What do you expect for $20?

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Here's a simple question for you today...

If you're spending $20 on a package of IM-related information products, all targeted to one particular area (for example, reports about making money with article writing), what do you expect?

An ebook? Plus a bonus? What about videos? Audio? What is enough value to justify you paying $20 for a package?
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  • Profile picture of the author DomenicoGrecojr
    This will really depend on the sales letter or the sales video.

    If it's convincing enough, a short ebook will easily justify the $20.

    If the sales message is not convincing, then videos would be enough for me to give out $20.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Q
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    If I have $20 to spend right now, I will spend it on a WSO or any eBook that can start make money in the first day, or even the first hour.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joshua Rigley
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      I once started a thread some time ago asking this same question. Except I wanted to know what warriors would want for $7. The general consensus was that they'd learn something they didn't already know.

      For $20, I would expect at least $20 in value. Suppose there's a PLR product that normally sells for $37 (and you can prove it), offering that as a free bonus would go a long way in providing that value.

      Just don't put in anything crappy, and you should be fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
    Originally Posted by Zabrina View Post

    Here's a simple question for you today...

    If you're spending $20 on a package of IM-related information products, all targeted to one particular area (for example, reports about making money with article writing), what do you expect?
    Hey Zabrina,

    For me, it's more about the content than anything else. I understand some
    may be hung up on the overall package and the 'weight of it.'

    You could have a 5 page report on something truly valuable and ask 20 or
    even a lot more. If it's worth it, then I wouldn't mind paying it.

    Much has to do with how you present and position the offer in the sales
    copy. Then make sure you deliver the promise.


    Ken
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by KenThompson View Post

      Hey Zabrina,

      For me, it's more about the content than anything else. I understand some
      may be hung up on the overall package and the 'weight of it.'

      You could have a 5 page report on something truly valuable and ask 20 or
      even a lot more. If it's worth it, then I wouldn't mind paying it.

      Much has to do with how you present and position the offer in the sales
      copy. Then make sure you deliver the promise.


      Ken
      I couldn't agree more. I'm not really in favor of those big packages sold with videos for a fairly low price point (around $20 to $30 or so) that do not have any real "meat" in them. It's far better to have valuable/actionable content in the form of a PDF that I can read, digest and put into action quickly.

      It seems like there are many packages out there that are full of fluff, filler and unnecessary "padding" which ultimately does not add value to the product. The trick when coming out with a product that is not necessarily voluminous in size (but has powerful and actionable content) is to convey how valuable that content is to an audience who is for the most part of the "bigger is better" persuasion.

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      • Profile picture of the author angela99
        What the other posters have said is so true; I'll happily pay $20 for a one page product which gives me one good idea I can use.

        You're selling information. The form it comes in doesn't matter.

        Think in terms of what the product requires.

        Does it need video? If it does, provide it.

        If it doesn't, you'll only annoy people if you provide exactly the same info in a video which you explained in a PDF.

        Aim to provide solid information, rather than popcorn products which are mainly hot air.

        Good luck. :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author petelta
    I think instead of looking at the types of mediums you receive, you should look at the quality of the content itself. That's where the value truly lies.

    For $20, you will only get ebooks out of me and probably 1-2 bonuses. Videos I present as being more valuable because they are...so I charge more for them. I usually pop $20 on for the video versions.

    I'm confident that anything I put out will be worth the charge though...and if you buy from me...even just a $5 product, you are on my favorites list which I send so much freebie stuff down the road it's ridiculous. So, you may spend $20 on my ebook and bonuses, but a month later, you've received 5 videos, 3 special reports, free access to a membership site, and free webinars.

    It's also going to depend where you are selling it. The WSO forum for example has given a lot of the forum readers the idea that IM products are always $3-$17. Show them an ebook for $37 and they have a heart attack. Take the same ebook and sell it on your website for $47 and it converts the same. You have to adjust your price because of this in this area.

    Not saying $37+ WSOs don't do well for some, but the majority of the readers are " price shopping" and looking for that $5 cure that will turn their business into Microsoft.

    How much do you feel your work is worth?

    Travis



    Originally Posted by Zabrina View Post

    Here's a simple question for you today...

    If you're spending $20 on a package of IM-related information products, all targeted to one particular area (for example, reports about making money with article writing), what do you expect?

    An ebook? Plus a bonus? What about videos? Audio? What is enough value to justify you paying $20 for a package?
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by petelta View Post

      How much do you feel your work is worth?

