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Article Marketers - We Are Getting Our [censored] Handed To Us

by clbnc
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Hi all. If you do any article marketing on Ezine perhaps you have noticed something. I know I have.

I have noticed that in certain extremely competitive categories in Ezine (think way more than one page worth of new articles published everyday) that certain names are consistently getting accepted last at the end of the day, thus getting the coveted top spots in the category. It just happened again today, Friday, so these names will be making an absolute killing over the weekend.

I find it very strange that these authors are able to do this CONSISTENTLY in such competitive categories.

Has anyone else noticed this at all? Does anyone know how they are doing it? I have tried submitting articles at various times, staggering them, and a bunch of things but I have never had even a sniff of the consistency that they enjoy.

Unless the rest of us can figure out how to do this, we will continue to have our butts handed to us.
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  • Profile picture of the author VegasGreg
    Maybe that is part of the "Premium" service upgrade they offer?
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  • Profile picture of the author JJ-Undercover
    Suppose I'm 1 of those you speak of. How much is it worth to you?
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    • Profile picture of the author clbnc
      Originally Posted by JJ-Undercover View Post

      Suppose I'm 1 of those you speak of. How much is it worth to you?
      Feel free to write an ebook and I'll gladly review and test the methods to see how well your secret works. I'll provide an honest review and let you know how much I think the information is actually worth depending on how well it actually does work. Feel free to PM me when you have a draft copy.

      Originally Posted by VegasMan2k View Post

      Maybe that is part of the "Premium" service upgrade they offer?
      This was happening before any premium service.
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  • Profile picture of the author getsmartt
    You don't think possibly it has anything at all to do with what time of day they submit the article? (of course this would assume that they pay attention to appx. how long it takes an article to get published from the time it is submitted)

    just a thought...
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    • Profile picture of the author clbnc
      Originally Posted by getsmartt View Post

      You don't think possibly it has anything at all to do with what time of day they submit the article? (of course this would assume that they pay attention to appx. how long it takes an article to get published from the time it is submitted)

      just a thought...
      Thanks for the response. As I mentioned in my opening, I have tried that method and others. I was never able to get consistent results at all. These people are getting consistent results day after day when mine are all over the place.
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      • Profile picture of the author getsmartt
        Originally Posted by clbnc View Post

        Thanks for the response. As I mentioned in my opening, I have tried that method and others. I was never able to get consistent results at all. These people are getting consistent results day after day when mine are all over the place.
        I can assure you that the people that see consistent results submit multiple articles (or have someone do it fore them) at set intervals.

        Think if it takes x hours to get an article approved, I will submit 1 article every 15 minutes starting at 2 hours before my target time till 2 hours after my target time.
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  • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
    Hey James,

    It may have nothing to do with how many articles you submit, or when you submit them, but everything to do with who is approving them.

    Now I'm not saying this is happening so I want people to be perfectly clear about it, but it is possible.

    Just a thought ...

    Mary
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    • Profile picture of the author clbnc
      Originally Posted by mmurtha View Post

      Hey James,

      It may have nothing to do with how many articles you submit, or when you submit them, but everything to do with who is approving them.

      Now I'm not saying this is happening so I want people to be perfectly clear about it, but it is possible.

      Just a thought ...

      Mary
      BINGO!

      As I mentioned in my opening post, I tried staggering them myself. And, I would quite consistently get them lumped together and accepted at various times.

      Not to mention, even consistently submitting them at the same time does not mean they are accepted at the same time. I have tried that and still end up all over the place, as do most of the other ones it appears.

      But, somehow there are certain names that have multiple articles accepted consistently at the end of the day and get that coveted spot in extremely competitive categories.

      To be that consistent is mind boggling to me.
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    • Profile picture of the author PatriciaJ
      Originally Posted by mmurtha View Post

      Hey James,

      It may have nothing to do with how many articles you submit, or when you submit them, but everything to do with who is approving them.

      Now I'm not saying this is happening so I want people to be perfectly clear about it, but it is possible.

      Just a thought ...

      Mary
      I think that it's unfair to suggest corruption and would it be really worth it? I don't think so.
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      • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
        Originally Posted by PatriciaJ View Post

        I think that it's unfair to suggest corruption and would it be really worth it? I don't think so.
        Patricia,

        No one accussed anyone of corruption. Most certainly not me. Did you read the post before commenting?

