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Old 11-14-2008, 08:46 PM   #51
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Just an idea - try asking your potential clients (i.e. the local business owners) when was the last time THEY used the yellow pages to find anything as opposed to searching online and that shouldn't be limited to just a particular service.

BTW: Where did you create/paid that poll?
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What paid polling service did you use..? interested in getting one done for myself

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I used Facebook for my poll. I was very surprised to find it there.

I have just gone to Facebook to get you guys a link but they seem to have shut it down now. I can view my old poll but cant create a new one. It was in the business and advertising section.

Do a Google search for facebook polls and you may be able to find some more info about it.

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Nice to hear you made a good amount in a short time. Proper tactics and marketing put the products on top and one can easily make money this way also. There could be many such people who want to increase their sales but do not know the means and still hesitant to ask anybody. At least after reading this, I hope such persons would come forward and take the help of those who are willing to do these things for them at a nominal cost. Good luck in your future endeavors also.

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Great job. That is a great business model right now. I know because that is what I do when I'm not online!
I am glad to hear that a lot of people are doing this!

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Nice to hear you made a good amount in a short time. Proper tactics and marketing put the products on top and one can easily make money this way also. There could be many such people who want to increase their sales but do not know the means and still hesitant to ask anybody. At least after reading this, I hope such persons would come forward and take the help of those who are willing to do these things for them at a nominal cost. Good luck in your future endeavors also.
Yep, I hope so as well!
I think these kinds of thread give "no excuse" to people to cry how it is impossible to make money online

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Great use of initiative, plus being in the right place at the right time.
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Hello Alex,
Your idea is quite fantastic and I think I should give it a try as this same opportunity abounds everywhere around us. We only need to seize some useful opportunities in life. Keep it up, Alex
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Your idea is quite fantastic and I think I should give it a try as this same opportunity abounds everywhere around us. We only need to seize some useful opportunities in life. Keep it up, Alex
You should give it a try.
Once you close the first deal - you'll see how simple it is

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very nice story, but its not really simple to make and i think that you got lucky also to make a contract and get 1000$ from a stranger after a few words :}

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It'd be very hard to track the sales, since many people would find the site, call the number and come pick up the product... Even the owner would not know where the customer came from...
Alex, first of all, GREAT JOB!!!

As for tracking the sales from the internet, just a thought but there are a couple ways you could do this (if the owner is willing). First, would be for him to have a second phone number for his business that he uses only for the website, or an extension for his regular number, so when they call, he knows how they found out about him. Also, he could offer a discount or something on the site that the person needs to say or ask for when they call or come in (eg, "be sure to ask about our special discount or offer") that will be compelling enough for people to be sure to remember....but they would only know about it if they saw the website. (These are just off the top of my head but you get the idea...).

Also, be sure his website has an email opt-in with a call to action on the site (if you didn't do that already) so that he can start building his customer list and monetize that list in the future with email marketing, back-end sales, etc. You'll be his hero!
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very nice story, but its not really simple to make and i think that you got lucky also to make a contract and get 1000$ from a stranger after a few words :}
Well, it's all about how you present the opportunity
And once again, I offered him the service for free, in a way. I asked him to pay ONLY after the result, so he really didn't have anything to lose.

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It really IS this easy to get hired by small business owners.

A few suggestions:

# 1: If you don't get a substantial fee upfront it can be VERY difficult to get paid.

My guideline is to charge at least 50% upfront before you do any work for a client.


# 2: Getting this guy indexed and ranked on Google is just the beginning.

You can go back to the same client and offer service after service (more SEO, email marketing etc etc.).


# 3: When a client is thanking you for your help that's the best time to ask for referrals.

I talk about how to do this in detail in the report Offline Gold For The Online Marketer.

Bottom line...each client and even business owners who don't hire you...can send you to even BETTER prospects.

Referrals in this business are golden.


# 4: The money is made simply by talking to business owners as you found, asking intelligent questions and listening.

The work is relatively easy and it can pay very well.