      Travis
      Travis, it really doesn't matter what she thinks her work is worth. What matters is what potential buyers think her work is worth.

      It's a matter of building the value proposition.

      If the prospect has money to spend, all you have to do is get him to convince himself that you offer more value than the price you ask, and that he'll get something he wants more than the $20.

      Do that, and the only way to stop him from buying is to take down the offer...
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  • Profile picture of the author Zabrina
    Hmm, thanks for your interesting responses!

    I know I have a problem undervaluing myself, because I logically know that my work is worth a lot... I just can't communicate that very well. I think I need to study more copywriting.
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    • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
      Originally Posted by Zabrina View Post

      Hmm, thanks for your interesting responses!

      I know I have a problem undervaluing myself, because I logically know that my work is worth a lot... I just can't communicate that very well. I think I need to study more copywriting.
      Hmmm, no not really. Let me help you!

      Just copy and paste the following:

      The price for wicked Zabrina's fabulous writing ebook is a mere $47. And it's
      available as a convenient download! Better hurry, though. Limited copies!

      There you go girl.


      Ken
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnLeonard
    I agree....I am working on a WSO... It will be $5 but worth waaaaay more.....The thing is, without the warriors it wouldn't't exist....So its a small way of saying thank you....I know free would be a great....But hey....
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    • Profile picture of the author Joshua Rigley
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      Originally Posted by JohnLeonard View Post

      I agree....I am working on a WSO... It will be $5 but worth waaaaay more.....The thing is, without the warriors it wouldn't't exist....So its a small way of saying thank you....I know free would be a great....But hey....
      I know, right? We need to be paid for the time we put into our products. Mind you, I'm not bashing giving away free products or anything, but the whole point of this business is selling something at some point. Just make sure you're selling something of good quality and you should do fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Hancox
    Hi Zabrina

    Also, don't forget the business concept of return on investment ... that is, the amount of money you get out of an investment in your business.

    For example, if I were to buy your $20 product, and it helped me make $40... that's a 100% return on investment! I got my money back, and made an additional $20. Basically, I doubled my money because of your product.

    If you're selling to people in business (like any IM product), then you want to indicate the kind of return on investment they could make, in your sales material.

    If you honestly don't know specific figures (which is usually the case because everybody is different), but you're convinced they WILL make money from your information, you could always make this part of your guarantee.

    For example, with my latest product, my guarantee reads like this:

    "Download __________ right now. Read it. Absorb it. If you don't feel what you've gained from it is going to make you at least TEN TIMES your initial investment in this product... then I simply don't want your money. Email me within 60 days of today's purchase, and I'll refund 100% of your money. It's as simple as that."

    That way, if anyone has doubts, you're effectively guaranteeing that it WILL be worth multiple times the money they paid.

    Of course, if you're not quite as confident they'll make TEN TIMES their investment, you could always simply say... "If you don't feel you'll easily make your money back with this information..." - just adapt the wording as necessary.

    I hope this helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Hi Zabrina,

    I hope the following questions will help you place more value on your products, and help you connect with buyers.

    1. What problem does the information solve?

    2. What happens if people DON'T get the information?

    3. Why should they get it from you?

    I believe the degree to which you can answer those questions will determine how successful your product is.

    All the best,
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  • Profile picture of the author Joshua Rigley
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    @Paul: Couldn't have put it better myself. I believe Paul Myers uses a similar guarantee. It's very powerful.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
    I would expect a 40,000 word thesis with perfect grammar and spelling, in addition to unlimited re-writes and a money back guarantee if it is not accepted into Ezine Articles :p

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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Paul did a much better job than I did when I just mentioned 'building a value proposition'.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        Paul did a much better job than I did when I just mentioned 'building a value proposition'.
        Only because you won't put down that fish and type what you really want to say!

        Zabrina,
        For $20 I want the same basic thing that I would want from a $1, $5, $10 or any other $ offer. I want what the sales letter tells me I will get if I purchase the item.

        If the sales letter says I will get 10 links I've been looking for then Great!
        If the sales letter says I will make $20 10 minutes after I buy then Great!

        If the sales letter solves my problem or gets me one step closer to my goal
        saving me time and or money then it's all good.

        Hope that Helps,
        Have a Great Day!
        Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author mikebrooks
    Value has everything to do with the perceived value of the thing. I always thought something John Carlton said about value to be very profound. If Marilyn Monroe, in her heyday, gave a guy her phone number scribbled on a used bar napkin, the value would be extremely high.