        A couple of people have already mentioned that the articles are viewed and approved by humans. HUmans do have preferences whether people like to admit it or not.

        Plus what Steve (Ouroboros) already mentioned here:

        Has anyone considered the fact that EZA is a directory reviewed by humans with apparently a good marketing plan? If I had the juice that they have, I would be approving the authors that have been around for awhile and make me money...

        Just .02

        Steve
        May have a lot to do with it.

        Jeremy,

        Lol no conspiracy theories here. Just prooven facts about humans and their preferences.

        No matter how impartial people would like to think they are, you can almost bank on it that they are patial to some. Whether it be people who support more, people with a well known name, people with the best content, etc ...

        Testing is always great, but as long as there is a human variable involved like the one in this case, you can't come to an absolute conclusion from the results.


        Mary
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        • Profile picture of the author PatriciaJ
          Originally Posted by mmurtha View Post

          Patricia,

          No one accussed anyone of corruption. Most certainly not me. Did you read the post before commenting?

          A couple of people have already mentioned that the articles are viewed and approved by humans. HUmans do have preferences whether people like to admit it or not.

          Plus what Steve (Ouroboros) already mentioned here:



          May have a lot to do with it.

          Jeremy,

          Lol no conspiracy theories here. Just prooven facts about humans and their preferences.

          No matter how impartial people would like to think they are, you can almost bank on it that they are patial to some. Whether it be people who support more, people with a well known name, people with the best content, etc ...

          Testing is always great, but as long as there is a human variable involved like the one in this case, you can't come to an absolute conclusion from the results.


          Mary
          Yes I did read the post, I wouldn't have commented otherwise. As I read it the implication was there though admittedly the actual word corruption was used further down the string and I apologise if I have offended you.

          I remember at the time feeling astonished at the whole string for several reasons and believe that Steven Wagenheims post is the most likely.

          I use 3 different directory scripts and the only way that I could manipulate the latest entries by category or otherwise would be to search through and only approve the ones that I wanted to at the end of the day or delete articles and resubmit them to make sure that they are listed as the latest. Either way would take extra time and wouldn't be worth it.

          On all of my directories the entry points are mostly through articles, either through keyword searches or social bookmarking - not through the main page or categories. I also find in the site stats that some of the articles that regularly get the most views every month have been on my directories for months and the views come through keyword searches. Every month the top articles for views are a mixture of new and older. That shows me that articles don't sink without trace once newer articles are posted as long as the information is being searched for. On EA my article with constantly the most views has been there for several months, that's probably because of a word that I used in the title inadvertantly - that word is sexy!

          My astonishment is also due to implications made in this string and others complaining about EA recently. When I started my first directory last year I was determined that eventually it would be one of the best. It's been time consuming hard work and I've still got a way to go, but if I ever get anywhere near EAs success I wonder how I would feel if all of my hard work gained me the amount of negativity that EA gets in this forum. Considering that many of us make money for our businesses by using the service that EA provides and many more will in the future it's like biting the hand that feeds you.

          I hope that this doesn't offend anybody and if I haven't explained well enough perhaps other directory owners might help out with more of an insight into how they work.
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          • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
            Originally Posted by PatriciaJ View Post

            I think that it's unfair to suggest corruption and would it be really worth it? I don't think so.
            Patricia,

            No one accussed anyone of corruption. Most certainly not me. Did you read the post before commenting?

            A couple of people have already mentioned that the articles are viewed and approved by humans. HUmans do have preferences whether people like to admit it or not.

            Plus what Steve (Ouroboros) already mentioned here:

            Has anyone considered the fact that EZA is a directory reviewed by humans with apparently a good marketing plan? If I had the juice that they have, I would be approving the authors that have been around for awhile and make me money...

            Just .02

            Steve
            May have a lot to do with it.

            Jeremy,

            Lol no conspiracy theories here. Just prooven facts about humans and their preferences.

            No matter how impartial people would like to think they are, you can almost bank on it that they are patial to some. Whether it be people who support more, people with a well known name, people with the best content, etc ...

            Testing is always great, but as long as there is a human variable involved like the one in this case, you can't come to an absolute conclusion from the results.


