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WP-O-Matic scans for the keyword and replaces it with the links as it creates the posts. Other plugins can do this as well if you want to go back to old posts and create links. | |
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[quote=Carl Pruitt;306038]No, Gocodes just helps you create redirects to, among other things, make the affiliate links less obvious within the posts.
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Keith, the problem is, people want things handed to them on a silver platter. They don't want to do the work. They want the push button solution. It's just the nature of this business, so don't let it get to you. | |
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So thank you Steve; And now for a big Thank You to Keith. My first site is finished except for tweaking my RSS feeds and then ultimately submitting it to the ping and RSS directories. I can't believe how easy this was in the end to setup and how slick this works. I am very excited to see how this site performs over time. Now to move on to site number two. | |
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my advice to everyone looking for submission is the same keith gave me: google for it. when i googled it when keith told me to do it, i didnt get great results, but i googled last night and in the meantime some great blogposts have been made about rss-submission.
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Nothing to see here. Move along, citizen.
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plus, i am developing my own business model on this one.
aff-marketing meets autoblogging meets site-flipping. i just have to bring some cash up to buy some of the key-plugins that will bring the "real" automation - for example the autosocial poster pro plugin, as well as the plugin that automatically sells and publishes 125x125 ads. then you can just compile everything in a folder, upload it, add the rss feeds, submit the page to rss and blog directories and sell them. i think im going to do an info product on that one... Keith you should hurry up finishing your autoblogging product, so i can use the freebie to assemble a list that i can sell your product to :P |
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Nothing to see here. Move along, citizen.
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Hi Keith, I know that you use Godaddy, however are all 60 of your so sites on one IP? Are you spreading these out in anyway?
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After you grabbed the RSS Feed, do you guys change their links to point to your affiliate products. For example, an RSS Feed has a link pointing to a book that's on sale at Amazon. Do you guys alter the link to add your affiliate code?
I know I should read every RSS Feed's TOS. But have you tried to read them? It's like written in a foreign language. ![]() I'm not looking to break any laws. Just curious what you guys take on this. Sorry if this question is too obvious. This RSS Feed stuff is still very new to me. ~Chris |
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Keith,
Thanks for that great tips. I will finish my school exams and i will try that! I just imagine that thing with ~100 blogs! Well, i will start when i have some times, it seems so easy to cover a lot of niches. And it can give me more strengh to join a CPA Network : all good! I have some questions before starting ![]() -When we submit our RSS feed to some websites, they are ok if our content is only about others feeds? Or i must check if they allow that? -When you speak about "every place possible". We really need to dig the whole web to find a lot of places? or maybe 40-50 places will be enough? I am lost when i havent numbers ![]() -The ping list only help to rank faster? I have found a lot of list on the web but everytime, i see some ping url that ping to others sites in the list and so, everytime we will ping the same site even if we dont see the same url in the list (things like pingomatic that pings others websites) So if we can see only small differences beetween small and big pinglist i will go for a small. Well, so, if you can just give some numbers about your pinglist and to how many sites you submit, it will be great. |
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BIG WET SMOOCH, Kieth,
I just had to take my blog off a server and was trying to figure out what the heck to do with it as I don't have time for it - but it's really a shame to have a great domain just sitting. This is perfect for it. Merci Beaucoup mon ami. Oh - and by the way. I think you gave out MUCH more info than you had to and think you deserve a big gold star (along with the big wet smooch) for revealing ebook quality info for free here. Class act by all definitions. |
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The posts here and in Keith's original outline concerned RSS feeds that were basically news items.