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It really IS this easy to get hired by small business owners.

A few suggestions:

# 1: If you don't get a substantial fee upfront it can be VERY difficult to get paid.

My guideline is to charge at least 50% upfront before you do any work for a client.


# 2: Getting this guy indexed and ranked on Google is just the beginning.

You can go back to the same client and offer service after service (more SEO, email marketing etc etc.).


# 3: When a client is thanking you for your help that's the best time to ask for referrals.

I talk about how to do this in detail in the report Offline Gold For The Online Marketer.

Bottom line...each client and even business owners who don't hire you...can send you to even BETTER prospects.

Referrals in this business are golden.


# 4: The money is made simply by talking to business owners as you found, asking intelligent questions and listening.

The work is relatively easy and it can pay very well.

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Hey, Andrew! Thanks for a great reply.
Charging a decent upfront fee is a good idea, however I think it might scare off some prospects... I guess this is why I didn't ask for it on my first "deal".

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very nice story, but its not really simple to make and i think that you got lucky also to make a contract and get 1000$ from a stranger after a few words :}
I feel sure it would be a matter of luck if YOU were to be as successful as the OP, doing the same thing. After all, Alex knows what he's doing. You, apparently, do not.

For example, that affiliate link you have in your sig line -- that's a no-no...

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Alex,

I really feel inspired by your thread. Thank you for all the offline tips.... it kind of works a different angle of the cash cow thread .... I was wondering if you would mind sharing with us the wordpress blog you set up.
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I really feel inspired by your thread. Thank you for all the offline tips.... it kind of works a different angle of the cash cow thread .... I was wondering if you would mind sharing with us the wordpress blog you set up.
Hey

Just sent you a pm, I don't want to make the URL public for obvious reasons

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Excellent risk reversal, Alex!

Here's something that might bump it up even more and may even increase the odds you'll get paid in future replays of this tactic...

Buy the domain name and hosting yourself.

This completely eliminates the business owner's upfront risk and makes your offer shine even brighter.

Leverage

It also gives you the keys to the kingdom...let's say you get the results you promise, but Mr. Owner decides not to pay. You can now go to his nearest competitor and offer the same deal, but with a ready-made and ranking site. You control the site, so you can change phone numbers, etc.

The contract should clearly state that transfer of ownership is contingent upon payment. And of course, you wouldn't want the domain name to include a particular business name...that would remove any leverage offered by this tactic.

Portfolio

If you can't find a competitor to step in for Mr. Owner, keep the site for yourself and use it as a portfolio piece. Build it out and make it rank for even more terms for that kind of business. At that point, you could lease the site or sell it outright for even more than a thousand bucks.

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To be honest I cant be bothered to read all of that, but well done!
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Hey, Andrew! Thanks for a great reply.
Charging a decent upfront fee is a good idea, however I think it might scare off some prospects... I guess this is why I didn't ask for it on my first "deal".
There are more businesses in most modest sized cities and towns than you could ever get to in a lifetime.

Believe me if you continue to do this you want to get an upfront fee or you will get burned more often than not.

One of the biggest reasons is because the business owner has absolutely nothing invested in the outcome.

It is a great way to get your FIRST couple of clients though.

But once you get rolling charge upfront.

If they don't want to pay just move on.


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Excellent risk reversal, Alex!

Here's something that might bump it up even more and may even increase the odds you'll get paid in future replays of this tactic...

Buy the domain name and hosting yourself.

This completely eliminates the business owner's upfront risk and makes your offer shine even brighter.



This is a good idea but not due to risk reversal. If a business owner isn't willing to shell out $20 for hosting what do you think your chances are of geting paid $1,000...first page of google results or not.


Leverage

It also gives you the keys to the kingdom...let's say you get the results you promise, but Mr. Owner decides not to pay. You can now go to his nearest competitor and offer the same deal, but with a ready-made and ranking site. You control the site, so you can change phone numbers, etc.