            Mary


            Originally Posted by PatriciaJ View Post

            Yes I did read the post, I wouldn't have commented otherwise. As I read it the implication was there though admittedly the actual word corruption was used further down the string and I apologise if I have offended you.

            I remember at the time feeling astonished at the whole string for several reasons and believe that Steven Wagenheims post is the most likely.

            I use 3 different directory scripts and the only way that I could manipulate the latest entries by category or otherwise would be to search through and only approve the ones that I wanted to at the end of the day or delete articles and resubmit them to make sure that they are listed as the latest. Either way would take extra time and wouldn't be worth it.

            On all of my directories the entry points are mostly through articles, either through keyword searches or social bookmarking - not through the main page or categories. I also find in the site stats that some of the articles that regularly get the most views every month have been on my directories for months and the views come through keyword searches. Every month the top articles for views are a mixture of new and older. That shows me that articles don't sink without trace once newer articles are posted as long as the information is being searched for. On EA my article with constantly the most views has been there for several months, that's probably because of a word that I used in the title inadvertantly - that word is sexy!

            My astonishment is also due to implications made in this string and others complaining about EA recently. When I started my first directory last year I was determined that eventually it would be one of the best. It's been time consuming hard work and I've still got a way to go, but if I ever get anywhere near EAs success I wonder how I would feel if all of my hard work gained me the amount of negativity that EA gets in this forum. Considering that many of us make money for our businesses by using the service that EA provides and many more will in the future it's like biting the hand that feeds you.

            I hope that this doesn't offend anybody and if I haven't explained well enough perhaps other directory owners might help out with more of an insight into how they work.

            Patricia,

            Nope, not offended in the least, I simply made a statement to clear up a misunderstanding you had when you read my post. There was no implication except for the one that you or possibly someone else manufactured. And it seems that you are the one that got offended because of it.

            It helps when people don't assume this is what is meant by such and such, because 9 out of 10 cases it isn't in the end.

            Now I can't help what you felt when you read this thread, but I do know one thing, I've never ever put EZA or Chris down about anything, nor any other Article Directory. Heck I owned one for 3+ yrs, and just sold it this past year because I changed directions with my business.


            Mary
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    Nope me, just a lowly newbie when it comes to EA.
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  • Profile picture of the author clbnc
    Have you managed to get the THE top spot, I'm not talking NEAR the top, in an extremely competitive category five days in a row? Nine days out of ten kinda consistency?
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  • Profile picture of the author Ouroboros
    Has anyone considered the fact that EZA is a directory reviewed by humans with apparently a good marketing plan? If I had the juice that they have, I would be approving the authors that have been around for awhile and make me money...

    Just .02

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    • Profile picture of the author clbnc
      Originally Posted by Ouroboros View Post

      Has anyone considered the fact that EZA is a directory reviewed by humans with apparently a good marketing plan? If I had the juice that they have, I would be approving the authors that have been around for awhile and make me money...

      Just .02

      Steve
      Bingo! Once again.

      If, I repeat IF there is corruption I will not be too impressed nor surprised. Nor could I ever prove it conclusively. But, this complete domination of certain categories is a bit strange.

      Unfortunately, I still have not seen methods described here that seem to have the hope of dominating like a few people are doing. I can see them overall increasing my profit, but not a complete domination of a category like I am witnessing.

      Maybe I am wrong, but I will test a little more. I'm not holding my breath.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
        It has nothing at all to do with who approves it or how good your article is or anything else....

        Conspiracy theory much????

        It has more to do with paying attention to the way things work.

        Here's the truth...It's not hard. I know of at least well, a ton of people that have had their articles on top of niches over the past week in niches like weight loss, dating, phones, and several others...

        It's all about a system

        And yes, you do make a killing when your article is on top of the list

        Originally Posted by clbnc View Post

        Bingo! Once again.

        If, I repeat IF there is corruption I will not be too impressed nor surprised. Nor could I ever prove it conclusively. But, this complete domination of certain categories is a bit strange.

        Unfortunately, I still have not seen methods described here that seem to have the hope of dominating like a few people are doing. I can see them overall increasing my profit, but not a complete domination of a category like I am witnessing.

        Maybe I am wrong, but I will test a little more. I'm not holding my breath.
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        • Profile picture of the author clbnc
          Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

          It has nothing at all to do with who approves it or how good your article is or anything else....

          Conspiracy theory much????