That seems to be a bit of a waste of an opportunity. If the RSS feed consisted of details about relevant products for sale there is a chance of a sale. Many websites have been built using data feeds but these can be a bit cumbersome to set up. A good choice for an automated system is a WP plugin that takes feeds automatically and allows some administrative guidance through a panel as to product, mix of merchants, and number of posts. A WP plug that can do this is Affiliate Datafeed Profit System at: The Affiliate Datafeed Profit System Version 2 From the website: Quote:
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Hi everybody,
I've set up two test blogs and most essential things seem to work ok. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Here are some tips for those who are willing to pay some money for automatization: I purchased folowing plugins( not affiliate links below, just free info): 1. WP Traffic ($147) three plugins: *one for rss( wp-rssaggregator), tested one for automated article posting, not tested yet one for automated social bookmarking (similar to auto social poster but with much less options, I wouldn't recommend this plugin since there's only option for 1 account per bookmarking site). 2. MaxBlogPress Ninja Affiliate plugin : MaxBlogPress Ninja Affiliate :: WordPress Affiliate Link Tracking Plugin ($97). Worth every cent, fantastic plugin, easy to use and has many options. You can even limit number of redirected links per post. The combination : wp-rssagregator + ninja affiliate achieves same goal as the combination wpomatic+gocodes and I had no issues at all. No messing with .htaccess code(gocode) and no messing with urls in the database(wpomatic and search based feeds). You pull the rss feeds with wp-rss aggregator and you use ninja affiliate to rewrite keywords and to redirect links. It costs some money but it works like a charm. Wpomatic can be used along with wp-rssaggregator for non-search based(direct) feeds. I recommend it since it has better shedulling options than wp-rssaggregator ( wp-rssaggregator cannot be shedulled per campaign, it's same cron shedule for all campaigns). Those two plugins work fine together and compliment each other. And here's one more tip for better rankings in search engines: Wordpress produces .php files by default, but you can make them to appear as .html files. Use custom configuration for permalinks (settings/permalinks) and make it something like this: /%category%/%postname%.html You can have any configuration you like, just make it end with /%postname%.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- Now, I have some other questions that either Keith or someone else may answer: 1. What do you think about the 'static frontpage' model? (the homepage is a static page, and the posts are posted into 'blog' section). I thought that it may be a good model since you can write a longer home page to promote a product or affiliate program. 2. Auto Social Poster plugin: I tested that plugin and it reports more than a half of submissions as 'failed' . For example: 'login error' or ' couldn't connect to the site' or 'error while posting'. I double checked all my logins to social bookmarking sites manually and they are ok, but ASP reports failed submissions. Any experiences, suggesstions for improvement? 3. Where to buy a best plugin that can manage selling banner ads directly? 4. Do you have any experiences with 'uniquefier' plugin? It's supposed to make the content unique in the eyes of search engines but I read both good and bad comments about it... 5. Do you know of any good software for automatic/semiautomatic RSS feed submission? 6. Could you please suggest some free/paid wp themes that would be good for this kind of automated blogs? Almin |
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1. For RSS submissions, have a look at RSS Submit, available from:
ksoft- RSS Submit - Software to Easily Submit Your RSS Feeds That's not an affiliate link. For a WP Theme, Flexibility theme presents well and has many options for display that are easy to select. It's free and can be downloaded here: Flexibility Theme for WordPress Ivan |
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I just got a good website with 45 Working Sites to Quickly Submit Your RSS Feeds.
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Thanks Vicone, I'l check it.
I just found one great post that can be of use for all of us: Turn Google Reader into a semi-automated blogging machine! - Part 1 And here is another tip. I learned this myself yesterday, but I want to share it with you in this great thread. The easiest way to place ads or whatever you want on your blog is by using widgets. Widgets can only be placed in 'dynamic sidebars' (widgetized areas). Now, don' let the word 'sidebars' confuse you, it's just a term that addresses the area where you can place widgets. It doesn't have to be a sidebar, you can also use the area above or below the main content area, along with the areas in the sidebars. The problem is that not all themes are widgetized, and even if the theme is widgetized ( has dynamic sidebars) you may want to add more areas where you can place your widgets. Here is how to create dynamic sidebars where you want them to be. Open the file functions.php which is located in the themes folder. You will find some code similar to the code below: Code:
<?php if ( function_exists(’register_sidebars’) ) register_sidebar(); ?> Code:
<?php if ( function_exists(’register_sidebars’) ) register_sidebar(’2′); register_sidebar(’3′); register_sidebar(’4′); ?> You can add the numbers as you go. You start with 2 if the sidebar 1 is already defined, with 3 if the sidebar 2 is defined, etc. You just add ' register_sidebar('X'); where X is the number of the sidebar you want to add. After registering new sidebars you need to define areas in your theme where you want to place widgets. Just open the file ( e.g. footer.php, header.php or sidebar.php) and place the following code where you want the widgets to appear: Code:
<?php if ( function_exists(’dynamic_sidebar’) && dynamic_sidebar(X) ) : else : ?> <?php endif; ?> Depending on the theme you use, you will maybe need to add some css styling. Just look at the existing boxes in the file and make it same. It may look like this: Code:
<?php if ( function_exists('dynamic_sidebar') && dynamic_sidebar(1) ) : else : ?>
<li id="categories">
<h2>Categories</h2>
<ul>
<?php wp_list_categories('sort_column=name&title_li='); ?>
</ul>
</li>
<li id="archives">
<h2>Archives</h2>
<ul>
<?php wp_get_archives('type=monthly'); ?>
</ul>
</li>
<li id="links">
<h2>Links</h2>
<ul>
<?php wp_list_bookmarks('title_li=&categorize=0'); ?>
</ul>
</li>
<?php endif; ?>
The code above means following: If you don't place any widgets in that sidebar then categories, archives and links will be displayed using the themes style sheet. If you place widgets in that sidebar, then only those widgets will be displayed, also using the themes style sheet. Now , in your admin area, when you go to Design/widgets, there is a drop-down menu below the title Current Widgets. You will see your new sidebars in the drop-down menu and you can now place widgets in those new areas. In this way you can use e.g. text widgets to place the adsense boxes or banners wherever you created new dynamic sidebars. You just put the adsense code or banners code in the text widget and then place that text widget where you want. Almin |
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It is a great post, thanks Keith. I wish I could find a video showing step by steps on the wp-o-matic setup and workings, I have had problems similar to the one described above, getting it all to work out right.