    Here's a simple formula. Kahonays+Copy = Money. Kahonays equals what you're willing to charge. Then you're ability to back it up with the copy is what makes it work.

    The higher the quality the lower the returns.
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  • Profile picture of the author deannatroupe
    I would just expect to learn something that I didn't already know. I would also expect to learn something that I could apply without buying something else. I hate those products that you buy and then have to buy something else to apply what you learned.
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  • Profile picture of the author excuzemee
    I'd pay 20 dollars if the sales copy was really good = irresistible!

    I wrote a 'free' pdf and sent it out to my list, people said I should have charged for it.

    Sometimes hangin' out in a crowed like this, sometimes we forget that all the time spent learning this stuff that's being passed around is actually worth A LOT.

    You just have to let your prospects KNOW that.

    The stuff that gets passed around here for free is unbelievable when you consider that most people won't take the time to join and read for a gajillion hours... and then IMPLEMENT until it works.

    Don't take the hours you have toiling over the keyboard for granted.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jazzman
    Zabrina, I often read the sales copy very carefully to make sure that the product is exactly what I want. When selling your product you have to know what your Unique Selling Position is (USP). You want to convey the value of your product package to your customers.

    You can't be everything to all, so focus your sales message on what your customers want from the product and you will do fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author goodman441
    I expect something worth the money.....
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Originally Posted by Zabrina View Post

    Here's a simple question for you today...

    If you're spending $20 on a package of IM-related information products, all targeted to one particular area (for example, reports about making money with article writing), what do you expect?

    An ebook? Plus a bonus? What about videos? Audio? What is enough value to justify you paying $20 for a package?

    An ebook with some useful information in it is all that I would expect for $20...

    The book does not need to be jam-packed with tons of ideas, just one idea that makes sense to me...
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  • Profile picture of the author Slin
    One useful tip.

    That's it, that's all I need, earn me more CTR? Well then great!

    I once sold a book on here for $17, me and my business partner wrote like 100+ pages of content.

    We still had someone tell us that they expected more information from a product at that price

    Just goes to show, you can't please everyone.

    But my criteria still stands, as long as I get at least one good thing from it, I think it's great.
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  • Profile picture of the author Slade556
    If the content is good enough I'd pay $20 for one page. But since most people wouldn't go for that I'd expect a well laid out ebook for that price range. Carefully edited and laid out, good content, etc. An unannounced bonus would be nice but I wouldn't expect it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tracey_Meagher
    Like everyone has said, quality not quantity. For $20 I'd wouldn't necessarily expect more than one product but I would expect that product to be pretty good.
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  • Profile picture of the author samuelseeto
    It depends on the person too... Some prefer videos over ebooks. Some prefer ebooks as they prefer reading, or it means they can print it out and read it on transport or whatever...
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    • Profile picture of the author Vogin
      Honestly, I would expect a good lunch for two people in the Czech Republic.

      But if we have to stick to the IM related stuff, than probably an ebook...
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  • Profile picture of the author Randy Daugherty
    I suggest video marketing this is much worthy for a $20 package...
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    I was thinking about this yesterday. Most of the old timers ("gurus") would NEVER have sold something for less than $20 in the past. A lead in product started at $19.97 but the majority of ebooks (no video, no PLR, etc.) were $27, $39, $47, $97.

    I'm talking people like Yanik Silver, Jimmy Brown, Allen Says, Paul Myers, Terry Dean, Jim Edwards, etc.

    Recently for example, Jimmy Brown said that his bestselling ebook was a $97 product. People were promoting it like crazy and he was selling them like crazy. It wasn't because there was a this or a that included as a bonus, I think it was a combination of reputation, quality, sales skills, right hungry market, etc. that allowed him to do that.

    The $7 craze started people thinking that everything had to be cheap and if it was more than $7 it was a ripoff.

    You have to ask yourself, if you're sweating over a $20 product (which really means you're not sure anyone will buy what you plan to offer at that price) how in the world are you going to have an upsell product or backend offer? And do you want a lot of "proven buyers" (recent buzzword and theory) who can only afford $7 or $20 and if it doesn't include the Holy Grail with all answers to all their problems they want a refund?

    Value, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. Determine what your stuff is worth and then help people see the value.

    Good Luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Tyrus Antas
    For $20? Not much, either I'm being scammed or
    the product creator suffers from a severe lack
    of self-confidence.

    Very low prices for information products
    turn me off.

    Tyrus
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