          It has more to do with paying attention to the way things work.

          Here's the truth...It's not hard. I know of at least well, a ton of people that have had their articles on top of niches over the past week in niches like weight loss, dating, phones, and several others...

          It's all about a system

          And yes, you do make a killing when your article is on top of the list
          The same name 5 days in a row, 9 days out of 10? That is an amazing system!

          What conspiracy theory? It simply a possibility unless proven otherwise. You did notice the all caps "IF" I take it?

          I think I have a good idea of what to test now. My past testing simply concluded that submission times varied greatly. I will test further.

          If I come across as cynical, it is because I have wasted a tremendous amount of time and effort on "supposed" gurus. I am now not too willing to take certain claims as truth until I have more trust of the person.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          I don't even know where to begin.

          I got articles, 2 months after being submitted, getting thousands of views
          a month.

          Hey, how about just writing good articles with good keyword targeting,
          actually help some freaking people out there, and stop worrying about
          if Willie "Article Pro" Writeman has got his articles at the top spot of some
          niche?

          I write my articles first thing in the morning, submit them and then move on
          with my business. Sometimes they get approved at noon, sometimes at 5
          sometimes at 2, whatever. They get approved, the get read, they get
          people to my resource box and to my site or blog and they make me sales.

          I make over $67,000 each year JUST off my articles alone.

          And I seriously doubt I've ever had an article on the "what's new" page
          for more than 5 minutes.

          Who cares?

          Target your keywords properly
          Write a killer subject
          Write a quality article
          Write a killer resource box
          Have a killer squeeze page or review page
          Clean up

          Yeah, it's THAT simple.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            I don't even know where to begin.

            I got articles, 2 months after being submitted, getting thousands of views
            a month.

            Hey, how about just writing good articles with good keyword targeting,
            actually help some freaking people out there, and stop worrying about
            if Willie "Article Pro" Writeman has got his articles at the top spot of some
            niche?

            I write my articles first thing in the morning, submit them and then move on
            with my business. Sometimes they get approved at noon, sometimes at 5
            sometimes at 2, whatever. They get approved, the get read, they get
            people to my resource box and to my site or blog and they make me sales.

            I make over $67,000 each year JUST off my articles alone.

            And I seriously doubt I've ever had an article on the "what's new" page
            for more than 5 minutes.

            Who cares?

            Target your keywords properly
            Write a killer subject
            Write a quality article
            Write a killer resource box
            Have a killer squeeze page or review page
            Clean up

            Yeah, it's THAT simple.

            Holy cow patties Steve..

            Articles: 1,207 Active articles, resulting in 132,451 views

            I dare anyone to tell Steve face to face that article marketing doesn't work... I'd love to be there to see Steve wrap his guitar around your neck and get Jerry to throw you out of the house...

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            • Profile picture of the author Wide Eyed Concepts
              Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

              Holy cow patties Steve..

              Articles: 1,207 Active articles, resulting in 132,451 views

              I dare anyone to tell Steve face to face that article marketing doesn't work... I'd love to be there to see Steve wrap his guitar around your neck and get Jerry to throw you out of the house...

              Mike Hill
              I think what's impressive about those stats is that it honestly isn't a whole lot of views compared to articles he has out. That just means what he publishes gets the job done.

              What normal people take 5 articles to do he can do in 1 or 2.

              There are some categories at EzineArticles where regardless of the keyword research you do you'll get 500-1000 views per article... from what i've seen the categories he posts in doesn't get very many views at all... but it looks like they all add up quite nicely.
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  • Profile picture of the author JJ-Undercover
    Wouldn't the fact that you see the articles all the time in the same placements prove the "methods and secrets" work?

    I saw that you have a problem that is distressing you and wondered what you'd pay for the solution. Not that I can or would provide the solution. By your reply, Gary Halbert would not consider you a starving crowd just yet.

    Unfortunately, I think you'll continue to see this situation for a few more months. It's a shame that a couple people can dominate popular categories while others look on helplessly. It's a frustrating feeling I'm sure. I've noticed it myself.

    If I were to make a prediction, I'd tell you to not hold your breath on anything changing until late March. But you will get some temporary relief in a few weeks. But what do I know.