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I was looking for specific tools to add more control to my new article directory wordpress sites. Things like duplicate content filtering, word count, etc... I plan on reviewing all of these, dropping out the ones that are a waste of time, and adding my comments to a support forum for customers who buy these sites created by me. Anyhow, there was a plugin that allows you to put widgets in posts and pages, I will have to get back to you later, after I find it and test it out. But it is out there. I accidently stumbled upon an awesome way to find the newest wordpress plugins, a different place than the list at their repository. ![]() Laurie PS to the guy above about not giving all the info, I am just saying I know there is one, I won't recommend or link to it until I have a chance to check it out in more depth. | |
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I tried setting it up with goarticles feeds but it doesn't link back. I know in the Options section I can 'Post title links to source' but I don't want to do that, do I? Any help is appreciated! Thanks for the great post, btw. EDIT TO ADD: I found the answer, duh. from the FAQ of the plugin site: "How do I link to the original site/article? Use the post template feature (example: {content} <p><a href={permalink}>Link to the original site</a></p>) " | |
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This site has good tool that is free for submitting to social bookmark sites
Social bookmarking service. Fast tagging and posting to all major social websites - SocialMarker.com |
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good business model, but why give your idea to us mere mortals
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People who cry about others publishing their feeds need to realize that RSS feeds are for syndicating your content.
If you don't want to syndicate it, don't publicly publish the feeds. There are plug-ins that allow you to require anyone accessing your feed to be registered to your blog and signed in. At that point, dictate your TOS. But don't publicy publish a feed then get upset when it's actually used for what it was developed for - syndicating your articles/posts to other sites. Whether or not that is what you wish to use it for, that is what it is. It would make just as much sense as releasing a press release - then crying when it get's published. Or complaining that your article on EA is being published on other sites.. Me - I have no problems with my feeds being grabbed by others. I drop links to my sites throughout my feeds, and hope they spread everywhere! THIS IS WHAT MAKES RSS SO GREAT FOR SEO! rant over
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Sorry about the delay, I was up so late, I decided to take a nap this afternoon.
Anyhow been scouring over my 200+ some file, and did a little research. I knew I had read a description for it. Found where I read it but it had led to a 404 page. Still looking to see if I can find a link to download it somewhere else. DCoda Downloads That is where I found the description for it. Laurie PS Sorry to leave you hanging. |
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I always link back to the original source from within the item with the original title anchor text. I always provide a contact link so that if people want their content removed they can contact me and I will always make sure I honour that if they do (only had that on one occasion so far). I never change the content of the original item (that's one of the differences between the way I do it and the way Keith does), not even to add a link for one of the words. As many will know, I do not create completely automated blogs, but like to pick and choose content I add and provide my own commentary where appropriate. Like Keith, if people want their content removed then I will do so, but the benefits they are getting in the form of backlinks and traffic to their site I think probably outweighs any misgivings they may have about a piece of their content (and unless they provide a full feed, it's only a snippet) being used on another site. Tim | |
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Geez, I go away for a few days and there's like 2 more pages of comments! Thanks to the folks who have jumped in with answers to their fellow warriors' questions. Nice to see the thread continue in the spirit it was intended.
