchanges which is why he is not making any money from his work. So I am willing to bet that he came here posted the thread and went right back to surf for 10 hours at a traffic exchange.

          So if what you were doing before is not working and you want to know how to fix the problem by asking then be ready to wait for the proper advice. Do not just ask for help and continue doing what you already know doesn't work.

          I know it comes off bad as I said in the begining of this thread. But it is hard to sit calm when some one who wants help by asking for it but then when it is handed to them on a silver platter not willing to follow through. This is why 95% of immers fail. The lack of follow through is a killer.

          Just because he say's "Upline" doesn't mean anything about traffic exchanges. I can almost guarantee you that he is talking about an upline in MLM simply because he mentions Direct Marketing.

          As for traffic exchanges being a bad thing, how often do you use them enough to know? Personally I have an upgraded account at two different traffic exchanges and both of them bring in danm near 15-20 different optins a week. Not bad for a virtually auto pilot traffic.

          As for the orgional post, I bet you won't even reply t this message until later on tomorrow . Why do I think this? Because where I am it's 4am and I am sure your lying in bed sleeping like the member IBelieve maybe doing as well.. This is a forum where people around the world participate in the talk and discussion. The time a thread was posted doesn't mean anything in reality considering in our profile we choose OUR OWN times zones. That would mean that any thread or post put up in this forum will have our time and not the warriors time who posts it or even replies to one.


          As for me, I will post things right before I go to bed and then handle them in the morning when it's just a simple post asking for help. However, if I was to open up a WSO I can guarntee you that I would wait around. Why? Because some things require you to be around as soon as it goes live, and some things don't. A normal thread asking for advice doesn't require you to be around RIGHT AFTER you post it.

          This reply itself is one being posted right before bed actually, so... Let's see how many replies this post will get in my absense, should we?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jillycakes
    Like Trivium said, it's most likely that the original poster made his post and walked away from the forums. Most forums don't move as quickly as this one, so sometimes people have to wait hours (or even days) before seeing a response.

    With some threads, rude replies or feelings of embarrassment keep an OP from coming back too. I haven't seen it here at WF yet, but some forums can be brutal. Asking what's perceived as a stupid question and getting reamed for it may be enough to send someone looking for information elsewhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sonomacats
    Sorry to disagree, but I've lost count of the times I've posted a question and waited in vain for a response.

    Now if I do post a question, I keep moving on with my business because I do have other things to do. If there's a response, it will show up in my eMail and I can come back when it's convenient for me. Which isn't always immediately. I usually do have a full time job and a long commute, not to mention my IM work to do on top of everything else.

    Yes, it's unfortunate that some OPs never come back, but most of them do eventually. And other people on the forum who are responding are getting something out of the OP, so it's really no big deal if the OP doesn't return.

    And if he doesn't, it's his loss.

    And as to getting sick of certain threads (and not just the one you're referring to), it's sort of like watching TV. If there's something on that you aren't interested in, don't watch it!
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  • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
    Pete while we are on Rants (for lack of a better word) I think it was Paulie888 who once said that reading a thread is the cost of participation.

    I know often threads are extremely long etc... but to just read the OP and then reply before reading the whole thing, or at least skimming it, leads to duplicated advice and often missing the actual point.

    So i personally do not like it when people just read the OP and then scroll down and respond. ( Not a Rant though )


    Originally Posted by petevamp View Post

    We read the very first post then do a quick scroll down to the bottom and add are 2 cents really fast. Then we might after making are post read a few of the other post there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sonomacats
    I completely agree. It's one of my pet peeves, as well.

    Especially when someone asks a question that's already been answered two pages earlier.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    It makes no difference whether the OP reads it or responds to it if it has inspired an interesting discussion. Forums aren't just a conversation with one person. They are a conversation with many people so if one drops out, who cares?

    In addition, if there's good advice in the thread, it may help other people.
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    • Profile picture of the author EdgeStorm
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      It makes no difference whether the OP reads it or responds to it if it has inspired an interesting discussion. Forums aren't just a conversation with one person. They are a conversation with many people so if one drops out, who cares?

      In addition, if there's good advice in the thread, it may help other people.
      Right on the nail.. the thread may still be beneficial to the rest.