The contract should clearly state that transfer of ownership is contingent upon payment. And of course, you wouldn't want the domain name to include a particular business name...that would remove any leverage offered by this tactic.



That's why it's a good idea. It gives you some control if the business owner tries to screw you at ANY point.

Your chances of getting paid any substantial fee without charging something substantial up front are not good no matter what you do...as you'll discover if you do this a few times.

Charge upfront.

This is a great example of making some money and building credibility by just getting out there and DOING something.

Great stuff.

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Okay, let's be clear here.. it is not really "in 2 hours", there is some work involved, already. But, the point is that you took the action! And that is great. Congrat mate!!

Back links are amazing! I myself hit the PR 3, for JUST a squeeze page, nothing else.. And the first result in google for 3 keywords, 5th, 7th... and so on.. for 2 keywords, in a very competitive niche!! No money spent, just put the time into building the back links, in about 2 months period.

Congrats again, and do NOT forget, rinse and repeat.. helping other's businesses, OR, better building your own business and grow it!

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Okay, let's be clear here.. it is not really "in 2 hours", there is some work involved, already. But, the point is that you took the action! And that is great. Congrat mate!!

Back links are amazing! I myself hit the PR 3, for JUST a squeeze page, nothing else.. And the first result in google for 3 keywords, 5th, 7th... and so on.. for 2 keywords, in a very competitive niche!! No money spent, just put the time into building the back links, in about 2 months period.

Congrats again, and do NOT forget, rinse and repeat.. helping other's businesses, OR, better building your own business and grow it!
Once again, the actual amount of work, including the driving to the client's office actually did take me 2 hours at MAX. I did not build any backlinks, I did not do ANYTHING but talking to the client, setting up a WP blog (site) with the content the client provided me... that's all.

Sure it took a one week wait for the site to get indexed and ranked - but I did not work on that...

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Excellent risk reversal, Alex!

Here's something that might bump it up even more and may even increase the odds you'll get paid in future replays of this tactic...

Buy the domain name and hosting yourself.

This completely eliminates the business owner's upfront risk and makes your offer shine even brighter.

Leverage

It also gives you the keys to the kingdom...let's say you get the results you promise, but Mr. Owner decides not to pay. You can now go to his nearest competitor and offer the same deal, but with a ready-made and ranking site. You control the site, so you can change phone numbers, etc.

The contract should clearly state that transfer of ownership is contingent upon payment. And of course, you wouldn't want the domain name to include a particular business name...that would remove any leverage offered by this tactic.

Portfolio

If you can't find a competitor to step in for Mr. Owner, keep the site for yourself and use it as a portfolio piece. Build it out and make it rank for even more terms for that kind of business. At that point, you could lease the site or sell it outright for even more than a thousand bucks.
Some great stuff! I already thought of selling (renting) the sites to the competition in case one business owner decides to not pay

And as you said, it could always be used as an example in my portfolio.

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Hi Alex,

Great post! Your post has really really inspired me and I have decided to do the exact same thing with businesses in my own area. If you don't mind, would you mind sharing that web page blog that you setup for the company? That would be a great help for me to get started.

Cheers mate!
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I would assume it takes a little bit longer than 2 hours however it sounds like an awesome plan expecially this time of the year when business owners are looking for sales
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I would assume it takes a little bit longer than 2 hours however it sounds like an awesome plan expecially this time of the year when business owners are looking for sales
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This is absolutely correct! I went into a business and did this, only I asked for a deposit up front of 300.00

I build a website with about 5 pages, the client sent me the pictures and the content..I didn't even use a blog...just a static website. I had the keywords he chose double listed number one and two in google within about 3-4 days.

It absolutely works! People are blown away with your presentation, no matter how little/much you know.
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This is absolutely correct! I went into a business and did this, only I asked for a deposit up front of 300.00

I build a website with about 5 pages, the client sent me the pictures and the content..I didn't even use a blog...just a static website. I had the keywords he chose double listed number one and two in google within about 3-4 days.