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The issue you mention is a factor when you have a site, Site A, and all the sites that link to Site A are on the same shared server. That looks suspicious, and is a sign of links pamming, aka "Google Bombing". However, that really has no bearing on my method, as the sites that link back to my blogs are all over the place: RSS directories, other blogs, aggregator sites, etc. Make sense? Quote:
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1. It shouldn't matter, but always check submission guidelines any time you submit your site, and be sure to follow the site's directions as well. 2. I tend to think "the more the merrier" so far as compiling a list of possible resources. I think the Pareto Principle stands (aka the 80/20 rule) so you're going to be getting the most results from just a handful of sites. However, you'll never know which the best performing handful of sites is unless you test them often, and test new ones you come across as well. Also note a lot of submission places are niched too, so performance will vary depending on your topic. 3. Re: Pinglist, search for "compressed all inclusive pinglist" and you'll get a nice short, but complete ping list for your blogs. IMPORTANT: Remember to turn off all pinging and indexing on your blog while setting this stuff up. Once everything's running smoothly, THEN go bublic. Quote:
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Thanks for your time Keith.
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1. I know that we're primarily concerned with automated solutions. However, from time to time you might want to make an individual post to a blog and a very cool tool that can do this offline to many different blogs is -
BlogDesk It will also insert images - and it's free. 2. This second tool is more of a heads up as it's still in beta and hasn't been released yet. It will allow you to extract data from any web page into a text file - including tables - and then be able to edit it for a future post. These posts can then be scheduled for release to your blog. There's a bit of manual work in assembling this - you have to do the editing - but the content of your blog will be high quality. Check out the short video here: http://webdataparser.com/ Ivan |
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Then, in WP-O-Matic's templates, I use the PHP call and pull in different random selections of text. Because I'm using ExecPHP, I can put this call inside the posts itself instead of just in the template as it was designed. I plan this carefully of course, so that the copy still makes sense, but is composed of randomly selected variations of the same sentences. There are a couple of problems with using this method directly in one of these blogs. First, you will have a lot of pages of content that are not meant to be viewed as such. You want to use something like "Page Link Manager" plugin to hide all these content child pages from your admin. At least, that's what I'm experimenting with now - I haven't fully tested it, but I'm hoping that even though it "hides" pages from appearing to the user, it will still allow the PHP call to retrieve the content from the database. Another flaw of this method is that it does the random selection of page content at the time the page renders, so every time you refresh, your posts change. One possible solution I thought of (which actually solves both problems) is to create a special WordPress installation that will construct your feed for you. This install will be kept completely private and exists only to build the feeds that I will use on my "money" blogs. This is a good idea for a couple of reasons, primarily that I control the source of the feed. If I choose to flip the site, the new owner can re-construct their own RSS content, or they can pay me a small subscription fee to continue using the one I set up. ![]() Hope that makes sense. The more detailed version will be included in the report, but that's pretty much the whole thing - just not step-by-step, and not fully tested.Quote:
Using a variation of the method I briefly described above, you could keep links out of the feed, but use your own snippets to insert links into. Using a "feeder" installation for constructing your content is really a big step in the evolution of this method for me. It's opening up a lot of possibilities, but I'm trying to hold off messing with it too much just so I can finish the report on the *current* method since people keep asking. But just to give a few ideas out there - use the above method (feeder site) by loading it with a ton of PLR. Do the variation rewrites the way I said, and set everything up so it spits out unique, randomized (but human readable) variations of your PLR articles. Charge for access to your infinite PLR article machine. Lots of cool ideas there, see? ![]() Anyway, back to work! I need to quit checking this thread until I finish the report though, lol. | ||
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Looking forward to your autoblogging product. Hope it will fill in sum of the gaps.
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But so far every feed I run into has a non-commercial restriction. For example, here's a snippet of Google's TOS: "Use of the Service. You may only display the content of the Service for your own personal use (i.e., non-commercial use) and may not otherwise copy, reproduce, alter, modify, create derivative works, or publicly display any content. For example, you may not use the Service to sell a product or service; use the Service to increase traffic to your Web site for commercial reasons, such as advertising sales; take the results from the Service and reformat and display them, or use any robot, spider, other device or manual process to monitor or copy any content from the Service. If you are uncertain whether your intended use of the Service is permissible, please contact us. In addition, Google shall have the right in its sole discretion to suspend or terminate the Service or your access to it." And here's another TOS from a local newspaper site: "You may use the Content online only, and solely for your personal, non-commercial use and you may download or print a single copy of any portion of the Content solely for your personal, non-commercial use, provided you do not remove any trademark, copyright or other notice from such Content..." If I understand correctly, I can't use Google's news feed or any feed with non-commercial restrictions. What else is left for us to use then? I really like your idea, but I have been having a difficult time gathering legit RSS feeds that I could use. Thanks. ~Chris | ||
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this is good info!!!