    Maybe I can alert you to which days someone else is allowed to have the top placements, would that help? I do have psychic abilities on this matter.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marcus Paul
    With human reviewers the tendency is to promote the content that is most appealing. Some writers may have a unique style that appeals to the human reviewers and matches the identity they want to promote. So it gets to the top of the list.

    Also, I would assume they have internal metrics telling them which articles/authors get the most google traffic and/or most Adsense clicks.

    Just try to write something that is top notch and it will rise to the top. I would be more concerned with how much search engine traffic I can get and less about where it actually lists in the directory. That will be the biggest benefit to your business IMO.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    I think it more depends upon who is doing the approving .. I just noticed one that was approved on Nov 11, 2008 (I still got the email) now it says "problem please contact us, not live" ... I just sent them an email..

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  • Profile picture of the author clbnc
    Here is why I care Steve:

    Getting the position that these people are getting brings in a LOT of money. A long term plan would include getting this money as well as the things you have mentioned. If you don't want to figure out how they do it, that is your choice. I, however, do want to so I can get a piece of that pie as well.

    I'm not talking about the "what's new page" I'm talking about being the last article accepted for a category so that you have the coveted top spots whenever a user enters the category in the evening or over the weekend.

    We are talking a lot of money here Steve. I have had one article achieve a great position over the weekend and saw just how much money is being left on the table not targeting these positions.

    Feel free to ignore these, I will go after them.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by clbnc View Post

      Here is why I care Steve:

      Getting the position that these people are getting brings in a LOT of money. A long term plan would include getting this money as well as the things you have mentioned. If you don't want to figure out how they do it, that is your choice. I, however, do want to so I can get a piece of that pie as well.

      I'm not talking about the "what's new page" I'm talking about being the last article accepted for a category so that you have the coveted top spots whenever a user enters the category in the evening or over the weekend.

      We are talking a lot of money here Steve. I have had one article achieve a great position over the weekend and saw just how much money is being left on the table not targeting these positions.

      Feel free to ignore these, I will go after them.
      Chad,
      You know trying to keep all your eggs in one basket may not be the best thing to do .. Does not matter if there is a possibility to a great amount of money or not.. Spending all your time on EZA and trying to figure out that major secret that may not even exist could be more harmful to your income than good..

      I would have to agree fully with Steven's post .. Write, submit, move on.. There are many other websites besides EZA that get just as much traffic if not more..

      I am not impressed at all with the traffic I get from EZA but ofcourse I am not a writer either and never claimed to be.. My articles must be atleast half way good if they get approved by EZA, Buzzle, and a few others that are very strict...

      I am still testing some stuff but honestly I got more traffic from using isnare than I did EZA and it took way longer for my articles to be approved at isnare..

      Just my opinion..

      Also remember articles can be used for way more than just submitting them to article directories.

      James
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      • Profile picture of the author clbnc
        Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

        Chad,
        You know trying to keep all your eggs in one basket may not be the best thing to do ..
        I can assure you that I am not keeping all of my eggs in one basket. I just want to try and make each egg as profitable as possible overall. I am well aware of how much more can be made with getting a good placement in ezine. If I can figure it out and increase my profits by 10% for the long term without too much hassle I will do it.

        Thanks for the advice though.
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  • Profile picture of the author JJ-Undercover
    Chad, you're overthinking this. I can assure you that you won't get to the top spot even with more testing. It simply won't be allowed.
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    • Profile picture of the author clbnc
      Originally Posted by JJ-Undercover View Post

      Chad, you're overthinking this. I can assure you that you won't get to the top spot even with more testing. It simply won't be allowed.
      Are you implying some kind of conspiracy? If so, do you care to back this up?

      Cryptic responses will not stop me from testing and improving my business plan.
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      • Profile picture of the author Wide Eyed Concepts
        are you by chance referring to Rahul Talwar aka Pushpa Pal Singh?

        It's obviously the same person dominating the relationships:Conflict category and whatever he/she is doing is working.. they got nearly half the damn page for the full weekend if they don't accept new articles over the weekend. (i've had some accepted over the weekend)

        I'd love to know what that person is doing besides obviously writing a ton of articles and submitting them, there is obviously some strategic planning going into their methods.
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        • Profile picture of the author clbnc
          Originally Posted by YoYoPro View Post

          are you by chance referring to Rahul Talwar aka Pushpa Pal Singh?