It absolutely works! People are blown away with your presentation, no matter how little/much you know.
That is why I love this method.

- It requires little work and great results are almost guaranteed
- It requires very little time but the reward is great
- You only need to know the basics. Most newbies can do it.

Present yourself well, be confident - that's all

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Hey,

Thanks for a great post - where did you get your "non blog" WP theme from? I am currently looking for a theme for a site at the moment and do not want it to be a date related page.

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Well, i don't think it is a "fair" way to count... When mechanic charges you $50/h - he doesn't say well, it's not really $50/h - because it took me at least 5,000 hours to learn what I know... Do lawyers say that? or teachers? or bakers?... No. The time spent on education is a different matter and can't really be "added" to the count...
Well, maybe the lawyers!!

BTW - Great job. Have you done any more of these for local business in your area?
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Hey Alex,
Congratulations on your success in turning around the small business! So you made $1300 in two hours? What was the total time that it took you to put together the word press website? How long did you spend on back links?
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Congratulations on your success in turning around the small business! So you made $1300 in two hours? What was the total time that it took you to put together the word press website? How long did you spend on back links?
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It took me 2 hours to:
- Speak to the cleint
- Build the WP blog (site) using content provided by the client
- I did not build ANY backlinks

...total time = 2 hours.

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Nice job bro!

I live in dayon, ohio.

This is the only local consulting competition that I currently have

I don't think they really know what they are doing. This is so easy it's a joke!


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Nice job bro!

I live in dayon, ohio.

This is the only local consulting competition that I currently have

I don't think they really know what they are doing. This is so easy it's a joke!
It does look pretty bad for an Internet Marketing firm.
I am sure they never went anywhere with that business - this is why they never updated the site and left it in the 90's

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What I am about to tell you is pretty insane!

A while ago I posted a video on youtube, there was even a thread about it here on Warriors: [VIDEO] Dominate Google's 1st page for FREE!

So this guy from Houston, TX saw my video, went to my blog... I figured he read through most of it because he found a post which talks about one of my info products... he then went to my product's page, found my phone number and called me... He needs my service! (which are described in this thread).

This evening I will be talking to him about optimizing the website of his local small business!

This is simply amazing. I am gettong a client who is in another country, 2,000 miles away... all because of a Youtube video.

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That's so cool Alex!

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I thought of doing this, too. Thanks for sharing your story. I keep getting held back - not sure why. I love working from home - if I start doing this I compromise that - my schedule is so crazy as it is... But your experience has definitely given me food for thought!
 
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Well I see you have been thanked many times already here, so I will just throw in a Congrats. I am glad you mentioned that plugin. I think I will go look for it right now, I know I could benefit from it.

I guess one of the reasons some offline businesses don't really think about website traffic, high Google rankings or being more "out there" in cyber world, is because they think the majority of their income will most likely come from local sources. For example, why would a car company think they would benefit from some in Australia seeing their website. Not like they will come buy something.
This is the misconception of alot of offline businesses, thinking the internet is only good for reaching the other side of the world, and therefore no use for their own business.

Montreal is full of business you can go help. I am here near Toronto, and seeing that now maybe I could be of help to some of these mom and pop shops we have here in town.

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Great post. Very similar to an idea I have had before, which I will post soon.

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Well I see you have been thanked many times already here, so I will just throw in a Congrats. I am glad you mentioned that plugin. I think I will go look for it right now, I know I could benefit from it.

I guess one of the reasons some offline businesses don't really think about website traffic, high Google rankings or being more "out there" in cyber world, is because they think the majority of their income will most likely come from local sources. For example, why would a car company think they would benefit from some in Australia seeing their website. Not like they will come buy something.
This is the misconception of alot of offline businesses, thinking the internet is only good for reaching the other side of the world, and therefore no use for their own business.

Montreal is full of business you can go help. I am here near Toronto, and seeing that now maybe I could be of help to some of these mom and pop shops we have here in town.