      But sometimes we can spot if the replier is doing that for the sake of increasing his post counts. For such cases, of course we should all be frustrated.
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        [QUOTE: Petevamp:I understand how and why it keeps getting bumped because most up us who go in to provide a pieces of advice do just that. We read the very first post then do a quick scroll down to the bottom and add are 2 cents really fast. Then we might after making are post read a few of the other post there]

        Sorry Pete but actually what you do really annoys me, why don't you just read the thread, that way you'll realise half the forums already left the same 2 cents worth you did and the question was answered ages before. So you're bumping an already finished thread by reading the OP and just commenting without reading what others have already said.
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    • Profile picture of the author petevamp
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      In addition, if there's good advice in the thread, it may help other people.
      You make a really good point but in this particular case it would have helped if he would have just can in and said what he was doing but I also believe it was some sorta of ploy as to a spam post. As bill above said he posted it twice the original got nuked because of an affiliate link.

      Which would bring me again to why keep bumping a post up when you realize that is all it is.
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by petevamp View Post

        You make a really good point but in this particular case it would have helped if he would have just can in and said what he was doing but I also believe it was some sorta of ploy as to a spam post. As bill above said he posted it twice the original got nuked because of an affiliate link.

        Which would bring me again to why keep bumping a post up when you realize that is all it is.
        If a mod hasn't deleted that thread, anyone who wants to respond to it can. This thread is actually more worthless, being that the worth of the other thread is only your opinion and this is just a "bitch" thread. Not much point to it at all, but here it is ... getting bumped once again.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Pete, I understand where you're coming from, but one of the big advantages of a forum like this is its asynchronous nature. If I post a question, I don't sit there hitting the refresh button to see if I have an answer.

        As long as we're venting a little, let's mention the other side of the coin. I've seen several threads lately where someone will post a question, and then start in with 'anyone here' type comments a few minutes later. Some even have the temerity to get annoyed at the fact that people haven't jumped to answer their question within minutes.

        We can all save a lot of gray hairs (except maybe Zeus and Mr. Cueball ) if we simply stay calm and exercise a little patience...
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        • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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          Now for those who keep bumping that thread please stop I am tired of looking at it until he shows some kind of initative to take the help that has already been presented to him.
          Then don't look at it. Seriously, if you're so bent out of shape over this, who is the one with issues here?
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        • Profile picture of the author mcmahanusa
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          Pete, I understand where you're coming from, but one of the big advantages of a forum like this is its asynchronous nature. If I post a question, I don't sit there hitting the refresh button to see if I have an answer.

          As long as we're venting a little, let's mention the other side of the coin. I've seen several threads lately where someone will post a question, and then start in with 'anyone here' type comments a few minutes later. Some even have the temerity to get annoyed at the fact that people haven't jumped to answer their question within minutes.

          We can all save a lot of gray hairs (except maybe Zeus and Mr. Cueball ) if we simply stay calm and exercise a little patience...
          Hooray for you, John. We all get irritated by something from time to time, whether reasonable or not, and the willingness to develop patience can reduce those irritations to a minimum.

          I'm amused (a little saddened, too) to read a number of responses wherein someone reaches conclusions - sometime angry ones - about the motivation or thinking of an OP.

          On a personal note, I've sometimes posted a question that failed to get a prompt response, so I just went about my business, checking randomly, and when someone posted a response to my original question, I would respond in turn. The fact that this sometimes took me awhile does not mean that I was lacking in the sincerity of my post, just that life had its own demands of me.
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  • Profile picture of the author brendawyles
    Originally Posted by petevamp View Post

    THIS IS WHY YOU FAIL

    If you are going to ask for help then you better be prepared to accept it to. If someone trying to help you ask you a very very very simple question give them a response back and show them you do want help and are not here to just cry about how you have had no success at making money but you have had some success with im.

    Now for those who keep bumping that thread please stop I am tired of looking at it until he shows some kind of initative to take the help that has already been presented to him.
    You're right. Asking for somebody's help takes a lot of courage to say, then why refuse to accept help then...
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    Here's the thing!

    I am running a five figure business every month,
    I go to college,
    I pick up and drop off my younger brothers to school,
    I am helping my parents at the gas station they own,
    I play video games,
    I go away for emergencies,
    etc.

    I can keep typing all day long without running out of "tasks"

    Simply put, I have a life outside of this forum and that's why I am not here all the times.

    And I'm sure others can relate.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Black Hat Cat took the words right out of my mouth. You always have the option of not having to read it.

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  • Profile picture of the author IndigoJack
    mmmmm.....this is the same issue as why the heck don't people open or respond to their emails?!

    So they have sent you a query which you reply to immediately - then days or weeks pass before they respond but not to your reply email (?), they moan about the amount of time this is all taking but still do not provide the information you asked for in email number 1.

    Fact is that some people are completely lacking in urgency about replying to emails or resonding to queries and yet, will complain heartily if you do not respond immediately.

    Soooooo, same applies here. People post threads but they aren't the type to check a response for days or weeks.
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