          It's obviously the same person dominating the relationships:Conflict category and whatever he/she is doing is working.. they got nearly half the damn page for the full weekend if they don't accept new articles over the weekend. (i've had some accepted over the weekend)

          I'd love to know what that person is doing besides obviously writing a ton of articles and submitting them, there is obviously some strategic planning going into their methods.
          Funny you should mention that name. This is not the only one on my radar. 13 articles in the top spot seems awfully amazing. Especially since the only method that I have seen mentioned in this thread is a staggered approach. How does one person get 13 staggered articles published last at the end of the day?

          This is what I'm referring to, at least in part, when I say "We Are Getting Our [censored] Handed To Us"

          I want to figure this out as well and level the playing field a little. There is a huge amount of money being left on the table.
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          • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
            You should figure it all out in this thread and make any method that works known so that everyone and their brother can do it

            If this is something that you want to do to build your business, why the hell would you alert a couple hundred thousand members to the same thing before even you understand what is going on? lol

            Originally Posted by clbnc View Post

            Funny you should mention that name. This is not the only one on my radar. 13 articles in the top spot seems awfully amazing. Especially since the only method that I have seen mentioned in this thread is a staggered approach. How does one person get 13 staggered articles published last at the end of the day?

            This is what I'm referring to, at least in part, when I say "We Are Getting Our [censored] Handed To Us"

            I want to figure this out as well and level the playing field a little. There is a huge amount of money being left on the table.
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            • Profile picture of the author clbnc
              Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

              You should figure it all out in this thread and make any method that works known so that everyone and their brother can do it

              If this is something that you want to do to build your business, why the hell would you alert a couple hundred thousand members to the same thing before even you understand what is going on? lol
              You still have not answered my question Jeremy. Have you been able to get multiple articles to the top several positions in an extremely competitive category 5 days in a row, 9 days out of 10? And, can you back it up?

              For the second paragraph, have you ever read "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu? All may not always be as it seems. LOL
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            Originally Posted by clbnc View Post

            Funny you should mention that name. This is not the only one on my radar. 13 articles in the top spot seems awfully amazing. Especially since the only method that I have seen mentioned in this thread is a staggered approach. How does one person get 13 staggered articles published last at the end of the day?
            Submitted AND published at the end of the same day. Maybe an EA employee is double dipping....
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            • Profile picture of the author clbnc
              Originally Posted by blackhatcat View Post

              Submitted AND published at the end of the same day. Maybe an EA employee is double dipping....
              Not to mention, this is an extremely competitive category.
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  • Profile picture of the author JJ-Undercover
    This is definitely an interesting topic.

    Chad, I wish you good luck, but why would you expect someone in that dominant of a position to freely tell you how they are doing it if there are any secrets to it? That would make no sense whatsoever. They would lose money.

    Why do you think people hide behind pen names? 95% of article marketers either suck or are non-expert parasites who add no true value. They just look for easy ways to get ahead. The tricks. They mooch off others work.

    What if I told you that even if you knew the tricks, you still wouldn't get top placements? I think you're setting yourself up for a lot of frustrations. Your ambitions are blinding you. You can get the premium service and you can learn the "secrets", and you still won't get up top.

    This posting has run it's course. Come back 2 weeks from now and let us know how your testing went.
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  • Profile picture of the author trippmarxx
    I've got lucky and had articles approved and hang on the top spots all weekend.

    Then, I've had articles get approved way early in the morning, never getting that initial traffic spike.

    And, I've had articles just get approved and get views.

    My point is, go for the long term. Do your keyword research and make sure your articles will rank well in the SE's. More long term traffic will shoot up your article views, possibly putting that article in the "Top 10 Most Viewed Articles in This Category", which will bring in even more traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
    Well I don't mean to shoot down your theory but I have only been submitting articles for about three weeks to ezine and as we speak I own two of the top slots in two different catagories for very competitive niches for the rest of the weekend. I do not know anyone at ezine nor am I am a paid memeber either. That person who has had that slot for the last 5 days very well have written 30 articles over the last few days and submitted one every 10 minutes. There's a pretty good chance with that many articles that they will get that slot just due to the law of averages.
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    • Profile picture of the author clbnc
      Originally Posted by bzimm View Post

      Well I don't mean to shoot down your theory but I have only been submitting articles for about three weeks to ezine and as we speak I own two of the top slots in two different catagories for very competitive niches for the rest of the weekend. I do not know anyone at ezine nor am I am a paid memeber either. That person who has had that slot for the last 5 days very well have written 30 articles over the last few days and submitted one every 10 minutes. There's a pretty good chance with that many articles that they will get that slot just due to the law of averages.
      Thanks for the response, but this is not really what I am referring to. There are certain authors who can consistently get a large batch of articles in the best positions seemingly whenever they want. It is absolutely consistent.