Here's to more $1300 days!!!
I actually chose TO in one of my videos as an example, since it's the 5th biggest city in North America. I was surprised to find out how many businesses in Toronto do not have a website (do not rank anywhere near the first page)! So you better take over before I move there

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Alex,

Thanks for posting this. Just a couple of questions for you...

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In 2 days I received an e-mail with all the information I requested. I logged into his hosting cPanel, uploaded Wordpress, uploaded a few free WP themes that I though would match the business, I also uploaded ALL-IN-ONE-SEO-PACK plug-in for WP and the sitemap plug-in. I created 5 pages, each with the name of the product I made sure to fill out all of the All-In-One-Seo fields with relevant information - so title of the page, description and keywords/tags. In about 30 minutes the site was complete.
Were his descriptions any good? I just have this feeling that most people would produce rubbish. Did you edit it, or post it up just as he wrote it?

Also, which themes did you use? Or, if you don't want to reveal the exact ones, how did you decide which were good?

Finally on this bit, why did you do it as a WP blog if you wanted it to look like a standard web site? Why not just write plain old HTML files? Seems much easier. Was there a good reason you picked WP?

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I left it alone for a week, hoping to have the time to work on some backlinks, but as I was trying to see if Google indexed it - it appeared on the first page of the results for all 5 keyword phrases. That's not all. Each keyword phrase was ranked as a result #1 and #2! Now, this might be surprising for some of you, but the truth is, when you are doing this for a local business you put the name of the city in the search - which makes ranking on top MUCH easier for MOST businesses.
So how did it get so well ranked if you didn't do anything? First off, how did Google even find it without backlinks? Second, even if ranking is easy, the copy must have been pretty good to rank that highly without any marketing or backlinks.

Please explain a bit more as I'm really intrigued by this superb idea.

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Thanks for posting this. Just a couple of questions for you...


Were his descriptions any good? I just have this feeling that most people would produce rubbish. Did you edit it, or post it up just as he wrote it?

Also, which themes did you use? Or, if you don't want to reveal the exact ones, how did you decide which were good?

Finally on this bit, why did you do it as a WP blog if you wanted it to look like a standard web site? Why not just write plain old HTML files? Seems much easier. Was there a good reason you picked WP?


So how did it get so well ranked if you didn't do anything? First off, how did Google even find it without backlinks? Second, even if ranking is easy, the copy must have been pretty good to rank that highly without any marketing or backlinks.

Please explain a bit more as I'm really intrigued by this superb idea.

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Alan, I used WP simply because I cannot write in html... fair enough?
Also because by using tags and some plugins (such as ALL-IN-ONE-SEO) you achieve the same results as you would with html - only it is much faster and easier to use.

It's a known fact that Google loves WP style - and they tend to rank it rather high, if it is well optimized.

I changed the client's copy just a little bit (for the sake of keywords) but once again, looking at the SE results seems like everything was ranked the way it was because of the plugins and tags.

Once the site (blog) was completed, I used PINGOAT and PINGOMATIC - this helped to get it indexed... and ranked.

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Great Job! and an idea many of us could use.

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What Quentin is saying is that you spent countless hours learning how to get sites ranked, and this can be invaluable. So yeah, it's $1,300 in two hours, but when you spent hundreds of hours learning how to get the sites ranked, it isn't quite just 2 hours of your time.
Chances are he would have spent the time learning those skills anyway, he didn't acquire them for the specific purpose of making this shop's website. So, while he was using a specialized skill that requires time to learn, I wouldn't say he needs to declare those hours as time spent on the project!


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You have a critic.

I don't believe that you can start up a website from scratch and rank in the top 5 for keyphrases/keywords for atleast a few months! What about the Sandbox? With zero backlinks, you'll also be behind hundreds of developed sites and will no doubt have a page rank of zero!

I don't believe that most people can be business savvy enough to engage these methods, on any such business owner. I'd imagine that most owners would simply seek a full/professional job, especially with such issues as privacy/taxes/VAT and so on.