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But consider that they don't actually own the rights to the content they're displaying (talking about Google News here, which has no original content). Therefore rather than get into the murky waters of what EXACTLY you can do with it, they just say you can't do anything with it at all except look at it. That way, for whatever reason, they are covered. Just as I am when I say "hey, make sure you get proper permission to use feeds in this way" - what you use and how you use it is ultimately your own responsibility. Ideally, you want written permission. Without that, strive to make your blog fulfill the requirements for "fair use" according to the copyright rules. That involves having rss content from a diverse number of sources, having that mixed in with occasional original/unique content, making sure the obvious primary use of the site as informational rather than commercial (ie, don't charge for access to the content), using snippets of content rather than entire articles, and finally - always give credit and link back to the source. To back that up even more, make SURE you can be contacted from your blog, and you should even provide special instructions for contact re: content removal request. But I ain't a lawyer, so... If good enough isn't good enough for you, then I suggest you pass on my method in the OP, and maybe try some of the original content methods I recently outlined. The automated blog is a very powerful marketing tool, and if you can't stomach working with the feeds while it remains a gray area, you should investigate other ways to pull it off using original content. Or at least cheap PLR. Anyway, hope that helps, and I hope you understand the need for me to answer in this way. I'm just some dude you met on the internet.
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The one thing that really got my wheels turning from this whole concept was that of selling text links on the blogs once they reach PR4. Keith you suggested that that by mere virtue of having a PR4 blog you can sell text links for $50 per month, ten of them on the same blog.
This was such a compelling suggestion that I started researching it. After all, if this is true then there are a lot of other business models that make sense for simply aquiring pr4+ websites and/or blogs and instantly having a $500 per month income vehicle. My research is not confirming this assertion of yours unfortunately. I am not finding an eager market for text links on high PR sites that have no original content and not much real traffic anywhere near those prices, and I have been investigating all the places you go to sell links. So if you are going to do a WSO, I would ask that you fully break down the exact procedure for selling links. Where to go, how to sell them, what kind of copy to write in the ads, the exact procedure. Thanks |
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As I mentioned here and a couple of other places, the text links I sell are brokered through a friend who has a list of folks who are interested in buying those things, and $50 a month for a link in the blogroll is what he charges, and I get half that. I guess that's not the process people would go through for selling text links, and I don't have much experience going about it a different way. I've been very lucky with that opportunity, but it's not something I can repeat for others, and the only reason my income with it is that high is because I have a captive audience for whom I am the sole supplier. In fact there's no rule that says you can't specifically seek out partners who can help you sell these. They're out there. Any SEO guy who recommends that buying links can probably help you out. Even discounting my specific circumstance, there's still huge opportunity for ad revenue. I have to think that using something like this: Sell text link ads. Direct. No commissions. Instant payment - WP Text Ads would be worth it once you have a nicely developed blog. Set that (or something else like it) up, and then approach sites in your niche and sell some ads. Text, banner, whatever you want to do. Ask for as much as you think you can get. You should be able to get more directly than what you can get from any of the brokerage sites. Plus, consider that once you have your distribution set up, you can include solo advertorial posts as part of an advertising package as well. When you're selling ads, you are going after two different types of buyer, generally speaking. You have the SEO savvy guy, who doesn't care about the traffic as long as you have a high PR, a recent cache date, an aged domain, etc. etc. Those are the kinds of people buying links from me now, and they are pre-sold on it because they are SEO students of my friend, and that's what he tells them is worth buying. I'm no SEO guy, so I take his word for it. The money goes in my PayPal account, so I believe him. Then the other ad buyer is the non-SEO savvy guy who goes about buying ads like any other business man. That is, with little care for results. For him, traffic might be important, but most likely you're going to be more successful if you appeal to vanity or positioning between rivals in a niche. You're going to need a more direct relationship for this, and it's less automated. However, it DOES keep your focus on money-making and selling rather than having to get bogged down in content creation. But as with anything, your mileage may vary. However, if you wanted to focus on text links as a single focus business model with this method, I'd suggest you keep in mind the above. Look for niches with either SEO savvy/deep pocket merchants, or non-techie/high competition merchants. That will give you the best chance of demanding high ad prices and making sales and getting recurring payments from them. Or, you can still go with the brokers or reseller networks and just go lowbrow, you'll just have to make more blogs to make up for the lower payouts per ad. Anyway, sorry for the rambling. I wish I had more solid recommendations for you on that aspect, but hopefully my noodling gives you an idea or two. | |
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As usual Keith, your rambling and noodlings are usually a pretty much common sense approach to these things, so keep them coming.