      I too get a few articles in good spots. But the large batches of articles eludes me. And the mind boggling consistency eludes me as well.

      To the others asking why I "expect" people to give up their secret, would you please point out where I say I expect it. I have "asked", but I certainly do not expect it.

      It is now time to heed Steven's advice. Time to add some more pages to my own sites.

      If anyone else has any thoughts on just how they achieve that mind boggling consistency, please chime in.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Dean
    It depends on the category you're submitting to.

    In one of my niches, I submit my articles on Thursday at 11pm GMT and they go live last thing on the Friday and stay up all weekend. Not as much competition as the Conflict category though.

    You have to do your own testing.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        Originally Posted by nico52 View Post

        HaHa,

        I woke up this morning ready to blast into Steve (the wonder boy). He had a post here about somethint (????????????) I also had a post here about a month ago about the same thing.

        The thing here is that he has 10,000 posts so there fore he is holier than thou. I don't have the exact text of the short conversation. All I know is that he decided to complain about the same exact thing that I did.

        The only thing was that he blasted me to no end. I was ignorant about it but he was so GO* informed. To bad it got deleted because I was in the process of having a hay day with it.

        I will leave it at that,
        Adam

        Adam, I don't know what the heck you're talking about or what your
        frickin problem is, so I won't even try to figure out what you're ranting
        about.

        For the person who mentioned my articles not getting many views per
        article, that is very true for my MAIN author name. But my pen names
        are a whole different story. I have many articles with over 5,000 views
        per article. And guess what? They don't NEARLY do the job of my main
        niche articles simply because I have established myself as an authority
        in my main niche. So an article with just 20 views still gets me 10 click
        thrus, almost all of which turn into subscribers.

        It's not about massive numbers. It's about quality and consistency. I'm
        down to just writing 3 articles a day now for EZA. I do the rest of my
        writing for my blog and blogs I guest author at. The articles I have at EZA
        are more than enough to do the job for me. Heck, one niche I haven't
        written an article for in about a year and still get over 300 views a day.

        Quality...that's what it comes down to.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    Hey guys here's a question for all you article marketers out there...

    After hearing about traffic directed with articles what do you think of these stats:

    Articles: 9,042 Active articles, resulting in 419,006 views


    I'm doing some due diligence research and wanted to know what you guys think of the amount of articles compared to the amount of views.

    To me, the views should be a lot higher which tells me the articles weren't targeted correctly using more than one keyword. If you do the math, each article has gotten 46 views on average, which stinks!

    Quantity doesn't always equate to domination of that directory at Ezine Articles, however I got to hand it to this author. They have 35 articles all at the top of their particular category.

    At first I thought I was looking at the authors extended page of all their articles but then saw other authors eventually...
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    • Profile picture of the author Deric Yin
      Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

      Hey guys here's a question for all you article marketers out there...

      After hearing about traffic directed with articles what do you think of these stats:

      Articles: 9,042 Active articles, resulting in 419,006 views

      Here's my latest stats -

      Articles: 265
      Views: 262,387
      Clicks: 41,178

      Roughly translates to 990 views per article, and 155 clicks per article.

      Ultimately, of course, conversion is what matters, but the traffic makes it easy for me to test the hell out of everything.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by TheEnforcer View Post

      Once again, if more people had their marketing efforts spread out and did not put all their eggs in one basket (a basket named "EZA"), there wouldn't be so many people on this site constantly getting into a tizzy over every injustice at EZA.

      I learned early on that EZA is in many ways a LOT more trouble than it is worth, and I have since moved into other arenas which have proven to be much more profitable for my time.
      I would agree 100% there.... I submit to EZA when I am bored..lol

      James
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  • Profile picture of the author Fabian Tan
    If you are a Premium member, your articles can get approved in less than a day or in hours, and you can time the entry of your articles down to the hours by Scheduling when it will go out.

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