Confused that no one else has brought up these points yet, on a webmaster forum like this.

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You know, a while ago I saw a post on another board (so I take no credit for the idea ) that laid out a plan, somewhat similar to this, where you chose a vulnerable local keyword (for example, "Italian Food Burbank") and then you dominate it. You own all of top ten listings if you can, but as many as you can if you can't. You do this with a combination of your own sites as well as pages on Web 2.0 properties you control. Squidoo, Blogger, YouTube...you get the idea.

Once you own the listings, you set a price and start making the rounds. If one place says no, move on to the next.

This is a great tactic because what you're selling really isn't the listing themselves - it's the opportunity to keep their competitor from having the listings. It's the ultimate in scarcity tactics - only ONE business can have it. First one to jump on wins.

Personally, this idea appeals to me more than another one that's been bandied about on forums a lot, which is creating a local directory and selling ad space on it to local businesses. I like the scarcity and I like the cleanness (if that's a word!) of having a few valuable contracts with less businesses as opposed to lots of small-time deals with many businesses.


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You have a critic.

I don't believe that you can start up a website from scratch and rank in the top 5 for keyphrases/keywords for atleast a few months! What about the Sandbox? With zero backlinks, you'll also be behind hundreds of developed sites and will no doubt have a page rank of zero!

I don't believe that most people can be business savvy enough to engage these methods, on any such business owner. I'd imagine that most owners would simply seek a full/professional job, especially with such issues as privacy/taxes/VAT and so on.

Confused that no one else has brought up these points yet, on a webmaster forum like this.
Ryan - it's absolutely possible when the keywords are long-tail enough, which it sounds like these were - relatively uncommon product name combined with a city name.

Also, while he didn't get backlinks, he did state that he pinged. Depending on the vulnerability of the terms, that can be enough.


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Hmm, in my experience, it's possible to land on the top spots especially if you have a unique domain name. One of my recent websites, for instance, landed on the #1 position in just a matter of days. If I'm not mistaken, I think that happened in about 5 days' time. And that without any extra plugins yet.

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You don't necessarily go into the sandbox, sites can go straight into the main index.

I created three sites about a year ago, and within a few weeks they were each in the top three positions for their keywords, with only ONE backlink each (from my main site, so Google would find them). They stayed there as long as I owned the sites (which I sold six months later for a serious amount of money!), and as far as I know, they're still there.

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With zero backlinks, you'll also be behind hundreds of developed sites and will no doubt have a page rank of zero!
No, the whole point is that you choose keywords where you AREN'T fighting with hundreds of developed sites. You're adding a local element to a competitive keyword, which is often enough to knock out most of the competition.

The one point that did make me wonder was how well this would work for more run-of-the-mill businesses. The OP went into a fairly specialised business, where I imagine the number of competing web sites is lower anyway. I would be interested to know if anyone has achieved good rankings for more common local services, such as a florist, italian restaurant, etc.

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Confused that no one else has brought up these points yet, on a webmaster forum like this.
Even though there are many web savvy people here, this isn't a webmaster forum, it's an Internet Marketing forum.

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Alan, I used WP simply because I cannot write in html... fair enough?
Excellent reason!

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Also because by using tags and some plugins (such as ALL-IN-ONE-SEO) you achieve the same results as you would with html - only it is much faster and easier to use.
OK, given that I have more experience with HTML than I do with WP, it might be the opposite for me, but I guess I'd need to know what the plug-in did to the page to make it so well optimised.

I presume you were just targeting "businesstype city" for SEO? If so, did you just take his product descriptions and use them as a vehicle for optimising for those keywords?

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Once the site (blog) was completed, I used PINGOAT and PINGOMATIC - this helped to get it indexed... and ranked.
Thanks for the tip there, I never thought of that.

Thanks for the reply. Are you willing to divulge more info about the WP theme you used? I just looked around, and there are loads of themes available. How did you know which one to use? You said you picked one that didn't look like a blog, how did you find it?

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