Re. the post about using original content if you are not happy about using feeds, that is my take on it as well. Although you can of course quite legally re-use articles from article directories in your content with the proper attribution. I look at adding those into my Google Reader model in part 2, which is not far off being finished now.... I hope.... Tim |
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Keith: Great work and thanks for giving this away. I am already waist deep in a few blogs with this model and am excited for where it will go.
My question: Is there anyway to prevent WP-o-matic from parsing and rewriting html links as they come in from the feeds? Seems like an nicely constructed "if" statement would work right here: // Rewrite $rewrites = $this->getCampaignData($campaign->id, 'rewrites'); foreach($rewrites as $rewrite) { $origin = $rewrite['origin']['search']; if(isset($rewrite['rewrite'])) { $reword = isset($rewrite['relink']) ? '<a href="'. $rewrite['relink'] .'">' . $rewrite['rewrite'] . '</a>' : $rewrite['rewrite']; if($rewrite['origin']['regex']) { $content = preg_replace($origin, $reword, $content); } else $content = str_ireplace($origin, $reword, $content); } else if(isset($rewrite['relink'])) $content = str_ireplace($origin, '<a href="'. $rewrite['relink'] .'">' . $origin . '</a>', $content); } return $content; } In my case there is usually a keyword in there and it pulls the link out of the code and puts in into plain text in the post making a mess. TIA |
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Can you recommend a good plugin/widget that enables and lists category specific feeds? It would be good to have it on a private blog in order to build themed feeds for 'money' blogs. Almin |
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Since you are planning a WSO, the feedback you get from this thread also benefits you as well. I'm just providing feedback about your method and raising legitimate concerns. I believe you should look seriously into the legal aspect of your method and address it with clear answers. Especially if you plan to charge people with your WSO. By recommending people to build a business model on a "grey area" is like telling people to build a house on sand. It will eventually fall if the foundation is not properly laid out. Best of luck to you in your future endeavors. ~Chris | |
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Those interested in selling text links should be aware that Google has been becoming more and more against this, and penalizing sites who sell links, so you'll want to do it in a way that's "under the radar". Advertising right on your site that you sell text links, for example, would be a dead giveaway!
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I was just laying out what I know, and for other readers, if they don't want to get involved in the grey area of "fair use" or they don't want to ask permission, or get legal advice, etc. - I was just pointing out not to discount the method altogether, as with original content, it's just as powerful and automated. Other people's RSS is just one source of content. As I've recently discussed here, you can create your OWN RSS feeds and use those with the method. Lots of possibility. The sources of the content, and the methods of monetization (to me) are secondary. The real power comes in the automated, self updating, self promoting nature of the system. I just don't want people to discount that and shortchange themselves because they find non-vital parts of the system to be "iffy". Whether it's not finding feeds or not finding a market for text links or whatever. There's more here than just these specific moving pieces. Remember, I developed this system over time after FAILING with making automated Adsense blogs. If a piece of this isn't going to work for your particular goal, it's easily modified, and there's lots more you can try. In fact, as my recent posts indicate, I've evolved the method somewhat, and have recently bought a bunch of PLR. I intend to set up a whole mess of blogs using my above method of creating randomized niche feeds from the original content, and using THOSE to power my other blogs. I'm not doing this because using other feeds bugs me, but rather I'm doing it to solve the problem of having too little niche chatter to otherwise power a potentially profitable niche blog. But I digress. ![]() In closing, I fully appreciate the feedback, and the lengthy response from me was meant to respectfully to respond to your important question. Please accept my comments in the spirit they were intended and don't take any undue offense! | |||
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To be clear, Google doesn't care if you sell links. They care when you are doing so to "sell" PR value. In their eyes, you should nofollow commercial links. Of course, that will drastically decrease the amount you can charge for them. At least for the SEO savvy. For the other kind of advertisers (Vain and Competitive) it doesn't really matter because they don't know what nofollow is anyway. In fact, that plugin I linked to before automatically makes all your commercial links nofollow so you can be "cool" with Google. | |
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